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The problem is hitting limits in the extraction of fossil fuels
We know that historically, many economies around the world have collapsed. We also know that there is a physics reason why this happens. Growing economies require a growing supply of energy to keep up with a growing population. At some point, the energy supply and other resource needs cannot grow rapidly enough to keep up with population growth. When this happens, economies tend to collapse.
In their book Secular Cycles, researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov found that economies tend go through four distinct phases in each cycle, with each stage lasting for quite a few years:
- Growth
- Stagflation
- Crisis
- Inter-cycle
Based on my own analysis, the world economy was in the Growth Stage for much of the time between the Industrial Revolution and 1973. In late 1973, oil prices spiked, and the world was put on notice that the energy supply could not continue rising as rapidly as in the past. Between 1973 and 2018, the world economy was in the Stagflation Stage. Based on current data, the world economy seems to have entered the Crisis Stage about 2018. This is the reason for saying that headwinds are beginning to hold the economy back in the title of this article .
When the Crisis Stage occurs, there are fewer goods and services per capita to go around, so some participants in the world economy must come out behind. Conflict of all kinds becomes more likely. Political leaders, if they happen to discover the predicament the world economy is in, have little interest in making the predicament known to voters, since doing so would likely lead them to lose the next election.
Instead, the way the physics-based self-organizing economic system works is that alternative narratives that frame the situation in a less frightening way gain popularity. Political leaders may not even be aware of how dependent today’s economy is on fossil fuels. Researchers may not be aware that their “scientific” models are misleading because they look at too small a portion of the overall system and make unwarranted assumptions.
In this post, I show evidence that the economy is reaching energy limits. In the last section, I explain how my view differs from the standard narrative, which says that there is almost an unlimited amount of fossil fuels available to burn, if we choose to utilize these fossil fuels. According to this view, humans can prevent climate change by voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels.
The standard narrative proposes a reasonable plan for citizens of parts of the world without adequate fossil fuels (cut back on buying fossil fuels), but without telling citizens what the real problem is. The standard narrative also gives the impression that there is a near-term clean energy alternative. In my opinion, this is wishful thinking for the reasons I describe in Sections [6] and [7]. Section [2] also sheds light on the reasonableness of moving to renewable energy.
[1] The world has been warned, at least twice, that collapse might occur about now.
Back in the 1950s, several physicists, including M. King Hubbert, became interested in the limits that the world was up against. The military became interested in the problem, as well. In 1957, Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a very insightful speech. One thing Admiral Rickover said was, “With high energy consumption goes a high standard of living.” Another thing he said was, “A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life.”
Regarding the future, he said,
For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.
The issue Admiral Rickover is pointing out is that as extraction costs rise, fossil fuels become increasingly unaffordable. If citizens cannot afford food, housing, and other basic goods made with high-cost fossil fuels, those fossil fuels will be left in the ground. If politicians try to pass the high cost of extraction on to consumers, it will cause inflation. Citizens will become unhappy with politicians and will vote them out of office. This is basically our problem today.
A second analysis that pointed to the current time frame for the world hitting fossil fuel limits is given in the 1972 book, The Limits To Growth by Donella Meadows and others. This analysis used computer modeling to look at several alternative future scenarios, considering resources available and population trends. The base scenario showed resource limits in general hitting sometime around 2020. The economy would collapse over a period of years after resource limits were hit.
[2] The Industrial Revolution in England is an example of how an economy changes for the better when fossil fuel energy is added.
Figure 1 shows a chart E. A. Wrigley shows in his book, Energy and the English Industrial Revolution:
Wrigley observes that when coal was added to the economy, it was possible to make far more metal tools than had been made in the past. With the use of metal tools instead of wood tools, farmers could be three times as productive. Thus, there didn’t need to be as many farmers, freeing some farmers for other occupations. Also, roads to coal mines were paved, in an era when few roads were paved. These paved roads were beneficial to other businesses and to the economy as a whole.
Another reason for coal to be of interest was because of increased deforestation near cities, as the population grew. This deforestation led to a need to transport firewood over long distances. Coal was more compact, and so easier to transport. Furthermore, the use of coal prevented having to cut down as many trees, helping the environment.
Figure 1 shows that energy from wind and water were only a tiny part of the economy, both before and after coal was added. They did not directly provide heat energy, which was a significant share of what the economy needed at that time.
[3] The period between the end of World War II and 1973 was another period when energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly. We might say the economy then had an “energy tailwind.”
Figure 2 shows that US energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly in the 1949 to 1973 period. Growing oil, coal and natural gas consumption all contributed to the overall rise in fossil fuel use.
In fact, BP data (only available from 1965 onward) shows energy consumption per capita rising for most parts of the world between 1965 and 1973. During this period, oil, coal and natural gas consumption per capita were all rising.
A major thing that pushed oil consumption along was its low price (Figure 4). According to BP data, the inflation-adjusted price was only $11.99 per barrel in 1970. In 1971, it averaged $14.30 per barrel. The comparable price today is about $79 per barrel.
The average price for 1973 rose to the equivalent of $19.73 per barrel, which is still incredibly low relative to today’s prices. It is an annual average price, reflecting a low price at the beginning of the year and a much higher price toward the end of the year.
There were multiple issues behind the rise in oil prices, starting at the end of 1973. Part of the problem was the fact that US oil production began to fall in 1971, necessitating the use of more imported oil, year after year. Another issue was that world oil production could not keep up with the high demand, given the low price that oil was selling for. The Office of the Historian of the US writes the following:
By 1973, OPEC had demanded that foreign oil corporations increase prices and cede greater shares of revenue to their local subsidiaries. In April, the Nixon administration announced a new energy strategy to boost domestic production to reduce U.S. vulnerability to oil imports and ease the strain of nationwide fuel shortages. That vulnerability would become overtly clear in the fall of that year.
Without higher oil prices, it would be hard for local producers to make the investments needed to ramp up production. Also, taxes for governments in the areas where the oil was produced were falling too low, given the low prices that oil was selling for on the international market. Indirectly because of these problems, but supposedly also because of support for Israel by certain countries in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the Arab members of OPEC initiated an oil embargo. This embargo cut off exports to the US, Netherlands, Portugal, and South Africa from November 1973 until March 1974. It was at that time that world oil prices rose to a much higher level, and oil consumption per capita began to fall.
One thing that is striking about the period between World War II and 1973 is the huge advances in wages made by both the bottom 90% and the top 10% (Figure 5).
Between 1948 and 1968, inflation-adjusted income of both the bottom 90% and the top 10% increased by roughly 80%. This meant that many people in the bottom 90% could afford to buy cars and their own homes for the first time. Even in the period between 1968 and 1982, inflation-adjusted incomes kept up with inflation, something that low-income earners today have difficulty with. It was not until after about 1982 that wage disparity started to increase.
