Is the debt bubble supporting the world economy in danger of collapsing?

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The years between 1981 and 2020 were very special years for the world economy because interest rates were generally falling:

Figure 1. Yields on 10-year and 3-month US Treasuries, in a chart made by the Federal Reserve of St. Louis, as of May 10, 2022.

In some sense, falling interest rates meant that debt was becoming increasingly affordable. The monthly out-of-pocket expense for a new $500,000 mortgage was falling lower and lower. Automobile payments for a new $30,000 vehicle could more easily be accommodated into a person’s budget. A business would find it more affordable to add $5,000,000 in new debt to open at an additional location. With these beneficial effects, it would be no surprise if a debt bubble were to form.

With an ever-lower cost of debt, the economy has had a hidden tailwind pushing it long between 1981 to 2020. Now that interest rates are again rising, the danger is that a substantial portion of this debt bubble may collapse. My concern is that the economy may be heading for an incredibly hard landing because of the inter-relationship between interest rates and energy prices (Figure 2), and the important role energy plays in powering the economy.

Figure 2. Chart showing the important role Quantitative Easing (QE) to lower interest rates plays in adjusting the level of “demand” (and thus the selling price) for oil. Lower interest rates make goods and services created with higher-priced oil more affordable. In addition to the items noted on the chart, US QE3 was discontinued in 2014, about the time of the 2014 oil price crash. Also, the debt bubble crash of 2008 seems to be the indirect result of the US raising short term interest rates (Figure 1) in the 2004 to 2007 period.

In this post, I will try to explain my concerns.

[1] Ever since civilization began, a combination of (a) energy consumption and (b) debt has been required to power the economy.

Under the laws of physics, energy is required to power the economy. This happens because it takes the “dissipation” of energy to perform any activity that contributes to GDP. The energy dissipated can be the food energy that a person eats, or it can be wood or coal or another material burned to provide energy. Sometimes the energy dissipated is in the form of electricity. Looking back, we can see the close relationship between total energy consumption and world total GDP.

Figure 3. World energy consumption for the period 1990 to 2020, based on energy data from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy and world Purchasing Power Parity GDP in 2017 International Dollars, as published by the World Bank.

The need for debt or some other approach that acts as a funding mechanism for capital expenditures (sale of shares of stock, for example), comes from the fact that humans make investments that will not produce a return for many years. For example, ever since civilization began, people have been planting crops. In some cases, there is a delay of a few months before a crop is produced; in other cases, such as with fruit or nut trees, there can be a delay of years before the investment pays back. Even the purchase by an individual of a home or a vehicle is, in a sense, an investment that will offer a return over a period of years.

With all parts of the economy benefiting from the lower interest rates (except, perhaps, banks and others lending the funds, who are making less profit from the lower interest rates), it is easy to see why lower interest rates would tend to stimulate new investment and drive up demand for commodities.

Commodities are used in great quantity, but the supply available at any one time is tiny by comparison. A sudden increase in demand will tend to send the commodity price higher because the quantity of the commodity available will need to be rationed among more would-be purchasers. A sudden decrease in the demand for a commodity (for example, crude oil, or wheat) will tend to send prices lower. Therefore, we see the strange sharp corners in Figure 2 that seem to be related to changing debt levels and higher or lower interest rates.

[2] The current plan of central banks is to raise interest rates aggressively. My concern is that this approach will leave commodity prices too low for producers. They will be tempted to decrease or stop production.

Politicians are concerned about the price of food and fuel being too high for consumers. Lenders are concerned about interest rates being too low to properly compensate for the loss of value of their investments due to inflation. The plan, which is already being implemented in the United States, is to raise interest rates and to significantly reverse Quantitative Easing (QE). Some people call the latter Quantitative Tightening (QT).

The concern that I have is that aggressively raising interest rates and reversing QE will lead to commodity prices that are too low for producers. There are likely to be many other impacts as well, such as the following:

  • Lower energy supply, due to cutbacks in production and lack of new investment
  • Lower food supply, due to inadequate fertilizer and broken supply lines
  • Much defaulting of debt
  • Pension plans that reduce or stop payments because of debt-related problems
  • Falling prices of stock
  • Defaults on derivatives

[3] My analysis shows how important increased energy consumption has been to economic growth over the last 200 years. Energy consumption per capita has been growing during this entire period, except during times of serious economic distress.

Figure 4. World energy consumption from 1820-2010, based on data from Appendix A of Vaclav Smil’s Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects and BP Statistical Review of World Energy for 1965 and subsequent. Wind and solar energy are included in “Biofuels.”

Figure 4 shows the amazing growth in world energy consumption between 1820 and 2010. In the early part of the period, the energy used was mostly wood burned as fuel. In some parts of the world, animal dung was also used as fuel. Gradually, other fuels were added to the mix.

Figure 5. Estimated average annual increase in world energy consumption over 10-year periods using the data underlying Figure 4, plus similar additional data through 2020.

Figure 5 takes the same information shown in Figure 4 and calculates the average approximate annual increase in world energy consumption over 10-year periods. A person can see from this chart that the periods from 1951-1960 and from 1961-1970 were outliers on the high side. This was the time of rebuilding after World War II. Many families were able to own a car for the first time. The US highway interstate system was begun. Many pipelines and electricity transmission lines were built. This building continued into the 1971-1980 period.

Figure 6. Same chart as Figure 5, except that the portion of economic growth that was devoted to population growth is shown in blue at the bottom of each 10-year period. The amount of growth in energy consumption “left over” for improvement in the standard of living is shown in red.

Figure 6 displays the same information as Figure 5, except that each column is divided into two pieces. The lower (blue) portion represents the average annual growth in population during each period. The part left over at the top (in red) represents the growth in energy consumption that was available for increases in standard of living.

Figure 7. The same information displayed in Figure 6, displayed as an area chart. Blue areas represent average annual population growth percentages during these 10-year periods. The red area is determined by subtraction. It represents the amount of energy consumption growth that is “left over” for growth in the standard of living. Captions show distressing events during periods of low increases in the portion available to raise standards of living.

Figure 7 shows the same information as Figure 6, displayed as an area chart. I have also shown some of the distressing events that happened when growth in population was, in effect, taking up essentially all of energy consumption growth. The world economy could not grow normally. There was a tendency toward conflict. Unusual events would happen during these periods, including the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union and the restrictions associated with the COVID pandemic.

The economy is a self-organizing system that behaves strangely when there is not enough inexpensive energy of the right types available to the system. Wars tend to start. Layers of government may disappear. Strange lockdowns may occur, such as the current restrictions in China.

[4] The energy situation at the time of rising interest rates in the 1960 to 1980 period was very different from today.

If we define years with high inflation rates as those with inflation rates of 5% or higher, Figure 8 shows that the period with high US inflation rates included nearly all the years from 1969 through 1982. Using a 5% inflation cutoff, the year 2021 would not qualify as a high inflation rate year.

Figure 8. US inflation rates, based on Table 1.1.4 Price Index for Gross Domestic Product, published by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

It is only when we look at annualized quarterly data that inflation rates start spiking to high levels. Inflation rates have been above 5% in each of the four quarters ended 2022-Q1. Trade problems related to the Ukraine Conflict have tended to add to price pressures recently.

Figure 9. US inflation rates, based on Table 1.1.4 Price Index for Gross Domestic Product, published by the US Bureau of Economic Analysis.

Underlying these price spikes are increases in the prices of many commodities. Some of this represents a bounce back from artificially low prices that began in late 2014, probably related to the discontinuation of US QE3 (See Figure 2). These prices were far too low for producers. Coal and natural gas prices have also needed to rise, as a result of depletion and prior low prices. Food prices are also rising rapidly, since food is grown and transported using considerable quantities of fossil fuels.

The main differences between that period leading up to 1980 and now are the following:

[a] The big problem in the 1970s was spiking crude oil prices. Now, our problems seem to be spiking crude oil, natural gas and coal prices. In fact, nuclear power may also be a problem because a significant portion of uranium processing is performed in Russia. Thus, we now seem to be verging on losing nearly all our energy supplies to conflict or high prices!

[b] In the 1970s, there were many solutions to the crude oil problem, which were easily implemented. Electricity production could be switched from crude oil to coal or nuclear, with little problem, apart from building the new infrastructure. US cars were very large and fuel inefficient in the early 1970s. These could be replaced with smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles that were already being manufactured in Europe and Japan. Home heating could be transferred to natural gas or propane, to save crude oil for places where energy density was really needed.

Today, we are told that a transition to green energy is a solution. Unfortunately, this is mostly wishful thinking. At best, a transition to green energy will need a huge investment of fossil fuels (which are increasingly unavailable) over a period of at least 30 to 50 years if it is to be successful. See my article, Limits to Green Energy Are Becoming Much Clearer. Vaclav Smil, in his book Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects, discusses the need for very long transitions because energy supply needs to match the devices using it. Furthermore, new energy types are generally only add-ons to other supply, not replacements for those supplies.

[c] The types of economic growth in (a) the 1960 to 1980 period and (b) the period since 2008 are very different. In the earlier of these periods (especially prior to 1973), it was easy to extract oil, coal and natural gas inexpensively. Inflation-adjusted oil prices of less than $20 per barrel were typical. An ever-increasing supply of this oil seemed to be available. New machines (created with fossil fuels) made workers increasingly efficient. The economy tended to “overheat” if interest rates were not repeatedly raised (Figure 1). While higher interest rates could be expected to slow the economy, this was of little concern because rapid growth seemed to be inevitable. The supply of finished goods and services made by the economy was growing rapidly, even with headwinds from the higher interest rates.

On the other hand, in the 2008 to 2020 period, economic growth is largely the result of financial manipulation. The system has been flooded with increasing amounts of debt at ever lower interest rates. By the time of the lockdowns of 2020, would-be workers were being paid for doing nothing. World production of finished goods and services declined in 2020, and it has had difficulty rising since. In the first quarter of 2022, the US economy contracted by -1.4%. If headwinds from higher interest rates and QT are added, the economic system is likely to encounter substantial debt defaults and increasing breakdowns of supply lines.

[5] Today’s spiking energy prices appear to be much more closely related to the problems of the 1913 to 1945 era than they are to the problems of the late 1970s.

Looking back at Figure 7, our current period is more like the period between the two world wars than the period in the 1970s that we often associate with high inflation. In both periods, the “red” portion of the chart (the portion I identify with rising standard of living), has pretty much disappeared. In both the 1913 to 1945 period and today, it is nearly all the energy supplies other than biofuels that are disappearing.

In the 1913 to 1945 period, the problem was coal. Mines were becoming increasingly depleted, but raising coal prices to pay for the higher cost of extracting coal from depleted mines tended to make the coal prohibitively expensive. Mine operators tried to reduce wages, but this was not a solution either. Fighting broke out among countries, almost certainly related to inadequate coal supplies. Countries wanted coal to supply to their citizens so that industry could continue, and so that citizens could continue heating their homes.

Figure 10. Slide prepared by Gail Tverberg showing peak coal estimates for the UK and for Germany.

As stated at the beginning of this section, today’s problem is that nearly all our energy supplies are becoming unaffordable. In some sense, wind and solar may look better, but this is because of mandates and subsidies. They are not suitable for operating the world economy within any reasonable time frame.

There are other parallels to the 1913 to 1945 period. One of the big problems of the 1930s was prices that would not rise high enough for farmers to make a profit. Oil prices in the United States were extraordinarily low then. BP 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy reports that the average oil price in 1931, in 2020 US$, was $11.08. This is the lowest inflation-adjusted price of any year back to 1865. Such a price was almost certainly too low for producers to make a profit. Low prices, relative to rising costs, have recently been problems for both farmers and oil producers.

Another major problem of the 1930s was huge income disparity. Wide income disparity is again an issue today, thanks to increased specialization. Competition with unskilled workers in low wage countries is also an issue.

It is important to note that the big problem of the 1930s was deflation rather than inflation, as the debt bubble started popping in 1929.

[6] If a person looks only at the outcome of raising interest rates in the 1960s to 1980 timeframe, it is easy to get a misleading idea of the impact of increased interest rates now.

If people look only at what happened in the 1980s, the longer-term impact of the spike in interest rates doesn’t seem too severe. The world economy was growing well before the interest rates were raised. After the peak in interest rates, the world economy generally continued to grow. As a result of the high oil prices and the spiking interest rates, the world hastened its transition to using a bit less crude oil per person.

Figure 11. Per capita crude oil production from 1973 through 2021. Crude oil amounts are from international statistics of the US Energy Information Administration. Population estimates are from UN 2019 population estimates. The low population growth projection from the UN data is used for 2021.

At the same time, the world economy was able to expand the use of other energy products, at least through 2018.

Figure 12. World per capita total energy supply based on data from BP’s 2021 Statistical Review of World Energy. World per capita crude oil is based on international data of the EIA, together with UN 2019 population estimates. Note that crude oil data is through 2021, but total energy amounts are only through 2020.

Since 2019, our problem has been that the total energy supply has not been keeping up with the rising population. The cost of extraction of all kinds of oil, coal and natural gas keeps rising due to depletion, but the ability of customers to afford the higher prices of finished goods and services made with those energy products does not rise to match these higher costs. Energy prices probably would have spiked in 2020 if it were not for COVID-related restrictions. Production of oil, coal and natural gas has not been able to rise sufficiently after the lockdowns for economies to fully re-open. This is the primary reason for the recent spiking of energy prices.

Turning to inflation rates, the relationship between higher interest rates (Figure 1) and annual inflation rates (Figure 8) is surprisingly not very close. Inflation rates rose during the 1960 to 1973 period despite rising interest rates, mostly likely because of the rapid growth of the economy from an increased per-capita supply of inexpensive energy.

Figure 8 shows that inflation rates did not come down immediately after interest rates were raised to a high level in 1980, either. There was a decline in the inflation rate to 4% in 1983, but it was not until the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union in 1991 that inflation rates have tended to stay close to 2% per year.

[7] A more relevant recent example with respect to the expected impact of rising interest rates is the impact of the increase in US short-term interest rates in the 2004 to 2007 period. This led to the subprime debt collapse in the US, associated with the Great Recession of 2008-2009.

Looking back at Figure 1, one can see the effect of raising short-term interest rates in the 2004 to 2007 era. This eventually led to the Great Recession of 2008-2009. I wrote about this in my academic paper, Oil Supply Limits and the Continuing Financial Crisis, published in the journal Energy in 2010.

The situation we are facing today is much more severe than in 2008. The debt bubble is much larger. The shortage of energy products has spread beyond oil to coal and natural gas, as well. The idea of raising interest rates today is very much like going into the Great Depression and deciding to raise interest rates because bankers don’t feel like they are getting an adequate share of the goods and services produced by the economy. If there really aren’t enough goods and services for everyone, giving lenders a larger share of the total supply cannot work out well.

[8] The problems we are encountering have been hidden for many years by an outdated understanding of how the economy operates.

Because of the physics of the economy, it behaves very differently than most people assume. People almost invariably assume that all aspects of the economy can “stay together” regardless of whether there are shortages of energy or of other products. People also assume that shortages will be immediately become obvious through high prices, without realizing the huge role interest rates and debt levels play. People further assume that these spiking prices will somehow bring about greater supply, and the whole system will go on as before. Furthermore, they expect that whatever resources are in the ground, which we have the technical capability to extract, can be extracted.

It is important to note that prices are not necessarily a good indicator of shortages. Just as a fever can have many causes, high prices can have many causes.

The economy can only continue as long as all of its important parts continue. We cannot assume that reported reserves of anything can really be extracted, even if the reserves have been audited by a reliable auditor. What actually can be extracted depends on prices staying high enough to generate funds for additional investment as required. The amount that can be extracted also depends on the continuation of international supply lines providing goods such as steel pipe. The continued existence of governments that can keep order in the areas where extraction is to take place is important, as well.

What we should be most concerned about is a very rapidly shrinking economic system that cannot accommodate very many people. It seems that such a situation might occur if the debt bubble is popped and too many supply lines are broken. There may be a time lag between when interest rates are raised and when the adverse impacts on the economy are seen. This is a reason why central bankers should be very cautious about the increases in interest rates they make as well as QT. The situation may turn out much worse than planned!

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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4,216 Responses to Is the debt bubble supporting the world economy in danger of collapsing?

