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The problem is hitting limits in the extraction of fossil fuels
We know that historically, many economies around the world have collapsed. We also know that there is a physics reason why this happens. Growing economies require a growing supply of energy to keep up with a growing population. At some point, the energy supply and other resource needs cannot grow rapidly enough to keep up with population growth. When this happens, economies tend to collapse.
In their book Secular Cycles, researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov found that economies tend go through four distinct phases in each cycle, with each stage lasting for quite a few years:
- Growth
- Stagflation
- Crisis
- Inter-cycle
Based on my own analysis, the world economy was in the Growth Stage for much of the time between the Industrial Revolution and 1973. In late 1973, oil prices spiked, and the world was put on notice that the energy supply could not continue rising as rapidly as in the past. Between 1973 and 2018, the world economy was in the Stagflation Stage. Based on current data, the world economy seems to have entered the Crisis Stage about 2018. This is the reason for saying that headwinds are beginning to hold the economy back in the title of this article .
When the Crisis Stage occurs, there are fewer goods and services per capita to go around, so some participants in the world economy must come out behind. Conflict of all kinds becomes more likely. Political leaders, if they happen to discover the predicament the world economy is in, have little interest in making the predicament known to voters, since doing so would likely lead them to lose the next election.
Instead, the way the physics-based self-organizing economic system works is that alternative narratives that frame the situation in a less frightening way gain popularity. Political leaders may not even be aware of how dependent today’s economy is on fossil fuels. Researchers may not be aware that their “scientific” models are misleading because they look at too small a portion of the overall system and make unwarranted assumptions.
In this post, I show evidence that the economy is reaching energy limits. In the last section, I explain how my view differs from the standard narrative, which says that there is almost an unlimited amount of fossil fuels available to burn, if we choose to utilize these fossil fuels. According to this view, humans can prevent climate change by voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels.
The standard narrative proposes a reasonable plan for citizens of parts of the world without adequate fossil fuels (cut back on buying fossil fuels), but without telling citizens what the real problem is. The standard narrative also gives the impression that there is a near-term clean energy alternative. In my opinion, this is wishful thinking for the reasons I describe in Sections [6] and [7]. Section [2] also sheds light on the reasonableness of moving to renewable energy.
[1] The world has been warned, at least twice, that collapse might occur about now.
Back in the 1950s, several physicists, including M. King Hubbert, became interested in the limits that the world was up against. The military became interested in the problem, as well. In 1957, Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a very insightful speech. One thing Admiral Rickover said was, “With high energy consumption goes a high standard of living.” Another thing he said was, “A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life.”
Regarding the future, he said,
For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.
The issue Admiral Rickover is pointing out is that as extraction costs rise, fossil fuels become increasingly unaffordable. If citizens cannot afford food, housing, and other basic goods made with high-cost fossil fuels, those fossil fuels will be left in the ground. If politicians try to pass the high cost of extraction on to consumers, it will cause inflation. Citizens will become unhappy with politicians and will vote them out of office. This is basically our problem today.
A second analysis that pointed to the current time frame for the world hitting fossil fuel limits is given in the 1972 book, The Limits To Growth by Donella Meadows and others. This analysis used computer modeling to look at several alternative future scenarios, considering resources available and population trends. The base scenario showed resource limits in general hitting sometime around 2020. The economy would collapse over a period of years after resource limits were hit.
[2] The Industrial Revolution in England is an example of how an economy changes for the better when fossil fuel energy is added.
Figure 1 shows a chart E. A. Wrigley shows in his book, Energy and the English Industrial Revolution:
Wrigley observes that when coal was added to the economy, it was possible to make far more metal tools than had been made in the past. With the use of metal tools instead of wood tools, farmers could be three times as productive. Thus, there didn’t need to be as many farmers, freeing some farmers for other occupations. Also, roads to coal mines were paved, in an era when few roads were paved. These paved roads were beneficial to other businesses and to the economy as a whole.
Another reason for coal to be of interest was because of increased deforestation near cities, as the population grew. This deforestation led to a need to transport firewood over long distances. Coal was more compact, and so easier to transport. Furthermore, the use of coal prevented having to cut down as many trees, helping the environment.
Figure 1 shows that energy from wind and water were only a tiny part of the economy, both before and after coal was added. They did not directly provide heat energy, which was a significant share of what the economy needed at that time.
[3] The period between the end of World War II and 1973 was another period when energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly. We might say the economy then had an “energy tailwind.”
Figure 2 shows that US energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly in the 1949 to 1973 period. Growing oil, coal and natural gas consumption all contributed to the overall rise in fossil fuel use.
In fact, BP data (only available from 1965 onward) shows energy consumption per capita rising for most parts of the world between 1965 and 1973. During this period, oil, coal and natural gas consumption per capita were all rising.
A major thing that pushed oil consumption along was its low price (Figure 4). According to BP data, the inflation-adjusted price was only $11.99 per barrel in 1970. In 1971, it averaged $14.30 per barrel. The comparable price today is about $79 per barrel.
The average price for 1973 rose to the equivalent of $19.73 per barrel, which is still incredibly low relative to today’s prices. It is an annual average price, reflecting a low price at the beginning of the year and a much higher price toward the end of the year.
There were multiple issues behind the rise in oil prices, starting at the end of 1973. Part of the problem was the fact that US oil production began to fall in 1971, necessitating the use of more imported oil, year after year. Another issue was that world oil production could not keep up with the high demand, given the low price that oil was selling for. The Office of the Historian of the US writes the following:
By 1973, OPEC had demanded that foreign oil corporations increase prices and cede greater shares of revenue to their local subsidiaries. In April, the Nixon administration announced a new energy strategy to boost domestic production to reduce U.S. vulnerability to oil imports and ease the strain of nationwide fuel shortages. That vulnerability would become overtly clear in the fall of that year.
Without higher oil prices, it would be hard for local producers to make the investments needed to ramp up production. Also, taxes for governments in the areas where the oil was produced were falling too low, given the low prices that oil was selling for on the international market. Indirectly because of these problems, but supposedly also because of support for Israel by certain countries in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the Arab members of OPEC initiated an oil embargo. This embargo cut off exports to the US, Netherlands, Portugal, and South Africa from November 1973 until March 1974. It was at that time that world oil prices rose to a much higher level, and oil consumption per capita began to fall.
One thing that is striking about the period between World War II and 1973 is the huge advances in wages made by both the bottom 90% and the top 10% (Figure 5).
Between 1948 and 1968, inflation-adjusted income of both the bottom 90% and the top 10% increased by roughly 80%. This meant that many people in the bottom 90% could afford to buy cars and their own homes for the first time. Even in the period between 1968 and 1982, inflation-adjusted incomes kept up with inflation, something that low-income earners today have difficulty with. It was not until after about 1982 that wage disparity started to increase.
Most people remember the 1950s and 1960s as a favorable period for ordinary workers. Because of the higher wages of ordinary citizens and growing US manufacturing capabilities, the number of cars registered in the US rose from 25.8 million in 1945 to 75.3 million in 1965. The US initiated the 41,000 mile Interstate Highway System in 1956, so that auto owners would have multilane, limited access roads to travel on.
Electricity was sold in a conservative way, called the Utility Pricing System, which would hopefully assure that the whole system would be properly maintained. Utilities were typically owners of electricity generation units, plus all other local infrastructure, including transmission lines. Each utility would compute a total required rate for all its needs, including enough funds to install new generating capacity, provide fuel, and install and maintain transmission lines. A government regulator would approve the rates, but there was no real competition.
[4] In the period between 1973 and 2018, many changes were to increase energy efficiency and to lower the perceived cost to users. Unfortunately, some of these changes, when taken to the extremes they were taken to later in the period, tended to make the economy brittle and thus more subject to collapse.
Up until 1973, oil was being put to uses for which substitution could easily be made. One of these was electricity generation; another was home heating. An easy change in electricity generation was to build new generating facilities using an alternate fuel (coal, natural gas, or nuclear). Home heating could often be changed to natural gas or electricity.
Also, Japan already had automobiles that were smaller and more fuel efficient than American automobiles. These could be substituted for some of the large cars produced in the US.
Especially with the Reagan and Thatcher administrations starting shortly after 1980, there was more interest in cutting costs in electricity generation. “Competitive rating” instead of utility rating became popular in places where electricity prices were high. Utilities were broken up, and the various parts were encouraged to compete.
Of course, competitive rating, when taken to its extreme, can lead to the neglect of infrastructure. It was recently reported that California’s utility company, Pacific Gas and Electric, now finds that it must raise $50 billion for wildfire prevention, after years of neglecting maintenance on the long distance transmission lines used for hydroelectric generation and other long distance transmission. Now it needs to raise money to bury many of these lines underground.
It has long been known that added complexity can be helpful in working around problems of inadequate energy supply. Complexity involves many things including using more advanced technology and international trade. It involves bigger organizations to take advantage of economies of scale. It tends to require higher education for at least some of its workers.
One major disadvantage of growing complexity is the increasing wage disparity it tends to produce. Wages for less educated workers often fall quite low. Work in whole industries may disappear overseas, leaving workers to start over, in new lines of work, at lower pay scales.
Unfortunately, having many workers at low wages tends to push an economy toward collapse. The big issue is that these workers cannot afford goods like cars and new homes. Their lack of purchasing power tends to hold down commodity prices, such as the price of fossil fuels. Prices don’t rise high enough to justify new investment to raise production, so production slows down and eventually stops.
Another approach that gained popularity starting about 1981 was the increased use of debt and more exotic financial approaches. Interest rates were very high in 1981. Central banks could make monthly payments for goods such as homes and cars more affordable by lowering interest rates. This approach works for a while, but it reaches limits when interest rates fall too low relative to inflation rates. Furthermore, if an economy slows down, a major increase in debt defaults becomes likely, as became clear in 2008. With the high level of debt in the world economy today, the default problem could become even worse in 2023 or 2024 than it was in 2008, if the economy slows again.
[5] Since 2015, oil and natural gas investments have remained at low levels because oil prices have not been high enough to justify drilling in the remaining places.
In my opinion, oil companies really need quite high oil prices, probably $120 per barrel or higher, on a consistent basis, to justify drilling in sufficient new locations to ramp up oil production. Since 2014, prices have generally remained far below that level. There was a major drop in oil prices in 2014 and 2015. In response to the lower oil prices, oil and gas companies cut back on investment in “Exploration and Production” (E&P). (Figure 7)
After a drop in E&P investments, oil production does not drop immediately. Instead, 2018 was the single highest year of oil production. Production looks likely to drop further because of the continued lack of investment (Figure 8).
[6] If we look across the major types of energy supply, we discover that “Wind and Solar” is the only category rising significantly faster than world population. Others tend to be flat or falling, on a per capita basis.
In Figure 9, the star performer is the category “Wind + Solar.” The main attraction of wind and solar today is the subsidies they get, and the mandates that require utilities to move away from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, wind and solar really aren’t terribly helpful as far as I can see, except from the point of view of the benefit of the subsidies they provide.
One of the problems with intermittent wind and solar is that they tend to drive nuclear electricity providers out of business because of the favorable rates they receive when wind and solar are allowed to go first, in competitive rating schemes. With this arrangement, the wholesale rates that nuclear providers receive often fall to negative amounts. Nuclear providers cannot close down for short periods with negative rates, so they tend to need subsidies to remain open. Figure 9 shows that the supply of nuclear electricity has been dropping since at least 2001. In fact, of all the energy types shown on Figure 9, nuclear’s production (relative to population) is dropping fastest.
In my opinion, our primary energy concern should be food production and transport. Diesel, made from oil, is the major fuel for agriculture. It will be decades before farming machinery and transport of food can be changed over to electricity, assuming this can be done at all. Until this happens, electricity’s role in getting food to the shelves of grocery stores will be limited.
Solar energy comes primarily in the summer but, unfortunately, in many places, the big need for heat energy is in the winter. People in Europe, with their many wind turbines and solar panels, are worried about possibly freezing in the dark this winter if natural gas supplies prove inadequate. We don’t have batteries for storing solar or wind energy for months on end, so they cannot be counted on for winter heat.
When homeowners put solar panels on their roofs, the electricity they sell to the utility is often “net metered” (credited with the full retail value of electricity that this home would pay). This is a huge subsidy to the owners of the solar panels because the value of the intermittent electricity to the utility is far less than this, probably closer to the cost of the natural gas or other fuel saved.
To make up for the loss of revenue caused by the overly generous compensation to solar panel owners, the utility is forced to raise rates for those without solar panels. Studies show that homeowners with solar panels tend to be wealthier than the renters and others who do not have the opportunity to add these subsidized solar panels. Thus, this is an example of a benefit for rich homeowners being paid for by less wealthy buyers of electricity.
I would also argue that the BP data I used to produce Figure 9 tends to give an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar. The approach used indirectly assumes that they fully replace the entire system of dispatchable electricity used today, rather than providing only intermittent electricity. The less generous approach (giving a little less than half as much credit) is used by the International Energy Association and by many researchers.
Furthermore, solar panels tend to pollute ground water when they are disposed of, so they are not very clean. Wind turbines are noisy, take up farmland, and kill bats and birds, so they have serious drawbacks as well.
Wind and solar are made and transported using fossil fuels. They cannot last any longer than today’s fossil fuel industry. In fact, roads and transmission lines require fossil fuels to continue. The whole system is likely to go down at approximately the same time.
It seems to me that the main reason why we hear so much about intermittent wind and solar is because there needs to be a hopeful narrative for politicians to provide to voters, and for educators to provide to students. Otherwise, the situation shown on Figure 9 looks grim. The fact that fossil fuel prices have been spiking in 2022 and regulators are trying to get these prices back down again is testimony to the fact that we are running short of cheap-to-produce fossil fuel energy.
[7] The incorrect narrative provided by mainstream media (MSM) is that climate change is our worst problem. To lessen this problem, citizens need to move quickly away from fossil fuels and transition to renewables. The real narrative is that we are running short of fossil fuels that can be profitably extracted, and renewables are not adequate substitutes. However, this narrative is too worrisome for most people to handle.
I expect most readers will say, your view can’t be right. We don’t read this story in the news. All we hear about is climate change and the need to reduce fossil fuel usage to prevent climate change.
In many ways, the narrative presented by MSM is less frightening to the public than a narrative in which fuels are already being stretched too thin. The MSM narrative sounds like a situation that we can perhaps live with and work around. It sounds like careers that people study for today will be useful in the future. It also sounds like homes, cars and factories built today will be useful in the future.
One major difference in the MSM view, relative to my view, is with respect to the amounts of fossil fuels that can be extracted. The standard narrative says we will extract all the fossil fuels that we have the technology to extract unless we make a concerted effort not to extract these fuels. For this to happen, demand (a favorite word of economists) must keep rising to keep prices high enough for businesses to want to continue extraction from fields plagued by depletion.
History shows that when an economy approaches limits, what tends to happen is that demand tends to fall too low. This happens because the physics of the way the economy works: Wage and wealth disparities tend to spike as energy resources are increasingly stretched thin. In fact, the great wealth of the top 1%, relative to that of the remaining 99%, is a major problem in the world today. When increasing wage and wealth disparity occurs, a growing number of poor workers find themselves with inadequate wages to buy food, homes, cars and other goods made with commodities, including oil.
There are so many of these poor workers that their lack of demand tends to bring down commodity prices without government intervention. If these low wages are not sufficient to hold down commodity prices, politicians will raise interest rates to try to get commodity prices down, so they can be re-elected. It is low fossil fuel prices that will drive fossil fuel providers out of business.
Of course, another part of the MSM narrative is the view that renewables can save the system. I explained in Section [6] why this cannot be the case for wind and solar. I didn’t say much about hydroelectricity, but it is already built out in most of the developed world. Electricity from hydroelectric plants tends to be intermittent, with the greatest supply coming in the spring, when snow melts. Like wind and solar, hydroelectric generation plants are built and repaired using fossil fuels. These facilities, and their transmission lines, will last only until parts break that cannot be repaired.
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This is the same chart as from your previous post, but this chart is well worth looking at. It shows graphically all of the excess deaths recently.
Sorry I cannot find the previous correct post about this German chart.
Can someone please post it again?
Many thanks!
Sorry I found it. Never mind. Thanks!
30000 excess deaths per year in a country of 80M. We are going to whittle down the population to sustainable levels over 2000 years. It’s scary, thank goodness for FE reporting about it.
This is peripheral damage – the warm up – wait till The Main Event.
It’s coming.
Keep on Boosting!