Most people remember the 1950s and 1960s as a favorable period for ordinary workers. Because of the higher wages of ordinary citizens and growing US manufacturing capabilities, the number of cars registered in the US rose from 25.8 million in 1945 to 75.3 million in 1965. The US initiated the 41,000 mile Interstate Highway System in 1956, so that auto owners would have multilane, limited access roads to travel on.
Electricity was sold in a conservative way, called the Utility Pricing System, which would hopefully assure that the whole system would be properly maintained. Utilities were typically owners of electricity generation units, plus all other local infrastructure, including transmission lines. Each utility would compute a total required rate for all its needs, including enough funds to install new generating capacity, provide fuel, and install and maintain transmission lines. A government regulator would approve the rates, but there was no real competition.
[4] In the period between 1973 and 2018, many changes were to increase energy efficiency and to lower the perceived cost to users. Unfortunately, some of these changes, when taken to the extremes they were taken to later in the period, tended to make the economy brittle and thus more subject to collapse.
Up until 1973, oil was being put to uses for which substitution could easily be made. One of these was electricity generation; another was home heating. An easy change in electricity generation was to build new generating facilities using an alternate fuel (coal, natural gas, or nuclear). Home heating could often be changed to natural gas or electricity.
Also, Japan already had automobiles that were smaller and more fuel efficient than American automobiles. These could be substituted for some of the large cars produced in the US.
Especially with the Reagan and Thatcher administrations starting shortly after 1980, there was more interest in cutting costs in electricity generation. “Competitive rating” instead of utility rating became popular in places where electricity prices were high. Utilities were broken up, and the various parts were encouraged to compete.
Of course, competitive rating, when taken to its extreme, can lead to the neglect of infrastructure. It was recently reported that California’s utility company, Pacific Gas and Electric, now finds that it must raise $50 billion for wildfire prevention, after years of neglecting maintenance on the long distance transmission lines used for hydroelectric generation and other long distance transmission. Now it needs to raise money to bury many of these lines underground.
It has long been known that added complexity can be helpful in working around problems of inadequate energy supply. Complexity involves many things including using more advanced technology and international trade. It involves bigger organizations to take advantage of economies of scale. It tends to require higher education for at least some of its workers.
One major disadvantage of growing complexity is the increasing wage disparity it tends to produce. Wages for less educated workers often fall quite low. Work in whole industries may disappear overseas, leaving workers to start over, in new lines of work, at lower pay scales.
Unfortunately, having many workers at low wages tends to push an economy toward collapse. The big issue is that these workers cannot afford goods like cars and new homes. Their lack of purchasing power tends to hold down commodity prices, such as the price of fossil fuels. Prices don’t rise high enough to justify new investment to raise production, so production slows down and eventually stops.
Another approach that gained popularity starting about 1981 was the increased use of debt and more exotic financial approaches. Interest rates were very high in 1981. Central banks could make monthly payments for goods such as homes and cars more affordable by lowering interest rates. This approach works for a while, but it reaches limits when interest rates fall too low relative to inflation rates. Furthermore, if an economy slows down, a major increase in debt defaults becomes likely, as became clear in 2008. With the high level of debt in the world economy today, the default problem could become even worse in 2023 or 2024 than it was in 2008, if the economy slows again.
[5] Since 2015, oil and natural gas investments have remained at low levels because oil prices have not been high enough to justify drilling in the remaining places.
In my opinion, oil companies really need quite high oil prices, probably $120 per barrel or higher, on a consistent basis, to justify drilling in sufficient new locations to ramp up oil production. Since 2014, prices have generally remained far below that level. There was a major drop in oil prices in 2014 and 2015. In response to the lower oil prices, oil and gas companies cut back on investment in “Exploration and Production” (E&P). (Figure 7)
After a drop in E&P investments, oil production does not drop immediately. Instead, 2018 was the single highest year of oil production. Production looks likely to drop further because of the continued lack of investment (Figure 8).
[6] If we look across the major types of energy supply, we discover that “Wind and Solar” is the only category rising significantly faster than world population. Others tend to be flat or falling, on a per capita basis.
In Figure 9, the star performer is the category “Wind + Solar.” The main attraction of wind and solar today is the subsidies they get, and the mandates that require utilities to move away from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, wind and solar really aren’t terribly helpful as far as I can see, except from the point of view of the benefit of the subsidies they provide.
One of the problems with intermittent wind and solar is that they tend to drive nuclear electricity providers out of business because of the favorable rates they receive when wind and solar are allowed to go first, in competitive rating schemes. With this arrangement, the wholesale rates that nuclear providers receive often fall to negative amounts. Nuclear providers cannot close down for short periods with negative rates, so they tend to need subsidies to remain open. Figure 9 shows that the supply of nuclear electricity has been dropping since at least 2001. In fact, of all the energy types shown on Figure 9, nuclear’s production (relative to population) is dropping fastest.
In my opinion, our primary energy concern should be food production and transport. Diesel, made from oil, is the major fuel for agriculture. It will be decades before farming machinery and transport of food can be changed over to electricity, assuming this can be done at all. Until this happens, electricity’s role in getting food to the shelves of grocery stores will be limited.
Solar energy comes primarily in the summer but, unfortunately, in many places, the big need for heat energy is in the winter. People in Europe, with their many wind turbines and solar panels, are worried about possibly freezing in the dark this winter if natural gas supplies prove inadequate. We don’t have batteries for storing solar or wind energy for months on end, so they cannot be counted on for winter heat.
When homeowners put solar panels on their roofs, the electricity they sell to the utility is often “net metered” (credited with the full retail value of electricity that this home would pay). This is a huge subsidy to the owners of the solar panels because the value of the intermittent electricity to the utility is far less than this, probably closer to the cost of the natural gas or other fuel saved.
To make up for the loss of revenue caused by the overly generous compensation to solar panel owners, the utility is forced to raise rates for those without solar panels. Studies show that homeowners with solar panels tend to be wealthier than the renters and others who do not have the opportunity to add these subsidized solar panels. Thus, this is an example of a benefit for rich homeowners being paid for by less wealthy buyers of electricity.
I would also argue that the BP data I used to produce Figure 9 tends to give an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar. The approach used indirectly assumes that they fully replace the entire system of dispatchable electricity used today, rather than providing only intermittent electricity. The less generous approach (giving a little less than half as much credit) is used by the International Energy Association and by many researchers.
Furthermore, solar panels tend to pollute ground water when they are disposed of, so they are not very clean. Wind turbines are noisy, take up farmland, and kill bats and birds, so they have serious drawbacks as well.
Wind and solar are made and transported using fossil fuels. They cannot last any longer than today’s fossil fuel industry. In fact, roads and transmission lines require fossil fuels to continue. The whole system is likely to go down at approximately the same time.
It seems to me that the main reason why we hear so much about intermittent wind and solar is because there needs to be a hopeful narrative for politicians to provide to voters, and for educators to provide to students. Otherwise, the situation shown on Figure 9 looks grim. The fact that fossil fuel prices have been spiking in 2022 and regulators are trying to get these prices back down again is testimony to the fact that we are running short of cheap-to-produce fossil fuel energy.