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    “TUI tells ‘hundreds’ of passengers holidays are cancelled over text” – The Mail reports that TUI told hundreds of passengers that their holidays are cancelled over text following eight-hour airport waits, as hundreds of trips are axed amid half-term travel chaos brought on by airlines’ failure to prepare properly for the end of Covid restrictions.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10865989/Bristol-airport-likened-ZOO-amid-travel-chaos-EasyJet-TUI-axe-hundreds-flights.html

  2. Lastcall says:

    I think someone else posted this link earlier…From ‘Weathering the Storm’.

    ‘To be clear, this virus (SARS COV 2MA) and Omicron are not identical, but both are mouse adapted and computer designed……’

    ..and 5000 – ish versus 170,000 -shite

    ‘More fake numbers

    It turns out that regimes can public all sorts of data that serves to undermine every position they’ve taken on the ‘pandemic’ and rely on the media to look the other way. For instance, while the UK government has been claiming that Covid has caused over 170,000 deaths (up to late April), their own National Health Service was publishing numbers that showed that, by that point, only 5,115 people had actually of Covid itself.(35) Everybody else had allegedly died with Covid, although even that cannot be said to be a certainty, given the inadequacy of the testing protocols. What’s more, only 1,854 of them died before the first ‘vaccines’ were rolled out; the rest had died since. So much for ‘safe and effective’.

    https://endurancea71.substack.com/p/vital-to-the-narrative?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0MTY3OTAzMCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NTcwNTkwNjYsIl8iOiJxVE9nSiIsImlhdCI6MTY1Mzg3NDM5NSwiZXhwIjoxNjUzODc3OTk1LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzIwNDc2Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.J7thZRcvWWp84O8NyJ9kJg6CU4os8l7dAuIhV818EYU&s=r

    • hillcountry says:

      thanks. Can’t figure out how Endurance doesn’t have a lot of action. The writing is excellent, the speculation well-grounded. I tend to think there’s a way to integrated Gail’s dissipative-structure ideas and the nature of collapse in a self-organizing system, with the parasitical elements in human society who will loot the thing all the way down. Cause and effect become muddled. Anyway, I dropped one of Gail’s quotes over there. If Endurance hasn’t had the good fortune to read Gail, now there’s an invite.

      • I think that part of Endurance’s problem is that he has put together an awfully lot of “stuff,” most of which has been reported by other bloggers. There is not quite enough that is new and easy to understand.

        Within what he writes, he doesn’t always use the best judgement. For example, that this paragraph seems a little “over the top” to me.

        It turns out that regimes can public all sorts of data that serves to undermine every position they’ve taken on the ‘pandemic’ and rely on the media to look the other way. For instance, while the UK government has been claiming that Covid has caused over 170,000 deaths (up to late April), their own National Health Service was publishing numbers that showed that, by that point, only 5,115 people had actually of Covid itself.(35) Everybody else had allegedly died with Covid, although even that cannot be said to be a certainty, given the inadequacy of the testing protocols. What’s more, only 1,854 of them died before the first ‘vaccines’ were rolled out; the rest had died since. So much for ‘safe and effective’.

        I doubt anyone believes that COVID was the primary cause of this few deaths.

        Also, we don’t know anything about this author, except that this blog was launched a year ago. He seems to write about a variety of topics. https://endurancea71.substack.com

        It is hard to get the impression that he is an expert in any of these areas.
        People who want to read about the biology of COVID are more likely to go to an author who sounds like he has some background in this area.

  3. MG says:

    I like the Czech town of Olomouc in the region of Morava. I visit it every year in order to discover it. It is the town situated in the beet root region, bordering with the historically coal rich Silesia. It is a cultural center of central Europe, with its Catholic Archbishopric stemming from Great Moravia center tradition. The wealth of this Archbishopric was based also on owning the Vítkovice ironworks in Silesia, which formed a part of its territory.

    It is the town where Franz Joseph I became the emperor of Austria-Hungary. It also hosts a gothic church of black St. Maurice, who refused to fight against its fellow white Christians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice).

    This time I was particularly caught by the beet root history, how its growing production in the 19th century enabled the population growth, replacing the need for honey.

    The emigration crisis in the end of the 19th century, which was absorbed by the USA, was a precedent moment of the WW1, which stripped the coal rich Silesia from Austria and created the Czechoslovakia, using the South part of Silesia, and Poland, using the North part of Silesia.

    The unity of the agriculturally suitable region of Moravia around Olomouc and the energy from Silesian coal created an overlooked center which became the scene of the creation of the new states after the implosion of the Austria-Hungary empire.

    Energy of coal turned into sugar.

    • MG says:

      Of course, I meant SUGAR BEET, not beet root. Somewhat confused it with my little garden where I plant some beet roots.

      • MG says:

        When the sanctions against Russia started, it was the empty shelves with sugar of the shops in Russia, which you could see.

        Energy: sugars itself or turned into alcohol.

        The distillery in our village faces high price of natural gas.

        Poroshenko, the former Ukrainian president, doing business with sweets production.

  4. Michael Le Merchant says:

    1,500 more flights canceled Sunday, disrupting the holiday weekend

    It’s another chaotic holiday weekend for Americans traveling by air.

    Almost 4,800 U.S. flights have been canceled since Friday, with 1,500 more on Sunday morning, according to flight tracking website FlightAware.

    Delta Air Lines is most affected by the cancellations, with more than 400 flights axed on Saturday and Sunday. Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport in Atlanta, where Delta is headquartered and has its largest hub, is heavily affected by the travel snags.

    The carrier blamed Saturday’s cancellations on bad weather and “air traffic control actions” on Friday, saying it is trying to cancel flights at least 24 hours in advance.

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    https://www.kcci.com/article/memorial-day-weekend-flight-cancellations/40132756

  5. Michael Le Merchant says:

    Pilot Flying J CEO on Diesel Fuel Supply Shortage

    • This video is somewhat technical, so it is somewhat hard to understand. The company Pilot Flying J operates a large chain of truck stops, some of which operate under the name “Pilot” and some of which are called “Flying J.” This is a video of the CEO of the company talking about how the cutback on his company’s allocation of a diesel additive (by 26% to 50%) will adversely affect the economy. (I presume that this is the urea based additive that has been discussed elsewhere.) https://pilotflyingj.com

      With a very much reduced supply of this additive, the trucks using these truck stops will need to cut back shipments, especially in the Northeast, Southwest and West. This will adversely affect many things that are shipped by truck, including ethanol and biodiesel distribution. We can hope that this problem is quickly solved.

      • Mike Roberts says:

        Heck, the economy is going to be adversely affected by finite resources eventually, if it’s not already. These people just want to keep raping the planet as long as is humanly possible. Damn the consequences.

        • Artleads says:

          I tend to agree. Although I don’t see the possibility of universally stopping “raping the planet,” I don’t see expanding it as a going future concern.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            I don’t see that possibility either, Artleads. It would take a population crash or a civilisation collapse.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Speaking of… hey mike… did you have any Good Pie today?

            • Artleads says:

              Would it take or would it lead to these things (that correlate with “a population crash or a civilisation collapse) Or could it go either way?

              A lot of the discussion here centers on the belief that it’s only the “raping of the planet” that keeps us from very extreme chaos in the West. But another belief is that the planet could self organize in a way that staves off the worst for “us.” Or not.

            • we have locked ourselves into ‘profit’ as our driving force.

              the planet doesn’t allow profit, in the ultimate sense.

              so we will be disposed of, or at best reduced to insignificance.

            • Mike Roberts says:

              Yes, Artleads, it does sometimes seem as though some here want the impossible, for planet rape to continue indefinitely. The planet definitely will self organise (we are part of the planet) but I doubt it will be in a way that will stave off what “we” consider the worst.

            • humankind has been a 100000 year aberration as far as the planet is concerned.

              in 4 billion years, that counts as no more than a sneeze

            • Artleads says:

              Mike Roberts: Thanks. We are part of the planet. I keep saying that. The more “we’s” that come together on any sane behavior the more influence we are likely to have. The lovely thing (which makes us free) is that extinction is so powerful a prospect that we needn’t burden ourselves with hope. We still do sane things and try to pull together…for whatever it’s worth, but without hope.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          ‘They’ always ‘they’ as if mike is not right in there humping and pumping away at Mother Earth …

          • Kowalainen says:

            Blowing through finite resources while pointing the finger of blame is THE favorite pastime of the Rapacious Primate.

      • Artleads says:

        Flying J wanted to build a truck stop next to a scenic highway here in NM. Hundreds of people, including myself (coming from a long term, much underappreciated holistic perspective) and defeated the project. The people pushing back hardest and most effectively seemed to care mainly about their property values, and seem to care zip about the incremental, unending assault on the rural quality of the area.

        • Artleads says:

          Rural quality lifestyle costs less and is more resilient than its urban counterpoint. Especially when the two landscapes are contiguous. Some people interpret contiguity as a reason to have sprawl, but it works in exactly the opposite way.

  6. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    has everyone heard about the big breakouts of measles, mumps and rubella TODAY in US cities?

    no?

    it’s because none of that actually happened.

    because most of the people here have had the MMR vaccine.

    because the MMR vaccine works.

    when a vaccine works, the population gains herd immunity.

    when a vaccine doesn’t provide herd immunity, that is called a total failure.

      • MG says:

        And what if the autism is an inability to live on the same energy level?

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I highly recommend watching Vaxxed

        • This is a 1.5-hour video from 2018 on MMR vaccine and autism. (I have a son with autism.) Near the beginning it quotes William W. Johnson Ph. D., Senior Scientist at the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention, as saying the following regarding side effects of MMR vaccines:

          “We lied about our findings. The CDC can no longer be trusted to do vaccine safety work. It can’t be trusted to be transparent.”

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Not sure if I have mentioned but a rabidly pro vaxxer I play hockey has a son on the spectrum… I was only made aware of this last month… by a friend who is vax injured….

            I suspect that if I passed him the doco Vaxxed… he would never speak to me again.

            What’s that quote — if you show the fool that he is wrong he lashes out at you … if you show an intelligent person they are wrong – he thanks you.

            He would definitely lash out based on the comments he makes about the unvaxxed (assuming everyone is I guess)

  7. Wet My Beak says:

    Hosannah. We have been saved!!!

    CNN, the world’s top purveyor of truth has broken the story of our coming rescue:

    https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2022/05/world/iter-nuclear-fusion-climate-intl-cnnphotos/

  8. Rodster says:

    “The Worst Energy Crisis In U.S. History Is Going To Get Even Worse In The Months Ahead“

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/the-worst-energy-crisis-in-u-s-history-is-going-to-get-even-worse-in-the-months-ahead/

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      “Are you ready for what is coming next?”

      a slight downturn in bAU?

      “Are you ready to pay six dollars for a gallon of gasoline?”

      YES!

      “Are you ready to pay much higher prices for everything at our major stores as the price of diesel goes haywire?”

      YES!

      “Are you ready for widespread blackouts all over the U.S. this summer?”

      uh, well, anywhere except where I live.

      high prices? YES YES YES!

      high prices on essentials will be the catalyst that reduces discretionary sectors and sends more money towards the producers of essential goods and services.

      high prices on products are way better than unavailable products.

      blackouts this summer?

      well, maybe it’s just me, but I would prefer summer blackouts over the EU scenario where many of them may be freezing in the dark this winter.

      2022 wooooooo, good times, fun times, exciting!

    • CTG says:

      Just to put in my 2 cents… The effect of high energy prices are not shown yet until much later.

      1. The drop in discretionary spending will cause layoffs as many item/services are not necessary and it can be cut back (Netflix, hair styling, holidays, etc)

      2. The high prices have not filtered through the supply chain yet on essential goods. Some companies are trying to absorb the cost but eventually it will fail.

      For those who are old enough to remember 1970s in USA (I know I am not from USA and I just 2 years old in the 1970s), it is only a small % of supply loss that lead to the chaos in 1970s.

      Now, imagine we have a much larger population, more complacent and longer supply chain lines to take into consideration.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        yes on #1. the layoffs could become massive and throw the economy into chaos or ultimately collapse.

        but on #2. the increases in energy costs are filtering through and causing inflation, but this could stop soon.

        if energy costs level off, even at high levels, then energy costs will no longer be driving inflation.

        high energy costs don’t drive inflation, but increasing energy costs do.

        though yes, all of the increasing energy costs have not yet filtered through, so I do expect prices to continue higher, at least for a while, though demand destruction and the deepening of the recession which we are ALREADY IN, may turn this scenario to deflation.

        we’ll see, maybe in 2023.

        it’s just a simulation, but wow it has become quite an exciting simulation here in 2022.

        freakin simulated bAU tonight, baby!

    • High prices, at least for a while, until world recession sets in, I would guess.

  9. Fast Eddy says:

    Is Monkeypox a Cover for VAIDS? “Something Really Stinks About How All This Is Lining Up” – Dr. McCullough [VIDEO INTERVIEW]

    https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2022/05/whats-their-game-plan-with-monkeypox-dr-mccullough-breaks-down-the-science-and-over-the-top-response-video-interview/

    • Michael Le Merchant says:

      HIV/AIDS Vaccine Candidates Based on Replication-Competent Recombinant Poxvirus NYVAC-C-KC Expressing Trimeric gp140 and Gag-Derived Virus-Like Particles or Lacking the Viral Molecule B19 That Inhibits Type I Interferon Activate Relevant HIV-1-Specific B and T Cell Immune Functions in Nonhuman Primates
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28179536/

      Wrecked immune system may lead to independently circulating strains and more viral evolution :

      “An increased frequency of human monkeypox virus infections, especially in immunocompromised individuals, may permit monkeypox virus to evolve and maintain itself independently in human populations.”
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17661673/

      “The following clinical features were observed: skin rash (n = 40), fever (n = 36), lymphadenopathy (n = 35), genital ulcer (n = 25), body aches (n = 25), headache (n = 19), sore throat (n = 18), pruritus (n = 15), and conjunctivitis and photophobia (n = 9). Nasal congestion, cough, skin ulcers, and hemorrhagic skin lesions were observed in 5 cases each. Other less common features were nausea and vomiting (n = 3), hepatomegaly (n = 3), and scrotal edema (n = 2).”

      “Lymphadenopathy was observed in the following sites: cervical (n = 11), submental (n = 5), inguinal (n = 12), axillary (n = 10), and generalized (n = 12). Twenty-one of 40 (52.5%) cases developed 1 or more complications, including secondary bacterial skin infection (n = 19), gastroenteritis (n = 5), sepsis (n = 4), bronchopneumonia (n = 3), encephalitis (n = 3), keratitis (n = 3), and premature rupture of membrane at 16 weeks’ gestation and resultant intrauterine fetal death (n = 1). All diagnoses were based on clinical judgement of the attending physician. Patients reported disfigurement from widespread skin lesions, pruritus, painful pustular lesions, and genital ulcers as the most distressful symptoms. Eleven of the 40 (27.5%) patients were observed to have developed symptoms of anxiety and depression during admission requiring psychological counseling.”
      https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/8/e210/5734993?login=false

      Poxviruses have low evolutionary rates of around one mutation per genome per year. The MPOX sequences associated with the recent outbreak, however, differ by about 40 mutations from viruses sequenced 4 years ago.
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT6jlyzX0AE3u81?format=jpg&name=medium

    • Herbie Ficklestein says:

      Parody..Adolf H is informed on 🐒 pox

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Seb7YtyDrgo

      So funny

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    Operation Mockingbird: Is the Intelligence Community Embedded Within the Mainstream Media?

    George Papadopoulos: “I believe, truly, that Democrat operatives are embedded within not only the mainstream media, but likely the mockingbird media theory that people talk about is actually a reality … I truly believe that the intelligence community is now embedded within the mainstream media, and these operatives as well are on the payroll of the Democrat Party … just follow where the head of the networks are working today and who their previous employers were, and you’ll understand the collusion there.”

    Full Video: http://www.redvoicemedia.com/2022/05/justice-is-coming-durham-moves-into-action-george-papadopoulos-stew-peters-extended-interview/

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    Debilitating Injuries That Don’t Go Away: There’s No Doubt That the Vaccine Can Cause Organic Disease

    https://rumble.com/v16l7ha-debilitating-injuries-that-dont-go-away-theres-no-doubt-that-the-vaccine-ca.html

    • Rodster says:

      Doctors are being silenced over this, including being called conspiracy theorists.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What astounds me is that there has not been a revolt in the medical community — obviously they are seeing all the injuries…

        Here in NZ they remain under mandate – so they will shortly be required to get a 4th injection …

        After seeing all these horrific injuries coming through the door don’t you live in fear of your next appointment with potential heart damage???