I mean 2000 years is such a short time… with the main event, we could go down to even a 1000 years. I am afraid they will have to depopulate the way the Romans or americans did if they want anything shorter.
I was saying only yesterday evening to M Fast … that perhaps this is a Cull … not total extermination… providing a glimmer of hope (although I think she still questions the BAU Lite thing… how does it work if you cull billions…)
It’s a pleasant thought though
72 million Germans and COVID gene injection injury data: “German Data Analyst Reveals Data from Health Insurance Shows 4 Times Increase in Sudden Deaths Following COVID Vaccine Rollouts”
https://palexander.substack.com/p/72-million-germans-and-covid-gene
Does anyone know anyone who got seriously ill or died from covid?
If you do — did they have comorbidities?
I don’t know nor do I know of a single person who’s been hospitalized or died from covid. Not one.
I know and know of close to 20 with vax injuries.
The chart does look disturbing, I would agree. The big jump in the heart deaths took place in 2021, when the vaccines were rolled out, not in 2020. It looks like the big heart-related death problem came from the vaccines.
STOP PRESS….!!
It is excellent. I wish Chad could slap down some even harsher observations about the hooman “condition”.
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Jan
Really enjoyed your comment on the oil war. I got lost in the thread so figured I’d reply here.
Two aspects that completely change the picture from what you described are Saudi and Venezuela. You say that China and Russia will protect Saudi and Venezuelan oil, respectively, from US pilfering but Saudi ultimately owes all of its oil industry’s development to Standard Oil and the US has its military in Saudi which says to me that it’s a defacto US colony. As for Venezuela, Chevron (another Standard Oil subsidiary) operates Venezuelan production, despite the Russian political alliance with Venezuela. Not to mention the geographical advantage the US has here.
Among other horsetrades the HTOE has always held that Russia gets Ukraine, or at least the great Ukrainian farmlands, and the US deposes, formally or informally, the House of Saud, returning Standard Oil to it’s hereditary owners in the AngloZionists, and Venezuelan diesel oil also becomes an American protectorate, although Gail seems to think that Venezuelan oil is pretty much kaput. And like you say, China gets it’s claws in Iran and Iraq oil. The US handed Iraqi oil over to China on a silver platter.
If the price of oil would rise higher, it could be that Venezuelan oil would be worthwhile. It would be good from the point of view of producing diesel fuel for trucks and agriculture, I expect. Chevron has experience out in California with Heavy Oil. It has figured out how to keep costs way down.
Of course, the Venezuelan government needs tax revenue, so that is one reason the price would need to be high. Also, China has a lot of debt that Venezuela owes. IIRC, that debt is to be repaid in oil. I don’t suppose that China would be happy if Venezuela starts extracting oil and sending it to the United States instead of China.
Thanks for fleshing it out some more, Gail. I could certainly see the US providing food aid etc to Venezuela so that they have the bare essentials necessary for maintaining stable production. China forgiving Venezuelan debt is just part repayment to the US for letting them do the disaster capitalism in Iraq, with Chinese characteristics lol. Or whatever. The HTOE is flexible. The US standing down on Taiwan as it obviously could be construed as repayment in the other direction, for Venezuelan debt forgiveness, plus a bilateral microchip quota. Or whatever.
Gotta keep the lopsided ball rolling until the spent fuel is in the ocean trench, right Peter? The ocean trench?
as it obviously WILL could be construed
One of the most questionable decisions of the 1990s would be not dismembering Russia and not taking its sources for virtually free.
Giving quarters to Russia and other weaker countries proved to be not a wise decision.
One of the most stupid remarks of all time is “Hindsight is 20/20”.
Those who can deduce how things would develop in advance can kind of predict the future to some reasonable degree, and those who ignored historical examples and defend themselves by saying stupid remarks like that were trusted too much by the people running Western government for years.
Hindsight is not 20/20. It is just the fulfillment of historical patterns which occurred too many times in the past.
While we sleep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuHfzVkZGBU&t=336s
Chamath is a billionaire, not known for making poor decisions.
This looks to change everything, e.g. medicine, tax accounting, actuaries(?),
An original open AI investor? Ah, certain car maker.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-history-openai-maker-011005933.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANoPN9esQb6zI_EQKdIiAjGVon0TcKQWRFYbrw_A9fwVUPJ4FDhebZ0O-fbs923ty8PP56OGNoMR0G2_OTZ-jQ4BxnkUIFFFrqz52BrXVRdqhcj-FiLWEHU5q2jPN8YI6Gy7-8372pPue0L2UlPU9Bnlt06fomP69wBNhia97Fo7
We are looking too close for answers,
We talk about electric cars not being the answer, anyone we know selling stock in a certain EV manufacture?
This has interesting possibilities for say a chat application. Fact checker at speed of light? What happens to politics when everyone knows the answer and can make monetary bets?
We all know fusion is impossible, don’t we? What if it is possible?
Chamath at 11:30 has some interesting ideas.
Chamath at 13:20, 80/20 rule and last few percent. Knowledge becomes a commodity.
Some of us are going light speed, hell of a race.
Dennis L.
I can imaging a search engine based on human spoken language can be helpful. But isn’t that what “Alexis” is about today, except this would be more extensive.
I can imagine a market in India and Africa, especially where a lot of different languages are spoken and not necessarily written very much. But elsewhere, I am not so sure. Of course, maybe I didn’t understand this.
Tower of (AI) Babel 2.0.
Confuse the living cr@p out of the halfwits.
An evolutionary trap.
Do not believe anything unless it can be directly observed or logically deduced by reasoning.
Say, for example, the ugly truth below:
The rapacious primate (hoomans) is forever bound to boom and bust cycles caused by the species sexual dimorphism and psychosocial tendencies.
By all means – prove me wrong. But you can’t, can ye? And before even trying, have a good long look at the ruins from the past and relatively present.
But don’t get me wrong; I’m all for devolution and the temptations of unfair advantage.
🤣👍👍
One cannot blame the MOREONS for what’s going down … they are burdened with this thing they refer to as ‘intelligence’ … which caused them to ‘innovate’ to the point where there are now 8B of them — whose survival is 100% reliant on … finite substances.
Yet they get angry when Fast informs them that ‘intelligence’ is a form of mental illness.
0.001%, likely a lot less, got anything to do with innovation.
The Rapacious Primate just want to fit into whatever narrative and psychosocial conditioning is all the rage today baby.
It could be flying flint tipped arrows at each other, deer, or hurl feces at the chimp joneses in the next tree plume from yesteryears.
Today the Hypers are busy projecting egotistical fantasy by burning fossil fuels. But it really doesn’t matter, it only does to those who sort of enjoys a reasonable life without drudgery and ill health from malnutrition, and of course the biosphere itself.
It seems existence itself causes them to suffer, and they are medicating themselves with natural substances found in copiates and hopiums, or synthetics in the form of dope.
It is the very existence itself that is the “problem”, as it causes unrealistic expectations and various forms of egotistical fantasy ultimately falling flat onto the ugly reality of anticlimax and craving. It is completely irregardless of whatever powers their “ambitions”, wood, coal, oil, nuke, green, you name it.
Let’s sing out aloud:
TRYHARDS GONNA TRYHARD
MOARONS GONNA MOAR
IN PERPETUITY
JUST SEND IT
🌍💥☄️☄️☄️
🤣👍👍
“The rapacious primate (hoomans) is forever bound to boom and bust cycles caused by the species sexual dimorphism and psychosocial tendencies.”
That’s a pessimistic way to put it, but at least in the past, perhaps accurate.
A long time ago humans escaped predation by the big cats. For hundreds of thousands of years, the cycle was population build up followed by a glitch in the weather and the choice of starving in place or attacking neighbors for their resources.
It turns out if you model this choice, the option of attacking neighbors is better for genes. The reason is that the young women (and the genes from the defeated) are incorporated into the winner’s tribe.
I can post the math details of this model if anyone wants to see it.
What evolution has done is select conditional psychological mechanisms that induce humans to war when they anticipate a resource crisis.
It’s not all bad though. War mode is kept off in people who anticipate a positive future because going to war when the alternative is not worse is bad for genes.
For those who remember the IRA, the Irish women killed that off. Over 40 years they reduced the number of kids they had to replacement. With some growth in the economy the income per capita went up, the future looked brighter and population support for the IRA dried up.
Ten minute summary of the Senator Ron Johnson injection discussion event followed by 20 minutes of assorted pieces of information. Somthing for everyone! Even a pangolin reference for Norm!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MRiSGRhhzETc/
@Agamemnon
Norm explained part of the reason why I hate Brigadier Charles Fitzclarence, whom I call Chucky as in the satanic doll in the Child’s Play series, so much but let me explain.
What he did is no different than what the Trojan prince Paris did with the apple of Helen, an incident you should know since your sig appears to tell that you are quite fond of the Greek Mythologies.
The Great War began , Yes, s*it happens.
However, if Chucky and his 200 Worecestershires ran instead of making a stand, the British Army would have cracked , the current government falls, the channel ports taken, and the Great War’s plug would have been pulled quietly and everything returning back to normal as if nothing had happened by Christmas time in 1914.
General John French, at that time the commander of the British Expedition Force, praised Chucky’s action, even praising that Chucky, who perished seven days later, saved the Empire.
After 4 years, with a million British dead and a bankrupt government and Woodrow Wilson getting to call the shots in the world, no one remembered Chucky other than some people in Worcestershire, who still think he is great while the nonwhite pop of Worcetershire is about 6% now and growing.
Without Chucky, there would have been no need to do anything for the poor, the colonials, the less franchied, etc. (Votes for women were inevitable because women’s economic status would have grown in time, but it is likely that like men, only women of property would have voted.)
The destruction of the Great War and the following resentments led to depression and hopelessness. David H Lawrence wrote Lady Chatterley. The husband, the last of a long family of aristocrats, became paralyzed in the Great War (thanks to Chucky, again), and the wife, with a series of promiscuity but only mating with upper classes before , has sex with a lowly gardner.
Aldous Huxley’s wife typed the manuscript for publication, basically telling the English upper class about how they f*cked up.
Without Chucky, there would have been no need to do anything for the poor and the working class; thanks to Chucky, these people gained military experience and now they had to be given something. Ditto to the various colonial chiefs whose contributions were exacted and they wanted payback. One of them was a Hussein Onyango Obama from Kenya. Without Chucky we would never have heard about Obama.
That’s just one of the impact of Chucky’s F*ckup, probably the greatest f*ckup in the history of mankind. The talents and peoples dead during the Great War were never made up, and Asians, who are born with conformity, began to creep into STEM which led to much less innovation.
Norman mentioned Japan. Japan was like Turkey before the Great War, but since the Japanese were not fighting in Europe (they seized some German settlements in China and that’s all the fight it did during the Great War) they provided most of the merchant ships to the Entente and by the end of the war Japan’s naval power was #3 in the world.
Without the Great War being much prolonged thanks to Chucky, Japan would have remained as a regional power and not really matter too much in the international scene.
Not spending too much resources for the poorer people and the people who live in Asia and Africa would have saved a lot of resources for the future activities, instead of wasting all these irreplaceable resources so the peoples who don’t really advance civilization (including post-Revolution Soviets, again thanks to Chucky) could live better for one century.
Oh dear! Me cajoling Acheans. Stupid me!
Maybe Tptb are predisposed to slaughter.
I’m thinking Fitz was like U Grant in that without his gung ho the usCivil stalemates. (Borges had a predilection for the south) .Carl Sagan speculated that if the Ionian Greeks hadn’t of petered out civilization might have sped forward much faster. But maybe different paths lead to the same overall outcome??
Interesting stuff that makes my plebe brain short circuit.
Were worchester 200 aristocrats?
This is the Italian band of the moment.
Nothing on the external side with inside nothing, while miming actions that now are without meaning which were already meaningless in the ’70s, when they were typical.
(please see the video)
https://www.iltempo.it/personaggi/2022/12/18/news/maneskin-spaccano-strumenti-chitarra-basso-batteria-palco-concerto-las-vegas-massacrati-social-34257172/
The flashing lights together with loud sounds would cause problems from some people, I would think.
Yes, it is true.
If we add use of drugs (light of heavy, whatever), very-high-volume-music heard during concert and on headphones and hypnotic smart phones touched every few seconds, I’m surprised if they can still perform simple reasoning.
Not only already meaningless in the 70’s but already mocked.
“I gave my amp a cherry…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_hCqO6UQs
But Maneskin certainly ain’t no Disaster Area.
The key to making this cultural alteration is to come up with a limitless supply of cheap energy. Hubbert feels the answer is obvious–solar power. A statement made by king Hibbert the elders listened to him and look what has happened.
I thought Hubbert was putting his bet on nuclear
….so did I
While I’m here…. It’s obvious things are bogged down on OFW, at least in the comments. Everyone in their silo, thinking they’re right.
Let us all figure out what is untrue, what’s left over will be the truth…. Whether we like it or not.
It’s the lies that are used to control, not the opposite.
Short YT on Denis Rancourt here:
Large article in politico:
Oil industry faces end of the road in California regardless of Newsom penalty on profits
The US withdraws from the Middle East and prepares for battle for Taiwan.
Dont they know what they are doing? Are they hitting the wall on purpose?
Or, do they know anything we don’t put into account?
Assumed, they know the vaxx would kill more people than thought, large productions for food, housing, car, clothing would not be needed.
Could the tumbling economies be secured by war economy?
If in large areas like 30% of the people would vanish or more what effect would that have on infrastructure and supply chains? On the workforce? On the powerbalance between states? Between WEF and states? Between governments and citizens? On the provision of public services and a basic juridical system to maintain property laws?
A large war would need tons of oil that cannot be spend on domestic use. Are we talking about saving programmes?
The Californian Big Tech companies are providing public services and control for many countries, that would be essential to the war effort.
Is there any strategy I am too dump to see? Or are we talking about kids playing in the sandbox?
Any suggestions?
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/17/oil-industry-confronts-a-growing-threat-newsoms-california-00074434
the makers of wartoys need wars
the end of a gunsight is the limit of their vision
we’ve contributed to turning the planet into a cash asset—it isn’t going to end well
Yes, I think if you have an agenda you need to involve a lot of people and they only get involved with a win-win-solution. One for sure is money, another is desires like sex, another religious fanatism. But if you think of something like a large war you need strong reason. We all know how far you come with accused weapons of mass destruction. Still not a large war.
So I guess it is oil. It may be made up. Perhaps oil regrows under your house and you just need to pump it up. But I dont believe Gail is making this up. Is Gail herself a victim?
Let’s say it like this: We have a well founded hypothesis which leads to theoretical consequences and some of these consequences have already come into existence like the finance crisis 2005.
Of course a hypothesis is only a hypothesis and humans may fail. That’s okay.
If we follow this hypothesis and that’s what Gail is not telling you, if we follow the idea that the easy to extract oil is extracted first and that a lot of national and regional sources are being depleted – there are a lot of independend data to tell you not to talk about developments in your own area – if this is right, then easy to extract oil must concentrate on a few regions only.
Those are in my eyes:
1. Saudian peninsula
2. Iran/Irak
3. Venezuela
4. Caspian Sea
In the moment demand exceeds supply and it becomes a seller’s market, the producing countries will decide who gets the oil. They are currently forming the BRICSS (Brasil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Saudi-Arabia) and want to sell primarily to each other.
To make a war it is needed oil. The USA or Europe cannot force the oil countries to sell them oil as they cannot threaten them with war. In the moment the USA starts war to Iran China – who is a contractor for Iranian oil – will join to save it’s resources. If you think this through the only possibility for NATO is a world war.
If the US tries to get the Venezuelan oil, Putin will help Venezuela and NATO has a problem in Europe. If they try to get the Caspian oil (Georgia and Aserbaijan are already associated with the EU), Russia starts war about Black Sea hegemony, which is necessary to transport oil. If the US is making business with the Saudis the Chinese jump in.
My hypothesis: There is a REAL problem with oil and the West tries to secure their share. This is only possible in a world war.
Now, if I remember right, you and I are followers of the idea people could live peacefully doing gardening and low tech. I do think that will be the future. I dont think mankind gets extinct so easily!
The problem is: If GB or Europe or the US would develop to low tech agrarian states with little oil Russia would be able to dominate them. Because Russia still has oil and can buy all knowhow of the world to produce high tech. It is a military problem. It is a REAL problem.
Perhaps it could have been avoided. Putin had suggested to join EU. But – what about the US in that case?