[7] The incorrect narrative provided by mainstream media (MSM) is that climate change is our worst problem. To lessen this problem, citizens need to move quickly away from fossil fuels and transition to renewables. The real narrative is that we are running short of fossil fuels that can be profitably extracted, and renewables are not adequate substitutes. However, this narrative is too worrisome for most people to handle.
I expect most readers will say, your view can’t be right. We don’t read this story in the news. All we hear about is climate change and the need to reduce fossil fuel usage to prevent climate change.
In many ways, the narrative presented by MSM is less frightening to the public than a narrative in which fuels are already being stretched too thin. The MSM narrative sounds like a situation that we can perhaps live with and work around. It sounds like careers that people study for today will be useful in the future. It also sounds like homes, cars and factories built today will be useful in the future.
One major difference in the MSM view, relative to my view, is with respect to the amounts of fossil fuels that can be extracted. The standard narrative says we will extract all the fossil fuels that we have the technology to extract unless we make a concerted effort not to extract these fuels. For this to happen, demand (a favorite word of economists) must keep rising to keep prices high enough for businesses to want to continue extraction from fields plagued by depletion.
History shows that when an economy approaches limits, what tends to happen is that demand tends to fall too low. This happens because the physics of the way the economy works: Wage and wealth disparities tend to spike as energy resources are increasingly stretched thin. In fact, the great wealth of the top 1%, relative to that of the remaining 99%, is a major problem in the world today. When increasing wage and wealth disparity occurs, a growing number of poor workers find themselves with inadequate wages to buy food, homes, cars and other goods made with commodities, including oil.
There are so many of these poor workers that their lack of demand tends to bring down commodity prices without government intervention. If these low wages are not sufficient to hold down commodity prices, politicians will raise interest rates to try to get commodity prices down, so they can be re-elected. It is low fossil fuel prices that will drive fossil fuel providers out of business.
Of course, another part of the MSM narrative is the view that renewables can save the system. I explained in Section [6] why this cannot be the case for wind and solar. I didn’t say much about hydroelectricity, but it is already built out in most of the developed world. Electricity from hydroelectric plants tends to be intermittent, with the greatest supply coming in the spring, when snow melts. Like wind and solar, hydroelectric generation plants are built and repaired using fossil fuels. These facilities, and their transmission lines, will last only until parts break that cannot be repaired.
Notice how she looks completely different in the first photo?
https://www.vancouverislandfreedaily.com/news/saanich-community-shocked-saddened-by-loss-of-entrepreneur-and-her-baby/
Another two bite the dust… and another two gone… ‘angels’ hahaha
Looking at Deagal population figures for 2017-25 again and trying to make sense of them ( can they get me the lottery numbers too!) , I can’t help noticing that the countries most effected by declines are mostly high energy consuming western nations, and in particular those from the core ‘common law’ areas, including the US of course. I don’t claim expertise (and shouldn’t have to, since it’s common.) but this seems to correlate with the amount of resources thrown at these areas for covid response including unprecedented ‘massive’ vaccination campaign and uptake. As a congenital media cynic (‘if the media are pushing it…it’s bad for me’) the scale of the ‘event’ from the first weeks across pretty much all channels was enough to get my (admittedly paranoid) spidey senses engaged. Whatever that was coming, it wasn’t about the subject matter, but it was going to be big.
So onto the science fiction hypothesis (to avoid the ‘conspiracy’ tag).
If I wanted to rule the world and do my will , I’d see that certain areas as harder than others to conquer, obviously. For example all the trillions of lawfully held weapons in the US makes force impossible, or those non obedient populations suffering (as subjects) under common law. Simply put in common law ‘if it’s not forbidden then it is permitted’ as opposed to Roman/Napoleonic Law ‘if it’s not permitted , it’s forbidden’ – guilty until proved innocent, which puts the executive in the driving seat, and demands actively obedient citizens. Its easier to enforce medication, since as a citizen you must obey. As a subject, under common law, it’s up to you, it’s harder to enforce things, takes ages, needs more resources.
These resources were found and they went in hard, and sucker punched the comfortable populations. Aus/NZ Canada, certain populous (therefore relevant) US states …very high uptake, the U.K. needed nudge units and media coordination , costs more but as effective as those uniformed state officers in Italy and spain and France manning the local checkpoints. They couldn’t do this in the U.K.. we have the Peelian principles for policing, we’re all equal under common law so a police constable would be watching his back really, might get gaoled themself if too enthusiastic a fascist. They did it indirectly.
Back to the Deagal forecast. The common law areas got a number worked on them one way or another. Other industrial nations did as they were told but was easier. Obviously the vax is safe and effective , but in our wacky SCI fi world is a harbinger of generalised excessive mortality and infertility leading to these dysfunctional populations dropping in quick time. It knocks out populations that provide the lifestyle support to the rest of the worlds populations. low vaxx rate in Kenya, its got 55 million. Take away diesel, farm vehicles, fertiliser and lubricants previously made in the aforementioned high vax/depop zones and they don’t get no food no more.
Will we see 10 million in U.K. by 2025? 91 million in US?, do they just move to moon base alpha?
The entire Covid pandemic fiasco was a shock and awe operation. The two weeks to flatten the curve was never to be 2 weeks.
The Normies think (do they?) that the ‘Virus’ was the issue; it was always and everywhere merely a tool to install fear. The uptake of the injection (Dog Sh@t) was the game plan all along.
The lockdowns have put a spoke in the wheel of industry and the domino effects are becoming more apparent with time.
Its a safe space that Normies occupy when they use the tired old conspiracy line. How about actually debunking the excess deaths, the embalmers stories, the SAD phenomenum?
Guess the fraudulent activity of Pfizzer management was a conspiracy theory before the court cases confirmed the intention to conspire against full disclosure.
Conspire; To plan together secretly to commit an illegal or wrongful act ..
Its Normal.
Grow up.
“….The entire Covid pandemic fiasco was a shock and awe operation…”
Agree with you LastCall. Dr. Denis Rancourt does the best take on this with what he calls ‘all-cause mortality’ figures. It is worth looking into who he is and what he does.
On a lighter note: Nate Hagens has just interviewed Simon Michaux on his YT channel.
I agree. It looks like Deagel is expecting huge impacts of mRNA vaccines, where they are used.
The Deagel projections were made years before COVID or mRNA vaccines came about. The projections garnered publicity and Deagel eventually responded that the projected population loss in the USA was based on emigration out of the USA, not deaths.
Coincidentally, the 2/3 loss of population closely matches the fraction that took the vax, if you want to put the tin foil hat back on.
I find the tinfoil isn’t flexible enough and falls off my hat when I’m doing solar cooking demonstrations all day in the sun. It does help keeping the sun off a bit more, due to the higher reflectivity and lower surface absorption, than a regular cotton hat on a proper sunny day.
I can’t imagine why they would seriously suggest 200 million Americans would emigrate between ‘17-‘25? What kind of nonsense is that? No the Deagal charts are either made up by a sci fi writer or informed by special tin foil hat knowledge.