        The cardiologist my mate saw said she says on average FIVE people every single day with vax injuries similar to his. She has to be injected to continue to work…. WTF?????

    • Dr. Paul Marik: “The vaccine-injured seem to have severe and often profound neurological injuries and neurological manifestations, which are progressive, and unlike post-COVID, which tend to resolve with time, these symptoms do not get better. So we have patients 12, 14 months post vaccination who are still struggling with the same symptoms … it’s very disabling.”

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    google does not like me – I am constantly harassed by them requiring me to prove I am a human etc… I suspect they do not like what I search for so they drive me off their app

    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/google-deceptive-practices-perceptions-behaviors/

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING THREAD UNPACKING THE JIGGERY POCKERY OF “INDEPENDENT” SCIENTIFIC PANEL IN THE TOGETHER IVERMECTIN TRIAL…

    It SCREAMS potential for corruption!!

    https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1511612742351798276

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    Copied from a trucker:

    Buckle Up! Bad Bad Bad news!
    IMPORTANT READ!!!

    Do you know what DEF fluid is? It’s Diesel Exhaust Fluid. Every Diesel truck that has been made since 2010 is required to use it. It’s a product made of 67% Urea fertilizer and 33% distilled water. Every diesel truck you see driving down the road today has to have this product to drive. The engines won’t start without it. There are regulators inside the engine that mix DEF with the Diesel to reduce Diesel emissions. That’s the purpose of DEF.

    Right now, Russia is the largest exporter of Urea by a wide margin. Qatar is second. Egypt and China are Tied for 3rd. Both Russia and China have decided to no longer export Urea. On top of that, India is the largest manufacturer of Urea in the world even though they consume most of what they make. What little they would export……….they no longer do. They are now stopping the exportation of any and all Urea minus a deal they just cut with Sri Lanka.

    What does this mean for you and me? Well, first, the United States imports most of it’s Urea fertilizer. We are the third largest importer in the entire world. We depend on other countries to eat, drive and ship our products.

    Secondly… Flying J is the largest Service provider for Truckers around the Unites States. I’m sure you’ve seen their massive gas stations when traveling around the country. Flying J gets 70% of their DEF fluid from shipments via Union Pacific railroad. UP has single user access to the Fertilizer plants that Urea/DEF fluid comes from. No other rail provider has access to these distribution points. This means Flying J can’t just go around Union Pacific. Union Pacific is in charge….for a reason I’m gonna mention in a few paragraphs.
    Flying J provides 30% of all DEF consumed in the United States. UP has told Flying J to reduce their shipments by a whopping 50%. And if they do not comply then they will be completely embargoed. That would in effect bankrupt FJ. This means that 15% of all DEF consumed by truckers in the US is no longer available at the largest travel service center for the entire trucking industry.

    Rome rotted from the inside out. It was easily invaded because it was occupied with internal problems. It appears we have discovered the Trigger. DEF fluid. If this holds up, DEF shortages will be the catalyst that causes food shortages in the coming months. Not only is there a shortage of fertilizer to grow crops in drought-stricken states (See Kansas’ drop in wheat production for 2022)….but….now it looks like, unless the Federal Government intervenes via the Defense Production Act, …which I am no longer confident they will….there is gonna be an absolute massive shortage of trucking in the coming months.

    There simply isn’t going to be DEF fluid sufficient to keep the engines running and moving. Home Depot is now limiting the amount of DEF you can buy in their stores.
    I would think long and hard about the decisions you are making right now. Where you live. What you spend money on. How you prepare. This is so real that the CEO of Flying J, Shameek Konar was summoned to a Surface Transportation Board hearing to give them all this info.

    From what I’m reading….Blackrock is the majority shareholder of Union Pacific railroad. How is that important? Americas biggest fertilizer producer is CF Industries. Their largest shareholder is Blackrock. Blackrock controls the fertilizer industry in the U.S.. Union Pacific has exclusive rights to distribution points of fertilizer. Urea is fertilizer. Flying J needs Urea/DEF. Blackrock is controlling everything.

    The Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute is Tom Donilon, President Obama’s former National Security Advisor. Tom Donilon’s brother, Mike Donilon is a Senior Advisor to Joe Biden. Tom Donilon’s wife, Catherine Russell, is the White House Personnel Director. Tom Donilon’s daughter, Sarah Donilon, who graduated college in 2019, now works on the White House National Security Council.

    • Someone mentioned the need for DEF a while back. Thanks for mentioning it again, in connection with Russia. We forget important details.

      • drb753 says:

        But likely a nothing burger. Urea consumption by trucks is tiny compared to urea consumption by farmers. It is an easy to avoid problem by reducing, say, the supply to farmers by 1%. Someone is trying to maximize profits, that is all.

    • Rodster says:

      There’s a lady who wrote a book, “when the trucks stop moving” and how that would collapse industrial civilization. Trucks are used all over the world and are an important piece as how IC is allowed to be maintained and function.

      • vbaker says:

        Alice Friedman. DEF systems can be removed… I suppose this must happen to mitigate the loss of that particular chemical.

    • CTG says:

      Hey… I thought DEF is old story already? There is still DEF. Waiting for the day DEF is not around. Perhaps, diesel will run out first or perhaps all at once?

      • Alex says:

        There was an AdBlue doom panic here in Slovakia last year. A few weeks later, I was seeing internet ads for AdBlue on sale.

        The sky didn’t fall once again.

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    A few days back, I wrote via LinkedIn to a long time former colleague at Pfizer, Dr James Merton.
    James was head of anti-virals & vaccinology.

    He’s now senior in the JNJ organisation, still responsible for vaccine R&D.

    I was courteous but direct, challenging him to justify their c19 agent, which like other c19 “vaccines”, is harming & killing on an unprecedented scale.

    No reply from James. 20+ likes. Nobody rebutted what I’d said.

    LinkedIn determined that my open letter to James “breached their community guidelines”.

    Cheers
    Mike Yeadon

    https://t.me/robinmg/19991

    Seems he doesn’t have a few hundred million in the bank and needs that job … so he does what he’s told and dismisses anyone who calls him a murderer… funny what we’ll do for money

  16. Michael Le Merchant says:

    A dual covid/pox vaccine patent filed in 2021? What are the odds?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FT9SHXxXoAE4bgd?format=jpg&name=large

  17. Slowly at first says:

    Food preparation on a cruise ship: BAU par excellence!

    https://youtu.be/R2vXbFp5C9o

    • These big cruise ships are noted for their excesses of food.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Crews Ships — EEEEE UUUUU…. trapped on a boat with hundreds of MOREONS….

        Imagine the point where you are forced to interact with these people and you suddenly realize — holy f789 — I can’t get off this thing! And I paid thousands of dollars for this.

        Could be a soosiside situation (SS)… Don’t do it.

        Never get onto the boat.

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Death in Chile – a familiar tale of a country fighting a not-so-deadly virus with a deadly vaccine.

    Between 1973 and 1989, 3,000 people died or disappeared under dictator General Pinochet’s rule.

    https://metatron.substack.com/p/death-in-chile-a-familiar-tale-of

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7dba1f83-67ad-4bf6-974d-14b254e12714_1065x711.png

    Not often people would choose a murderous dictatorship … this is one of them…

  19. Michael Le Merchant says:

    LOL!

    Jacinda’s US trip Covid 19 blow: Top diplomat Chris Seed, press secretary Andrew Campbell test positive for Covid-19 ahead of White House visit

    Two key members of Prime Minister Jacinda’s Ardern United States trip have tested positive for Covid, just two days from her scheduled White House meeting with President Joe Biden.

    Top diplomat Chris Seed has tested positive for Covid-19, as has Ardern’s chief press secretary Andrew Campbell.

    “Both are isolating in San Francisco, where the Prime Minister departed from this morning,” a statement said.

    “The rest of the delegations is currently in air and en route to Washington DC. They produced negative RATS prior to leaving this morning. No one else in the delegation is
    currently symptomatic.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/pms-us-trip-covid-19-blow-top-diplomat-chris-seed-press-secretary-andrew-campbell-test-positive-for-covid-19-ahead-of-white-house-visit/NBQ5U4VO5VMFXEDPDKBLYC723A/

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      how is it possible that they have covid when they are triple jabbed?

      has the global vaccination program totally failed?

      that seems to be the only logical conclusion.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Failed. Totally. https://metatron.substack.com/p/covid-requiem-aeternam?s=r

        However ultimately it will succeed… cuz it was not meant to save us.

        Remember – the death rates for Covid are similar to that of a bad flu.. a little worse for the elderly .. a little less for young healthy people.

        There was nothing to save us from (and it is not possible to make an effective vaccine for a coronavirus)

      • One thing to keep in mind is that COVID is a coronavirus. The common cold is another common coronavirus. We all know that colds circulate endlessly. Immunity doesn’t last very long–perhaps six months or a year. People who claimed that the vaccines could provide immunity were basing their view on wishful thinking, not on any long term study. COVID is not closely related at all to measles, mumps, tuberculosis or other viruses that we think of vaccines as actually providing long-term immunity for.

        The aim of the vaccines for COVID is to reduce severity of the disease. In fact, this was the characteristic that the mRNA vaccines were evaluated on, originally. The plan is that if you catch COVID, you (hopefully) won’t get terribly sick with COVID. It might be somewhat possible to “flatten the curve” and keep more people out of the hospital.

        At first, mRNA vaccines seemed somewhat to reduce the likelihood that an immunized individual would catch COVID. But, as the virus mutated away from the original Wuhan version of the virus, this benefit has been nearly all lost. Now that we are at the booster stage, there is a window of about six weeks starting two weeks after vaccination has been given, where “breakthrough” infections are relatively uncommon for a given individual.

        However, overall, vaccinations don’t seem to be reducing the spread of the COVID at all. Part of problem is that the immunity gained through vaccination is not nearly as good as the immunity obtained from actually having the disease. Also, there is a tendency to become more, rather than less, susceptible to COVID, once the short-term immunity benefit of the vaccination wears off.

        Furthermore, if the immunized person catches a light case of COVID, he may not even be aware he has the disease, and may spread it all over, without realizing he has it. So immunized people very much contribute the the spread of the disease with their light cases.

        The materials used in the mRNA vaccines are sufficiently damaging to the immune system that repeating vaccinations very frequently (say, every six weeks) makes no sense. Also, side effects become more frequent and severe, as more doses are given. Several researchers are recommending against boosters because they don’t really do as much as hoped.

  20. Michael Le Merchant says:

    New Zealand Covid deaths after boosters
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSA4VsbWYAEBQYb?format=jpg&name=large

  21. Michael Le Merchant says:

    UK’s Credit Market Tells a Grim Story of a Looming Cash Crunch

    (Bloomberg) — The sterling bond market is flashing red, with double-digit losses and borrowers put to flight.

    That’s alarming for firms that need cash. They’re up against the Bank of England’s rate rises, a cost-of-living crisis with inflation at the highest in 40 years and the slow-burning legacy of low productivity. And then there’s the added fallout from Brexit. All in, Bloomberg Economics expects the economy to shrink 0.4% this quarter.

    “It makes for a pretty tough set up,” said Justin Jewell, a high-yield portfolio manager at BlueBay Asset Management LLP. “The sterling market has been a bit unloved this year partly because of BOE rate hikes and partly because the UK economic outlook is looking the weakest out of the major economies.”
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/uk-s-credit-market-tells-a-grim-story-of-a-looming-cash-crunch-1.1772076

  22. davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/serbia-russia-sign-natural-gas-deal-amid-ukraine-war/ar-AAXRphY?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6c6287dedead49fdbb69d7b9e994ef5f

    “May 29 (UPI) — Serbia has signed a new three-year deal with Russia to supply Serbians with natural gas as other European nations and the United States imposed sanctions on Russian oil and gas amid the war in Ukraine.”

    so Serbia just didn’t understand the benefits of the “sanctions”.

    for some reason, they prefer the benefits of Russian natural gas.

    perhaps something about not freezing in the dark this coming winter.

  23. Student says:

    Italian minister of (bad) Health Roberto Speranza has been heavily insulted during his recent trip in Sicily:

    ‘You are murderer, shame on you’

    https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/1530947987488243714

    https://twitter.com/RadioGenova/status/1530938351368519681

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Remove the security detail… and don’t restock the supermarkets…

      And watch that mob skin that f789er alive and eat him….

      The Elders know what happens … when there is no energy left to maintain their empire and pay their minions… They Know ….

      https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2731121756_10.jpg

  24. Yoshua says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Informative01/status/1530523919597420545

    Meanwhile at the WEF

    “The dream to reduce the global population by 50% by 2023 I think is becoming real”… applauds

    • Ed says:

      We are still at tiny percentage of dead.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        they must be expecting exponential growth in death rates.

        but they might want plausible deniability too.

        moneypox might be a part of that.

        we may see, soon enough.

        good time, fun times, exciting!

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        Most people arguing against the global population reduction conspiracy theory focus entirely on killing off large numbers of the currently living. They neglect another component: a simultaneous reduction in reproductive rates.
        Online stories of post-“vaccination” mothers suddenly losing their babies to miscarriage are making the rounds. Couple this with news that the spike protein can concentrate in the ovaries and gonads, and the question becomes, “what will fertility look like in 5 to 10 years for all those young people who were coerced into getting ‘vaccinated?’” I’m referring largely to the teenage and college-age future breeders of the world; those student populations who could only maintain their student status by getting injected.

        The early stage of the scamdemic picked off the old and the vulnerable – those that were energy expensive, relatively close to end of life, and of little productive use. The “vaccination” stage continues to manifest adverse reactions and deaths, however, the longer-term consequence may prove to significantly reduce fertility, thereby reducing the number of energy-expensive consumers incarnating in this world.

        Elon Musk and other techno-utopists have referred to the concept of “The Great Filter.” I see the scamdemic and the global “vaccination” campaign as a self-imposed great filter. Whether intended or not, our species is actively engaging in eugenics: there will be biological consequences following the injections. There will likely be genetic differences between the descendants of the “unvaccinated” and the (if possible) descendants of the “vaccinated.”
        Our species is bifurcating: there are those who take the shots and there are those who refuse the shots. Two separate branches of humanity that are going in different directions and may ultimately develop different values, mores, culture, technology, systems of governance and law, reproductive practices, etc.

        • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

          if this whole shebang is indeed a globalist Elites CT, where the CT is not just theoretical but an actual conspearasea…

          IF…

          then, perhaps the Elites actually think that this is for the greater good (their psyyyycho woketard version of the greater good)…

          ascribing evil intentions to the actions of the Elites may be more accurate…

          but IF they have so-called good intentions for the long term future of humanity, then the conspearasea is proceeding on different grounds.

    • Having the audience applaud at reducing the population by 50% by 2023 is pretty awful.

      Who is speaking on twitter link?

      Is it possible to get the “address” of the video, other than the twitter link?

    • ivanislav says:

      That is totally, absolutely, unbelievable. In today’s world where deepfakes (both audio and video) are readily available, I can’t just take it at face value. It’s too extreme to say it in public, even if it was the goal.

    • ivanislav says:

      It took just a minute to prove that clip false/edited. See the whole clip, below, at the 9:00 minute mark, where it’s about improving affordability.

      https://odysee.com/@Bombards_Body_Language:f/Body-Language—WEF-Class-of-2022:f

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        so it’s merely massive hubris on the part of these psycccchos who think they are achieving great Progress in their Modern Miracle improvements to the human immune system which has been evolving for millions of years.

        just hubris about medical Progress.

        carry on.

      • This is why I am happy to have commenters who can check out the validity of claims.

    • Student says:

      Are we sure that it was the real meaning of what he said?
      It seems to me too much clear…
      I mean, I can think that they could want it, but I’m suprised if they say it so clearly.
      If the sentence has the real meaning the comments here are giving it, this phrase should go around the world.
      Can we have a little bit more context of this sentence ?
      Thank you.

      • Student says:

        Ok, thank you. Now I’ve read all the comments and understood better. Thank you.

        • Student says:

          The purpose of these fakes is to make them popular (or if you like ‘viral’).
          After it has become popular, the tv news will say:

          “..ehy, look how far those conspiracy theorists can go !
          They are crazy !
          They are dangerous !
          Someone has to stop them !
          It is even more dangerous than guns in Texas !
          Let’s approve a law to imprison conspiracy theorists now !..”