If you enter war you have the idea to have a realistic chance to win. If you wanna win the war has to start soon before the damage caused by the lack of oil is too large. I think the Corona pandemic could have been an instrument to save time for preparation.
The big problem is that turning the states into self-sufficiency would take time, at least 7 years.
We are loosing time for preparations. And if the war is lost we will have even more problems. It is an all or nothing game.
your hypotheses need a little correction Jan
as to covid being an ‘instrument’ of some kind—imagine an instrument by all means, but at the same time you must imagine an ‘instrument’ with absolutely no control factor whatsoever.
this is the bit the conspiraholics choose to ignore.
release a virus to put down we plebs and ‘reduce demand’—ok
but viruses aren’t fussy, and they mutate in ways that can’t be programmed–they take out the elite as well as we great unwashed.
and when the pop has been reduced by 90%—i’m afraid our world will just cease to function—literally stop—for rich and poor alike.
Most inconvenient for the conspironuts. They like to yell at me about that—as if its my fault.
But lets stick with it, for the sake of conspiromania.
90% of us gone—great. We would miss eddy–but hardly anyone else.
Oil stays in the ground—the elite own the oil. Hooray–their wealth is intact. Their world will go on for 000s of years as a private playground.
Er—no it won’t.
Oil has no value until it is extracted, taken away and used/burned. Stuck in the ground it is worth nothing. Same applies to any resource you care to name.
Without we masses to do the burning, oil cannot be used and converted into wealth. Hence the ‘wealthy elite’ will quickly become as poor as the rest of us.
Then we run into the real problem:
Which isn’t ‘shortage of oil’—it’s affording to use it. When oil was $10 a barrel we built an industrial / economic society on the surplus part of that energy output. (19th/20th c)
That surplus is no longer available, which is the basic reason for societal collapse we are seeing happening right now.
We pulled off the neat trick of converting (cheap) oil into food.
But oil is no longer cheap—and now the cost of food is catching up with us, doubling and doubling again.
Ah–its the ‘elite’ starving us out. Making us use foodbanks.
Nope–we can’t afford to eat oil anymore.—sorry if that punctures a few conspiroballoons–but there it is.
Covid and its vaccines are both instruments to reduce the population. The vaccines magnify the effect of the covid to kill people. The vaccines also reduce fertility. If the goal is to reduce population, the system works.
Whether the elite can be protected from this is iffy. But if the goal is simply to reduce population, it works.
Oil and energy products are inadequate for current population. Reducing population somehow may help the situation, especially if the old and sickly are targeted.
It comes down to who owns/controls the farm land, the hydro-power, the fishing rights, the wood lots. There will still be wealth. It will require using low class humans to work the land/resources. The local lord sitting in his great hall stuffing his face with food and strong drink while well heated by a roaring fire and guarded by local sheriffs will be rich.
i must disagree Gail–and offer an explanation why.
and re iterate my comment to Jan. (as is)
virus control isn’t just ‘iffy’—it can’t be done. This is where your complete ‘depopulation by intent’ theory collapses. A virus gets out into the community, runs its course and dies back–just as is happening now. China has gone a bit weird, but that will settle in due course.
an ‘instrument’ is defined as being under someone’s control.
It would have meant some ‘secret’ vaccination process, restricted to certain ‘elites’. —where in order to function, would have required the conspiratorial silence of literally millions of ‘rich’ individuals.—again, it can’t be done, given human nature.
That is where it falls down–how rich is rich? Who is on the ‘saved’ list? Who decides if Musk is worth saving? Imagine Musk keeping his mouth shut. Or Trump. That would be a first.
If people were to be ‘vaccinated in secret’—then there has to be a secret cabal of deciders..who’s in and who isn’t…..—you see the labyrinth we create?—just can’t work.
Rather like some other conspiracies put forward in the past
This is norm being sour grapes.
More Boosters norm – 100% effective at stopping covid – right? right?
Or maybe an egalitarian anarcho-syndicalist commune.
Response to Ed
a human, low class or not, requires 2500 cal a day to deliver useful work.
below that he will die of overwork–which makes the exercise pointless
slavery–which is what you are advocating, requires the sun to do most of the actual energy input.
which restricts economically viable slavery to hot latitudes–eg sugar cane production.
keep a slave in the northern prairies, (for example) and he will only be able to do useful manual work outside for half the year–but has to be fed for the whole year.
so there will not be enough ”surplus” to keep the lord and retainers in comfort.
Yes, Gail, well stated: one aspect of this crisis really is as simple as that.
From a certain, rather diabolical, point of view an indirect – and deniable – method of population reduction has many attractions.
Above all in formerly high-consumption regions.
We also see attempts to normalise euthanasia, no doubt to help along all those who are merely injured and not killed outright.
Recall the Trudeau leak (all of which did transpire)… the leaker said he’s never seen so much push back at a meeting — Trudeau responded with … this is what is necessary … and it has been decided … we are not hear to discuss or debate… we need you to execute.
Whatever they are up to — whether it is UEP or a Cull — it is indeed necessary — and nothing will -or should- stop them.
8B is too many. Way too many. Cheap energy is not infinite.
Something needed to be done.
Something is being done.
If you were intelligent enough to reject the injection — there may be lifeboats – and if there are you get s spot.
There is a glimmer of hope where once there was only darkness.
As for the Pro Vaxxers — or those who caved and shot the rat juice to keep a job …. we told you so.
WE… told you… so.
I’ll be first to do this and get a selfie! Will mobile phones still work though?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c5/10/34/c51034b72ea3180a06f7809efc996d99.gif
I fully agree Gail.
With corollary aspects that the so called new mRNA ‘vaccines’ have helped to create extremely high profits in a very difficult financial period and also have given the possibility to test, at high speed and on unaware (obnubilate) people, a completely new drug platform (mRNA jabs), which will be better put in place in the coming months and years for other health purposes.
Therefore we can say:
”Dear Guinea Pigs Friends, you are getting chronically sick or dying like flies for very good purposes. Your deaths will be useful to us. Maybe we will solve cancer or Parkinson (or have better treatments) by 2030-2050. Thanks.
Greetings from our Labs”.
Gail, I have to disagree on the “virus” part of the democide. If you look at the CDC, the flu disappeared in 2020; it was all “covid.” The real reason people died inn 2020 was because early treatment was denied and MD’s that offered early treatment were kicked out of hospitals and many lost certifications and/or medical licenses. One ended up suspended and forced to take a psych eval because she wrote script for Ivermectin.
If the lack of early treatment didn’t kill you then the hospital protocols surely would. Remdesivir has been nicked named by some insider medical workers as “run death is near.” The two clinical trials on Remdesivir before EUA in 2020 were a disaster for the test subjects, caused up to a 54% death rate. They stopped the Remdesivir trials.
For sure the experimental gene therapy/modification is a depopulation intervention shot. The stats are frightening, the plummet in live births a proverbial nightmare. And what unlikely heroes to this story: Embalmers and Insurance Execs – about as normie as you can get right?
Have you heard about the Insurance Collaboration to Save Lives? The group was represented by a former insurance exec at Senator Johnson’s Roundtable discussion, where not a single public health official attended.
The old remember simpler times. Good experience to keep around. Pandemic-related illness are rife, affecting young as well as old. A revolution in health care can spring from care of the elderly. It could include not scaring away nurses, as well as recruiting a lot of (med) student volunteers.
Good grief Gail, Have you fallen for the conspiriholics memes??
“Covid and its vaccines are both instruments to reduce the population.”
No wonder they get such a good run here. You have obviously never worked with the top level of Govt to make such claims, like all conspiriholics.
Government runs much closer to the ‘Yes Minister’ form than any conspiriholic theme. It’s like a bunch of headless chooks running around, each with their own ideas or agendas, but the first encountered problem sends them into panic mode of butt covering.
Nothing ever goes smoothly or according to the original plan, so any type of worldwide con.spiracy is just nonsense that gets promoted by those that know nothing about higher authority really works.
It’s you and norm against the world. First see if you can put your great minds together and try tying your left shoe lace.
thanks hideaway
we need more like you to state the bleedin obvious
Attacking our host… whilst not providing any supporting facts…
Which exposes both of you for what you are.
eddy
i do not abuse our host’s hospitality with a stream of faux obscenities in the hope that what i have to say will be noticed
https://youtu.be/9-Ho734fo2U?t=92
Sooo. EEEe.
the very height of intellectual response eddy
i expected no less
I think that was the episode that the Elders watched when they decided… enough…
Let’s launch UEP.
Jerry is much better than Black Mirror – supposedly that’s all real
“Or maybe an egalitarian anarcho-syndicalist commune.”
Isn’t that adorable?
“We” know a few things for sure.
The sexual dimorphism and psychosocial tendencies of the Rapacious Primate ultimately maximizes unfair advantage, which signifies a departure from evolutionary process. I.e. devolution.
Aaand, it’s all GONE!
Fire, water or wind.
Make your pick.
Game over…
Try again (Y/N)
*N*
FU!
One simply can’t strap on a massive neocortex onto a crusty primate baseline. It’s going to chimp out into unfettered monkey business of tryhard and MOARonities no matter what the starting conditions are.
I.e. the wheel of folly perpetually spinning aimlessly in a genetic quagmire of a primates egotistical fantasies.
But by all means, prove me wrong.
Hideaway,
Respectfully, I remember you were dismissive of concerns over the pandemic response in the beginning but you have been quiet except for excellent commentary on energy related matters. In the case of the pandemic there is a clear chain of command and control to overcome chaos with strict treatment protocols, narrative control, pressure from medical boards and perverse hospital incentives. This approach took several attempts to achieve regulatory capture as we see with the Swine Flu pandemic declaration and vaccine. We have an archived piece from Michael Fumento in Forbes from 2010 recounting EU parliamentary watchdog group warning of malfeasance and direct quote from WHO Director General Chan regarding weaponizing the virus response to further the agenda of global health, economics and social justice. Also a now deleted EU Commission timetable for vaccine passports by 2021 and Bill Gates micro-managing the pandemic response through funding both media, reporting agencies and the medical research community.
So Hideaway is – like norm – vaxxed?
My condolences Hideaway… we regret to inform you that you are not a Chosen One.. and will therefore be Culled
tee hee
you’ve started using e’s instead of aitches and a’s eddy
well done
but someone has a different point of view???–then the lies kick off again
adults get to be adults because they can allow different opinions without a frenzy of lying hysteria eddy
it’s called ‘grown up’
you should try it sometime.
A different point of view that is not supported by facts or evidence … is Mental Illness.
So no – not allowed
Good points Replenish.
To add to your comment about the WHO, the below article is a good reminder.
https://www.aier.org/article/the-world-health-organization-in-2011-warned-against-a-culture-of-fear/
On the subject of treatment protocols, this is quite shocking and I’m sure hideaway will want to come out and explain what changed and why😉
“DARPA … the research arm of the US military, specifically knew, and specifically recommended, and passed the information on to the CDC, that ivermectin in particular was the absolute number one product to be used in the event of a coronavirus pandemic.”
https://twitter.com/ZombyWoof2022/status/1603035141164748800?s=20&t=_57hM0e0cnW9KPwMCy4aDg
There’s a whole thread there with lots of information that for some reason no journalist in the west reported and that begs it’s own obvious questions (but not for some it seems).
Yes, they knew all along, which surely makes them murderers and anyone that goes along, accomplices.
I think the words of Martin Geddes sums up these people very well.
“To denigrate something as “conspiracy theory” without having fully investigated the data is an act of cowardice. You cause an affront to those who offer the possibility that harm is being done to innocent people, just to avoid confrontation with your own fears of it being true”.
Covid vaccines as a one-size fits all, time-released extinction protocol as cover to reduce population implies precision instrument and may be the wrong analogy depending on the intended outcome. This is the easiest straw man to debunk and a favorite target if you ignore all the other evidence of malfeasance.
We know the campaign had messaging to capture different demographics and to many it looks like obvious gaslighting and misinformation to scare away skeptics and stir up controversy.
Let’s check with nature. Casting nets with different size holes.. smaller holes catch a lot of smaller fish including weak specimens and undesirable species but means big profit over large population sample. However, nets with smaller holes will be visible to keen eyed species (critical thinkers). Larger holes will be harder to see and catch larger fish but less frequently implying prey that requires a larger energy footprint. We have important people falling prey to adverse events (Eric Clapton) which garners negative media attention. 100’s of thousands of little fish are reporting adverse events.
If the same fishermen casting the nets and counting the fish are under duress from the fish commission, reporting and funding agencies and politicians then it would be easy to conceal adverse events if a regulatory body is setting protocols for the industry. Individual “fish” lack true advocates and simply fill out blanket report of adverse events to fish wardens. Like a good-ole boy network, Wardens receive letters from the fish commission that they could lose their job if they report bad news. Politicians depend on the fish commission to provide rosy data on conservation and bag limits to get re-elected.
Gail has explained this in terms of energy and complexity very clearly. I think the problem is the same for those struggling to identify or communicate the problem as it is for those who deny the problem exists.. respecting free will to choose, the size of the hole you can swim through and your willingness to admit that you were captured by the net.
lol
i would hardly put Eric Clapton in the realms of elite/
unless ive missed an important thread in this–there is only one ‘important outcome’ in this particular context
for some reason like an unflushed toilet—it wont go away—and that is, to get rid of ‘us’
ive pointed out why a depopulated world cannot function–weird.
last time the world had a population of less that 1 bn was around 1600.
that is the economic level we will find ourselves at–elite or serf.
The intended outcome is lost to us at the present moment but the messaging and data are a red flag. If the data shines an unfavorable light on the official narrative whether it be proven energy reserves, promises of growth or vaccine efficacy and a structural issue keeps people in the dark then there is a problem. The perspective I shared is an analogy on how to approach the problem as a skeptic caught in a net or to reach out to those caught in the net but unable to admit they are caught in a net.
The agenda supports both the greenies and military (conserve oil ;even if this isn’t really true)
The complexity obfuscates the reality.
On paper CA solar could charge EV’s during the day but there would be major snags trying to ramp up this scenario.
Like total oil production would continue to slide changing all the variables. Like building up the grid.
Like still needing base power.
Like mineral & supply chain shortages
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Doesn’t matter – if CNNBBC says it’s possible – it’s possible.
zombies do not question CNNBBC…
When you consider that the vast majority are zombies… even most of the anti vax community are zombies — they have not fallen for the Safe and Effective PR .. but they fall for just about every other spin thrown at them including ‘it’s all about making money’… or ‘it’s all about control’…
If they are told it’s all about the end of cheap energy they lose their shit – just like the vax zealots do if you suggest the rat juice is dangerous…
We ask – how is it they can inject babies with the rat juice — what kind of monsters do this?
Let’s be blunt – if you believe most people are zombies… then isn’t injecting the zombie babies with rat juice the same as crushing baby cockroaches under your boot?
Well isn’t it???
This is what norm thinks – exactly what norm thinks… um – but if you are vaxxed and wearing a mask — why would you care what I do? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60339
Except that it is the vaccinated who are the big spreaders. They don’t even necessarily realize that they are sick.
Was speaking to a Double Jabber today (forced by work)… about the spin instructor at the local gym who suffered a stroke mid class… she is the third instructor in the gym to experience an injury — one has myocarditis — another experience seizures
Double Jabber told me that since the 2nd Rat Juice… he’s not felt the same… just doesn’t feel right … lacking energy .. he was always an early riser waking at 6am but now he often needs an alarm to get up to go to work.
How many other Jabbers – particularly the boosted — are ‘not feeling right’ … but saying nothing.
Come on norm .. fess up
Working: Are The Clots We Are Seeing Ocurring Because The Spike Protein Is Turning All It Touches Into Tumor Microenvironment?
Small ‘fibrin clots’ are chiefly found in tumor vasculature and interstitial space.
https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/working-are-the-clots-we-are-seeing
Doesn’t sound good!
I recall attending a masters hockey tournament soon after the rat juice rolled out in NZ…. there was a vax zealot who I’d never met on the team — apparently used to live in QT….
Team meeting he raises the issue of who is and isn’t vaxxed… I say nothing … someone outs me thinking it’s funny I guess… the guy starts to lecture me .. I say nothing .. when he finishes I says … I’m planning to get the injection when the long term studies come out. He says nothing.
He later apologized for the lecturing – it’s just that he wants everyone to be well and not die from covid.
We are starting to see the beginning of the long term studies….
I imagine he’s still rat juicing…. once a zealot always a zealot.
“I’m planning to get the injection when the long term studies come out.”
No, you’re not.