A special kind of nonsense.
That’s not the full story ivanislav.
They did indeed mention emigration as one of the reasons(only one of many), but were quickly pulled up about the idiocy of this.
They then admitted that it was implausible and put the greater number down to suicide(I guess injecting yourself with an unknown, untested substance from the world’s biggest criminals is akin to suicide, but I’m old fashioned and every time I consider it, all that come to mind is informed consent, which doesn’t sit well with the term suicide).
Still, that’s probably wrong as well, as no government agencies are promoting suicide are they?
Tin foil or what?
Yeah I glanced through the deagel chart jeremy posted and was disappointed to see that lots of poor countries had population and GDP increases forecasted for them, slower declines and I’d find that interesting, increases are odd.
In the German and Austrian law, which both still have elements of Roman law, it is allowed what is not forbidden.
If Corona were a US bioweapon, what some believe, it would make sense to have another outcome in the US and in other countries. For example a higher excess mortality rate in Europe. We are currently not seeing this.
all a ccccccccconspiracy Jan
The Chinese have lab-produced a virus with an aversion to oriental people
The American have produced a virus with an aversion to Republicans
All very sinister if you ask me
Actually, the lab produced a virus with an aversion to young, healthy people. If the desired result was to start eliminating old, sick people, this was a fine outcome.
Gail
Viruses represent forces we do not understand, and cannot control
in the 1918/21 pandemic, it tended to take young fit people, no one understood why.
–a logical suggestion since has been that there was a world outbreak of a similar virus in the 1889/90s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889–1890_pandemic
anyone born before that date would have been exposed to it.
anyone born after, say, 1895, would not. So there would have been no immuno-suppression in that age group. Hence when the1918/21 wave hit. all the young people, especially those crowded together by war, would have been hit by it. No immunity.
They would have been younger than 25-ish (that is not universal–before OFW’ers start jumping up and down)
The 1889 virus is believed to have cross-jumped from cows.
The point to bear in mind on all this is that our virus-conflicts are created by us, crowding animals (and ourselves) together too closely.
There is no ‘conspiracy’ just our own stupidity.
The 1889 virus killed 1.5 m–the 1918 virus killed 50m
This is why our powers-that-be had a knee jerk reaction to it.
This is all information on record…not just one of my crazy ideas
“Viruses represent forces we do not understand, and cannot control”
Will you just listen to yourself for a minute? It’s like a 1950s public service announcement. Who’s side are you on anyway? 🙂
reante
your comment in response to mine would seem to suggest that viruses can be controlled and understood.
evidence would suggest otherwise.
evidence would also suggest that they (rogue viruses) emanate through our inclinations to crowd animals (and ourselves) together in unnatural habitats–feedlots, chicken farms and so on., because that is more profitable for us. (Cities are just human feedlots btw—feel free to contradict me if you see them as something else.)
Animals by nature do not crowd themselves into feedlots.
‘side’ has nothing to do with it. I am on no one’s side. Silly concept there.
we are in the process of tearing the earth apart for ‘profit’, it seems eminently logical to me that the earth should protect itself from our predations.
You are entitled to think otherwise.
You might conceive of ‘intelligence’ only on human terms. But imagine the earth itself as having an ‘awareness’ beyond our level of understanding. Would it not protect itself against what we are doing?
Nonsense??–OK.
But lump together repeated virus outbreaks, (rapid) climate change, starvations, constant resource wars–and what other conclusion would you arrive at.?
If, as Norman says, we don’t understand and can’t control viruses, he would never have gone along with the new control mechanisms and the clearly (by his own words) false gods of viral understanding.
Did he?
my comment was offered in the ‘overall’ sense.
it has nothing to do with individual choices on vaxxing
I think that there is really a Higher Power behind the whole ecosystem that makes it work, in the strange direction it works. We are not witnessing a conspiracy; we are witnessing large numbers of people working in the direction of their own interests, insofar as they understand their own interests.
Thus, politicians work in the direction of getting re-elected. This is the one thing that they can clearly understand. The political leanings of the politicians tend to follow the needs of those in their jurisdiction. If there are a lot of poor people, or a lot of idealistic highly educated people, they will want the output of society spread as evenly as possible. If there are a lot of people working hard to try to earn a living, but finding a lot of it goes to taxes, they will emphasize programs that distribute the wealth of the country more in relationship to work performed, rather than just hand-outs to everyone.
People need to have a happy ever after ending. Researchers will build a models with a happy ever after ending, whenever possible, or even when it is not possible, to please their bosses (and to get a raise). Investors don’t necessarily care whether the happily ever after ending is ever achieved. What they want is to earn a profit as they go along. If the profit comes from government subsidies, they are likely to think that that is perfectly OK. They may be perfectly happy if “news media” give a happily ever after slant to stories that come out because that will sell more products.
There is no conspiracy, just people looking after their own interests.
Gail
I’m glad the ‘conspiracy’ thing has been got rid of, at least as far as you are concerned.
as to ‘higher power’ that is something relative to personal belief and in that respect i do not get into dispute about it–either way.
Viruses seem to appear in reaction to our foolish behaviour in herding ourselves and animals in unnatural ways. They mutate to jump species.
With very limited exceptions, people do work to further their own interests, politicians or anyone else. We seem to have little choice in that respect.
I seek out a partner, and we, (in the normal course of events) reproduce ourselves. I/we then have a compulsion to care for them as best we can. Usually we succeed, and trust to luck that they succeed in their turn.
This is a matter of ‘furthering our own interests.’
That’s the way nature itself seem to work.
So virus-spread , and thus the results of it. cannot be controlled. Which would seem to eliminate any form of ‘deliberation’ on the part of anybody. Any virologist would know that. As would anyone with a shred of common sense.
Conspironuts have their own agenda of course.
Social media then spreads it.
I related the 1889 outbreak to the 1918 outbreak to pinpoint the age-related susceptibility to the disease, which was roughly 25 or younger. A logical reason. I don’t pretend to have proof of that.
Dullardism
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Norm
You no longer get to act edumacated towards reante WRT ‘viruses’ because a couple weeks ago I cornered you in to ‘pleading the fifth’ regarding their existence as independent pathogens. So you no longer get to say to me that “evidence would suggest otherwise.”
That’s how that works, friend. What’s done is done. The damage is done.
As for you weaponizing my little ‘who’s side are you on’ joke against me – that just further betrays your weak hand on this topic.
reante
my ‘pleading the 5th’ as you put it was, as i think i said, purely relative to my personal opinion on vaxxing, whether to have it or not.
You might have pole vaulted to other conclusions. Your problem, not mine.
In pleading the 5th—i was offering no opinion either way as to the conduct of others, I don’t get all hysterical at people who have or don’t have the vax, because i dont know enough to do that.