      • Fast Eddy says:

        What’s wrong with wanting to reduce the population by half…. surely everyone should applaud that goal

        I’d applaud reducing by 100%

  25. Dennis L. says:

    So, what is our score?

    Oil: for a long time consensus here was $60/barrel give or take. Not even close
    Inflation: for a long time it was deflation. Not even close
    End of the world: since 2016 any day. Not even close

    Any others I missed?

    Information is only information if it makes a difference, otherwise it is noise, Claude Shannon.

    I skim now, things are changing but very difficult to predict.

    Dennis L.

    • Jef Jelten says:

      A half dozen countries have been bombed back to the stone age.
      Millions have been slaughtered.
      Tens of millions permanently wounded.
      Hundreds of millions displaced.
      Amazon emitting more carbon than it absorbs
      Oceans Are Warming Faster Than Predicted, 40% faster.
      half a billion people fell into starvation poverty over the last 2 years.
      99% of the population of the wealthy west lost significant wealth over the last 5 years while 1% increased wealth by trillions.
      Chronic disease has increased exponentially in the developed world.
      Fertility and testosterone have declined 50-60%.

      Just to scratch the surface…but hey…glad you are doing OK!

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      There are serious issues with affordable energy that are liable to take down the global economy at some point, but I for one have never tried to put a ‘date’ on it.

      The self-organising economy can act in very strange and unexpected ways, but that does not mean that it will always find a way to avoid collapse.

      ‘Nothing happens until it happens.’

      I suspect that some people are eager for the collapse to happen, some of them even because they figure that it is the only way that their ethnic group stands a chance of survival, eg. the British.

      And others may have some other, psychological, need for global catastrophe, as they struggle to cope with their own condition.

      But none of that suggests that collapse will not happen at some point, which looks likely – but I have never put a date on it, and I am not going to.

      • Kowalainen says:

        And most people in IC implicitly “work” toward collapse. Although of none of their own fault. They’re just well adjusted and conditioned to a profoundly sick, solipsistic society.

      • Collapse seems to happen in steps. We are already in the midst of collapse. The clearly downhill path started in 2019, and 2020 (with COVID) pushed the world economy further.

        Different parts of the world, and different people within different parts of the world, experience collapse differently. The rising conflict among political parties is part of collapse. Rising conflict actually started before Donald Trump was elected in 2016.

        We are basically dealing with “not enough to go around.” Some have described the situation as “catabolic collapse.” How it looks precisely keeps changing. Government organizations that seemed to be trustworthy before, stop being trustworthy. Wars start. The level of world hunger rises. Death rates rise. The number of broken supply lines and empty shelves keeps increasing.

        Like an avalanche, collapse happens slowly at first, and then (perhaps), all at once. We are likely to miss the starting parts of collapse, if we don’t look for them.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          Yes, catabolic collapse is an interesting way to frame the collapse of civilisations, the idea that they get to the point that they can no longer obtain the energy and other resources that are required to maintain themselves.

          It is a parallel to the idea that dissipative structures compete to order their environment to maximise the concentration of energy to their own maintenance, and they eventually fail to do so.

          Everything ‘flares up’ and then burns out. Stars and even entire galaxies do it, so it comes as no massive surprise that human civilisations do it too. Everything does.

          As you say, it will be interesting to see how that unfolds in a self-organising global economy like ours. It may try to ditch parts of itself to maintain less, or the interconnected complexity may bring the whole thing down pretty fast. Time will tell.

          There are signs that the SOGE may ditch Western Europe, and maybe even the USA, and try to maintain some complexity in Eurasia. Humans may have less ‘control’ over that outcome than they might suppose, and even their resistance may well facilitate it. Again, time will tell. It is all good in any case.

          Perhaps humans will be able to maintain a level of civilisation like in the classical period, with empires, Caesars and pharaohs, that sort of thing. There may be a lot of ‘drama’ left yet, and there are various ways to ‘frame’ it in terms of ‘purpose’.

          A lot of people these days suggest that maybe it is ‘not all about’ a massive population and their material wellbeing, and that is certainly one way to look at it.

          • Kim says:

            Humans who are insuling resistant suffer from muscle catabolism. It is common in older people, who tend to become more insulin resistant as they age.

            As we lose muscle, we become not just more physically frail but more vulnerable to illness.

            Cut down on carbs. More animal fats and good oils. More protein. Exercise.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              If you are in the US … I believe you can go to an aging clinic and get HGH prescribed… I am told that will help retain muscle and vitality.

              If I was norm’s age I’d definitely go for it – there’s nothing to lose at a certain point.

            • Kowalainen says:

              “Cut down on carbs. More animal fats and good oils. More protein.”

              You should do precisely, exactly and perfectly diametrically opposite to what the narrative peddler Kim is suggesting. Oh yes.

              Oils and fat decrease the insulin sensitivity by clogging up the intercellular receptors found in the liver and muscles.

              Just chuck in the carbs and whenever you’re going to do some exercise. Spike the smoothie with a deciliter of pure carbs – table sugar.

              No sugar high or crash when you’ve got peaked out insulin sensitivity. Your muscles and liver will soak it up and exercise will be fantastic.

              Questions on that Kim?
              No?
              I guessed so.

            • hillcountry says:

              that’s a good analogy!
              and good advice

        • hillcountry says:

          There’s a guest post at Wolfstreet by a commercial real estate developer that highlights one more straw on the camel’s back; deals that don’t ‘pencil-out’ now as before.

          https://wolfstreet.com/2022/05/28/time-to-put-down-the-shovel-so-far-this-year-we-dropped-three-commercial-real-estate-projects-because-of-breathtaking-cost-estimates/

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Eager???? Eager on Steroids!!! If only it would start before I hit submit on this post and the power dies forever.

        And … on so many levels.

        There’s the animal torture that would end… and the paving over of the planet… and the vicious MOREONS would be terminated with one blow of the axe… of course there’s the fact that we’ve been watching BAU die for years – and we want to how the movie ends… then of course there’s Fast Eddy who is standing by as UEP completes to receive his accolades for being The Only One On The Planet to Get it Right.

        8B humans and not a single one could guess at the Elders plan… Only FE. GOAT.

        https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s–GCVUIDqM–/t_Preview/t_watermark_lock/b_rgb:191919,c_lpad,f_jpg,h_630,q_90,w_1200/v1607710601/production/designs/17229031_0.jpg

  26. Herbie Ficklestein says:

    Pot of gold
    Workers demolishing the abandoned Cressoni Theatre in Como, near Milan in Italy, stumbled across a literal pot of gold when they found a soapstone amphora of 300 coins dating back to the Roman imperial era in 2018. The coins were stacked in rolls and coin expert Maria Grazia Facchinetti said that whoever placed the jar there had “buried it in such a way that in case of danger they could go and retrieve it”. The coins date back to 474 AD.
    I was browsing on MSN and came upon this article about ancient treasures and artifacts. Here’s one interesting fact…ancient people prepped for emergencies, just like we do today. It’s definitely interesting to see how ancient people view gold as a storage of wealth
    The hoard of gold coins from the last days of the Western Roman Empire that was discovered under an old theater in Como in 2018 has proven even more exceptional than it seemed at first glance. And that’s saying a lot, because from the lidded soapstone pot to the tidy stacks of mint-condition 5th century gold coins inside of it, this find was immediately recognized as one of unprecedented historical significance.

    When the news of the spectacular find was announced in September of 2018, archaeologists had recovered the vessel and begun the process of excavating it in laboratory conditions. They had removed 27 coins from the reigns of the Emperors Honorius (r. 384–423), Valentinian III (r. 425-455), Leo I the Thracian (r. 457-474) and his short-lived co-emperor Libius Severus (r. 461-465) and estimated there were about 300 in the whole hoard. They had come across one gold ingot and two objects of undetermined identity and expected to find more in the densely packed amphora.

    Well, the painstaking process of removing one coin at a time from its tight, tidy stacks is now complete, and the final tally of gold coins is 1,000. Exactly 1,000. Someone had to have counted this out for professional purposes, like an accountant, government administrator or imperial goldsmith. The vast majority of the coins — 639 of them — were struck by mint in Mediolanum (modern-day Milan) which was then the capital of the Western Empire. They were minted between 395 and 472 A.D. and bear representations of eight emperors and four empresses. The fall of the Western Roman Empire is traditionally dated to the deposition of Emperor Romulus Augustulus in 476 A.D., and 744 of the coins were minted after 455, so literally the last two decades of the empire.

    In addition to the coins, the treasure contains the raw materials for and products of the highest quality goldsmith work. There are three large gold rings, believed to be men’s rings, one octagonal, one set with a huge cabochon garnet of superb quality, and one with an unusually intricate combination of basket weave and filigree techniques. There also are three earrings (one pair and an unfinished singleton). The production side of the business is attested to by an ingot, a gold bar, and thin gold threads. The ingot is alloyed with silver to make it more durable for jewelry and it has been cut and broken from bits of being used to make precious objects.

    All told, there are 11 pounds of gold in this hoard, an almost inconceivable amount of portable wealth at a time when the imperial economic systems were moribund. The amphora it was crammed into, on the other hand, was a modest object of everyday use. It’s a jug not dissimilar to a beer stein that was locally produced of green soapstone. It has char marks indicating it was used in cooking. Pliny referred to cooking vessels being made of soapstone in the Como area (Natural History, XXXVIL 44), and they are still manufactured there today.

    This video shows the jug and goldsmith materials, including a fantastic close-up of the garnet.

    http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/64122

    Too bad the prepper didn’t come back to retrieve the stash….same will happen to modern hoarders..
    Buried forever never to see the light of day….too 🤣

    • The timing of this gold hoard reminds me of the people today who want to go back to the gold standard. Also, the big hoard of gold that Russia seems to have. And, the many people who say, the value of gold will go to the moon: Hoard gold.

      Hoarding gold didn’t work out well for at least these ancient Romans. I expect that it won’t work out well today, either. If there is nothing to buy, in the way of food, water, and the means to keep warm, it becomes impossible to survive, with or without gold.

      • MM says:

        Who would actually “buy” gold if you want to sell it (for food)?
        Nobody because the “others” might also need to sell: price down.
        The only need could be storage as in exchange for land.
        But who would sell land if it is the only thing that provides food.
        If you do not have land now and want to buy it later with gold: good luck with that.
        You could build up an army. Well if the soldiers then can sell the gold.
        They can store it and later form a counter army, Infinite business opportunities.
        Also Gold is always something that suits with the ruling class. The peasant needs wood iron leather oxen and horses.
        If you hold on to gold, you potentially hold on to a system with a ruling class.

        Silver might be somewhere inbetween because it is just “more liquid”. But I think you can not so easy bury silver in the forrest?…

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Anyone hording gold should sell it now — take a course on how to ambush people — and use the money to buy lots of high powered weapons and ammo…

          Who needs gold when you can just take what you want

    • doomphd says:

      handling the historical objects with bare hands (no latex exam gloves), instilling their DNA on and in the ceramic, long hair with no hair net, talking with no face mask, opening the packages in a dusty, book-lined room with access to the sidewalk, needless hand and arm gestures with potential to hit the priceless objects. very unprofessional. these people are a menace to their own ancestry.

      • Herbie Ficklestein says:

        I noticed a book on display on the table…probably published about the find..

        If I can find it online may get it …real interesting discovery.
        Judging from the looks of things, Gail is correct…gold is a false security blanket.

  27. Mirror on the wall says:

    I said that this was liable to happen. FF and FG went into coalition, which established SF as the official opposition party.

    FF/G has lost control of the housing situation, in particular, with demand outstripping supply, and home prices exceed the capacity of many would-be buyers, particularly younger Irish men and women. That makes it very difficult for them to settle down, start a family, and to stabilise their existence.

    SF has now emerged as the largest party in both the north and the south of Ireland, so it looks like a border poll on Irish is likely only a matter of time.

    > Sinn Féin surge continues as it hits new record high in latest Red C poll

    The party’s latest support level of 36 per cent is more than the combined 35 per cent support for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, which is another first for Sinn Féin in a Red C poll.

    Mary Lou McDonald’s party, which has been buoyed by its recent performance in the Northern Assembly election, is up by two points to 36 per cent.

    This is more than the combined 35 per cent support for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil, which is another first for Sinn Féin in a Red C poll.

    Sinn Féin is winning the battle on the opposition side, squeezing the support of smaller parties like Labour and the Social Democrats.

    https://www.businesspost.ie/politics/sinn-fein-surge-continues-as-it-hits-new-record-high-in-red-c-poll/

  28. i1 says:

    This documentary chronicles Victorian technology as well as unintended consequences.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xyUOBM0UNQk

    Indoor plumbing increased effluent load by a factor of 20, leading to overwhelmed cess pits and the Thames becoming an open sewer.

    An analogy could be drawn to this century’s information flood, which has led to a scramble by legacy media to retain the narrative.

    Especially damaging is the economic growth story losing traction and eventually sliding downhill.

    • That is good point you make

      “Indoor plumbing increased effluent load by a factor of 20, leading to overwhelmed cess pits and the Thames becoming an open sewer.”

      I know that Cuba had (or has) some of this problem. It is a whole lot easier to add connections than to figure out what to do with the waste. I am sure that a lot of poor countries do.

      You make an interesting point about this century’s information flood leading to a scramble by legacy media to retain the narrative. I think a big part of the problem is diverging narratives: The politically correct one, versus what is actually happening and how this is playing out. I don’t think either “side” has entirely the correct story. The system tends to stay together better than most of us would ever dream possible. Hidden parts of it tend to crumble away. Eventually, there are big changes, but not necessarily the changes that any forecaster would have come up with in advance.

  29. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Russia-Sends-Record-Volumes-Of-Oil-To-India-China.html

    Russia Sends Record Volumes Of Oil To India, China

    In India, cheap Russian crude oil is attracting India’s price-sensitive buyers to the point that Russia became the fourth largest oil supplier to India in April, moving up from the 10th place in March, according to shipment-tracking data compiled by Reuters.

    China, for its part, registered in April its first annual increase in crude oil imports since January as shipments rebounded on the back of higher arrivals from Russia, analysts say.

    “Some of the interested buyers in Asia are more motivated by economics rather than taking a political stand,” Jane Xie, a senior oil analyst at Kpler in Singapore, told Bloomberg.

    • Student says:

      I would like to suggest this song for the above article.
      The lyrics should be appropriate.
      The link should go directly to the beginning of the song…

      https://youtu.be/IyXYPsDsOHY?t=91

    • Dennis L. says:

      So things are looking up in India and possibly China, decreasing cost per capita of the master resource.

      We in the US are doing our share by paying more and decreasing our per capita usage; maybe a net zero change?

      Is this decrease per capita a plus for climate ch……? Again if so, we have stepped up to the plate and can feel good about ourselves.

      What is not to like?

      Dennis L.

    • D. Stevens says:

      https://www.yahoo.com/news/flight-cancellations-pile-busy-memorial-150632790.html
      ATLANTA (AP) — Hundreds of flights worldwide were cancelled by mid-afternoon Sunday, adding to the mounting number of scrubbed flights during the busy Memorial Day holiday weekend in the U.S.

      More than 1,260 flights had been canceled as of 2:30 p.m. EDT Sunday, according to flight tracking website FlightAware. That followed more than 2,300 cancellations Friday and another 1,500 on Saturday.

      Wow. Think of all that oil saved cancelling all those flights. They should cancel more of them. I wonder if we’ll see shortages of jet fuel leaving some planes stranded where they land.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Think of all the folks who are gonna look at that and say I think I will stay home till this all returns to normal… I don’t need to be sleeping on the floor of an airport terminal waiting for a rescheduled flight

      • Given the oil situation, it is hard to know whether a fight we book now will actually operate as planned.

  30. Fast Eddy says:

    Not only has France announced that they will be applying a targeted vaccination strategy

    (https://news.yahoo.com/french-health-authority-recommends-targeted-123036471.html)

    for monkey pox, they have also started hiring employees for a “vaccination task force” (https://emploi.lejournaldugrandparis.fr/poste/task-force-vaccination-chef-de-projet-strategie-logistique-f-h/). Expect the same pattern to play out throughout Europe over the next year.

    @StormCloudsGathering
    Discussion: @OpenSourceTheNews

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha this is some good ol doom po rn…

    Some people are expecting the Monkey Pox scam to play out exactly like COVID (with lockdowns and vaccine mandates for employment and venues. This is a mistake. The enemy has adjusted their strategy. Many will be caught off guard.