And you know for sure what went into each of those batches? I’m sure some of those vials contained seriously gnarly compounds, while others mostly colored saline.
So, long term studies of exactly what?
🤷♂️
One must ask – if the purpose is $$$$ — why not fill them all with saline?
I suspect what’s happened is that quality control was not possible — and some batches got more of the mrna or whatever other shit is mixed in … and caused injuries…
The injuries are not the end game — the leaky vaccines being rammed into billions during a pandemic is the end game…
The Bossche Mutation will be the End Game
China is ramping it up (again) https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/thermonuclear-bad-psy-op-from-china
“the leaky vaccines being rammed into billions during a pandemic is the end game… ”
There is a rather large problem with that hypothesis Eddy.
There has been no pandemic.
Doesn’t matter how often they say there has, the evidence speaks otherwise, so your left with only one problem, the injections, that people keep incorrectly refering to as vaccines.
And that’s why there’s another wave pounding through Queenstown and businesses are massively short of staff?
One of our munchkins said this week they had to turn away patrons even though they were nowhere near full — because they don’t have staff … multiple people are off with Covid (they have to take a week leave)
Of course there is no such thing as sickness… it’s just your body healing.
Funny how body healing is so contagious!
That just sounds like you have a lot of people that have put some dubious substance in their bodies and it’s causing them problems. Who’d have guessed(well, anyone that bothered to look).
Still no pandemic.
Collapse will be here long before any pandemic gets out of bed, so forget Van Bullshit man and watch the cognitive disintegration as it happens. It’s live, everywhere in the western world so you can’t miss it(you’ll obviously have to go out though. Sorry about that).
I’ll repeat for those that still haven’t worked it out. There isn’t and hasn’t been this century, a single pandemic outside of the medias pandemic of lies.
The substances makes them exhibit the symptom of what we call the flu – cough – headache – body ache — feeling of malaise…
Could be that they drank some bad water — or maybe they have a substance called a virus causing this?
Can you provide more details of the substance you are referring to? Might it be a cosmic ray?
If you want details of the substance, you’d have to ask Pfizer or DARPA, but they don’t seem willing to share for some reason(their track record should provide enough info for you to make an educated guess).
There is no pandemic. How after nearly 3 years this isn’t obvious to all, I can’t fathom. Something in the water maybe, or just constant repetition on the screen?
A real pandemic does not need the constant changing of definitions to suit and certainly doesn’t require a rewriting of how to record deaths. Did no one notice this at the very beginning of the thing that never was?
A perusal of the laws that have been changed, whilst everyone fell for the old “oh look a squirrel” might be quite an enlightening experience for most.
Van Bullshit man.lol 🙂
It’s funny, little Eddy didn’t even realize that, by substance, you meant the rat juice. You got him all turned around.
Eddy, you’re strawmanning the terrain. There IS disease, and there’s healing from that disease. The building disease that preexists the healing symptomology is more or less invisible to our conscious mind depending on how health-conscious we are, and the healing is the unpleasant symptomology that allopathy wrongly regards as the disease itself.
I recognize that repetition is important to learning but this really is a simple concept so maybe you could tell us that you understand now so that we won’t have to have this misunderstanding again.
The disease is the healing .. therefore the disease is good.
Is that correct?
No, the disease is the underlying inflammation/stress/trauma. It’s largely an unconscious process. The conscious symptoms (symptomology), when they arrive, herald the healing, because part of healing is conscious behavior modification, because it was the previous behavior that caused the disease.
The symptoms are not the disease. The disease is maladapted behavior that traumatizes the body.
Can you provide scientific evidence for this?
BTW – I know expats in Bali who believe traditional ‘healers’ can heal… the last time I was there one guy I know was telling me how he had found a healer who uses a spoon in his healing process.
The scientific evidence is the same as the mainstream evidence, minus the germ theory. Because germ theory is unscientific.
Inflammation (symptoms) is the scientific evidence of healing. Antibodies, white blood cells, swelling, heat, whatever – these are all mainstream acknowledged healing functions. The liver and kidneys as filtering organs, to filter out toxins. That’s mainstream science.
But nobody can explain the contagion part using the terrain theory …
Applying logic and one can understand how a ‘virus’ or some sort of particle — could be passed from one person to another infecting them.
Obviously not everyone gets infected because some have better immune systems
Would you allow me to inject you with HIV or any other ‘virus’ of my choice?
How about many viruses.
Let me first get a few blood samples from Super Snatch…
I’ve explained it to you numerous times before. You weren’t listening, or ready to listen. Viruses are exosomes. Exosomes are signaling mechanisms. Some of them signal for healing functions. If someone with a ‘flu’ is making tons of ‘flu’ healing/detoxification exosomes in order to coordinate the detox across the trillions of cells in the body, the secondary function of that exosomal production is that shitlofd of those exosomes leave the body and enter other bodies, because everyone is connected by horizontal gene transfer. If the person who receives bunch of those ‘flu’healing signals from someone else is close to being in need of a seasonal detox then their body may well decide to go ahead and do it, as catalyzed by the other person. That’s ‘contagion,’ or in truth, coordinated healings of highly social mammals.
Germ Theory is the theory that can’t explain itself. Germ Theory has to rely on Terrain theory to explain why people can be exposed to ‘viruses’ but don’t get sick lol.
Ya but there’s no evidence supporting this …
I actually think there are aliens who visit humans when they are sleeping and fornicate them .. these aliens are filled with all sorts of stuff that causes us to get diseases after the fornication.
I have no evidence for this either — but it makes sense to me.
Of course there is. All the evidence is there. We know that exosomes travel from one person to another, and enter and exit cells. We know that they’re made of RNA and DNA. We know what genes are for.
There’s no evidence for ‘viruses’ hijacking cells. None. You refuse to acknowledge your own germ theory make-believe while you ignore biological Reason.
Whistleblower US soldiers expose the truth of the jab mandate.
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43223
https://rumble.com/v20vsxs-unvaccinated-whistleblower-soldiers-expose-the-truth-about-bidens-vaccine-m.html
I am 98% certain these Antifa people are paid actors https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43226
Oh no … fresh hell
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/parramatta/tianne-miller-to-remain-in-jail-for-online-child-grooming-offences/news-story/6cd78c40c381559e7cc2dc9f86dcfb4a
Peru https://t.me/leaklive/10818 22 dead. Funny we never get clips like this from Ukraine
Jordan https://t.me/leaklive/10819
Why don’ they just do what Sri Lanka did and fix it?
Is this … the end of Crypto?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/binance-the-worlds-biggest-crypto-exchange-is-now-under-intense-scrutiny-after-the-ftx-debacle-here-are-5-things-you-need-to-know/ar-AA15p0pm
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/16/binance-auditor-mazars-withdraws-from-working-with-cryptocurrency-exchange
And now this:
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60279
hahahaha… this is a nice hit … I feel much better now … but this will only last for about 15 minutes
I’m feeling a bit down after taking two super hits of Vax Damage Stories this morning… two really good hits…
I think I’m getting addicted to this … each story triggers the release of a massive dose of dopamine …
If anyone has any good Vax Damage stories… I really need another hit to pick me up … I feel dreadful at the moment …
Fast Eddy, I think you’re a real softie underneath and that you are horrified at the democide and you really don’t want to witness it and you’re outlandish comments are a cover for your bleeding heart. Just imagine, we’re all suffering from bleeding hearts, eh?
No I really do enjoy a good vax injury… I like the shocking nature of this … the absurdity of a healthy fit person being hit by a heart attack or stroke — and the bewildered reactions.
Priceless stuff.
Australia excess mortality in.
18%
If you are waiting for regulators dont hold your breath.
These are not pharmaceutical products.
These are DOD contract substances.
These substances are not regulated.
These substances are not administered they are deployed.
Who is going to buck the DOD?
See any swamp creatures stepping up?
Which law enforcement agency is stepping up?
They just approved the bivalant injection at six months.
If these substances were pharmaceutical products they would have been stopped in Jan 2021. They are not pharmaceutical products they are DOD contract substances and the regulatory agencies have no jurisdiction.
Oh the regulators will step in soon?
They just approved the bivalant injection for children at six months.
They didnt step in in Jan 21.
Thy are not stepping in now.
There is no one to step in.
Deployment of DOD contract substances manufactured under the operation warp speed process is the new normal.
The experimentation will accelerate very soon with new DOD contract substances with claims of disease prevention. Everything gets rubber stamped now just like Bivalent. ITS THE NEW NORMAL.
Lipid nanoparticles were developed to cross body barriers to deliver chemo therapy to the brain. Their express purpouse is to cross body barriers. We were told the injections stay in the muscle. How could the people making the statement “stays in the muscle” possibly believe that when a key ingredient of the injections express purpose is to transport payloads across body barriers? The spike protein is transported to every part of the body. Blood, brain. reproductive. You think the “regulators” didnt know what lipid nano particles purpose is? You think the “manufacturers” included it in the injections for no reason?
There is no calvary. No one is going to step in. As LT COL DR Theresa Long testified.
Your child dies from these injections. Your child is disabled. You are disabled.
YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
THERE IS NO CALVARY. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW BECAUSE THERE IS NO CALVARY FOR DOD CONTRACT SUBSTANCES MANUFACTURED UNDER OPERATION WARP SPEED. THESE SUBSTANCES ARE NOT REGULATED. THE INJECTIONS ARE NOT PHARMACEUTICAL PRODUCTS. THE LEGAL STRUCTURE FOR DOD DEPLOYMENT OF CONTRACT ITEMS IS WELL ESTABLISHED AND ROBUST. THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN. THERE IS NO MECHANISM FOR “GOING BACK”.
The same approval for vaxxing babies of 6 months was granted in the UK (did you note that Norman, just as I predicted lat year?) and I believe the EU: this goes much deeper and much, much wider than that corrupt and murderous organisation, the US DoD.
The head of AZ was just knighted by King Charles: armaments manufacturers have always been near the head of the list for knighthoods here, and indirectly this confirms the vaxxes are bioweapons, does it not?
This creature told the press that injuries had been ‘overblown’ and his team had ‘saved the lives of millions’. Based on nonsense models of likely Covid mortality of course.
Does King Charles know about the genocide? I doubt it: they’ve hooked him in with the Green agenda, planting trees, etc. He is probably safe: for the time being they need such figureheads to preserve the illusion od normality.
Meanwhile the UK population is 68 million and the world population reached a new record of 8 billion a couple of months ago.
When exactly is this depopulation plan supposed to start working?
When the leaky vaccines that continue to be deployed into a pandemic — generate the lethal mutation.
Be patient.
Why else would they continue to deploy a leaky vaccine during a pandemic knowing that this is a risk?
Consider Covid is no more dangerous than a bad flu — the vax does not stop the spread – nor does it stop hospitalizations or death.
I ask again – what other purpose other than trying to exterminate
If you want to see, Withnail, read the industry journals for pilots, military personnel, insurance, funeral homes, and take a look at VAERS – I mean wasn’t it intended to serve as a safety signal? Don’t we spend millions of dollars maintaining the VAERS site? Isn’t VAERS part of the Childhood Vaccine Injury Act?
If we’re not going to pay attention to VAERS then why the Sam Hell do we even have a VAERS? What’s the effing point?
Not sure how much more obvious this can be… people can bury their heads in the sand and believe whatever they want if it makes them feel better…
But this is an extermination program. It is… an extermination.
The evidence screams extermination.
But nobody wants to believe that — nobody wants to accept that — the PR Team knows that … that’s why they deny deny deny … because the mob will believe anything … no matter how absurd…
Because the mob does not want to believe this is about extermination.
The mob will continue to boost because to do otherwise would be to acknowledge something is not right … and that would allow thoughts of extermination to creep in … and that would lead to madness…
So they boost… to boost is like a child walking through the graveyard repeating I am not afraid .. I am not afraid… I am not afraid… to stop boosting would be to invite the darkness… the horror…. The Horror
https://www.pymovie.tv/media/noticias/2019/04/24/quien-es-el-objetivo-del-rey-de-la-noche-en-juego-de-tronos-min.jpg
How do you feel when your brother was a player in the vax roll-out and he dies at 35… no doubt he had a heart attack… as it appears to be Sudden.
Surely you gotta suspect the vax… surely….
Who wants to ask him? https://www.facebook.com/BradExton
Hey norm — i just PMed this guy with ‘my condolences – he was doing such a great job as director of covid response at parliament – he will sorely missed.’
https://www.facebook.com/BradExton
hahahaha…. That’s kinda like messaging Mengele’s brother upon his death right?
Keep in mind – his brother is the architect of much death and suffering in other families…
So like… F789 Him.
Where’s dunc?
i think my word anvil has seen a little worthy smithing eddy–those who’s words i respect have told me so. (after suitable remuneration of course).
but you are quite correct about hammering anything in RL—am a menace with tools (nothing sharper than a pen)
thick skulls of course require an entirely different toolkit–luckily I am well equipped for such essential projects.
Right now I am preparing a (RL) lecture on human evolution.
I thought I might include you as an example of a dead end. (with your permission of course). Let me know.
You should hear what OFWers think about you behind your back norm….
They can’t get enough of FE bashing you…
eddy—a quiet word if i may
over time, i have been priveleged to be invited onto online zoom discussion groups consisting of OFW members. (real, not as some eddyfantasy)
subjects were many and various.—as you might imagine.
i cannot break confidence in things said about your antics, in the brief interludes when your name (and a few others) came up.
sufficient to say, that they provided more than sufficient reasons as to why you were not invited to contribute at the time—or since.
A safe space for Norm. That is so sweet.
come now lastcall
sitting on your perch, and parroting your mentor leaves only droppings on the cage floor.
—do at least spare a thought for the person who has to change the newspaper.
Or maybe come up with something original?
Sounds interesting!
If I look around I come to the idea there hasn’t been any. Or we are developing backwards. Could be my daily arrogance, though.
Suharit Bhakdi expects that the vax leads in a lot of cases to a necrotising encephalitis. This means that the outer parts keeping memory (learned information, personality, ligical thinking) are affected first. Bhakdi talkes about “Zombies”.
There has been one case proven. In a lot of cases it would be hard to diagnose without autopsy. Private information of psychiatrist could add to this idea.
We don’t know at this moment, how many jabs actually contained effective mRNA.
I also want to recall the esoteric idea that the vax is a selection program. It is said that ice age selected a specific gene set that helped human survival. The idea is the shots selected this same gene set in that way that those who carry the ice age gene set did not take the jab and now havea selection advantage.
https://rumble.com/v1qhs6k-cv19-vax-destroys-hearts-and-brains-of-billions-of-people-dr-sucharit-bhakd.html
the vax hasn’t been a ‘selection program’ Jan.
it was a knee jerk reaction by people who had no more idea of what to do about it than you or I.
what it has done is to gave a voice to every crackpot with access to social media, to spread every theory imaginable, with the certainty that it will be picked up and spread x00000.
Those ‘spreaders’ have no voice in the real world.
Social media is their only means of attracting attention.
They are as irrelevant as a bell that keeps ringing even after someone has stolen the clapper and sold it for scrap.
Again you argue from a false premise: social media = loony theories. .
The truth can spread through social media, Norman, and around the whole globe, as much as false ideas.
The paid ‘journalists’ in the MSM are not logically more trustworthy than those writing on Substack, for example, who often do it for nothing.
But it will not ever penetrate dull, self-satisfied, deliberately ill-informed mind such as you possess, and demonstrate with almost every post.
from your summit of wisdom Xabier….do feel free to explain the 1921 epidemic, which had similar reactions in humans as this one, killed 50m people out of world pop of 2 bn–hence knee jerk reaction in 2021.
there was no question then of the ‘elders/elites’ trying to bump off 90% of humankind
Now we have mass social media through which people can spread ‘truth’—which asserts that the above is now true.
How”’why”?????
because millions of keyboard warriors such as yourself say that it is—and can prove it by quoting millions of others who repeat the same rubbish.
I don’t need to refer to anyone else
Just logic—i’ve explain numerous times how a ‘depleted world’ would simply cease to function. If that conflicts with your preset ideas—fine.
but at least allow the elites sufficient intelligence to arrive at the same conclusions as me, without my input.
Luckily–others seem to disagree with your crit of my posts…
maybe i should get myself a mentor–can you recommend one?
Norman, your argument regarding social media is sheer nonsense.
Scientists and doctors of real calibre and integrity have been driven off both the MSM and the govt-controlled sections of social media onto sites which you would identify as the fringe habitat of loonies.
Has it escaped your notice that Twitter, YT and Facebook aggressively pushed the bat cave wet market propaganda line?