Comments on OFW in that respect simply reveal childish thought processes. (eg—I am now responsible for the death of every child for the last 2 years, including traffic accidents). Herod would have been proud of me I think.
my last comment on this thread was to offer opinions on origins and reasons for its appearance every few decades. If you think its ‘normal’ for species (including us) to be herded into close proximity–fair enough.
I can only point to the fact that plagues begin in areas of dense population. You appear to be of scientific disposition—suggest an alternative root cause.?? Or that they do not?
Not interested in weak/strong hand. I just try to present info already out there.
The 1889/1918 age thing is just another thread on it. In 1889 it was called ‘Russian flu.
Nothing conclusive of course
Fitz
Good catch!
Let us count the ways…:)
Norm
That’s pure revisionism. Your pleading the fifth was not regarding the vax. Poor show.
no doubt you will remind me what it was reante
An interview with an expert on the Spanish Influenza of 1918. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjHbogeWiXU
thanks for that link Kew–really informative
Interesting discussion. As far as I know the VAX has an aversion against young, fit, healthy people. They have a higher risk for myocarditis.
There is no statistical hint that young people would die more often on Covid. There is statistical data though, that age and the metabolic syndrome are risk factors to covid.
And I give you .. a bit of Koombaya…. the Elders do not agree — they see 8B cockroaches sucking up all the cheap oil and other resources…
Yesiree that is what they see. And they’ve seen Springer…
And now they are doing something about it.
Another truth nobody wants to know. And will never accept
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/a-global-proclamation
A Global Proclamation from Doctors Around the World
We, the citizens of the world, loyal to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, have come together here in Austria to proclaim the following:
That each human life is sacred, invaluable and should both respected and honored
Our children are our most valuable treasure, and their childhood and future should be protected by providing safe haven, education, arts and other resources to guarantee they will flourish in any endeavor they may choose
Our children are also our future, and must be cherished and protected. They should not be used as battlefield objects for cultural warfare.
We need to protect the most vulnerable in our society by supporting wellness and respecting human dignity.
Public debate is profoundly important. It is unacceptable for public health professionals, officials or governments to censor, silence or intimidate the public, doctors, medical professionals or journalists.
Trust cannot be enforced. Public health recommendations should present facts as the basis for guidance, and never employ fear or shame to manipulate or force people.
Trust in public health must earned not assumed. Integrity and transparency are essential.
Freedom of assembly and speech are fundamental human rights. Disrespecting these rights is an affront to human dignity.
Use of psychological operations and mandate strategies and tactics to coerce and compel acceptance of medical products and procedures is a fundamental breach of well-established medical ethics.
Our bodies, our families, our choice. No medical mandates.
During this season of hope and renewal, we stand here in support of good will, family and shared community. We are all connected with these universal truths; the importance of human dignity, integrity, personal sovereignty, and the fundamental rights to assemble, speak freely, and to protect future generations.
truth?
Truth?
what is this truth you speak of?
I get it Pontius Pilate
The truth is planet Earth is overpopulated and the elders are trying to save us from ourselves utilising a bioweapon delivered to us promoted as a harmless vaccine the death rate will explode within ten years.
In this blog we have been discussing since years that energy per capita will decline and it is a logical consequence to assume that if energy is reduced also capita must be reduced to keep the equation, life standards, equal. The big question is, if this idea is deployable or if the reduction leads to a reduction of complexity that leads to crashes.
One might think, that the best of all bad outcomes os better than the worst.
More likely may be thought that the euthanasation of old and weak unproductive people might be helpful in a war. And a war seems inevitable to me as the oil concentrates at regions Nato has no access to. And those that have oil longer than others will of course dominate those without militarily and economically.
In the US it is not popular to have soldiers dying in a war. Not unthinkable WHO and Silicon Valley is meant to be a replacement in favor of US domination – which in the past kept the oil markets open. But if soldiers are not needed, the size of the population is not relevant to victory, that is the backside. China has a much larger reservoir of soldiers than all the rest. If you cannot compete on that terrain you need another. That may be a trigger of the development.
Of course these are not my favoured thoughts, I have another approach to what is humanity, but I try to understand strategies.
Of course there might be religious fundamentalism behind all, but that would not exclude above strategies.
When Napoleon crushed the Austrian and Russian Empires at Austerlitz, William Pitt the Younger, long time Prime Minister of Great Britain (the term United Kingdom began to be used in his lifetime), died. His last words were “Roll the map of Europe; it won’t be used again for 10 years.”
Pitt , who was the son of the Earl of Chatham, better known as William Pitt the Elder, was one of the Owners and he understood people like Napoleon were fleeting and people like him would be forever. (He himself didn’t reproduce but his privileges were inherited by a distant relative.)
People who are Owners are taught different philosophies, way different from those who crave success. They see things in generational terms. As long as they remain owners, they always find a way to come back.
Peak Oil is a non event for them. They will defend their land with the available methods after PO. As long as their land ownership is secure, they will be a bit less comfortable but would not be desperate.
People who are not owners can never understand that. Trump is not an owner. Musk is not an owner. Gates is not an owner, which, after listening to Warren Buffett (remember, his dad was a congressman!), bought a lot of farmlands and became an owner.
Fame and power are fleeting. The local boy/girl who was a tenant but made big in sports, showbiz, politics, business, whatever, they are forgotten after they die. If lucky they will kick out the local owner and become an owner him/herself, but like the story Wuthering Heights, their rule rarely last beyond one generation.
The Owner returns, since all the local structure are still there. The people are till there and they still fear the Owner who can return any time. The Owner extracts retribution from those who thought they were doing better, and everything returns to what it always was, as if nothing happened.
The Owners know that while most people don’t. I was drilled this lesson day and night and can recite the exact words even now when my grandparents are long gone.
Are you expecting to get “your land” back, Kulm? Does any body else also claim ownership of your ancestral acres?
I knew a Jewish man whose family had owned property in Bombay, but when they fled India at the time of independence, squatters took over and, in the course of time, they claimed ownership. This man launched a suit to reclaim title to the property in the 1970s; he hun in there, and the litigation ended successfully for him in the 1990s.
In the late 1940s, when McArthur was ruling/governing Japan, he pushed through a land reform that overturned centuries of land ownership by giving title to people who worked the fields. A lot of landlords lost out financially, and a lot of peasants gained title to land their families had worked for centuries. As far as I know, these landlords have not tried to regain title to anything, and in the case of farmland, even the current owners often abandon their property because they don’t want to go to the bother of growing rice when they can buy all they need cheaply at the supermarket.
Chinese landowners under Mao didn’t do nearly so well. The Maoists treated the “Landlords” much as the Stalinist treated the “Kulaks”, and often worse, leaving them with no options for regaining their property since the dead don’t litigate and the very records of previous property ownership have been destroyed.
When my husband and I visited St. Petersburg in Russia a few years ago, we visited an apartment that had been made from a huge apartment of an aristocrat. I think this was the result of the 1917-18 revolution. If I remember correctly, each large apartment was made into six smaller apartments. The apartments still share a single toilet and a single bathtub. There is one kitchen area that houses six stoves.