    Instead of the general lockdowns and mandates we saw during covid, this time they will track and trace extensively; targeting individuals and their contacts with long quarantines and ring vaccination. The psychology used will be formidable and much more difficult to resist. Many who refused to comply in round one will fold.

    Ring vaccination means that anyone caught up in their contact tracing will be detained by specially trained teams, isolated and pressured / forced to take the vaccine. In some countries force will be used early on, but even in jurisdictions where one is not legally obligated to comply the pressure that these teams apply will be extreme. The long quarantines will add an additional incentive to give in. When the only way to avoid extended house arrest (and eventually quarantine camps) is to accept the jab, compliance can be achieved without general mandates (though we may see these in some jurisdictions).

    This targeting and isolation of individuals is nefarious for a number of reasons. While general mandates and lockdowns tend to evoke widespread outrage, they know people won’t take to the streets en masse if they aren’t personally affected at the moment. They intend to pick you off one at a time starting with the least resistant. This is why they are focused on the gay community in the opening act. The gay community is overwhelmingly left wing. Most of this demographic will accept the vaccine without hesitation as will the majority of those in their social circles. This will allow the enemy to work out the kinks in the system before addressing the trouble makers.

    Some of you might be wondering how on earth they will be able to take this clown show to such extremes. After all, Monkey Pox is very mild and only lasts a few weeks. However, the narrative is already being cultivated that there is something unusual about this particular strain. It’s “spreading” faster than previous variants, and some of the symptoms are unusual. Those of you who have been paying attention know that this is a cover for the side effects of COVID-19 vaccination. There are a multitude of auto-immune skin issues showing up that look like pox, and with immune systems decimated, the vaccinated are experiencing a resurgence of latent viruses, with shingles being one of the most common symptoms. Since diagnosis comes down to a fraudulent PCR test, all of this can be attributed to Monkey Pox.

    Here’s where it gets nasty. The long term side effects of the initial COVID jabs are just beginning to reveal themselves, and all cause mortality among the vaccinated is already becoming impossible to hide. What this means is that while COVID started as a bad flu and ended as a mild cold, Monkey Pox will made to look like it is evolving into something absolutely horrific. People will get sick and stay sick. Others will die suddenly. The fear this will generate (and the resulting mass psychosis) will make you miss the good old days of COVID.

    The food and energy shortages that are kicking off at the same time are an important part of the equation. Not only will rationing give those in power far more more leverage, malnutrition and cold will also weaken the population physically and make them more susceptible to disease. Electricity and internet blackouts will make it much harder to organize resistance and will provide cover for the worst abuses.

    For years we have warned people to get out of the cities. Now you know why. This is the final window for that move. There will be no fuel for vehicles soon (and you can only walk so far when you are starving).

    This ends in war, but in war timing is everything. Let the cities burn in the distance. Let the enemy expend their ammunition and weaken their armies. Wait for the right moment.

    @StormCloudsGathering
    Discussion: @OpenSourceTheNews

    • Xabier says:

      ‘ ‘A contact’, you say?

      How so?

      I neither attend uninhibited bathhouse orgies, nor do I go cottaging on Hampstead Heath. behind the Jack Straw’s Castle pub.

      Look elsewhere for monkey-poxed sodomites!’

      Unfortunately, I’m afraid the author probably has it spot-on: the false narrative is quite obviously being built.

      Really, we are now in one of the rings of Hell……..

      • Kowalainen says:

        The PC’s (programmable characters) is getting their firmware updates just about now. It doesn’t matter that the neocortex can reason when it’s the easily manipulated archaic regions of the brain that is programmed and “in charge” of the folly.

        A primate gonna primate.
        Now and forever.
        It is just a matter of circumstances.

      • Azure Kingfisher says:

        It reads as though your likely contacts will be those who were vaccinated. This narrative is only starting with the gay community. Presumably, they will soon say it’s spreading rapidly among everyone else. Starting with the gay community will also inflame homophobia and division among the masses. Better that we demonize and blame homosexuals than target the rulers who subjected us to this horrific injection game in the first place.

        I’m surrounded by the injected at my place of work. This includes two homosexuals in their late fifties, both of whom caught COVID-19 after being fully “vaccinated” and “boosted.” It will be a sad day if the scenario in the above comment plays out. I don’t doubt that when the time comes, these two coworkers will inject whatever they’re told to inject. One of them had been so determined to get the first COVID-19 injection available (Pfizer, in his case) that he went outside his health insurance network to jump the queue during the early days of the scamdemic.

        History is repeating itself. Will the gay community wise up to the fact that they are being targeted and exploited? Will they remember the casualties they suffered under Fauci and Big Pharma during the treatment phase of the AIDS epidemic?
        If there is a eugenics component to the global injection game, what makes the gay community think they will be preserved? They do not breed future taxpayers, soldiers, or mothers. Are they genetically fit in some other way?

        • Xabier says:

          The narrative could also be use to condemn ‘anti-vaxxers’ as homophobic, as well as anti-science, fascist, hard-Right Trumptards.

          It must be fun to be plotting all of this……

          • D. Stevens says:

            I suspect many people do not want to be associated with the homophobic, anti-science, fascist, hard-Right Trumptards anti-vaxxers. I try to keep my ‘status’ private because people are aghast and wonder what kind of monster I am for not rolling up my sleeve. They look at me with a suspicious distrusting eye from now on. It has been difficult at times to not simply comply to avoid all the relationship strain.

    • Student says:

      FE, this is very interesting. Thank you.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I am sitting here with my fists clenched trying to will Monkey Pox to destroy the vaxxed.

        I want to see then covered in those bulbous things disgusted when the look at their diseased bodies… I want to watch documentaries on colonies of them using pins to pick those pustules and lick up the juices after being told that’s more free Pfizer anti-covid vax in the puss. I imagine them fighting to get the puss like hungry dogs…

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    JUST IN — U.N. Rights Chief Michelle Bachelet Says “This Will Be a Very Difficult Year for All of Humanity”, Asks Members to “Do the Right Thing”

    https://rumble.com/v16gog7-u.n.-rights-chief-says-this-will-be-a-very-difficult-year-for-all-of-humani.html

    UEP

  33. Student says:

    Another case that can tell us much.
    This time on monkeypox.
    In quotes what is written in the article, whitout, what I recap from the article plus my considerations.

    An israeli person (I would say, almost surely, completely vaccinated for Covid-19) came back from generically an overseas trip (?) and this person then resulted positive to monkeypox.

    ”Symptoms of the disease include fever, muscle aches, swollen lymph nodes, chills, exhaustion and a chickenpox-like rash on the hands and face”.

    Which are also typical adverse events or anyway symptoms from Covid-19 vaccines.
    Therefore could it be a stimulation of underlying problems of the person through the contact of a virus, which could have not otherwise created problems?
    Something to understand better…
    All the monkeypox cases in western Countries are coming from Covid-19 vaccinated people?

    ”The virus is endemic across west and central Africa”

    But apperently nobody is talking about monkeypox in Africa at the moment or very few.
    I can immagine they might have other bigger problems, but there are also organized Countries in Africa, it’s not all a big mess..

    Anyway to conclude (always from the article):

    ”Israeli health officials have also played down the risk of the virus. In a phone briefing last Sunday, the Health Ministry’s head of public health services, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, urged calm and said the recent outbreak of the virus was not a major risk to public health.
    Monkeypox usually clears up after two to four weeks, according to the WHO.”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-reports-second-case-of-monkeypox-in-30-year-old-man/

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    A doctor says he has seen “many, many, many complications in pregnant women, in mums and in foetuses, in children, offspring, foetal death, miscarriage, death of the foetus inside the mom – what I’ve seen in the last two years is unprecedented”.

    Dr. James Thorp is an extensively published 68-year-old physician MD board-certified in obstetrics and gynecology, as well as maternal-fetal medicine, who has practiced obstetrics for over 42 years.
    Thorp told The Epoch Times that he sees 6,000–7,000 high-risk pregnant patients a year and has seen many complications among them due to the COVID vaccines.

    “I’ve seen many, many, many complications in pregnant women, in moms and in fetuses, in children, offspring,” Thorp said, “fetal death, miscarriage, death of the fetus inside the mom.
    “What I’ve seen in the last two years is unprecedented,” Thorp asserted.

    Thorp explained that although he has seen an increase in fetal death and adverse pregnancy outcomes associated with the COVID-19 vaccination, attempts to quantify this effect are hampered by the imposition of gag orders on physicians and nurses that were imposed in September 2021, as reviewed in the publication “Patient Betrayal: The Corruption of Healthcare, Informed Consent and the Physician-Patient Relationship” (pdf).

    At the beginning of January, the FDA was ordered to release its first large batch of documents related to Pfizer’s COVID jab trials, of which over 10,000 of about 450,000 pages have been made public so far.

    From the first day of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine rollout on Dec. 1 2020 through Feb. 28, 2021, 1,223 deaths and 42,086 adverse events were reported to Pfizer.

    Among the adverse events, particularly alarming are the ones that affected pregnant women. The documents say that there were 274 pregnancy adverse events, of which 75, or 27 percent were “serious.”

    “49 non-serious and 75 serious, reported clinical events, which occurred in the vaccinated mothers. Pregnancy related events reported in these cases coded to the [patients] Abortion spontaneous (25), Uterine contraction during pregnancy, Premature rupture of membranes, Abortion, Abortion missed, and Foetal death (1 each). Other clinical events which occurred in more than 5 cases coded to the [patients] Headache (33), Vaccination site pain (24), Pain in extremity and Fatigue (22 each), Myalgia and Pyrexia (16 each), Chills (13) Nausea (12), Pain (11), Arthralgia (9), Lymphadenopathy and Drug ineffective (7 each), Chest pain, Dizziness and Asthenia (6 each), Malaise and COVID-19 (5 each),” reads the previously confidential Pfizer documents (pdf).
    The CDC website recommends the COVID vaccines during pregnancy in order to “prevent severe illness and death in pregnant women.”

    The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) also “strongly recommends that pregnant individuals be vaccinated against COVID-19,” adding that pregnant women’s complete vaccination should be a “priority.”

    Thorp repeatedly emphasized that it’s not that everybody got their shots when the vaccine was first distributed.

    “They were not all administered [on Dec 1, 2020,]” Thorp said. “All the lots that were sent out were deep-frozen on-site and then they were administered slowly over that eight weeks.”
    The amount of BioNTech vaccines shipped worldwide at the time has been redacted in the aforementioned document.

    “Why did they redact that? That would have been unbelievable information that would give you the exact numerator and denominator,” Thorp said.

    The “general overview” table says that there were 29,914 “cases” related to females, 9,182 in males, and 2,990 people with “no data,” of which 19,582 are “recovered/recovering,” 11,361 “not recovered at the time of the report” and 1,223 “fatal.”

    Former Pfizer VP Had Given Warnings

    Michael Yeadon is a big pharma veteran with 32 years in the industry. He retired from Pfizer whilst occupying the most senior research position in that field.

    “On December 1, 2020, We detailed a series of mechanistic toxicology concerns which we believed were reasonable to hold, unless & until proven not to occur,” Yeadon said in a statement to The Epoch Times.

    “Among those was that adverse impacts on conception and ability to sustain a pregnancy were foreseeable.”

    “It’s important to note that none of these gene-based agents had completed what’s called ‘reproductive toxicology.’ Over a year later, this battery of tests in animals still has not been done. So there was and still is no data package supporting safety in pregnancy or prior to conception.”
    Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg and Yeadon detailed the concerns on the issue: the spike protein from the virus encoded in the vaccines was related to a minor extent to syncytin that plays a crucial part in the carrying of a baby to term.

    Yeadon had hoped, back then, that their concerns were paid attention to, since they had already seen the tragedy of thalidomide, a sedative drug that caused congenital malformation, over 60 years ago.

    “During 2021, I came across two further pieces of evidence which made it much more likely that there’d be adverse effects on pregnancy from COVID-19 ‘vaccines.’”

    “It looked like someone had tried to dismiss our concerns by testing for evidence of the particular problem we’d warned about in Dec. 2020. Unfortunately, all they did is to reinforce our concerns. We’d envisioned the risk that, in responding to the synthetic piece of virus spike protein, women’s immune systems would also make an immune response to their own placental protein,” Yeadon said. “That’s exactly what was reported in the pre-print paper.”

    “Based on this concern alone, all of these experimental products as a class should have been completely contraindicated in women younger than menopause.”

    mRNA Products Accumulate in Ovaries

    Another concern that they had not initially noticed was that “the mRNA products (Pfizer & Moderna) would accumulate in ovaries,” Yeadon stated.

    “An FOI request to the Japanese Medicines Agency revealed that product accumulation in ovaries occurred in experiments in rodents. I searched the literature based on these specific concerns and found a 2012 review, explicitly drawing attention to the evidence that the lipid nanoparticle formulations as a class do, in fact, accumulate in ovaries and may represent an unappreciated reproductive risk to humans. This was ‘a well known problem’ to experts in that field.”
    A 2012 study says that after testing with different mouse species and Wistar rats, “a high local accumulation of nanoparticles, nanocapsules and nanoemulsions in specific locations of the ovaries was found in all animals.”

    Referring to the study, Yeadon told The Epoch Times that “The authors tell untruths. They say something like ‘there was no increase in anti-syncytin-1 antibodies.’”

    “No, that’s wrong. Their data is clearly 2.5X increased after vaccination and obviously statistically significant (functional significance is looking confirmed by the miscarriage rate),” Yeadon noted.
    “What they’ve done is cute. They’ve chosen a completely arbitrary level they scribed on the figure below which they claim nothing matters. No evidence whatsoever for that claim. In fact, in the discussion, they confess we don’t know the relationship between antibodies and the impact on function.”

    The former Pfizer VP believes that the pharmaceutical industry “definitely knew,” since 2012, that the lipid nanoparticles would accumulate in the ovaries of women that took the vaccines.
    “No one in the industry or in leading media could claim ‘they didn’t know about these risks to successful pregnancy.’”

    A lipid nanoparticle is an extremely small particle, it’s a fat-soluble membrane that is the cargo of the messenger RNA, Thorp said.

    More https://archive.ph/mgVpK

    • Xabier says:

      Worth noting that in the UK the Royal College of Obstetricians is pushing the vaxxes like crazy.

      Who exactly gave them that order? Where did their consciences go? And professional ethics?

      • Kowalainen says:

        “Their morals, their code; it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be. You’ll see- I’ll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They’ll eat each other. See I’m not a monster, I’m just ahead of the curve.”
        — The Joker

      • Rodster says:

        M.O.N.E.Y. that’s where they got their marching orders from. Bill Gates and Tony Fauci have both profited quite nicely from these vaccines, especially Gates who invested in BioNTech (Pfizer).

      • Fast Eddy says:

        they have been turned into zombies.

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    A study has found young girls developed genital ulcers after receiving Pfizer’s Covid vaccine.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8929996/

    Mummy dearest … what are these festering sores on me snatch.. they came after the vaccine you made me take… they hurt!

    Mummy: that’s not caused by the vaccine – it’s Safe… and EFFECTIVE. Have you been out back of the dumpst4er with that filthy meth head boy again????

    • Xabier says:

      I’ve heard of persistent mouth ulcers, too, in the newly boostered. Lovely!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Imagine vaginal ulcers + mouth ulcers + monkey pox pustules….

        Christ … that would eliminate thoughts of cannibalism and rape….

  36. Student says:

    I received some news from a friend of mine.

    She is 44 and she had Covid together with her son (12).
    Both not vaccinated.
    First it was her son to have Covid.
    Although everyone of her friends told her not to stay in direct contact of her son, she wanted to cure him anyway in the same bedroom (she is very anxious).
    Addtionally everyone of her friends told her to take vitamin C, vitamin D and Zinc, but she didn’t take it.
    Her son was treated with antibiotics, anty-infiammatory, vitamins and after a week was well.
    She had first symptoms of the disease after a week and she started the same treatment.
    After a couple of days of treatment the fever was away and she had only hard cough and fatigue.
    One night – as she is single and she suffers of panic attacks – she went to the hospital because she had the impression not to breathe.
    At the hospitals all the nurses and doctors insulted her because she was not vaccinated.
    After the insult scene (she said it was very long), she was admitted to the Covid depatment and she discovered that among 21 people, 20 were complete vaccinated and she was the only one not vaccinated.
    The day after she had a cat scan and her lungs were ok.
    Doctors said to go on with anti-infiammatory treatment and the day after she was discharged from the hospital.
    She is recovering at home now and she is feeling better.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Lucky her – she survived the hospital.