So much for your argument that contrary ideas are fuelled by the wicked phenomenon of social media absent a hundred years ago.
On social media, just as on TV or in the conventional press, lies have wings, but so does the truth.
The problem has always been that your belief in your own intelligence and sense exceeds your real mental capacity and education, and you are also – by choice – woefully ill-informed.
Most of your reasoning is in consequence based on demonstrably false premises and is pitiful to behold.
You live in a wretched little self-imposed ghetto of ignorance: and as such are a lesson to us all of the penalty of vanity and mental laziness.
You live in a wretched little self-imposed ghetto of ignorance: and as such are a lesson to us all of the penalty of vanity and mental laziness.
World class…
Watch for norm’s feeble response…
Check it out — there’s norm’s photo next to the definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
One thing the people that had no idea of anything was pretty clear:
Finance any Frankenstein that could come up with a project to mess up any genetic information we possibly have on this planet to make some, well, little money.
One thing the people that had no idea of anything was pretty clear:
Finance DARPA for a military grade vaccination program well in advance for just in case we have it and finance DARPA and others to run a global military grade psychological operation for just in case.
One thing the people that had no idea of anything was pretty clear:
Censor every medical information that could show different paths forward besides vaccination.
One thing the people that had no idea of anything was pretty clear right after two weeks of vaccine application:
Censor all information about sudden and unexpected deaths.
And so on and so on.
Time to ask: should we leave more stuff to be handled by people that have just no idea about anything ?
Tough one, eh ?
your first paragraph is sufficient MM:
Finance any Frankenstein that could come up with a project to mess up any genetic information we possibly have on this planet.
Utterly Meaningless–so i dismissed the rest in the same vein.
Would your support of ‘social media’ be the same social media that absolutely assured me that 6 moon landings were faked?
Not just one–mind you–but 6?
Yes, utterly, repeat this line:
Utterly meaningless.
If i could just nail down this argument a bit better….
Splendidly put, MM.
If you repeat it enough you’ll actually believe it
Norm, the numbers don’t lie. They knew. This type of gene therapy has been around; it’s used in rare cases like cancer treatment. They knew the nanolipid particles are dangerous to the human system; they knew the mRNA did not stay in the muscle, they knew it breach the blood/brain barrier.
Have you read the patents for these mRNA gene therapies, since you can’t read the insert?
Facts don’t work with norm — he only trusts the BBCCNN.
and thats coming from a documented liar eddy—so you should know
more lying eddy?
one day you might get good at it—
and not leave a trail of evidence that documents it—in detail
attention seeking is not a good lifestyle
eddy
your attention seeking barefaced lying is documented and archived–
this is why i dismiss anything coming from you as bs
as Omar Khayyam put it:
The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.
if you want to be taken seriously eddy—you must get away from this compulsion to lie in order to boost your flagging self esteem.
it’s a well known human failing, but that doesnt reduce its repulsiveness to others,
I just watched that Del Bigtree Ryan Cole video – and he showed spike the brains of dead people who had been vaxxed.
And now I am interacting with someone who is experiencing that condition.
How fascinating is this!
anything emanating from your kb eddy
is dismissed as bs
i do like being correct
Wouldn’t that be fabulous if the vax was meant to filter out the feeble-minded CNNBBC zombies?
Never underestimate the Elders… the BAU Lite riddle may have been solved…
dunc – what do you think? Now that would be the mother of all backfires no? hahahaha
Who has the least uptake of experimental vaccine and is also best able to compete in a Low energy, Low tech future? Rural, working class, poor and people of color with homespun skills/know-how, direct experience with the pitfalls/cruelty of nature and prior poor treatment by academia and suburban and urban elites.
Who would be the target of a “deselection process” in a low tech, low energy future and also fall for vaccine uptake with clever messaging ie. appeal to authority, leftist-leaning/collectivist approach with promises of comprehensive technology solution and sustainable growth? City or suburban dweller with book knowledge who hires out all menial and skilled labor and hits the real world and colloquial wisdom with elitist mentality. Useless Class: Poor, working or lower managerial class rentiers without land, corporate employed with no choice but to comply under pressure and/or as a response to incentives.
The footage you never see from Ukraine … Peru — graphic https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43194
Now the funny stuff – caught being a pedo – prays to allah for help hahaha – of course Allah was a pedo too! https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43198
Terrible stuff https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43199
Intended Consequences: mRNA Vaccines were Designed to Cause Severe Disease and Be Resistant to Antibodies
Data published by spike protein inventors, Barney Graham & Jason McLellan, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were purposefully designed to not protect against SARS-CoV-2 or variants and cause disease
https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/intended-consequences-mrna-vaccines
The story is quite disturbing. People get upset when these problems with mRNA “vaccines” are covered up.
Nope, they don’t want to even see the evidence. Most are clueless but they would go haywire if they knew.
That article is from the beginning of the pandemic and it doesn’t seem anyone paid attention to it. If they didn’t invent them to prevent against cov-2 why did they invent them?
Per FDA meeting, not only do Pfizer’s COVID-19 mRNA vaccines NOT prevent severe disease, Pfizer’s mRNA vaccines cause SEVERE COVID-19.
This is why the 2 fda execs quit.(everyone knew it was a red flag)
It is astoundingly disturbing. And we’re still bombarded by those cheerful vax ads.
If it’s not on BBCCNN — they reject it.
Consider the same strategies to sell the MORE-ONS a pair of jeans were used to convince them to inject the rat juice — and they fell for them.
FOMO – being cool — being ‘in’… rewards .. cartoons… songs …etc…. look at how easy it is to control them… and they think they have free will.
hahaha.. look at you norm … run around by the nose back and forth to the clinic for your Safe and Effective shots…
Safe and Effective … straight out of a Madison Avenue Ad Agency hahaha… and norm didn’t work it out …
Oh and recall how they said 100% effective… come on bro — surely that should have been a red alert … what’s 100% effective other than a high powered bullet through the brain ….
That’s the problem with these one-dimension types… they trust and believe the govt + CNNBBC…. they are like lambs tossed into a cage with hungry wolves… they have zero defences…
I do hope this is about culling the feeble-minded… even better if as they are all lying sick and dying that the Elders emerge from behind the curtain and fill them in on UEP … and explain to them that it’s been nice knowing them but unfortunately the planet is finite — and they failed the test so they need to exit.
How good would that be?
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!!!!
This is poetry in motion!
The manager of Canada’s response to COVID has dropped dead at 35, without one word about it from the “free press” in that bio-fascist hell
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/the-manager-of-canadas-response-to
How good is that norm?
Rat Juiced hahahahahaha
Sweet oh so sweet
Almost as good as a world cupper dropping. Almost…
norm – what do you think happened to this poor fella?
Only 35 — prime of life – destined for big things…
DEAD. hahaha
I am exploding with joy
“Only 35 — prime of life – destined for big things…”
All that Tryhard for ‘nuffin and jabs for free.
🤭👍
He probably only had one or two boosters. If only he had three, this might have been averted.
He must have forgot to take the latest booster because his brain was not functioning properly due to spike infusions…
norm – you mentioned you’d only had 4 shots — the UK is on shot 6 — you need to get your ass down to the clinic now and tell them Fast Eddy said it’s ok to take 2 shots on the same day … take the first one then go have a donut and a coffee then go back and get the second
It’s Safe and Effective. Trust the Science.
It would have been worse without the rat juice. May have tipped over
Hopefully the fact that he did jab up means the other cult members are also true believers.
A ‘Go fund me’ page for Jabcinda to get her 3rd 4th and 5th would be a great opportunity to show our support!
Too quick and kind a death for such scum, surely?
CJD or confined to wheelchair for years would be preferable – although as things develop in Canada it might not be possible to put of the date with a suicide pod for very long…..
(FT + Forbes)
Goldman Sachs prepares to lay off almost 4,000 employees
https://www.ft.com/content/bfac6875-5256-4ec9-9286-3e1cc6596d31
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2022/12/16/goldman-sachs-reportedly-plans-laying-off-up-to-4000-employees/
I expect we will be seeing more layoffs.
Col. Macgregor gave a ‘must see’ interview earlier this week in the library of the Army & Navy club at W DC. It is long, so you may need to settle down and get comfortable. Maybe cast it to the TV and chill on the sofa with the headphones and a coffee.
He covers multiple related topical matters, including that the USA now has a failed geopolitical strategy while it now convinces itself otherwise with habitual pure fantasy narratives – which is something that I was saying several months ago.
It would be easy to assume that they are just lying because states normally lie in wars, but the situation is that they now believe their own lies and base their strategy on them. The USA state is collapsed into a weird disconnect from reality, which is playing out in UKR.
From a more fundamental perspective, it might be surmised that the balance of power and the energy flows of the global energetic structure are shifting away from the West and toward Eurasia and the Global South. Then, USA state narratives, failing geopolitical strategies, facilitate that, whether the USA state realises that or not.
In other words, the global energetic structure generates BS narratives, and behaviour, through which gullible humans maintain and reform it, just as the more local energetic structures, economic societies, do. The Col. does not go that deep, but his analysis of the weird situation is highly congruent with that reading.
> Dr Michael Vlahos interviews Col. Douglas Macgregor (MUST SEE!) / Ukraine – A Proxy War run on Denial and Deceit / Odessa falls and Ukraine becomes a landlocked country
I think that you are right. Groups start believing their own false narratives. We end up with something like parallel religions and parallel histories. Maybe parallel medical theories. Parallel scientific models. We live in a very strange world now!
I too fear the ruling class in the US believes their narrative. A narrative far removed from reality domestically and globally. I fear their belief is closer to a religious belief rather than a political belief. With religion facts and logic have no influence.
one of the deepest truths ever uttered on OFW Gail
nothing like an alternative fact!
Delusions, cognitive dissonance and derangement. I.e. primates egotistical fantasies causing civilizational collapse, amnesia and falsifications.
Just imagine trying to cover up some outrageous delusions, lies and at best half-truths with even more falsifications and fantasies.
🤣👍👍
Piles and piles of rubble with various derangements and delusions imprinted on the pieces strewn about in the junkyards of history.
Now; imagine entitled having the capability of tapping into the collective (sub) conscious of rapacious primates. I pity the AGI. Such a nightmare.
🤢🤮
It all leads to one place… mental illness… DelusiSTAN… mass delusion = mental illness.
A true shit show…
And they insist they want the truth hahahaha
A discussion of the amazing interview given by Ukrainian General Zalushny in which he defacto admits the Russians are going to dominate and win. It appears that perhaps negotiated settlement and the end to the horrific losses the Ukrainian army is suffering and the suffering of the Ukrainian people as well as a lessening of the chance of nuclear war might be at hand with a negotiated settlement. The sooner it occurs the sooner aid can be extended to Ukraine in a systematic way to help them through the winter. The worst is ahead for both military and civilian Ukrainians and the sooner a negotiated settlement is reached the sooner the horror can end.
The Zalushny interview represents the first real possibility that the horror can end soon. Ukraine can start to pick up the pieces and the rest of the world can start to try to decide if they are going to get along or destroy the world with nuclear war. I am cautiously optimistic. It remains to be seen how far this constantly increasing horror will be allowed to continue. A negotiated settlement is the only way out. The young Ukrainian men dieing in Bakhmut are unacceptable. The Russians are expending 20x the artillery shells and young Ukrainians are dieing en mass. Some of the reinforcements sent have suffered 100% losses. Its sickening to see the bright young faces killed in a proxy war. They show up with their AKs and RPKs and get shredded by russian artillery. Im not sure Russia wants to take bakhmud while Ukraine sends its troops to die there. Another month and there wont be a Ukrainian army.
A negotiated settlement would represent movement towards order in a world that seems increasingly unstable. The reality is there is only three outcomes. In six months there will be nothing to negotiate Ukraine will be gone with another 40k dead-landlocked and 100k in wheelchairs. A strategic nuclear exchange. A negotiated settlement.
How could anyone want this to continue?
On a less positive note we are now in a arms race never before seen of unbridled nuclear weapon development. The technology horse takes humans for a ride not visa versa. The Russians are going to crank out their nuclear hypersonic offensive and air defense like nobodies business. It can have only one outcome. At least its mano au mano not a proxy slaughter.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Hp6BpKAoD9lW/
“A negotiated settlement is the only way out.”
Merkel, Poroshenko and other leaders have recently openly admitted they never intended to honor Minsk 2 and the deal was struck only to buy time to arm and train Ukraine to fight Russia. It hasn’t gotten much news coverage, but it’s a big deal. Russia will not trust the results of any negotiation (unless their leadership is even more incompetent than I think) and they are now forced to solve everything militarily. It’s unfortunate, but you can only break trust so many times.
Incompetence demonstrated by Russian leadership that makes me wonder if they’ll actually negotiate (only to get screwed again):
(1) Parking massive foreign reserves with hostile foreign nations rather than building up their own nation.
(2) Signing long-term natural gas deals with China every time Russia is in duress and isolated, rather than signing them during good times at higher prices.
(3) Trying to make nice with Europe rather than having some pride and developing internally.
When did Russia make nice with Europe?
1) Subsidizing Europe for decades with cheap resources.
2) Not retaliating proportionally for European sanctions imposed on Russia over the past decades.
3) Agreeing to Minsk 1 and 2.
I think the latter two decisions were made in hopes of normalizing relations with Europe.
The Ukrainian kids from nowhere Ukraine getting slaughtered on the front line by one of the best militaries of the world are not Banderite Nazis. They are exactly the same as the kids living in nowhere Russia across the line. How is this different than the Ukrainian military killing civilians in the Donbass? These kids have no say. They are civilians given two weeks of training and sent to the front. They have no basic military skills let alone specialist training. Most never even held a rifle their whole life. Its not right. Russia is in the civilian killing business now? Apparently so because they are doing a bang up job.
A lot of these Ukrainian conscripted kids are dieing within days of hitting the front.
Its over. It needs to end. Its time to end the slaughter and get aid to the area. Russia has got its payback x100. These kids dont deserve to die because of nuland and the shithead Banderites in Kiev.
Anyone on a big gun shelling Donetsk civilians different story.
Like i said. These kids are civilians. If one genocide squares another the Russiands have got their payback x100. The denazification is largly complete. Its over. Ukraine is in ruins. There is no non nuclear or non biological tech that can be provided to Ukraine that will change a thing. Russia doesnt have to worry about agreements not being kept. Its over. Russia won. Duh. If it has to go to a unconditional surrender and more kid slaughter its not right. Has Russia forgotten these are neighbors cousins brothers? They are starting to look a lot like the banderite thugs (albeit much better at killing) to me.
>> Its over. Russia won. Duh.
Well, convince Ukraine’s patrons then, as they apparently didn’t get the memo; the weapons deliveries, foreign special forces activity, and fighting continue. I see constant reports from MSM about how Russia is about to be defeated.
Russia cannot leave this a frozen conflict and must totally destroy Ukraine militarily so as to achieve an enforceable political settlement and ongoing political control. It’s terrible, but Ukraine’s political leadership fell to western agencies (Victoria Nuland bragged about the coup on video in 2015) and in turn used Ukraine to attack ethnic Russians in the east. In the months leading to the war, Ukraine was talking about acquiring nuclear weapons and joining NATO and gearing up for an offensive to finally crush the resistance in Donbass.
Given the direction of things and 8 years of attacks on Russians in the east, Russia finally had to act. I don’t want to see bloodshed there either, but now only bad choices remain.
>> Has Russia forgotten these are neighbors cousins brothers?”
That didn’t stop Ukraine from trying to genocide their own ethnic Russian population in the east for 8 years. Ukraine chose this path, not Russia. Now Ukraine will suffer the predictable consequences. Stopping now would be a disastrous move by Russia.
Its just sickening to see the Ukrainian boys die. The vast majority of the Ukrainian people didnt want this path. But guess what- they didnt have a choice.
2014 pressure is on the democratically elected president Yanukovych to sign a trade agreement with the EU along with the bribe a IMF loan. Yanukovych wants to have a encompassing trade agreement that includes Russia. He suggests a three way trade agreement between Ukraine, EU and Russia. Putin supports this. The EU declines. The EU offer take it or leave it BUT it is contigent on no trade agreements with Russia whatsoever.
Yanukovych declines the EU trade agreement.
His statement.
“normal relations can be established between the European Union, Russia, and Ukraine… this is our responsibility”
IMO absolutely looking after the welfare of the Ukrainian people but also what a concept normal peaceful relations between multiple nations. This was unacceptable to Victoria Nuland and the State department.