The apartment we visited housed a couple with a little boy. The apartment consisted of two rooms, besides the shared kitchen space. One room was a bedroom that the parents shared. It also housed the books and other materials of the husband, who was a college professor. The other room was the living room. It also served as the bedroom of the little boy. The wife had a different professional job. They said they didn’t feel that they could have any more children because there was no space for another child in the apartment.
I don’t think that the family of the aristocrat is getting the apartment back, either.
All I got from my grandparents were the lessons and the discipline so I have not been able to regain my ancestral lands but it might be for the better since after Peak Oil there will be less defense on there. I never visited but heard it is now a wasteland.
In the moment the authority of the state crashes property laws will be gone.
The Austrian imperor had to go after his government failed to feed the people in WW1. The food was there but it never reached the people. The state crashed and was splitted into three national states.
The problem to come is energy. The Owners in the past had a system to generate the necessary energy from within their land. They themselves or hired talents could secure that, they even could defend or enlarge their territory.
The Owners today are not preparing for a structure that allows them to stay independend from oil. They rely on technologies that need fossile fuels.
Even if some of them would start a different form of agriculture, a different way of settling and promote handicraft, perhaps with the help of enthusiasts there still would be the problem that those who have fossile fuels longer than others can easily dominate those that have not. And that means they will strip them off their resources, be it metal ore or arable land or pretty women.
And if there is a larger blackout or a strong economic crash noone can stop the populace to knock down the forests, steal the crop on the fields and take land not owned by them to start a garden.
This time it is different.
@Dennis
All you have to know about class is in The Great Gatsby.
F. Scott Fitzgerald actually hung around the true upper class in his younger age. Although critics of Gatsby says he is modeled on Fitzgerald himself , it is more likely that Nick Carraway, the only person who knows everything but chooses to run away, is Fitzgerald himself.
Daisy Buchanan is based on a woman he was hanging with, She married a rich Chicago mogul who was running some huge mills. No one talks about where their descendants are.
Tom Buchanan is modeled after Tommy Hitchcock Jr. He was a celebrity in his own days, flying to his Manhattan stockbroker’s office with his own plane from his opulent mansion in Long island every day. He later died testing a P-51 Mustang in England during World War 2.
Paul Fussell wrote a book called “Class”. Long story short, people like Trump or Musk are seen always so they are not really upper class. The truly chic are not known to ordinary people; they even use names which are not very conspicuous, like Matt Ridley , a science writer in UK, full title Matthew White Ridley, 5th Viscount Ridley, DL, FRSL, FMedSci,.
There is something called social register. Similar to the list of landed gentry, which is still kept by Burke’s (better known for publishing the book for every European title, extant or extinct), It only lists the person’s name, parents, marital status, children(if any) and that’s it.
In the earlier days of snapchats, there were a bunch of younger people, all white and seem to be well to do, flounting their luxurious lifestyles. They didn’t list their names ; there was no need to do so since the people on their circles knew who they were and there was no reason to let others know about their identities.
It is said that the truly chic only shows up on newspapers three times in his/her life; when they were born, when they got married and when they died. Whatever they did, unless they were attention seekers, never made it to the papers.
That is the upper class.
In Count Tolstoy’s book Kreutzer Sonata, Pozdnyshev, a Russian nobleman with a lot of land, kills his wife in a bout of jealousy and is set scot free. Such was how civilization worked back then. A similar situation occurred in USA when Harry Thaw, a multi millionaire’s son, killed Stanford White, a famous architect, over a showgirl. Thaw was set free. (That incident probably inspired Ayn Rand’s Fountainhead.)
Such is civilization and upper class.
The upper class people Fitzgerald had associated with are not in the news. No one knows what their descendants are doing; chances are they are comfortable, collecting bond interests and rents from the real estates tied in some trust no one can trace to them, and have nice house in the hills, as Reante has described, which will protect them.
Fitzgerald wasted all of his money, and his only child lived in relative poverty until her dad’s book became hot again after World War 2. One of her daughters married an upper-middle class man who became somewhat famous in the tech field. Did Fitzgerald’s family finally rise high enough to stand with the descendants of the upper class people he used to hang around?
No. Never. Such bloodlines are , for all practical purposes, sacred.
Very interesting yes the owners are hidden in plain sight slowly sowing or brainwashing the masses to accept their fate
A straight forward observation I make to green energy enthusiasts. If solar or wind is so good and will solve our energy issues you would think that at least every manufacturer of solar and wind would be totally running their factories on that energy alone. I guess even for them the economics don’t make sense once storage is added in (as we all know intermittent power is not useful). I figure if they can’t/won’t do it then it is a non starter.
How dare you allow facts and logic to intrude into the green grooopies delusion!
its ok eddy
nothing to worry about
they were alternative facts–your favorite kind
The planets circling the Sun was an alternative once upon a time.
‘Alternative Fact’ is your new Safe Space, to go alongside conspirabolics?
Back in the day norm would have been insisting the Earth was flat and calling for the head of anyone who suggested otherwise.
right norm hahahaha… you can’t even see how ridiculous you are — 7 shots of rat juice will do that to a person
I could imagine Norman had an old-school doctor, who responsibly injected seven times a mild natriumclorid solution because he knows about the power of placebo.
As a consequence Norman gets some troubles in a forum but stays healthy and sound. And the later is what a doc is responsible for!
The renewables I believe are for post collapse when fossil fuels are down to a trickle.
problem is that they can’t replace themselves.
A small group of hunter gatherers can live on renewables. Modern renewables require fossil fuels and our whole complex system.
15 minutish mark onwards https://thehighwire.com/videos/the-highwires-lab-investigation-of-covid-vaccines/
Dr. Ryan Cole explains that the mRNA vaccines were using a technology that was designed to cross the blood-brain barrier. The technology was aimed at techniques to stop brain cancer. Hiding the technology in nanoparticles, and claiming the the nanoparticles would stay in the arm, was clear nonsense.
The video shows little slides of different parts of the body where dots of spike protein are found, practically none of which is where they should be found.
Oh but suggesting there are nefarious goings on here that would lead anyone with an IQ over room temperature that the end goal is mass murder…
Well that’s nonsense … that’s a conspiracy theory.. that’s outrageous!
So he is stepping down because of a Twitter poll….
Like I said — the Elders control every MSM outlet — big tech you name it — but they fear Musk… hahaha
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/elon-musk-set-to-step-down-as-twitter
Certainly getting interesting.
I prefer entertaining vs interesting …
As in The Larry David Show is entertaining…
https://youtu.be/tVqDxLiT36s
https://youtu.be/8GzAmLozd6Y
According to this post,
I didn’t expect this outcome. With less energy, we can’t really have a “one world government” outcome, but I suppose people can be led to believe that we can.
I thought that Musk might be able to turn the control of Twitter over to a hand-picked leader, but I haven’t been reading much about this.
a ‘hand picked leader’ is of little use if there is nothing to lead.