      Any comment on this situation norm? 20 of 21 vaxxed…

      mike?

      • Xabier says:

        Poor old Norman only likes to repeat his long-established ‘End of More’ cliches, thereby posing as a sage and ‘wordsmith’, and will never address topics requiring any original thought.

        • Nick99 says:

          Norm on Twatter, still humble-bragging about his genetic line:

          I have 17 living descendants in various age brackets. all but the youngest read my online ramblings, none, as far as I know take the slightest notice of my doom mongering—good or bad idea?–I have no idea

          you certainly can’t intervene

          • Nick99 says:

            Interesting response to Norm concerning my favorite subject, human overpopulation:

            Paul and Ann Ehrlich’s daughter, Lisa, had kids and subsequent grandkids. She seems to enjoy needling her parents about the whole ecology thing in both thought and deed.

            From 2018 Amazon review for her dad’s sleep-apnea book: “I have made sure my three daughters have this book — especially the two with small children!”

            You’re certainly not the only one ignored, Norman. [End quote]

            • thank you for having the good grace to point that out Nick.

              it amuses me sometimes, when I read some commenters on OFW, who have so little knowledge of families and kids–and ongoing generations, who think that i should be able to influence the doings of offspring, or that they might take the slightest notice of me on any subject other than reading my will.

              though what ‘humble bragging’ is supposed to mean i have no idea

              17 living descendants is merely a statement of fact—perhaps you see it otherwise. i was only involved in producing the first 3

              your problem

          • Fast Eddy says:

            norm is a great great great great great grand father… he was born in 1867…. they say with age comes wisdom… not always…. then you throw 5 shots of Pfizer and look at the mess

        • i make no claim to great skill in my writing, and criticism is always more than welcome—i like to think i learn from it.
          I write down what seems obvious to me at the time.

          however, as you bring up my book—good or bad, and bearing in mind it was published in 2013, judge where we are nearly 10 years later, and the current prospects for humankind:

          a–the cover:
          a tower block, with its lights dimming out, top to bottom. Replaced by a lighted candle.

          b–page one:
          >>>>Energy is our capital, and we are consuming more than we produce, whether as food or fuel. That means humanity has maxed out the credit card of our environment.<<<<

          No need to buy the book (though don't let me stop you). The cover and page one are sufficient summary.
          Tell me where we stand, right now, relative to what i wrote 10 years ago. I can't wait.

          feel free to point out where i went wrong, i'm sure i can learn from your intellectual input.
          Living near Cambridge—some stray brain cells must be floating free somewhere.

          *********
          But do try to stop parroting your mentor–you're sounding like an echo chamber. You haven't quite reached his silliness level yet–hard to beat.

          *********

          As to original thinking, and products of my word smithy, i think i can do better than repeating the cliches of 'millions of dead and maimed'—or—doctors are stalking your g-grankids–or—Bill Gates is tracking you from his 5g masts.

          Or was that all your original thinking Xabier? And i was required the believe it?

          • Xabier says:

            Norman

            We all need some delusions to keep us going, so I do apologise for touching on the literary aspirations so dear to your vanity.

            But, as a point of fact, it is indisputable that, globally, hundreds of thousands – and probably 1-2 million, have died so far from these novel genetic injectables – and many millions have been injured. .

            For example, just over 4,000 cases among under-18’s in the UK reported to the MHRA, and with an under-reporting factor of 10-40, that is at least 40,000 seriously injured in only a year. A factor of 10 is very conservative.

            Is that not a crime of horrifying magnitude and cynicism?

            The government still refuses to allow the number of deaths in his age group get into the public domain – I wonder why?

            Moreover you are not expected to ‘believe ‘ these assertions, but have been directed to reliable sources by commenters here: you choose to ignore them.

            And yes, they are coming for those great-grandchildren, and pretty soon at that.

            You might look at the article Jessica Rose wrote on Substack about the death of a little boy of seven yrs recently, and perhaps feel some shame at your continued complacency and ignorance while this insane outrage continues.

            • vanity???

              Quote from above–
              “i make no claim to great skill in my writing, and criticism is always more than welcome—i like to think i learn from it.
              I write down what seems obvious to me at the time.”

            • Fast Eddy says:

              After reading what Gail writes on the subject of course…

              norm = regurgitator

            • but without faux-swearwords, chalk or caps

              ever tried that writing form eddy?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I have concluded it is arguing with zombies. Much worse than arguing with a fool

        • Fast Eddy says:

          norm is like a local sportsman who never made it pass the local football squad who sits in the pub half pissed and blabbering as people pretend to listen … about the goal he scored in 1948… and how he was passed over for the big leagues because none of the managers knows true talent….

          And people pretend to listen… the more polite people who have not heard it all before humour norm by complimenting on his amazing talent…

          And when norm gets so pissed he begins to offend the customers … Fast Eddy hauls him off his stool … and throws him out the back door and tells him his blow up doll has been calling and she wants him home this minute.

    • Xabier says:

      Thank you for such an interesting anecdote, Student,

      I see the Hippocratic Oath now includes abusing the sick: I really can find no words for my disgust.

      In the 1940’s, the Germans employed doctors to revive hanged prisoners, putting them through the ordeal several times before allowing them to expire.

      We seem to be heading back to similar medical barbarism.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I really enjoy these anecdotes from OFW members who are interacting with these suffering CovIDIOTS… there is something more personal when someone we know recounts what they are seeing and hearing.

        We need much more of this. Please tell us what the people around you are experiencing… it’s like some kinda Black Gossip… so much better than the standard worthless gossip…

        Feed the Beast!

        I’d feed it but I have not been out since last Wednesday so I have not encountered any diseased CovIDIOTS…

      • Student says:

        Your are welcome.
        It is a true story.
        I talked again with her yesterday.
        When I have some other direct stories double checked with other people, I report.
        Ciao!

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    The life insurance claims huge surge in non-viral illness deaths that coincided with the mass public program. As more claims are filed we should see the the disastrous casualties from employer mandates on the workforce. Expect benefit costs to go up as V-death claims closed

    https://t.me/DowdEdward/483

    What can be causing this mike norm?

    Prominent venture capital firms are telling their portfolio companies to start cutting costs and looking for ways to cushion their cash position.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/28/start-up-investors-issue-warnings-as-boom-times-unambiguously-over.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.PostToTwitter

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    BTW – a mindfulness teacher friend was discussing stress with us over a drink recently…. I said I have almost 0 stress… and M Fast quickly agreed saying ‘HE (he?) doesn’t give a f789 about anything’…. which is true …

    I wanted to say that the world is ending so why sweat anything..since we’ll all soon be dead hahaha. just go with the flow and keep the popcorn handy… but if I said that they’d think I was crazy … so I don’t say anything

    The most stressful thing I have to deal with is when playing ice hockey some of the players coast around and therefore are able to take multi minute shifts on the ice without changing… I suspect they could play the full hour based on how hard they are trying (I certainly could). If someone is doing that I will hint that the average shift of an NHL player is 40 seconds or so — cuz they are going full blast the entire time… are we in better shape that an NHL player ….is Lance Armstrong feeding us The Cocktail?…. they sometimes get it… if they don’t that’s quite stressful… how to tell them to put in more effort otherwise get the f789 off the ice without offending???

    One way to eliminate the minimal stress that I do have is to mass delete on OFW…. it’s cathartic… if one targets the right people…

    • Tsubion says:

      If you stop caring about anything… stress goes to zero.

      Got it.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Well.. it’s also good to be debt free and have enough discretionary income to be able go to the VIP room on a regular basis.

        Also good not to shove garbage down the maw and maintain health… I imagine it’s quite stressful to a useless fat f789 who lies on the sofa watching reality teee veee… feeding that diabetes habit

        Anyone in the OFW audience with the Big D? I imagine that would make one feel like utter shit … all the time…

        • Kowalainen says:

          I can attest to that.

          Insulin levels barely measurable, so was the cholesterol levels the last time I did a health checkup.

          It is called insulin sensitivity. Shove some sugar in the cookie hole and the insulin receptors go wide open from just a wee bit of insulin. As for cholesterol, well, the body manufactures it’s own supply. No need to stuff the maw with eggs, deceased animals and lard I guess.

          Which primate apart from the rapacious (un)kind consume meat on a daily basis? I’ll tell you: There isn’t one. Well; except for the crème de la crème of primatery. Oh yes indeed. The rapacious variant.

          MOAR! 🐷
          MEAT! 🍖

          Whenever there is a large actuation (output) in any negative feedback control system, such a the body’s self-regulating biochemistry, assume with certainty there is a large error somewhere causing the system (body) to produce various forms of hormones to compensate for the stress from the insatiable desires of a primates egotistical fantasies and disease from blatant gluttony and a poor animal products based diet.

          But hey, self entitled rapacious primates gonna primate. Cuz, you know, what will the herd do to my prestiges and statuses if I’m caught out stuffing the noisy input orifice with a plant based diet? Just forget about turning the cranks to shave off half an Asian in excessive protoplasm, cuz lazy, self entitled, and, yep, prestiges and statuses.

          TRYHARD PROJECTING MALES! 👨
          SELF ENTITLED MOARon FEMALES! 👩
          UNITE IN ENVY! 🤑
          VOTE FOR PROSPERITY! 🗳
          BE ENTITLED TO MOAR! 🐖 🍖 🚘 🚗 🏠 🏡 🛩 📺
          BREED! 👶 👶 👶 👶 👶 👶
          YOLO! 🥳🥳👯‍♀️👯‍♀️🍾🎉🎈
          GGWP! 💸 🤒 ☠️ ⚰️ 🪦

          Did someone mention feeling worry for their progeny given the predicament? No? For sure they must be first in line to cut the crap from their lives. Surely? Yes?

          OF COURSE NOT!
          ON THE CONTRARY!

          They’re the most irresponsible of the lot.

          Subject to all sorts of jungian “shadow” collective unconscious projections. That’s why they are so “successful” being able to:

          BREED! 👶 👶 👶 👶 👶 👶

          and shove their offspring in harms way

          🤕☠️⚰️

          just like any other low IQ species such as cockroaches and rabbits. No hate on our lesser brethren in the animal kingdom though. Their capacity for critical thought is limited by cranial capacity.

          Or simply put. Something isn’t quite aligned between the neocortex and archaic, primate, regions of the brain in most of hoomans. With other words:

          MAX INDEBTED QUADRUPLE SIZED QUARTERWITS!

          Oh, la, la, la.
          What could possibly go wr…?

          Just get ‘em “boosted”. 💉 💉💉💉💉
          (Is it five now?)

          Never mind.
          (No hate, just dark comedy)
          🤣👍👍

          • Fast Eddy says:

            yes of course — not breeding is another critical component of abating stress.

            Just look at parents before and after photos — when they breed they begin to look haggard… screaming vermin — sleepless nights — years of being trapped with the little f789ers and never getting a moment of peace…

            And then there are all the problems that arise during early teens — they want be be cool so they don’t listen to parents… and from 13 on they are constantly behind the dumpsters doing who the hell knows what … you pretty much need to put them on the Pill by 11 (just to be safe)….

            Then there are the many thousands you have to waste feeding clothing and schooling them (and still they don’t listen!) — driving them sports and other activities…

            Having to make friends with people you would avoid just because their kid is on the same team.

            What else – oh ya and when they leave to maybe go to uni that’s more money — and odds are you will barely see them again once they do leave cuz they are bizzzzy… then when you end up in the old age home they never visit complaining about the smell of stale piss and shit… (‘the kids can’t stand it.. otherwise we’d come more’)

            On the other hand dogs appreciate you … they are loving and fun to be with…. if you are kind to them they will be the best friend you could ever hope for….

            How about that dog who’s owner collapsed and died because of the Vax during a hike…. and he stayed with him for days till someone found them. If he had a kid the kid would have no interest in hiking and would instead stay home gaming .. and if dad died while hiking he’d primarily be concerned about how much $$$ he’s gonna get cuz he wants to buy a new car.

            Children > ultra high stress

            Dogs > huge stress reliever

            • Kowalainen says:

              “Just look at parents before and after photos — when they breed they begin to look haggard…”

              True that. 10 year younger MOARons and tryhards looking 10 years older than me.

              “then when you end up in the old age home they never visit complaining about the smell of stale piss and shit…”

              Mental illness such as personality disorders is an inherited trait.

              “Children > ultra high stress”

              Only in the “hands” of halfwitted breeders and a profoundly sick society. Ohh, look at me, me, me, I’m doing everything “right” being a “virtuous” tryhard/MOARon.

              “Dogs > huge stress reliever”

              Unfortunately they die after about a decade. I’m too mellow for inevitable grief.

  39. Hideaway says:

    Such a shame that even the Indian Space Agency satellites still pick up the pollution we left behind on the moon…
    https://tekdeeps.com/53-years-later-an-indian-probe-photographs-the-apollo-sites-on-the-moon/

    I wonder how it all got there, aliens seems the most likely culprits, unless we actually went to the moon all those years ago….

    • Tsubion says:

      Well… technically… Nasa could’ve just dumped some gear on the moon. No need for astronauts playing golf, driving dune buggies, and taking selfies.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I suppose it did not occur to you that since the last fake moon trip — various programs have been created e.g. Photo Shop … that would easily allow them to fake these photos…

      Keep in mind they faked all the photos of the moon landing to begin with … 6 top pro photographers in American Moon state without a doubt all the photos were shot in a studio…

      So…. Duh….

      • Foolish Fitz says:

        Eddy, if they used photo shop don’t you think they might have put all the shadows on the same side?

        One object appears to have its shadow on the opposite side to all other objects.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          If you mean the photos of the moon landing no they did not photo shop them because there are was no photo shop – they shot them in a studio with both back and front lighting.

          The photos depicting stuff left behind are recent so are photo shopped…

          BTW – Hubble surely could take lots and lots of good photos of moon debris… but their ain’t any… and why draw attention because no doubt an expert would become aware of this and might expose that the photos have been faked…. let sleeping dogs lie

          • CTG says:

            This is the link to the photo shot by the Indian Space Agency

            https://www.journaldugeek.com/content/uploads/2022/02/dnqmkg7.jpeg

            Foolish Fitz said the shows of the bumps (hillocks?) on the moon has shadows on the left side of the bump. The lunar lander has the shadow on the right.

            Another observation – the shadow of the lander is very long. It has to be tall to have a long shadow. The hillocks that has the little black shadow…

            1. They are small hillocks with small short shadows but are the resolution so high that we can see rocks on the moon surface?

            2. The hillocks are really hillocks or craters or rocks and I am pretty sure from the picture, the lander must be at least a few kilometers tall to have that kind of long shadow

            3. The lander and the entire photo is fake.

            5. The Matrix is breaking. This is an image as fake as it can get

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    1. We’re supposed to believe the mother got in contact with the daughter in the middle of a mass shooting and received an update from her daughter that a mass shooting was unfolding or that the daughter was about to go missing?

    2. Mother calls her own daughter “the daughter”

    3. Mother doesn’t even know what grade her own daughter is in.

    https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=S74NGBOM594N

    hahahahaha… we don’t know the grade but we know the age ….. hahahaha WTF is going on here??????

    • Tsubion says:

      Most of these shootings are allowed to happen. That much is true. Kids in American highschools are screened and profiled by school psychology professional and assistants. There’s probably one problem kid like this in every American highschool. Their condition is known probably from age fourteen onwards so professionals working with that teenager are aware of and monitoring the mental health of that teenager for many years. Law enforcement is probably aware of these issues to. But nothing is done. These problem kids are practically groomed for the role of mass shooter. It would be relatively easy to prevent these shootings with profiling and medical treatment of the very small number of extreme cases.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Send an army of the zombies to the Fed?

      • D. Stevens says:

        Could simply be blowback from 2+ years of covid policies? Uvalde and Buffalo shooters both recently turned 18 and likely spent most of their high school years wearing masks, having their social outlets cancelled ‘out of an abundance of caution,’ and taking remote classes. Sounds like a recipe for making serial killers and mass shooters.