Within days the assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland were planning the overthrow of the democratically ellected goverment of Ukraine installing a minority ultra nationalist anti slavic anti antisemitic goverment. Here is the famous “F*** the EU” phone call between Nuland and the USA ambasador to Ukraine where they will pick and choose who will rule Ukraine. The exact people they choose soon come to power as miraculously a violent overthrow of the democratically elected goverment of Ukraine occurs within days. Nuland later reveals that 5 billion dollars was spent in a public speech. Yanukovych the democraticaly elected president advocating that nations get along is exiled. Note that the authorization came from then vice president Biden not Obama at the end of the conversation.
https://rumble.com/vwjn3v-2014-ukraine-coup-victoria-nuland-geoffrey-pyatt-leaked-phone.html
And now tens of thousands of young Ukrainian men die their life stolen from them.
It sickens me. Im nauseous. I cant imagine more dishonorable and disgusting behavior from representatives of a nation. And that nation is the USA. Neither the people of the USA or the people of Ukraine are dishonorable. No one wanted it except these creatures of disgust. These creatures are not representatives of the people of the USA. Nor do the installed ultra nationalists in Kiev represent the people of Ukraine. Ukraine is a victim. Every young Ukrainian on the front his life ended a victim. Tens of thousands of victims. The head of the EU says 40k dead. Twice that maimed probably. Hundreds more every day. I shed no tears for the Ukrainian ultra nationalists. These young Ukrainian men dieing are not Ultra nationalists. Ultra nationalism would be a teensy tiny minority in the Ukraine were it not for Nuland and the state department.
I wish somehow it could end. Yes its Russian artillery ending these young mans lives but the blood is on Nulands and the state department hands. What is left of the the USAs honor? The truth is nothing. SHAME. That is all I feel anymore. Shame disgust and anger.
Very few are dying — just enough to convince the mob that this is a real war and not an excuse for high energy prices
Who cares anyway – 8B – it’s like crushing a few roaches under your boot – you’d do that without a second thought
“Who cares anyway – 8B – it’s like crushing a few roaches under your boot – you’d do that without a second thought”
Then why did you go to HK during the protests? LOL.
Its possible to not care. Once the light goes out the shell can live on for a long time but usually not. In this matter you are a pretender. Thats why I am fond of you. There is a aspect of you that yearns not to care for to care is to experience pain. To be alive is to experience pain. It is logical to want to be alive with no pain. It can be done but then you are walking dead.
The main reason I went to HK for the protests for 10 weeks was because it provided me with an adrenaline rush…. rebellions are fun.
I sided with the protestors because I have a vested interest in HK not becoming a police state. I also support rule of law in HK – and the CCP was destroying the only thing that differentiates HK from the mainland.
I also liked HK the way it was… it was a great city. Now it is f789ed. I doubt I will ever return – I have relinquished my permanent residency.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-bakhmut-problems-putin-overestimated-forces-1767732
Yet this is the MSM Narrative.
Spin instructor at M Fast’s gym … had a stroke mid class the other day.
Ambulance hauled her carcass to the hospital.
Nobody is suggesting a vax connection.
M Fast was told about this over dinner by someone who was in the class when it happened. The others at the dinner are full shot with the rat juice – M Fast did not mention the vax.
I said – good – you don’t want to help them make the connection because we need them to keep on boosting so that we exceed the 6B cull target.
If fact if anyone does try to connect — tell them — it can’t be that the vax is safe and effective – even very fit spin instructors have strokes — all the time
Dear Gail, what is your view on chances of the nuclear fusion impacting the situation in the future?
I think any help from nuclear fusion will be many decades away. Even then, it will only help electricity. We use oil products in many ways, besides burning it. We need to replace a whole lot of different things, to transition to close to all electricity.
I am afraid population will need to fall a lot, and then rebuild, before alternative energy sources, such as fusion, will really be helpful. The world will have to start from a lower technology level and rebuild. This could be many, many years from now.
Fusion. If we could just have fusion. Last week, a landmark was passed, where fusion was able to produce more energy than that of the laser energy input. However, the energy required to power that laser was 130x more than the energy received back from fusion.
A couple of other caveats is that the energy returned by fusion needs to be captured and then converted back to electricity to power the lasers again, and complete the loop. Currently we only have steam turbines to do this. So, now we are at something like 1/1500th efficiency. We have a long way to go.
Tritium is a huge problem. This is the chemical used for the fusion process. The problem is, we don’t have it. CANDU (Canada Deuterium Uranium) reactors are the only way we can currently produce it, and they are being shutdown gradually. Tritium is the most expensive human produced chemical there is.
Plenty of it on the moon mind you.
We have a long way to go.
They would have been able to make significant progress decades ago if it was ever going to happen.
Too bad we can’t get fusion to work — we are at 8B now … and growing exponentially …
Surely we could pave over the entire planet by 2035… and long before then we’d need controls on travel because if too many of the 25 billion shifted to one part of the planet at once…
We’d throw the planet out of orbit and crash into the sun.
Alas fusion is nothing but hype so we won’t have the opportunity to grow much beyond 8B before extinction
Not that I want to burst anyone’s bubble, but here’s some food for thought: the article is not very recent, but, as far as I know, none of the problems mentioned have really been adressed. https://thebulletin.org/2017/04/fusion-reactors-not-what-theyre-cracked-up-to-be/
Anyone with some basis in objective reality would realize the hurdles of scalability.
The microchip was invented some 50 years ago and it is literally just now within everybody’s grasp.
Suppose for the sake of argument it could replace all electricity generation within a decade, it would still be an extremely irresponsible act to deploy it globally.
No, obviously artificial shortages and psychosocial temptations is ‘the way’ for rapacious primates.
Let the herd feel the burn from blowing through finite resources with little to nothing to show for, while concurrently stigmatizing and coercing them into accepting the vax.
I.e. let the Tryhards tryhard and MOARons moar. Yes, it’s fscking awful, but what’s the realistic alternative?
🤷♂️
Zero. Absolute Zero.
My money is on this:
China claims breakthrough in mining ‘flammable ice’
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-39971667
The diminishing EROEI and coming economic woes will only be an issue if we, as a society, try to continue on with business as usual. Instead, we could see it as an opportunity for meaningful change. We could work together for a change, like our hunter-gather ancestors did. We could pool resources, get rid of money, manage de-growth, share. This would make for a more gentle collapse of our complex society…give us our best chance of prosperity into the future. Fierce individualism and greed must be put aside. Who’s with me? Bueller? Bueller?
Good article on why we can’t..https://www.slatestarcodexabridged.com/Meditations-On-Moloch
I have posted before..
Ends every time with the pigs looking like the human farmers in short order
Actually, I am afraid our problems are worse than “will only be an issue if we, as a society, try to continue on with business as usual.”
The economy, as it is organized today, demands very specific things. For example, if your car needs fixing, it needs very specific parts. It may need new tires, or a new water pump, and perhaps a fill up with fuel.
The belief that many people have had is that everything we have today will continue to be available. Things will continue to be available, but they will be high-priced. All we need to do is “use less.”
I see the problem as quite different. It will be an “empty shelf” problem. Things that we need simply won’t be available, at any price. Perhaps tires won’t be available for your car, or for the truck bringing food to the grocery store. The overall system will be in danger of breaking down. The grocery store may close for lack of food from farmers, for example.
Pooling resources won’t work very well for most of us. One big need will be food. In cities, the amount of food grown will be small relative to population. Even in the country, the food won’t match up well with what people are accustomed to eating. And farmers may need to stop producing food, because they are lacking essential items, such as diesel fuel for their tractors, or a part that is broken on a combine.
We are hitting a bottleneck. We know that even when the world hit ice ages, there were some people who survived. I expect that there will be some people who do survive. If people want to try some approach that they think will work, I won’t stand in their way. But my own experience with gardening, without using modern conveniences, has not been very good. I found that I lost an awfully lot of the food I grew to animals of various sorts–rabbits, deer, mice, and birds, for example. Fertilizer is really important, too. Also, the crops most people grow don’t really supply a lot of calories.
Many people suffer from Dunning Kruger syndrome…
An adventure.. an adventure like anything seen before.. is what we will be facing
But adventures are not fun or safe.. adventures are dangerous.. adventures kill people.. adventures are moments of pure panic and horror
Nice
Here is the situation.
Remember the dungeon in the start of the movie, Indiana Jones and the raiders of the lost ark?
The situation is.. that you have to go through that dungeon.. with 100 people wearing pink eyeglasses convinced this is Disneyland and everybody is safe. You know.. you alone know this is not Disneylqnd.. and there are slim chances for anybody to survive it..
And now you start your journey through the dungeon..
The caviat? Well.. you have 100 useless tourists with pink eyeglasses with you.. you are informed.. if at least 10 people wont survive the dungeon.. then nobody will get off the island..
Good Luck!
The moments of pure horror and pure panic ridden survival.. that is what now awaits us.. An adventure.. an adventure like anything seen before..
Exactly, Van Kent.
The best guide to these times will be the old heroic epics, like Beowulf.
In the end, the ‘dragon’ will get you, as all things die.
But that does not mean that to live with nobility (protect innocent others when possible)) courage, astuteness and cunning are a waste of time.
Those who survived earlier ‘bottle-necks’ were omni-competent to start with, mobile, and highly adaptable.
This does not describe Hom. Sap 2000.
We are the prisoners of specialisation and infrastructure-dependence within the context of high energy-flows.
Human resilience may surprise you, Gail. I consider myself an optimistic realist. Necessity is the mother of inventions. Growing food is not really that hard, it’s easy to make your own fertilizer(s). Not tilling the soil, not only saves the soil, but adds lots of organic material to the soil and saves the ecosystem of the soil.
Protecting from critters will require defenses, maybe a security detail, maybe a well trained dog, maybe appropriate fencing. We have defeated the deer, and we have almost defeated the rabbits.
I predict the industry of the future will be salvage. The Tiny House guy in TX said “Everything we’ll ever need has already been made.” That statement somehow rung with the truth in my ears.
It’s been known for centuries that the most energy efficient housing is underground housing. Underground housing need not be primitive. With underground housing, no need to deforest to stay warm, in fact, no outside heat source needed.
It’s really easy to take care of chickens if cows or goats are out of reach, and chickens provide eggs and meat.
It won’t be the end of humanity, but it will be the end of the Western Lifestyle.
You are living the Little House on the Prairie delusion … your manure producing animals will all be killed and eaten by the mob … by your neighbours … if you refuse to feed them it will go very badly for you.
You have no idea what men are capable of… I fear for you… seriously.
lorraine sounds like a tough lady
your fear is well founded–but not exactly as you worded it eddy
I have discovered that a person needs fencing and netting. Even at that, deer run wild in my suburban neighborhood. They jump over fences. Trying to grow flowers can be a challenge, especially the ones the deer want to eat.
You really need a fossil fuel system to make the fencing and the netting. There are also sprays you can use and reapply to try to keep pests away. But it is a big job.
I agree that underground housing saves heat energy, but it works better some places than others. There aren’t too many places zoned for underground housing, I would guess. I would expect that it would be hard to get a bank loan for underground housing, also.
Little House on the Prairie Syndrome. (TM Fast Eddy 2022)
Lorraine
I admire your level of resilience–much better than my own
But have you considered the energy input necessary to create an underground dwelling of any meaningful size?
And thats before we go into inputting the essential services for it
Excellent article as always Gail and very insightful!
Just I estimate by my UK national accounts, we haven’t been able to grow faster than our annual debt/deficit since the 2008 GFC! Indeed, I hypothesize that was the absolute peak in conventional hydrocarbon production globally 2005-6, just before the GFC(largest downturn in 100 years in UK)!. Therefore the essential energy equation will tend towards an ever decreasing circle of entropy for us all if no action taken! Nevertheless despite this, I’m feeling sanguine or dare I say optimistic!? Only that we have a UK energy and industrial strategy alongside the EU, for some of the most profitable companies and prestigious universities globally. are part of our plan!
For example in my UK we have one of the largest electrolytic manufacturing already built for what appears to be our multi-decade energy and industrial strategy starting from end of the 2000s. This will be for our next phase to store the world’s largest offshore renewable energy to hydrogen for our energy security, NetZero carbon, and now adapting as ideal deterrent against authoritarianism trying as in the zeitgeist with Russia. What’s more this is encouraging as my UK has ceased “direct” coal burning for electricity for the first time since the industrial revolution began! (although on standby in light of the senseless largest conflagration since WW2 in the Ukraine)
Other examples naturally alongside the EU despite Brexit. The UK is helping German companies build themselves the world’s largest electrolytic manufacturing by 2024 to store their side of the North sea and FDI and lots of trade and crossover! Indeed Germany is has reached highest ever in renewables production as of 2021, I’ve just heard. Furthermore the Germans have built the first ever hydrogen train and they are implementing cost effective transport needs ! I know in the UK we have a ship and looking at hydrogen aviation! Even more encouraging for Great Britain and the European Union for Scotland are exporting their surfeit energy from renewable to England. Likewise Denmark are doing just that by laying undersea cable to export their surplus energy to the Netherlands!
My final point and referring back to your well structured analytical on energy, the above examples are only a few examples of the dynamism in replacing hydrocarbon now! Just I’m sanguine despite this tight spot winter, for things can only get better!
You’re optimistic and thus clearly haven’t spent sufficient time here or on this topic. Continue with reading past articles and their comment threads and you will be cured of your ignorant bliss, i.e. red-pilled. Watch presentations by Simon Michaux and Jean-Marc Jancovici. Crunch the numbers yourself with back-of-the-envelop calculations.
As for past articles on this site, please don’t let Fast Eddy’s endless stream of comments put you off; just ignore them if it’s not your cup of tea.
You sound skeptical which is fair enough and healthy just please leave cynicism at the door! 🧑,Just noticed last time fast eddy was so Rude!Just ignorant people that can’t accept we already get 20-50%+ of our energy needs! That is reality and actual fact with improves all the time!
Indeed, the 1.5% of our energy needs met by solar is a huge relief 🙂
Your sarcasm aside, under duress Germany manages 49.9% renewables so far this 2022!. Indeed, that’s without the storage addition from hydrogen. Siemens are designing and looking for the best efficiency for the 100% hydrogen turbine for electricity production right now .As for the turbine manufacturers, the sell combined turbines with that in mind the UK will need this too In the meantime my UK is using several sites across the country, including one courtesy of BP for blue and green hydrogen and a prototype on the German coast MW facility for storage of hydrogen by Shell. eventually this may be good business sense. Only the world may find storage of their renewable energy very helpful indeed. Who doesn’t wish for energy security while building reserves constantly from their renewable energy resources!?
Here are the numbers so far for Germany and that is before the extra green/blue/pink hydrogen storage –
http://www.euronews.com/next/2022/12/17/germany-power-renewables#:~:text=FRANKFURT%20%E2%80%93%20Renewable%20energy%20accounted%20for,industry%20groups%20said%20on%20Friday.
You realize the article is only talking about electricity generation, not overall energy consumption, right?
In the USA, electricity makes up ~17% of end-use energy consumption according to EIA. (Aside, 2/3 of electricity generation is apparently wasted – I had no idea.)
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/us-energy-facts/
If Germany is at all similar, bumping your “45%” number all the way to 100% would still only deal with a small piece of the pie. Please let me know what numbers you find for Germany.
Oh gosh … I guess jamie didnt realize that before he blurted out his nonsense.
jamie – do you drive a tesla? did you know tesla is one of the lowest ranks vehicles on Consumer Reports hahaha
Germany is flourishing!
https://s3.tradingview.com/o/OVYMfe4O_mid.png
Here, look at this handy pie chart for 2021 German energy consumption (not just electricity). Renewables are 16%, i.e. ~1/3 the number you imagined.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/paragraphs/images/fig10-germany-energy-mix-energy-sources-share-primary-energy-consumption-2021.png
Also, in addition to ramping up your existing renewables 6x, you guys are going to have to figure out a massive energy-storage solution because right now the way it works is that fossil fuels smooth the uneven generation provided by renewables. So if you get rid of fossil fuels, you either need storage or society and infrastructure needs to be redesigned for intermittent power.
jamie will do what all DelusiSTANIS do when confronted with facts and logic… he’ll get angry and go back to DelusiSTAN where he’ll be welcomed with a ticker tape parade as a conquering hero…
The $2.5 trillion reason we can’t rely on batteries to store energy
Fluctuating solar and wind power require lots of energy storage, and lithium-ion batteries seem like the obvious choice—but they are far too expensive to play a major role.