Twitter is a unique combination of electrical impulses, it doesn’t actually exist in a tangible form.
if twitter becomes unusable at the hands of the millions who choose to use it, then surely it will leave no more impression that switching off a light.
anyone staring at the light is left with a fading impression on their retinas but nothing else.
Musk is an avatar… he represents ‘our hopes and dreams for a better world’
He is the techno saviour delivering us from fossil fuels (although he has multiple private jets)… that’s of course false
And he’s being put forward as the man who will save us from a world that is going more ‘insane’ by the day… also false.
The Elders run the world. Everyone who knows that fears them and does what they are told. Musk is part of the Deep State apparartus.
Nothing is real. Nothing is as it seems. That is all make believe — it’s all a creation of the MSM … of the education system .. of Hollywood.
We need to be careful not be fooled by this… we can be entertained.. but not fooled.
I am to the point of scoffing at everything … yet the MSM and the billions of followers believe the Matrix is real .. it is their reality … they think about it they talk about it … it’s one gigantic heap of shit .. but to them it is all real.
I am entertained. Nothing more. Biden is amusing … Trump was and is amusing … it’s like watching a circus… and a freak show … all rolled into one!
Ever watched monkeys in the zoo? Observe close and mentally peel away the theatrics and etiquette from a tree dwelling primate and it’s obvious, isn’t it?
All they want is climb to the “top” while feeling good about themselves and reveling in the status quo.
In some cases it’s merely a sense of belonging, to fit into the herd that is of essence. They’ll craft their theatrics and ego to automatically respond to various psychosocial scenarios. Automatic (genetic) ‘In group’ psychosocial conditioning routines and neurological pathway defaults. Yes it is explicitly coded Pavlovian responses originating from the mammalian/primate region of the brain.
They’ll rather subconsciously work on the theatrics, ego and maintaining the status quo than giving it a second thought.
Believe me; without the orchestration (Matrix) we’d still be flying flint tipped arrows and stones at each other and various prey.
I’m sure you’d not like living in the “default” setting of hoomans sans conditioning. IC is cringe, but somewhat passable where the worst awfulness can be dodged, (and simultaneously expressed on TikTok).
“Their morals, their code; it’s a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They’re only as good as the world allows them to be.
You’ll see- I’ll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They’ll eat each other.
See; I’m not a monster, I’m just ahead of the curve.”
— The Joker
‘They are so easily controlled – that they must be controlled’ Fast Eddy (TM)
https://youtu.be/WufKsOhkTL8
The elders are the Illuminati masters of propaganda Musk is a pawn used and abused to brainwash the masses .
Who wants a jolt of endorphins – click here hahaha https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60459
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/tom-browning-former-reds-pitcher-who-threw-perfect-game-in-1988-dies-at-62/
But was he vaxxed and boosted, no one even wants to ask?
“Former MLB starting pitcher Tom Browning died at the age of 62 on Monday. The Boone County, Kentucky, Sheriff made the announcement that Browning was found unresponsive and “resuscitation efforts were not successful.” The release also states that “no foul play is suspected in connection with Mr. Browning’s death.”
no foul play is suspected
hahaha… might I suggest the most foul of play was involved… it involved injecting rat juice in a Crime Against Humanity … which is not really a crime if you accept that most humans are MORE-ONS
For norm since he’s a fan of rat juice for kids (so he can stay alive)
Emergency services were called to reports of a child in cardiac arrest this afternoon. West Midlands Ambulance service and West Midlands Police were both in attendance in Dudley from around 3.20 pm. Images sent in to BirminghamLive from the Bourne Street site show ambulances at the scene this afternoon, December 9. A heavy police presence was also on the scene. Two ambulance service rapid response vehicles and two ambulances, as well as two police cars could be seen outside the nursery.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/massive-emergency-response-child-suffers-25718401
hang on to your version of truth eddy
it’s all you’ve got
The UK is showing strains. The British state likes to boast that it is a ‘democracy’, even a ‘mature’ one, but that posture seems to be a luxury that it can no longer afford. It remains to be seen whether the open denial of democracy to Scots is currently viable. After all, Brits have been encouraged to frame the UK as ‘democratic’ as the prime ‘justification’ for its existence.
It seems to be a disastrous strategy to tell Scots that they are not allowed to vote for independence. The Westminster politicians have not got a clue what they are doing, or they would have held a referendum last year. The longer that they hold it off, the more that the pro-independence younger demographic is liable to prevail. It could get very ugly if Westminster maintains its line.
Blocs/ unions/ states are liable to come under increased strain as the energy crisis unfolds. ‘Do you remember democracy? The illusion was nice while it lasted. But of course, it was premised on the era of cheap, plentiful energy. Where did I leave my sword and bagpipes?”
> Support for Scottish independence continues in sixth Yes-backing poll
A new Panelbase survey showed support for independence was at 52%
A SIXTH poll in a row has found support for independence is outstripping that of the Union.
Following the Supreme Court ruling which said Holyrood could not legislate for indyref2 without Westminster consent, support for independence has risen as high as 56%.
The latest Panelbase survey for The Sunday Times recorded an increase of three points in the Yes vote, up from 46% to 49% and a fall in the No vote, down three points from 48% to 45% since the newspaper last polled in August.
Results showed that 6% remained undecided and, once these were excluded, support for independence was at 52% compared with 48% to remain in the UK.
Polling expert Sir John Curtice said the balance of public opinion appears to have titled in favour of Yes for the first time in two years.
Former SNP deputy Westminster leader Kirsten Oswald said that the Supreme Court verdict had galvanised the Yes movement.
She said: “More and more people recognise independence not just as desirable but necessary.
“This surge in support will be terrifying the Westminster establishment. The more that Sunak and Starmer tell us we have no right to decide our future, the more people in Scotland will stand up and demand that basic democratic right.”
The latest Times poll marks the sixth poll showing majority support for independence since the Supreme Court ruling.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/23198480.support-scottish-independence-continues-sixth-yes-backing-poll/
I expect that we will end up with a lot of little independent “states,” none of which can support a very high population. Trade among states will fall very low. Fighting among states will be high.
Yep, the conflicts will largely be over access to resources, which is a very ancient song. Resources ‘belong’ to whoever can take them and hold them – until someone else takes them.
The world is a dynamic place, and ‘property rights’ are entirely imaginary. Cheap plentiful energy has allowed us often to pretend otherwise, but reality is liable to reassert itself.
All ‘titles’ and ‘entitlements’ will be tested in the element of force. The old way is a dynamism of contest and not a stability of claims, and thus the vigour of the species is constantly renewed.
This is of course logical and almost certain. My question is, how fast?
All evidences of rapidly approaching true cataclysm points to the late 2030s. A full dust shell explosion off the solar surface will likely happen during low sunspot timing of the solar cycle.
Regardless of whether you believe/appreciate the likelihood of micronova do you think western societies will be fragmented to the degree that forcible return to “ medieval” level technology will be present in parts of the west?
Elites overflying vast regions with no power and returning to natural state. Like the Anunna of ancient times.