  41. Mirror on the wall says:

    This guy is quite sober and watchable. The Western MSM has admitted that UKR is taking losses – what is up with that? Can NATO reconstitute UKR forces? Will NATO ‘wonderweapons’ turn the tide? Is Russia achieving or failing in its stated objectives? What is the situation in UKR and what happens next?

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      good stuff.

      a turning point may have been when the mighty heroes (sarc!) of the Azov NATZEEE battalion flat out surrendered to the Russians after Mariupol was entirely emancipated by those Russian forces.

      also, the EU Globalist so-called leaders are now definitely realizing that there will be massive economic damage to the EU if they ban Russian oil and gas.

      the MSM propaganda machine is easing into the reality of a certain Russian victory by making small steps of reporting little bits and pieces of Russian successes.

      this guy seems to be saying that the NATZO weapons are not making any difference.

      I think Russia is almost in control of the eastern parts of Ukraine that it wants, and much of the south coastal area.

      I would guess that they will continue west along those south coastal areas until they have control of the entire former Ukrainian coast of the Black Sea.

      this would be a resounding defeat of NATZO, and another step towards the Great Russian Reset.

      fun times!

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The Great Ukrainian Video War Game continues!

        The audience screams ‘Vlad – just reduce the gas supply by 10% and make them squeal would you!’ Vlad can’t hear them

    • CTG says:

      FE, it is a simulation. The goal of the simulation is to push the sims (the subjects) to the corner and see what happens and what will they do.

      From the WEF giving out information on microchips to Sri Lanka (anyone verify why without fuel or food, Sri Lanka will be wiped out already), “warless” Ukraine and the toxis Fukushima that never was.

      It is all a game.. life is an illusion but the sims must not know. If they know, then things will not work. Check out the book by Donald Hoffman – The Case Against Reality.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        “… life is an illusion but the sims must not know.”

        okay, so you are a sim, but you “know”?

        and a sim writes a book letting us “know”?

        I guess in this simulation, they push the sims and see how many contradictions appear.

        anyway, one of my big questions is how long will this simulation last?

        until 2030?

        I hope so, and I hope the simulated bAU in simulated IC lasts for my personal sim.

        also, since the 8 billion of us are sims, then there shouldn’t be anything inappropriate about full blown Schadenfreude as the sims in the Periphery descend into horrrible dire poverty, as we sims in the Core are seeing happening to those sims in Lebanon Yemen etc.

        I’m beginning to like this simulation theeeeeory.

        freakin simulated bAU tonight, baby!

        • CTG says:

          Sim are subjects of the simulation. You simulate something to see the end result like “what if Donald Trimp wins 2029 election without all the cheating?”. Those who are aware are enlightened. They, like FE, don’t act like sims anymore. They record what the sums are doing. Perhaps FE have to give a report to the Creator on what really happened in the simulation..

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I suspect FE is running the simulation … we know HE is not a person — HE just showed up in my mind less than a decade ago….. the question is where did HE come from though … this aligns with the question of if there is a God and he made the universe — where did he come from?

            These questions are one and the same. Obviously. Or at least possibly.

            If HE is that…then what am I? And when do I start to realize some benefits?

            How about those crisis actors pretending to be the parents of the same kid hahaha…. you gotta wonder if even THAT was done on purpose … to run the MOREONS around in circles…

            Had to be …

    • Eddy, Eddy, Eddy…get with the program..there is a very simple reason that the little girl in question has two “fathers”..obviously the emotional one interviewed by the sensitive Anderson Cooper is trans (XX chromosomes) formerly having reproductive features necessary for the birth of the poor victim. Obviously the former couple is no longer together due to social pressures/community non-acceptance and succumbing to intolerance have attempted to fit within the intolerant society by associated themselves with “beards” (female appearing “spouses” that give appearance of heteronormative relationships) thus the two sets of pictures with seemingling typical heterosexual couples as parents of the little victim. She was so lucky to have not just one set of parents but two. No simulation required, just openness of mind to the “true” world around us..lol

      • Fast Eddy says:

        norm who speaks mockingly of crisis actors…. as if they do not exist…

        Is strangely silent on this….

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    Hmmm… they don’t name the doctor… I call fake on this….

    Purpose – see – this doctor believes so deeply in the injections he’s willing to inject kids even though it’s not improved.

    Interpretation – wow – I better get my kid injected when this is approved

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    And just when you thought this was as insane as it could get:

    This is probably the worst thing I have seen so far.

    https://jessicar.substack.com/p/this-is-probably-the-worst-thing

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff78266a4-ae9e-4610-b3de-312d25eda99e_1400x1122.png

    Reminds me of Madoff … if you have a connection to this monster … you can get your kid in ahead of everyone else…

    hahahahahaahaha fantastic!

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    More nonsense – smart phones obsolete https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/36088

    So how do you look at social media feeds if the chip is in your body — where is the battery? — how do you type?

    This is all just a heap of techno fantasy bullshit.

    We are out of oil — we are headed back to the stone age…. but the Elders want us to believe our techno fantasy will continue.

    Recall they apparently opened an taxi terminal for EV small helicopter aircraft in the UK… but there are no viable EV taxis in production … so why would you open a terminal? The thing is … there is no terminal … it’s all fake…

    Just like there were terrorist types at the Wellington protests… just like the fighter pilot hero in Ukraine exists only in a video game… just like dead people were filmed coming back to life in Ukraine….

    It is impossible to know what is real and what is fake — that is the Matrix… even if you are aware that the MSM is creating a fake world… it’s not possible to know what is real and fake…

    Up until Moon Doggie then American Moon I assumed we had been to the moon….

    • ivanislav says:

      It will only be kulmthestatusquo and his Anglo 1% that survive 😂 (Please don’t burst his bubble.)

    • Kowalainen says:

      Perhaps “we” have been to the moon, just not for the past 10.000+ years. Who knows for how long the wheel of time have spun the rapacious primate to its current incarnation?

      Here’s the story: Deplete a “planet”, then do some fancy dimensionality shifts and continue the operation in another slice of the dimensionless continuum. Ad infinitum. Occasionally going to the moon is tractable due to some random events and discoveries. A bit of faux “tourism” never hurts at times when stuff doesn’t quite pan out.

      Clearly some funky stuff is going on beyond the 3’rd dimension.
      Quantum mechanics and gravity anyone? How about the fields of electromagnetism? Now that’s curious. For some weird reason everything seem to be in constant flux. Which sort of hints at a dimensionality slicing through a hyper-dimensional continuum.

      Be useful, “die”, get respawned into 3D. Repeat.
      Continue to hack away at the dumb brethren while getting shiet done.
      Ok; fair enough as long as there is no crazy amount of suffering involved.

      Who knows what “mileage” you carry FE?
      The “elder” incarnates cringe at existence as an instance of HSS.
      🤢🤮

      Just about anything is possible in the mystery of it all.
      Good thing we’re born “blank” likely with the processing pipelines intact.
      Who knows what horrors we might have gone through and perpetrated.

      Too surreal? Ok.

      /Karma off

      🤣👍👍

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Who knows what “mileage” you carry FE?

        FE is billions of years in the making….

        • Kowalainen says:

          Or perhaps just a couple of hundred years of clever genetic engineering suited for the material/chemistry compositions of earth?

          You see, with enough advanced tech “they” can just (re)program every single specimen to believe just about anything.

          Suppose you’d like to move an ant hive from one location to the next. Do you think the ants would understand the concept of location, perhaps they’d just be stressed for a little while and then go on with the usual “anty” stuff not understanding anything about what just happened and have zero shits to give about it?

          Same principle different species doing the meddling. You would sense nothing out of the ordinary while being dropped in a completely different situation.

          Time and 3D slices through hyper dimensional dynamics/physics theory in an dimensionless continuum where everything is possible share similarities.

          /Speculation off

          🤔

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Are you saying that I am dispensable and Fast Eddy would just move on to another host if something should happen to me?

            I feel so used… I type away on behalf of FE for hours each day … I get nothing in return … I feel as if FE is not appreciating my contribution …..

            • Kowalainen says:

              “Stories from the primate matrix – all retch and no vomit”
              — Narrated by Fast Eddy —

              Nobody knows what Ultimate Reality is. The rapacious primates petty “simulation” “game” itself could be played by an even more intelligent entity.

              I mean FFS, after 200k+ years of humanoid escapades we just recently discovered the freaking steam engine and 4k years ago built the goddamned pyramids? Just like that? Mega structures “popping” into existence out of nowhere? The probability of that being? I’ll tell you.

              It’s fscking infinitesimal. Zero for all practical intents and purposes.

              The probability of you being “placed” here is virtually certain. A few “bugs” and hints here and there for you to “get” it. Being an observant critique implies a compromised connection between the neocortex and archaic regions of the brain.

              You know; trial and error. Mostly error. Such is the game of life. Big guys, small guys, hive minds. Solipsist societies, herd mentality societies, both. Just another data set to process when extending the scope of discovery within a ultra complex dynamical physics/societal system (simulation?).

              But hey, let’s make it simple and just call it “The Universe”. Because, you see, the rabbit hole extends infinitely in all directions. Yes, ever wondered who’s simulating the simulators, etc., ad infinitum and perpetuity.

              Hoomans are only capable of trivially refining existing discoveries. A primate species spend way too much time on maintaining its egotistical fantasies instead of banging out implements from decades of intense thought.

              And now? A bunch of loonies embark on an eugenics program that for all intents and purposes is one gigantic boondoggle. Just trying to save their own rear ends so that their particular hallucinated primate WtP fantasies can prevail.

              🤣👍👍

              Look; nobody knows what actually went into those vials. Well, perhaps only a few and they’re likely not Fausti or the CEO of Pfizer. They’re just the usual embodiments of an egotistical WtP fantasy.

              Now think about how cognitively challenged does one have to be flying to a climate conference in a private jet? Or preach the “End of MOAR” while blowing through finite resources, and, get this, worry about the progeny?

              Ask yourself if that level of ignorance compute for you? Let me give you another example of uncomputable chain of thought.

              Even when you word smith it out in perfect detail it is still uncomputable by tryhards and MOARons. Unthinkable thoughts. Instead they are stuck plagiarizing, regurgitating old and trivial meanderings, while they embody the very essence of blatant and boring rapacious primate psychology.

              Too bad about the suffering of sapient and sentient embodiments though. The suck is real irregardless of it being a simulation or not.

              But hey:

              YOLO!
              MOAR!
              BREED!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I mean FFS, after 200k+ years of humanoid escapades we just recently discovered the freaking steam engine

              True – humans were aware of oil coal etc long before the steam engine was invented — yet it did not occur to them to leverage the energy in these fuels to do much of anything.

            • do try to rein in your ignorance eddy–it’s embarrassing to watch in action–though fascinating in a perverse way.

              it wasn’t coal-use that kicked off the industrial revolution and the steam engine

              it was the availability of cheap iron.

              without cheap iron, you can make nothing in quantity. you cannot lever energy out of coal without it.

              not even inflatable dolls–though the availability of iron doesn’t affect the necessary wind to blow them up. (some of your skills are indispensable)

              here’s a little something i plagiarised a few years ago.

              https://extranewsfeed.com/the-day-that-made-your-life-possible-42f6a56c0705

              not that i expect you to understand it–but it might help one or two others to see that your tailor is selling you clothes made out of fresh air.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Who’s talking about the industrial revolution?

            • i was at least correct in knowing you would have not the slightest idea what i was talking about

              stick to inflatables eddy

              they require no intellectual feedback

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Stick to boosters norm… and injecting your grand kids…

            • what?

              No blowup dolls today eddy?

              are you running out of comedic material?

              or chalk?

              Or walls?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I wonder if a toddler could possibly experience their tiny uterus dropping out of its body onto the floor because grandpa drove her to the clinic to get injected…

              Imagine a child saying to grandpa when the pustules appear — grandpa — why is this happening to me… what did you do to me?

              I didn’t do anything responds Grandpa – I was just trying to prevent you from infecting me with the Vid because I am at risk of dying from the Vid and you need to sacrifice your life so I can live a few more months.

              But grandpa the injection doesn’t stop the transmission of the Vid.

              Sure it does. Stop saying that .. Grandpa slaps her across the face — the pustules explode and puss flies everywhere…

              Grandpa screams at the child — you filthy diseased rodent get away from me!!! Rancid beast!! As Grandpa wipes the puss off of his face and hands…

              Grandpa picks up the phone and dials the clinic – URGENT – I need a Pox Vax NOW… and I want that 6th Covid shot too… I don’t care if I just had the fifth I want MORE… I want more… and did you know we’re running out of cheap oil … huh??? — I said we are running out of cheap oil! — uh.. and?

              Child services then arrives and takes the girl away … Grandpa is cuffed and put into a straight jacket and taken into custody — psychiatric evaluation pending.

              https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/892×501/s3/2019-04/6412EB22-82E4-4BA7-81E0-80F8F05223EB.jpg

            • eddy

              you constantly reinforce my certainty that true infinity is to be found in the depths of your crude thought processes.

              is there no combination of words that you will not use, in order to gain attention?

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I never said Grandpa was you did I… a bit paranoid… cuz maybe you did drive the toddler to the clinic for the injection????

              Did you do that norm? Are you .. Grandpa????

              You just aren’t that sharp norm – you could never twist Fast Eddy around like HE’s just done to you … you do not have the Horse Power… all you can do is regurgitate… and inject … and drive infants to the clinic for the injections falsely believing that you are extending your own life…

              If so that is a sad life… who would sacrifice a child for a few months of geriatric existence…

              Do you steal her diapers and staple them together into geriatric size — how low.. can norm go…

              How low – Can norm Go.

              That’s a catchy slogan huh…

            • you really cannot sling words together eddy (incidentally–what was/is your original trade–you’ve never divulged it)

              stick to chalk and the skoolyard wall

              at least they will be washed away eventually

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Fast Eddy has never had what one might call a real job… before this Messiah gig… why would HE?

    • I agree. We now read a whole lot of feel-good nonsense.

      • Kim says:

        We also get a pretty regular diet of “feel bad” nonsense.

        • For example, its all our fault that climate change is happening.

          • well if climate change hasn’t been caused by humankind, what did cause it?

            yes—every 20k years or so we get an ice age with a warm period in between, but that’s on a different timescale altogether

            as it is, records exist to show 1 degree C in temperature rise over the last 300 years–(4 deg in the Arctic), a sea level rise of 6 – 8” since the 1880s, and the 4 hottest decades on record have been the last 4.
            The heat in the Arctic has destabilised the jetstream.
            I could go on–but this list is there for anyone wishing to research the information.

            • Energy dissipation. It is the role of dissipative structures to dissipate energy. Humans are dissipative structures; they have no choice but to dissipate energy.

              When humans are gone, they will be replaced by other creatures and structures that those creatures create that dissipate energy. The general movement will be toward more and more energy intensity, as it has been since the beginning of the universe. See Eric Chaisson, Cosmic Evolution: The Rise of Complexity in Nature, Harvard University Press, 2001. This is a slide I made, using one of his charts:

              https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/13-chaisson-trend-is-toward-more-complex-energy-intense-form.png

              We cannot stand in the way of energy dissipation, saying it is “wrong.” It is simply the way the self-organizing system that we are part of works. Finite systems do not behave in the stable manner imagined by many people today. Finite systems are always “evolving,” and all parts of the system are adapting to those changes. It is simply the way the system was designed to operate.

              There seems to always be plenty of outside energy to keep the overall system operating, because of a Higher Power somehow making creation be a continuous process. The Universe is constantly expanding, because of the energy provided, somehow, which I will call, by a Higher Power that is beyond our understanding.

            • true, all life forms are dissipative structures. Humankind is just one of them.

              I eat, move, and create heat which dissipates from me and is lost. I do that for my life-time. A tree does it for its life-time. A whale does it for its life-time. We are all dissipative structures.

              the Earth is 4bn years old–give or take.

              for 2bn years or so, there have been life forms living on it, we don’t know how they got started (pan-spermia?)
              They drew their energy from a sole source–the sun.
              without exception they have lived, dissipated (sun) energy as part of that living, and died. There is no right or wrong about energy dissipation, anymore than there is a right or wrong about gravity.

              For virtually all of that 2bn years, each life form decomposed where it fell—animal or plant life.
              But there was not enough ‘dissipation’ to affect climate of the earth itself.

              Not all of that body energy was dissipated, part of it was buried where it died. Earth movements covered it. Multiply this by hundreds of millions of years, and quadrillions of life forms and you have a colossal body of latent energy lying in the ground.