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/
Why Germany’s nuclear phaseout is leading to more coal burning
Between 2011 and 2015 Germany will open 10.7 GW of new coal fired power stations. This is more new coal coal capacity than was constructed in the entire two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall. The expected annual electricity production of these power stations will far exceed that of existing solar panels and will be approximately the same as that of Germany’s existing solar panels and wind turbines combined. Solar panels and wind turbines however have expected life spans of no more than 25 years. Coal power plants typically last 50 years or longer. At best you could call the recent developments in Germany’s electricity sector contradictory. https://carboncounter.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/why-germanys-nuclear-phaseout-is-leading-to-more-coal-burning/
Germany Runs Up Against the Limits of Renewables
Even as Germany adds lots of wind and solar power to the electric grid, the country’s carbon emissions are rising. Will the rest of the world learn from its lesson? After years of declines, Germany’s carbon emissions rose slightly in 2015, largely because the country produces much more electricity than it needs. That’s happening because even if there are times when renewables can supply nearly all of the electricity on the grid, the variability of those sources forces Germany to keep other power plants running. And in Germany, which is phasing out its nuclear plants, those other plants primarily burn dirty coal. https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601514/germany-runs-up-against-the-limits-of-renewables/
Blues for the Greenies: Now matter how many greenbacks the government throws at “green” energy, everyone ends up feeling blue. Yesterday the Wall Street Journal updated the story we’ve been covering for a long time now about the dismal performance of the Brightsource solar energy array in the California desert: High Tech Solar Projects Fail to Deliver – $2.2 Billion California Project Generates 40% of Expected Electricity http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/06/more-blues-for-the-greens.php
If you look at ivanislav’s link, the percentages of total energy for Germany are
Wind 3.5%
Solar 1.7%
Hydroelectric 0.6%
The sum of those is 5.8% of total energy consumption.
Biomass is 8.6%. I presume this is burned trees. Or there could be ethanol and biodiesel in the combination. It is not something that we could possibly want to ramp up.
There is also
Geothermal 0.7%
Waste 1.1%
You need the right geography for geothermal. Often it needs subsidies, if it is not near a volcano. Waste is burned trash, I believe.
I’d be surprised if you are still here next week.
Most end up back in DelusiSTAN with their mates after getting lost on OFW
After so much time on OFW I am still living in DelusiStan.
Sigh.
Where did you get these pink glasses ?
Simon’s reports on circular economy or resource issues to go full alternative energy are very solid but I don’t think his peak oil report is very compelling. I have yet to find one that properly addresses that most of the US offshore drilling has been off limits or the lack of fracking happening in the rest of the world. Not to say it’s not out there but I haven’t found it so would be great if somebody can point me in the right direction.
(although on standby in light of the senseless largest conflagration since WW2 in the Ukraine
The war is not senseless. it’s the opening salvo of World War III. The war between producers and consumers.
Let’s not chase Jamie off, he/she is giving us valuable insight into the state of Brittish thinking!
Replacement of oil by alternative sources
While oil has many other important uses (lubrication, plastics, roadways, roofing) this section considers only its use as an energy source. The CMO is a powerful means of understanding the difficulty of replacing oil energy by other sources. SRI International chemist Ripudaman Malhotra, working with Crane and colleague Ed Kinderman, used it to describe the looming energy crisis in sobering terms.[13] Malhotra illustrates the problem of producing one CMO energy that we currently derive from oil each year from five different alternative sources. Installing capacity to produce 1 CMO per year requires long and significant development.
Allowing fifty years to develop the requisite capacity, 1 CMO of energy per year could be produced by any one of these developments:
4 Three Gorges Dams,[14] developed each year for 50 years, or
52 nuclear power plants,[15] developed each year for 50 years, or
104 coal-fired power plants,[16] developed each year for 50 years, or
32,850 wind turbines,[17][18] developed each year for 50 years, or
91,250,000 rooftop solar photovoltaic panels[19] developed each year for 50 years
The world consumes approximately 3 CMO annually from all sources. The table [10] shows the small contribution from alternative energies in 2006.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_mile_of_oil
“To provide most of our power through renewables would take hundreds of times the amount of rare earth metals that we are mining today,” according to Thomas Graedel at the Yale School of Forestry & Environmental Studies. So renewable energy resources like windmills and solar PV can not ever replace fossil fuels, there’s not enough of many essential minerals to scale this technology up. http://energyskeptic.com/2014/high-tech-cannot-last-rare-earth-metals/
Renewable Penetration https://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/iea-primary-energy-suppy-1973-and-2015.png
Renewable Energy’s $2.5 Trillion Problem https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611683/the-25-trillion-reason-we-cant-rely-on-batteries-to-clean-up-the-grid/
Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren’t guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or “technology” of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company.
Even if one were to electrify all of transport, industry, heating and so on, so much renewable generation and balancing/storage equipment would be needed to power it that astronomical new requirements for steel, concrete, copper, glass, carbon fibre, neodymium, shipping and haulage etc etc would appear.
All these things are made using mammoth amounts of energy: far from achieving massive energy savings, which most plans for a renewables future rely on implicitly, we would wind up needing far more energy, which would mean even more vast renewables farms – and even more materials and energy to make and maintain them and so on. The scale of the building would be like nothing ever attempted by the human race.
In reality, well before any such stage was reached, energy would become horrifyingly expensive – which means that everything would become horrifyingly expensive (even the present well-under-one-per-cent renewables level in the UK has pushed up utility bills very considerably).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/23/google-gives-up-on-green-tech-investment-initiative-rec/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/25/top-11-problems-plaguing-solar-and-wind-power/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/high-costs-and-errors-of-german-transition-to-renewable-energy-a-920288.html
Eddy, I’m liking this new iteration of you where not everything is vaccine-related and you actually post relevant useful stuff!
That’s just a momentary lapse… how about this? https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/the-manager-of-canadas-response-to
thats eddys stunt double
FE and a few here have “graduated” from discussing energy in the comments. It is known that we are on a predicament and like Neo on the Matrix, we do things to provoke others to see if they are ready to have “alternative facts” (hat tip Norm. See his comment above to Gail)
I sense that the consistory of alternative facts is about to get MAGA slapped.
Jamie, let’s call you a renewable romantic…..or a blathering fool Get educated on reality.
BTW, I was in the UK last week on biz and family visits….ALL the wind generators were not turning at all.
Good luck with all that. Go buy a good coat to stay warm…you will need it.
Hi Gail what do you think is in store for 2023? I’m hearing a steady drumbeat of recession
. I don’t think the FED has control like they pretend. Mainstream seems interested in having a downturn so that they can get on with making money again! Just so bizarre .. I feel lucky to have found this page otherwise I’d have thought maybe I’m the crazy one. From vax to green solutions it’s been frustrating discussing with anyone… you can quickly tell by their political beliefs which way they are going to go!
Sam…. there will be no recession in future….
(Change the definition which they had already done so a few months back. You were caught in the deceit when you said “will there be a recession in 2023”)
I expect my next post will be on what is in store for 2023.
The world economy is looking more and more like it could come apart. So far, it has shown amazing resilience, however. The financial situation around the world is worrying. It seems like governmental organizations (EU, World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund, etc) could start coming apart.
We are definitely not going into a “normal recession.” It looks much worse than a normal recession.
I am getting bored waiting for things to implode… I need more dopamine — I need proper riots … Peru is looking good – 22 people dead. That’s a pretty good riot
If a player does not go down during the WC Final I am gonna crash hard… please stand by with some vax injury news to revive me
I would be very interested to know what you think about the situation in Europe.
Depending on how this winter goes, we could end up with quite low gas storage in the spring.
And unlike this year, in 2023 we won’t have the chance to fill up our storage with Russian gas at least until August.
I really wonder how all this gas is going to be replaced by LNG – both purely physically and financially.
I am much more concerned about the winter of 23/24 than I am about the current one.
Will the coming crisis reduce industrial demand enough to make it work out – of course with corresponding effects on unemployment, government finances, etc.?
In any case, in the last few weeks we (in Germany) have used more gas for electricity generation than ever before, even though this is precisely what should be avoided in order to conserve reserves.
But electricity production by wind has been poor lately and we had a dark lull. Plus the problems in France with the nuclear power plants. I suppose that’s why we had to export electricity.
Also, the price cap for Russian oil has now come into force and from February 5, refinery products may also no longer be supplied.
I really wonder how all this chaos will play out in the coming year.
as usual interesting and insightful – always look forward to your posts
I think that it might have helped that I had a specific possible reader in mind. I had tried to explain the story to her, over the period of about 45 minutes. She said, “I really need to see something written down.”
I found it difficult to whittle the story down sufficiently, and still keep all of the points in. Also, at the end, one of my reviewers came back and asked, “But why did the political leaders do what they did?” I ended up amending the beginning section to add something about that issue.
It helped that I have been a part of this story for so very many years. I know a whole lot of the energy researchers personally. I know what goes wrong with the models. I have talked to textbook publishers, and they have told me what they want in a textbook.
A brief discussion of the Swedish study that shows the spike protein effects DNA. The repair mechanisms of DNA the “guardians of the genome” are negated by 80%. These guardians of the genome are one of the main preventives of cancer.
There are 200 new MRNA products in “clinical trials” they are all “vaccines”. This label allows them to be created via the new warp speed manufacturing process. Treatment is yesterdays technology. The next stage will be vaccines for what might prove to be a epidemic of cancer. The epidemic of cancer will provide the same sense of urgency provided by the pandemic.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/sb0TxvUEDL2u/
Bizarre! Why would people create these new mRNA products? To make money, I suppose. Not a good reason, however.
We might better understand the irrational behavior of much of humanity if we consider the adaptation of humans to population increase. We can consider MOREONS as Homo Sapiens Politico, a subvariant of Homo Sapiens.
Homo Sapiens Politico evolved from its co-subvariant, Homo Sapiens Empirico.
Most life forms have succeeded through their empirical observations of their environment. The individual perceives its surroundings and makes a response. If the perceived condition has been encountered previously and the response was successful, then the response was likely activated by the genetic material.
The genetic material is a history of successful response.
As populations increased, it became necessary to recognize who were the Alpha individuals and adhere to their positions. Throughout history, Alpha individuals…Chiefs….Kings….Emperors…etc. have suppressed the expression of opinions that failed to support the Alpha’s agenda.
If an individual’s empirical observation contributed to a failure to convince the Alpha of being in support, then the observation could be fatal.
On Feb. 16, 1600, Giordano Bruno was executed by the Roman Catholic Church, for the crime of heresy. Bruno’s heresy was the belief and promotion of the idea that the Sun and not the Earth is the center of the solar system and that stars were suns with planets around them. His promotion of an idea that was counter to the beliefs of the Church was not allowed and he was burned at the stake in Rome.
One method of avoiding the wrath of the Alpha for holding a different opinion is to project the appearance of agreement and support irregardless of one’s belief.
The ability to act like something that you are not evolved. Today’s humans hold the ability to act like something that you are not as a highly esteemed art form.
There was also a selection for not making an empirical observation.
The truth was not what the individual observed.
The truth was whatever the Alpha declared.
In the urban setting, life was less stressful if there was no empirical observation to cloud one’s projection of adherence to the position of the Alpha and the herd.
It appears that the human population has become majority Homo Sapiens Politico, aka Moreons. Homo Sapiens Empirico asks why these people can’t see what is clearly observable.
The answer is that their HS Politico brains are not “wired” for observation.
If they observe something that is counter to the position of the Alpha, their consciousness does not record it.
They do not respond to other than the declaration of the Alpha.
The Moreons are actually a Homo Sapiens subvariant.
I think you have a point. The response to Covid was driven by people’s desire to do what those in charge wanted done. The ones who refused were considered outcasts because they didn’t follow government/establishment recommendations/orders. Most people could not imagine a situation in which those in charge would recommend “solutions” that were harmful to health.
Really great comment, eKnock, thanks.
‘The Moreons are actually a Homo Sapiens subvariant.’
So in the same way that the enforced Injection produces variants, so too, the forced narrative sorts Homo Sapiens into the Sapient and the purblind.
The ruling narrative, of whatever historical age, can be seen to be a challenge to the level of dissonance that an individual can tolerate before having their epiphany, or not, during their life journey.
Religions have often been at odds with nature as the establishment becomes divorced from the day to day realities of life.
The Clim8te Chang narrative has had to morh at regular intervals, from the initial glow-ball warming to its current form. It has now reached the stage where dissent is getting harder to control and so is about to launch into its draconian final/end stage.
‘Homo Sapiens Empirica’ is going to have a hard time of it, of orders of magnitude grater than during the Convid shock and awe campaign.
I’d agree: draconian repression is the only viable option now.
And it will come, rather soon.
‘Stay in your Zone (ghetto) to fight GW or get knocked on the head, citizens!’
once a critical mass is convinced the herd follows blindly
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/picture-devastation-worlds-largest-cylindrical-aquarium-bursts-1500-tropical-fish-inside
Humans always think their creations are foolproof, don’t they …
The aquarium shattered because hotels in Berlin were ordered to turn down the heating in their lobbies due to the gas shortage.
Complex vs complicated systems
There could be more discussion of this ‘aquarium effect’ as it has to do with feedback….the system feeding back on itself. We’re all familiar with feed back when it comes to audio, it’s sudden and violent…. a bit like the aquarium. It was assumed the hotel temperature would remain stable!
Withnail
Is that really true?
Yes. That’s why the aquarium shattered on an extremely cold night (minus 11 degrees centigrade).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/24/germany-approves-limit-on-heating-public-buildings-to-save-energy
…As part of the energy regulations, building facades and monuments will no longer be lit up for purely aesthetic reasons. Authorities in Berlin and elsewhere have already implemented many energy-saving measures: the Brandenburg Gate in the capital had its lights turned off several weeks ago.
A great example of everything working until it doesn’t. Then carnage.
Well that’s pretty fun. Thanks.
FE
You see that Toronto bishop who was charge of Catholic Hospital. He told the local news “He wished he could punch anti-vaxxers in the face”.
And then died two weeks after getting boosted. This was over a year ago, but still funny AF. 🙂
He died for his belief …how appropriate that his faith was more with The Big Pharma than The Big Guy.
Any idea where is grave is? I need to take a piss…
Welcome to Venezuela !!!.
Thanks, Gail, a really good article! You have managed to reduce a highly complex matter to key points that are easily to comprehend!
I would like to elaborate the term “inflation” as a consequence of higher efforts to extract oil.
If you understand “inflation” as higher prices – yes! If you understand inflation as a way to shift money to oil production (devaluating assets and investing the amount of devaluation into oil production) – yes!
Precisely the falling productivity (measured in terms of EROI) is no inflation even if it triggers a wage-price spiral. It is not a cyclical but structural and permanent economical downturn.
A society can distribute what they produce. This is like a cake or a pizza. It can grow or it can shrink. In an economy you can only distribute this pizza or cake. This cake consists of all products and services being produced, including education, food and refridgerators and of course oil production.
In the moment we have to invest more efforts into extracting resources the cake does neither grow or shrink but changes it’s ingredients. Instead of building refridgerators or dish washers we have to reinvest parts of the cake into future oil production. GDP will stay the same. But we will pay this oil production with less refridgerators. Now refridgerators or dish washers save time, they can store precooked food or clean the dishes and save time people can use to produce other stuff, help the kids with homework or work longer hours or extract oil.
Living like 100 years ago takes time. If you heat water, soak your clothes and wash them by hand it takes time. If you cook healthy from basic ingredients it takes time. If you knit, make shoes or make your own things it takes time.
This time is lost for adding to the cake. If you knit some garments it adds to the cake but less efficiently than modern producers. So you add less.
If we add less to the cake, because we have less technical helpers because instead of into these helpers we have to invest into the same amount of oil production, then the cake will shrink.
A shrinking cake means a permanent structural recession.
We can now isolate the recession to some people only or to some world areas but it stays a permanent recession.
Now if we reduce population we need less cake to distribute but we also have less people to add to the cake. With a smaller cake the same amount of effords for oil production become a higher percentage of the cake with the above consequences.
If the cake shrinks we will not be able to keep up infrastructure or products a highly complex economy needs, like basic chemical products or semiconductord.
It is a downward spiral.
There is no way out!
Great stuff Jan thanks!
I agree, “A shrinking cake means a permanent structural recession.”
The nature of the workforce has to change, as well. Fewer people working in discretionary sectors. More on food, water, fuels (of whatever kinds) and less in government, education, healthcare, vacation travel, and gyms.
Excellent comment Jan. Far too few people truly get the remorseless mathematics of post peak and how hard-wired in the evental collapse is. The exponential works to accelerate collapse once thermodynamic expansion ends.
We live in the final doubling of the yeast colony. For those with the eyes to see it, the view from the top of the Net Energy Hubbert Curve is indeed spectacular.
Most people believe we don’t have a population problem… I guess they think the resources are infinite
Maybe they are repeating what they learned from newspapers, television, and school.
Curiously, even those who see that the vaxxes are a depopulation weapon of some kind insist on denying even the theoretical possibility of ‘over-shoot’.
Of course, they think only through their emotions; over-shoot being too terrible to contemplate even by those who grasp the reality of planned genocide.
@reante:
Interestingly people talking about M. King Hubbert never mention that he is the co-author of the “technocracy course”. So he thought this through and we have a solution to all problems:
More computing as in
“brute force attack”!
MM
Yeah when glancing through the recently rebooted dieoff.org I think I briefly saw something about Hubbert having confidence in a nuclear technocracy or whatever. He must be rolling over in his grave. If you ask me he should’ve had the foresight to know that few had his foresight.
It’s kind of fun trying to get progressives to see that in reality as opposed to theory the Degrowth Agenda ain’t so pretty after all. They probably end up denying that it ever existed just like people will WRT peak oil. Oh well you snooze you lose.
Circus and Barnyard Animals… with a bit of parrot mixed in …
If you think about it … how are they any different from parrots? If CNNBBC repeat catch phrases enough they will repeat them.
sheeesh
i thought that cop-obsession had run its course eddy
are you neglecting the staff down at the medical centre these days??
or are they no longer trying to bump you off?
still obsessing on your own inadequacies are we eddy?
its not me who falls out of bed at 8 am or earlier every day—reaches for the laptop and starts banging out your unfulfilled fantasies.
i would prefer not to be made aware of them—but as with everything else, the whole world must know of eddy’s shortcomings.
(and i use the word advisedly)
Agree solar and wind will not solve the energy problem in many instances and countries.The USA situation with subsidies appears different to Australia – there are subsidies for both the fossil and renewables sector, with no reduction in fossil subsidies but a steady decline for any solar subsidies. In $Aus a kWh of electricity produced by solar and wind is now much lower than gas and coal. and uptake of domestic solar is accelerating. One state (South Australia) now runs their electricity system mostly on renewables backed by some battery storage and some interest grid connection, when required. Tasmania, with extensive hydro and wind resources is effectively 100% renewables electricity and exports to the mainland. If you are interested I can provide some data and costing comparisons. Notwithstanding the above, unless there is some serious technological breakthroughs, I believe the current evidence supports a slow but certain global collapse over the coming couple of decades, roughly as per LTG.
You have to look at the detail data to see what goes wrong. The batteries extend the output for a few hours, so the electricity from the morning can be used in the evening, for example.
There are multiple big problems. One of them is that in most of the world, what we need is heat energy in winter. Solar electricity is a summer product. It goes to help give more people air conditioning in summer, but this is not the world’s big need. It doesn’t give much energy for helping with agriculture, because this need is mostly diesel.
The low prices you see reflect the subsidies wind and solar are given. (The subsidy of going first is a very important one.) Fossil fuel companies are big tax payers. Without fossil fuels, there would be no wind and solar. There would also be no money to provide subsidies for wind and solar.
The need for fuel to cook food is more or less universal for Hom. Sap.
Those who need air-conditioning in the summer should either live or work in more intelligently – ie traditionally – designed buildings, or not live in that zone at all.
Demand for air-conditioning is largely a product of the global spread in the 20th century of steel, glass and concrete boxes as the primary human habitat. Add to that boxes on wheels…..
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Yep, spending time in the countryside of Japan during summer, living in a relatively old house by the foot of a hill taught me that an air conditioner is mostly superfluous. Just slide aside the walls and let the natural down draft of a shaded hillside do the air conditioning.
Tokyo on the other hand, oh my.
😥
The forest is a journeyman’s coat.
The hillside is a village dwellers air conditioner.
But if human society (especially in cities) comprises mostly “secret societies” whose residents cooperate, I don’t see how it can be the same as what’s going on now. We can also have transitional micro supply chains. Transition phases with micro supply chains can be expected to vary and be accompanied by local population decrease. Calculating who will survive over the long term may be beyond the capacity of humans bereft of magic. And we here are also badly limited by being denizens of Western civilization exclusively.
so much for china reopening — a full page of covid doom headlines here
https://www.bloomberg.com/asia
Exactly https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60223
Link to the mentioned essay about thermodynamics.
http://www.francois-roddier.fr/blog_en/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Thermodynamics_of_evolution.pdf
I read only 15 pages or so, but this is the type of work I long looked for. Outstanding.
If you actually buy the book (on Amazon), I think Roddier gets at least a bit of the revenue. He is 86 years old.
He emailed me an early version of the PDF of the book, before it was officially published in English.
Jan, thanks. Super interesting book on biology and human history.
Evolution is a ‘paperclip optimizer’ which uses energetic input to transform mineral into ever increasing systemic complexity.
Now; should “we” strive for evolutionary alignment or perhaps unfair advantage for subpar genetics? That is the question. And how is it possible to decide if we’re on the right “path”?
But I understand that the archaic drives, fears and desires (of primates) gets magnified through the neocortex causing unintended behaviors and malfunctions such as the various egotistic shenanigans of Tryhard and MOARon. I.e:
Will to Power instead of Power to Will.
A mentally ill species claiming to be intelligent.
Acceptance of reality is difficult in the extreme. This fact keeps myth-inventing politicians in business. Joe Bidet is importing millions of what he hopes will be low-IQ, low-wage workers who, “citizenized,” will vote Democrat forever. Never mind that, with their low wages, they will only depress the demand for goods of all sorts, and thereby depress also the economy as a whole. Add to this the narcotics syndicates and other criminal organizations being imported, plus the general cultural decline, and you have the makings of accelerated collapse.
The self-imposed deindustrialization of Europe is also not going to help the global economy. The European refugee problem caused by America’s anti-Russian proxy war in Ukraine can only exacerbate the situation. (Never mind the ~69 million refugees from elsewhere caused by the U.S. since 2001, pointed out by a 2020 Brown University study [https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2020/Displacement_Vine%20et%20al_Costs%20of%20War%202020%2009%2008.pdf].) In sum, the growing stresses everywhere, mostly caused by irrational or corrupt politicians, point in only one direction: collapse.
𝖁𝖊𝖗𝖎𝖙𝖆𝖘 𝖑𝖎𝖇𝖊𝖗𝖆𝖇𝖎𝖙 𝖛𝖔𝖘.
For some reason I am thinking of norm when i look at this
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/my-latest-all-cause-mortality-survey
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4a1d461e-74fa-4f11-b8c5-04cd9bccd243_945x756.png
Or this, his idol.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/biden-the-worst-president-in-history/
At least Bidet is going home with Toys just like the rest of the kids. 😜
very reliable dogwhistle rodster
norm has Super Snatch (but only when he pays to play)
eddy and his skoolyard wall again—-
not ‘scored’ lately eddy?
inadequacies are just so obvious—and embarrasing all round
Would you like Doris’ email address?
depends if i get a cut of your commission
or a ‘frequent user’ discount
Rodster
By reacting to eddys dogwhistle, you are showing your own obsessions, and revealing your own inadequacies
constantly repeating your mentor reveals your own character (or lack thereof) it doesn’t affect mine.
The skoolyard wall is big enough for both of you,
I shall keep you both supplied with chalk
do look for originality, it is more entertaining. Covid is so yesterdays crisis. Eddy keeps stoking it to keep his garbage bin full. (others have said the same thing if you notice)
There is another frequent poster who responds to Eddy in a much greater Pavlovian obsessive manner including stalking behavior of time and place identification. If we are defining responses as pavlovian and involuntary in nature does the classification of the response as affirmative or adversarial really effect the status of a the involuntary and obsessive nature of pavlovian responses?
Identifying unhealthy behavior in oneself and making changes is a quality in humans that seems to be achievable but somewhat rare. I certainly include myself in that statement. I admire those that are able to identify unhealthy behavior and make changes very much. IMO the ability to identify unhealthy behavior and make changes is probably the most important aspect of what we consider character. I certainly could improve in this matter. It seems to me we are both capable of change and incapable at the same time. I know that is a illogical statement. From where does the ability to change source?
Are you suggesting norm is a dog in a Pavlovian experiment?
That when BBCCNN blurts – time for the next booster — norm has been conditioned to jump into his car and immediately race to the clinic and get another shot of rat juice?
This is an interesting theory — a Pavlovian zombie-dog.
norm – bark like a dog for us please
i appreciate your observation and care in response banned
this being so, you will also have noticed, that in any new comments thread, i make no comment to eddy—except in a reactive context.
Comments are usually with pre pubescent level of language, where i feel duty bound to correct English usage sometimes, as necessary.—If your mind is on the same level, then I can only sympathise–i can offer no further help.
others have pointed out the same thread as this. If you think incessant attention seeking is critical to lucid comment on any subject, then so be it.
Perhaps you are impressed by someone who speaks of himself in the third person.
i make no comment to eddy—except in a reactive context
That’s the whole point, though, isn’t it? That’s why you have been described—and fairly so IMHO— as exhibiting a Pavlovian reaction.
You see an Eddy comment with the word Norm in it, and you can’t resist the urge to put fingers to keyboard.
Taunting norm is fun – and easy!
I don’t appreciate it, however.
i enjoy it Gail.
one’s verbal rapier becomes blunt without the words of others to skewer on it.
that said, the worthwhile business of OFW would be better served without Eddy’s constant reminders of his own inadequacies.
Check the archives pre-2015–the eddyrants were simply not there.
Fast Eddy is evolving … we were getting to know each other pre 2015.. HE was still trying to convince me that DD Prepping was Re Tard ED.
But now he is in total control … you are witnessing HIS Greatness in Full Ubermensch.
But norm demands it … it gives his life meaning when he is acknowledged by FE
self revelation is good for the soul eddy
yours are somewhat unpleasant—but ya gotta do what you gotta do
I’m fussy about who gives my life meaning at 7.32 am—tyvm
then another 7 in the next 25 minutes–doable, but not by the compulsively self obsessed.
quite correct tim, in a sense. Though I don’t read all comments on OFW.
you will though, i trust, notice that i have no need to reply with sexual innuendo should I have nothing otherwise worth saying.
My problem is, which i freely admit to, is having an overriding interest in human nature itself, and reading character from word-flow. (as you no doubt do with my ramblings).
Call it a perverse hobby if you like.
Just how far will eddy (and his cohorts) take such attention seeking rant?
We’ve had it directed at others. Any female commenter disagreeing with the unclad emperor is immediately ‘consigned to the streets’. (you mave have noticed they don’t hang around)
Pedos, se xdolls, you name it—all gets trotted out, year after year. Faux obs cenities. (can’t even swear well) Scoring?–wow, haven’t heard that word since i was in my teens.
To me it says inadequacy. Take that as you will.
I find it infinetely fascinating, that an adult can have such thought processes.
anna.. that’s her name… why would we want her to hang around? She’s a MORE-ON… there is no turning a MORE-ON.
The Core has to deal with these types in our daily life so why would we be welcoming to anna?
On the contrary we cannot hurl abuse at the Re tard ed MORE-ons outside of OFW (except over the phone when calling the clinic or chemist)… so when they show up in our hood — if they insist on spewing their imbecility — they get a mouthful of fecal matter….
They add nothing … they are completely and utterly useless blobs of muck… they pollute OFW… they cannot learn… they come here and repeat CNNBBC …
What do you do with someone who is completely useless who has zero talent … you put them on the street and you pi…mp them even if there is minimal interest… you hope someone will show up down on their luck and throw a few shekels at her feet.
If nobody wants to pay then you send her to the asylum to live out her days with the other useless cuckoos.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/84a6cea41a3f8453c168f518e647a406/tumblr_n6r7owHBpd1qzk2apo1_500.gif
oh—and you will find that my comment ratio is about 1:100 of eddys
i find drivel is treacherous underfoot–which is why i try to avoid it
covid is yesterday’s crisis? BBCCNN told you that right norm…. haha… so does that mean no more boosters?
Just wait – the best is yet to come….
And you’ve got it wrong … you are the pig… we are the wild dogs…
https://www.mindenpictures.com/cache/pcache2/00446476.jpg
if i sold pictures of myself as a superhero (which i am of course) would you buy the full set eddy?
Only if you pose for the photos in your diapers — and autograph them
i would not think of doing otherwise eddy—-
green (the envious variety) is not a colour that would suit you
being constantly on your mind brings me the comfort of knowing i am filling a vacuum eddy
But norm … we really do not want you to end up a statistic on the excess death chart…
We’ve driven all the others off … dunc seldom graces us with his spike filled mind… there was that mad woman … she’s been gone so long I can’t even remember her name…
We drove her into the asylum… she’s gone full cuckoo…
OFW would be dull without you norm…
those missing persons just recognise an attention seeker when they see one eddy
they have better things to do than read your claptrap
and you forgot that guy who felt it necessary to tell us about giving yachting lessons.
you certainly rocked his boat eddy.—but playing the theme music from Jaws wasn’t a kind thing to do.
i wish he could have stayed longer though—great stuff.
The pedo guy who was giving sailing lessons to 12 yr olds? He was very amusing.
I heard he got arrested and is doing a stretch in prison – they keep those types away from the general prison population
reante,
You have some interesting comments on ViroLIEgy.com, which I found on account of someone reposting your comments to a ZeroHedge article about oil. You certainly make the rounds!
https://viroliegy.com/2022/06/08/breaking-down-viroliegy-with-billy-watson/
Oh that must be my agent that’s reposting my stuff on ZH lol. Thanks ivanislav, appreciate it. I guess I get around a little bit. I was at viroliegy between my stints here at OFW, so I could sow my wild oats. It’s usually always one place at a time but while waiting on a new post here this time I couldn’t help but ruffle some feathers over at Tim Morgan’s place and now I’m feeling overcommitted. That Forbes article I linked to in my first comment was one of the best articles I ever came across during the plandemic. It’s level of detail was great for chasing down the complex reactivity of the nanolipids with a bit of research.
The commenters at Tim Morgan’s blog are reality-proof, they mostly only think ‘economics’.
Morgan makes his position clear:
” we live in a surplus energy system, we do not live in a surplus money system”
Are you saying he’s saying something other than that money is a proxy for energy?
sorry
i must have worded it badly reante—obviously money is a token for energy
Right but I was just wondering if he was saying something else that was wrong that I couldn’t tell from the lack of context.
Thanks X. Tim does run a tight ship, doesn’t appear to be a wide ranging man. But I sense a private curiosity in him lol. As for neill and their ilk, they’re just run of the mill small-minded groupies, and scared to really think for themselves, scared of being wrong, of having been wrong, but there’s hope for everyone. Let’s see if we can get them to open up a little bit. 🙂
I would add I have the greatest respect for Tim Morgan’s intellect, and his writing is a credit to the Cambridge ideal of well-reasoned clarity but clearly there are some aspects he just doesn’t want to consider – and no wonder!
Tim would have nightmares if he were to accept the obvious conclusions.
Is he rat juiced?
We are past the time for solutions. We now have to ask what percentage can we build out in the next 30 years. Is it 1% or 10%? It is not 50%. Just because it is not 100% does not mean we should not bother. If each house can have enough electric for a radio and one LED light that is better than nothing.
then we have to ask what % for 30 more years, then 30 more beyond that, etc.
some food and shelter, a radio and one LED sounds about right for 2052.
thank Godzilla that I won’t be around.
Ed, you are an engineer. You know that the skills to survive post collapse is very little or none at all. Those preppers are far apart and a lot of them are old and probably have impaired reproductive system. As an engineer, I see no way how you can think that there are sufficient resources to restriction electricity. How many parts are not made locally? I bet no one in your 500-mile vicinity know how to make capacitors, coil, LEDs, etc.
You cannot compare to the olden days where the “demands” of citizens for a comfortable life that one enjoy now can be made in the olden days. Turn the faucet and hot water comes out? Even water has to be taken from streams and the streams now are probably polluted.
I cannot see how modern home sapiens can even survive a couple of days post collapse. Me included.
CTG, though both my grandparents farmed and my uncle and cousins farm you are correct I know nothing about farming.
You can pick up a lot of farming tips by looking at those old Far Side cartoons. And also from Loony Tunes.