              It became coal oil or gas. Other than the sun itself, they are our sole energy source.

              Then maybe a million or two years ago, a super smart one of us learned to control fire. That made us unique in Earth history.

              From that it was a direct line to lighting a fire under a steam engine.
              The more fires we lit, the more steam engines we could drive, and the more latent energy we could rip out of the planet.

              Which we duly did. It proved our prosperity.

              We released several hundred million years of latent (undissipated) heat in a single burst of flame over just 3 centuries—a blink of an eye in geological time.

              That heat output is now clearly on record. We have altered the planet to our own ends. Our heat dissipation happened, but in a single burst of heat and light.

              It was that heat burst that overheated the planet we are now living on, and which is destroying us.

              All this does not preclude a ‘higher power’–that is just a matter of personal choice. But neither does that belief alter the chain of events that brought us to where we are right now.

            • I think that some of the energy dissipation has affected climate all along. In fact, this energy dissipation has kept the Earth from falling back into an ice age. It is just a myth that we like to believe that it is only current activities of humans affected climate.

              Our big problem now is that the big burst of energy that has supported the growth of world population is coming to an end. The political folks in power would like us to think that we are voluntarily reducing our fossil fuel energy when, in fact, it is becoming unavailable to us. The strange models that have been put together about what “might” happen if we could burn all of they fossil fuels that we can’t really get out mostly are a way of scaring us into thinking that we can somehow move away from fossil fuels.

            • I think we are both falling back on a different take on reality.

              In terms of numbers, i dont think we could have influenced climate, because we were far outnumbered by the collective volumes of other animal life of comparable size until around the 15th-17th c. The world sustained itself in balance by natural forces.

              The fires of hunter gatherers were far outweighed by natural heat sources of volcanoes, forest fires and so on. In fact, volcanic action is known to have suppressed human populations on numerous occasions.

              You are quite correct in saying all that fuels in the ground are unlikely to be used. My line i think diverges from yours, in that the fuels themselves will not be usable, because they will not provide energy in sufficient surplus to allow profligate use in the ways we did in the 2nd half of the 20th c.

              Humankind could not now oppose each other with armies of millions on battlefields as they did in the 1940s.
              Just not enough energy remaining in the system.

              As to the ice age ‘period’, i think that is now accepted as being part of the Milankovich cycle, which functions over tens of thousands of years—much longer than meaningful human activity

              https://climate.nasa.gov/ask-nasa-climate/2949/why-milankovitch-orbital-cycles-cant-explain-earths-current-warming/

            • Look at this study, from the University of Wisconsin, Madison:

              https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180906141507.htm

              Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but profoundly changed Earth’s climate
              Date: September 6, 2018

              A study published in the journal Scientific Reports provides new evidence that ancient farming practices led to a rise in the atmospheric emission of the heat-trapping gases carbon dioxide and methane — a rise that has continued since, unlike the trend at any other time in Earth’s geologic history.

              It also shows that without this human influence, by the start of the Industrial Revolution, the planet would have likely been headed for another ice age.

              “Had it not been for early agriculture, Earth’s climate would be significantly cooler today,” says lead author, Stephen Vavrus, a senior scientist in the University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Climatic Research in the Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies. “The ancient roots of farming produced enough carbon dioxide and methane to influence the environment.”

              The findings are based on a sophisticated climate model that compared our current geologic time period, called the Holocene, to a similar period 800,000 years ago. They show the earlier period, called MIS19, was already 2.3 degrees Fahrenheit (1.3 C) cooler globally than the equivalent time in the Holocene, around the year 1850. This effect would have been more pronounced in the Arctic, where the model shows temperatures were 9-to-11 degrees Fahrenheit colder.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Hahahahaha that’s priceless!

              The Green Grooopies and their organic farming… as I have been saying for years here on OFW

              Death to the Followers of Scott and Helen Nearing! Death to all farmers both industrial and organic.

              Where’s my trophy?

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Interesting!

              Maybe the anti-AGW crowd think that we ‘should’ be in an ice age?

              LOL

            • Nope.avi urging sinners to repent says:

              I’d say life on Earth AND geothermal activity can alter the Earth’s climate. If the climate never changed, If life on Earth never “changed the Earth’s climate”, the Earth would would never have produced us.

              There is no evidence of humans changing the climate change. All the change that is being talked about come FROM MODELS. The models are flawed to put it nicely.
              Your charge that the jet stream has been destabilized is a flat out lie. Or to put it nicely, a belief.

              Climate change is a religion that bares a strange resemblance to other “white” religions… it has moral universalism…lots of guilt…we’re all complicit in the destruction of life on earth…but if we all work together…under the white man’s rules we can all be saved. This sounds familiar. Where have we heard this before, Norman?

            • JesseJames says:

              “A sea level rise of 6 – 8” since the 1880s,”
              Rubbish

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              “Climate change is a religion that bares a strange resemblance”

              AGW = original sin, salvation through regret and self-denial, obedience to leaders?

              And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life. Gn 3

              Except ye do penance, ye shall all likewise perish. Lk. 13

              Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. Heb. 13

            • Mike Roberts says:

              I don’t think many here are very interested in the truth of the matter, Norman. As for most humans, it will take this issue hitting them hard and persistently before they will understand the speed of the change that current lifestyles are responsible for. But at that point, they (like the rest of us) will be too occupied with coping to think on the truth of the matter.

              Gail thinks that there is some kind of myth that CC only started since 1750. There is no such myth, that I’m aware of, but it provides another apparent counter (even though her reference actually supports the notion that humans have played a big part).

              Others actually still believe that humans cannot possibly have that kind of impact and will believe that to their deaths, probably.

              One thing is certain, the majority of people disregard the truth of this matter (except in opinion polls) so there is no way back from this.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Notice how mike and norm also embrace that other Great Mass Psychosis… The CovCON…

              And they inject hahaha

              The CC Mass Psychosis is mostly harmless.. but the CovCON… well that can end in misery https://openvaers.com/index.php

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              If we do not “believe” in AGW then we shall suffer in the hot place. /s

              He that believes is not condemned: but he that does not believe is condemned already. Jn 3

              Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels. Mt 25

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Why dont the GWers explain why Leo invested millions into building a concrete eco resort literally inches above sea level?

              (cuz mass psychosis haha)

            • Tim Groves says:

              Oh give us a break, Norman — and Mike — and do your own sodding research, instead of regurgitating press release materials.

              If you did your own research and went back just one thousand years, you would have found that the vikings were farming sheep in southern Greenland and growing cereals in Iceland.

              You would also come across data showing that the Little Ice Age that ended in the nineteenth century was the coldest period, worldwide, of the past ten thousand years.

              If you are interested in sea level changes, you might care to start here:

              “On the paraglacial coast of Northern Ireland the late Holocene sea level history involves a rise from a lowstand at 13ka to cross the present level by around 7kaBP reaching a few metres above present by 5ka BP and a subsequent fall to present sea level. `Raised’ or `stranded’ beaches associated with the late Holocene highstand are distributed widely around the Northern Ireland Coast ”

              http://eprints.ulster.ac.uk/1464/

              Not just Northern Island either. The world is full of “stranded beaches” showing that sea level was higher than today just a few thousand years ago.

              Also, on temperature, as you research, you may come across this interesting factoid that each of the past five millennia has been, on the average, colder than the millennium before it. That’s long-term cooling in line with Milankovitch. Check it out.

              The evidence seems to be that we are in the autumn of the 40,000+ year climate cycle. The Holocene summer is behind us, and we are heading towards winter. A few warm years or decades is not going to change that any more than a few warm October days are going to stop those January blizzards from blowing.

              But Norman — and Mike — I know you aren’t going do your own sodding research. Instead, you are just going to go on regurgitating those press releases. Because that’s what you do—blovating in Noman’s case, and trying to sound reasonable and sensible but missing by a gnat’s wing in Mike’ case.

            • well well well

              the vikings farming in greenland—whoever heard of such a thing?

              and the thames freezing over in the 17th c

              unbelievable

              my grandmother was always asking me to teach her to suck eggs.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Dealing with people experiencing mass psychosis is a very frustrating thing… they will ignore all logic and facts and instead regurgitate what they have been told to think

              You could lock mike norm in a room for 10 years and force their eyes open and make them look at data and facts … you could try to reverse their illogical beliefs using facts and logic…

              And still … you would not turn them

            • Mirror on the wall says:

              Very interesting Tim, well done.

    • Mike Roberts says:

      Back to the stone age? Aren’t humans required for that outcome?

      • Mike Roberts says:

        As usual, an irrelevant reply to my comment.

      • It is humans who are perhaps going back to the stone age, so humans are required for that outcome. It is not clear that this is the final outcome, however.

        A case could be made that the foundation is being laid for the metamorphosis of humans into almost a different species that can dissipate more energy. This is the way dissipative structures seem to work. This metamorphosis might be enabled by all of the vaccines and radiation that are likely to be damaging human DNA now and in the future. Somehow, the process of evolution (made possible by a Higher Power) allows these things to work together for the good.

        • it isn’t possible to dissipate more energy than is physically available…irrespective of ‘species’.

          to ‘access’ energy, work has to be put in.

          it isn’t possible to access the energy locked in a tree without cutting it down and reworking it into more usable pieces.

          same applies to oil.

          oil of itself is useless–we have to put all the work in to drill wells and build refineries–then build machines in which to burn it.

          when we finally come to the end of the oil era—it would be an interesting exercise –if it was possible to do it— to arrive at an equation which calculated all the energy we put in, since 1859–and showed all the energy we got out, say to neat year–2059?.

          my guess would be that our net result would be zero–or close to it.

          my guess of zero is based on human nature.

          as oil goes into access-scarcity, we will use
          more and more energy-demanding methods to get hold of it, thus negating all positive EROEI of the first 100 years (1859-1959).
          Our current situation (halfway through the 2nd oil-century) seems to indicate that we are already in a state of negative equity.

          whether a higher power exists or not, we know the speed at which evolution takes place. We have all the records of it.

          Our physical selves might become something else, but it will take about 2m years.

          fossil fuels need about 100m years to build up.

          so whatever we mutate into will be about 98m years too early for the next energy bonanza

        • Kowalainen says:

          Yes, the productivity/energy and innovation/energy ratios are abysmal in HSS. After all; we’ve blown through a copious amount of energy and just relatively recently gotten semiconductors, the internet and somewhat decent self-learning algorithms.

          I guess a tool making species that ends up reveling in various forms of egotistical WtP fantasy soon will find themselves scheduled for extinction either by their own merit or as you say “higher powers”, or a combination of both.

          It is not pretty, but it is what it is.

          Unfortunately our history and current escapades makes training and using A(G)I an exercise in cognitive dissonance, compartmentalizations, schizophrenia and cruelty.

          And apparently some self entitled MOARons are going to “curate” content before stuffing it in the training pipeline. Imagine the characteristic tryhard moaronism psychology and sanctimonious hypocrisy that gave rise to the problem in the first place, self appointed as arbiters and selectors of decency.

          LOL!
          🤣👍👍

          What sort of is a bit perplexing in the “higher power” hypothesis is why bother with hoomans (and a biosphere) in the first place? If tech is that advanced it must be virtually trivial to strip mine and deplete a planet/asteroid in no time flat.

          I just don’t get it. Perhaps it’s just fun, just like children play with an ant hive? Poke around in it and spray some pheromones, radiate them with microwaves, a bit of poison, viruses, vaxxes, starvation and opulence. While at it why not twerk with the genetics and watch it go haywire.

          Fun and games, fun and games.

          But I’m going to go with the beauty and reflection hypothesis. Everything is a reflection of the source so to speak. Whatever that which can output most complexity, resiliency and variety rules the day in evolutionary systems.

          Similar to the embodiments, mistakes hurt and there is passion behind the pain and a cheerful smile and rage to light things up from the mundanities of the noise floor of rapacious primate affairs.

          Yeah; who knows…
          🤔

        • Fast Eddy says:

          If UEP fails we go back to the stone age – no tech – no electricity – no oil – no food etc… mass violence rape cannibalism disease… fuel ponds…

          And then extinction.

          • I don’t think the UEP can be “universal.” Humans and pre-humans lived through ice ages. It may be that a very mutated version of humans lives through what is to come. It may also be that the world geography and climate will change a whole lot. Coal that is now inaccessible because it is under the North Sea may become available, for example. Mutated humans will again thrive many, many years from now, again as dissipative structures.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The issue is the spent fuel ponds. They are definitely going to boil dry and spew for a very very long time.

              We know that there were contingency plans to evacuate Tokyo when Fukushima’s ponds were threatened… Actually that would not have helped because the supply chain implodes if you unplug Japan…

              Can the remote primitive tribes located in the southern hemisphere survive the fallout?

              Keep in mind the research indicates these ponds remain active for centuries… we are talking a lot of toxic shit spewing into the air and water… and it remains dangerous for a very long time…

              It’s all a bit moot at least for everyone on OFW – I don’t think we have any primitive tribes people here. We will all starve — even the doomies cuz the hordes will find them.

  45. Mirror on the wall says:

    LOL

    > Russian gains in Ukraine’s east indicate a shift in momentum in the war

    Russian gains in recent days indicate a shift in momentum in the war, now in its fourth month. The invading forces appear close to seizing all of the Luhansk region of Donbas, a main Kremlin war goal.

    Russia’s defence ministry said on Saturday its troops and allied separatist forces were now in full control of Lyman, site of a railway junction and lying west of the Siverskyi Donets River in the Donetsk region that neighbours Luhansk.

    The governor of Luhansk, which along with Donetsk makes up the Donbas, said on Friday Russian troops had already entered Sievierodonetsk.

    The Russian forces have been making slow but steady advances in the Donbas.

    “If Russia did succeed in taking over these areas, it would highly likely be seen by the Kremlin as a substantive political achievement and be portrayed to the Russian people as justifying the invasion,” the British defence ministry said in its daily intelligence report.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-troops-may-retreat-eastern-region-russia-advances-2022-05-28/

    • At some point, Reuters needs to acknowledge that the Russians are doing quite well in Ukraine.

      • ivanislav says:

        They will keep saying Russia is losing until if and when Russia rolls over Lviv.

      • houtskool says:

        At some point, Reuters has to acknowledge there is a time to profit, and there is a time to blur outcomes.

        And we have to acknowledge nothing really changes until reality sets in.

  46. Dennis L. says:

    More positive:

    ““Some bankruptcies need to happen. Also, all the Covid stay-at-home stuff has tricked people into thinking that you don’t actually need to work hard,” he continued.

    He said he thought a recession would last 12 to 18 months and, channeling his inner Milton Friedman, said: “Companies that are inherently negative cash flow (ie value destroyers) need to die, so that they stop consuming resources.”

    You can call it ironic that Musk’s company would have likely been wiped out in a recession a couple of years ago, but for now the Tesla founder seems to have far more of a clue about economics than those in government and at the Fed.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/bankruptcies-need-happen-elon-musk-says-economy-necessary-rude-awakening

    More resource conservation, what’s not to like?

    Dennis L.

    • The question is whether some group of countries can actually get out of the recession in some reasonable period of time, say two years. I am wondering if the EU starts breaking up and some individual countries start to breaking. China with all of its problems is a candidate for breaking up. The US is a candidate. Canada would seem to be a candidate, as well.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Always a positive, I think the US will make it; it won’t be easy.

        Europe: WWI, we kept it together; WWII, we kept it together and rebuilt it. This time, I vote we sell tickets, popcorn and sit it out.

        It wasn’t easy for my parents’ generation in WWII, depression, it wasn’t easy for mine, Vietnam, 50Kdead, countless mangled. Life is what it is, my self comment, many times with gritted teath, “I will deal with it.”

        Dennis L.

        • vbaker says:

          Will these countries be able to produce the truck parts in quantity enough to keep whomever is still alive in ~three years in reasonable comfort? Will the states in each country still trust the other states enough to work with them? For example, will Nevada allow any water to flow to California?

          Would there be any point in keeping a United anything after we are down to diesel for just food production and train transport?

          It will certainly be interesting to see how this all plays out. Everything seems set to crumble.

        • postkey says:

          “53:33 there is not an industrial process that is done in china that can’t be done in north america at a lower cost because
          53:38 our labor is so much more productive our energy is so much cheaper our supply lines are so much shorter . . . “?

      • Minority of One says:

        I wonder how soon Hungary decides best to leave the EU, or gets kicked out?

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