Don’t take that comment seriously … how can there be little states when there is no food — and the spent fuel ponds are spewing?
I saw youtube presentation where it was claimed that most of the radioactivity dissipates within the first year and after that the waste can’t go critical and active cooling is no longer needed.
There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.
One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/
The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.
Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/
I saw thousands of videos that insist we will make a transition to renewable energy within a decade.
Then why do they stuff the active cooling pools to the gills instead of just pulling out the year-olds and sticking them in a regular swimming pool? Why spend the money on dry casking?
Scotland has sheep and fish. Likewise New Zealand has sheep and fish.
distinguishing between the two can be difficult though
Not for long.
Why is Ben at suspicious observer so wrong on timing?
Why do you say this? It appears multiple venues are focusing on mid 2030s to mid 2040. Ben is pretty open to solar flare taking out entire world electric infrastructure far earlier also.
Maybe I’m mistaken but I thought he was looking to the near-term, this coming January or February. Is that someone else?
He has been consistent for a decade. Late 2030s or early 2040s. Must be someone else. There is no shortage of prophets out there.
Ok thanks beg your pardon.
Throw off the yoke of Paki and Indian oppression.
Hear, hear!
Nothing like a good tell it like it is video blog.
Hey Fast Eddy,
Just finished listening to an interview between George Gammon and Doomberg:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eEqfCSAPIwo
The first 19 minutes are focused on the recent fusion “breakthrough” and the risks associated with fission power. Doomberg is of the mind that the narrative of nuclear meltdowns jeopardizing the future of mankind are greatly exaggerated. While he didn’t speak to spent fuel ponds directly, it was interesting as one of the main reasons I’ve been so opposed to nuclear over the years was the risks involved with dealing with spent fuel.
Anyways, if you have a chance to listen I’d be interested to hear your thoughts, or check out any links you may have that take an opposing view to that of Doomberg.
Cheers,
-GBV
Thx Gail!
Some oil production charts by Bison…and unfortunately some investment advice…
https://mobile.twitter.com/BisonInterests/status/1604142382995410945
Those are certainly nice charts.
Now that I think about it, increased demand from China could pull oil prices up, for a while. I suppose that printed money from elsewhere could, as well, especially if it gets back to low-wage workers. But the overall path will not be enough to raise oil production.
Oil prices are too low for OPEC to invest in future production, and mature fields are too depleted for them to raise production any time soon. The story is similar with USA shale.
The reopening of China is liable to lead to higher prices, but OPEC would need a sustained price over $100 to raise production and that is doubtful. There seems to be little confidence right now about future oil supply.
“Global oil inventory is at the lowest level since 2004”
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/The-Era-Of-Cheap-Oil-Has-Come-To-An-End.html
> The Era Of Cheap Oil Has Come To An End
Structural underinvestment in new oil supply may lead to structurally higher prices.
…. Investment banks expect higher oil prices, despite a recent slump prompted by expectations of an economic slowdown pretty much across the globe. The expectations, now beginning to seep into trader circles, too, are largely based on China’s reversal of its zero-Covid policy. But they also probably take into account the fact that oil remains an indispensable commodity. And the era of cheap oil may well be over for good.
“We remain constructive on oil prices driven by recovering demand (China reopening, aviation recovering) amid constrained supply due to low levels of investment, risks to Russia supply, the end of SPR releases, and slowdown of U.S. shale,” Morgan Stanley said this week in a note.
Yet the situation may be a lot more serious with regard to supply, as noted in a recent market commentary by TortoiseEcoFin’s President and Portfolio Manager, Matt Sallee.
“Global oil inventory is at the lowest level since 2004, the Department of Energy has released 200 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve this year, OPEC continues to struggle to produce at their stated quota and US producers are helping but can only do so much.”
This is a pretty succinct description of the global oil supply situation, but the picture is not one that would invoke positive emotions. It is one that is more likely to evoke concern, and with a good reason. Because there is little evidence that any of these trends will change meaningfully any time soon.
OPEC, for example, has zero motivation to try and boost production, Sallee noted in follow-up comments for Oilprice. It would only do so if it knows oil will remain over $100 per barrel for a longer period of time, but there is no way to be confident about this right now.
Then there are the purely physical constraints on OPEC production, as evidenced by the consistent failure of the group to hit its own—reduced—production targets. Most OPEC members have ambitious production growth plans, but they remain plans while actual production remains subdued for reasons such as natural depletion at mature fields and, ultimately, not enough investment.
As Sallee notes, OPEC has not consistently produced more than 30 million bpd since 2015-2018 when it did so deliberately in a bid to destroy U.S. shale and, to a great extent, succeeded, temporarily. And that’s because it neither wants to nor can it do so.
Underinvestment is turning into a thing in U.S. shale as well, at least from the perspective of the White House. According to the Biden administration, all U.S. producers need to do is spend more on additional production. According to the U.S. producers themselves, the long-term outlook for oil demand is too uncertain about investing in more production.
Then there is the issue of prime acreage, which several experts have been warning is running out. TortoiseEcoFin’s Sallee is among them: “Best acreage has been drilled, the industry is struggling to attract labor and has limited sources of financing,” he told Oilprice.
According to him, U.S. oil production is unlikely to ever again record annual output increase rates of 1 million bpd or more, as it did in the recent past. A growth rate of 500,000 to 750,000 bpd is far more likely, he believes. And that’s not good news for consumers because demand, although targeted by the energy transition camp, is not going down soon.
The International Energy Agency, one of the most active members of the energy transition movement, in its latest Oil Market Report revised upwards its forecast for global oil demand next year because of an unexpected increase in consumption this year….
Of course, Irina Slav, misses the point that the conclusion, “The Era of Cheap Fuel Is Over,” is wrong. She has listed to too many economists and peak oilers.
What happens when prices remain low is that production continues to fall further because companies fall ever-further behind in the investment needed for more production. The lower production means fewer jobs that pay well, and fewer finished goods and services. A likely outcome is a financial crash. There is likely to be more conflict and more broken supply lines. There is no reason to believe that there will be high prices, and production will head back to normal.
We may very well have more crazy stories that end with, “Everyone should be frightened about X and stay home.” Or we may see collapsing intergovernmental groups, or country governments.
Right, the historical era of _cheap, plentiful_ oil is over. And that does not imply that there will be ‘expensive, plentiful’ oil either – or ‘plentiful’ oil, period. Rather the oil price will remain inadequate to finance increased production, and oil supply will be increasingly constrained.
The ‘window’ between the price that oil producers need, and the price that oil consumers can afford, will no longer be there, and both actual demand and supply will be increasingly constrained. Mature fields will deplete, and there will be inadequate investment in future fields, which in any case would be less than prime as the best are gone.
The situation increasingly becomes one of SHTF with conflicts, diversions away from consumption, financial crashes, failed blocs/ states.
The End of BAU means a huge correction of how the owners of civilization will treat the tenants and other guests will take place.
Unbelievable cruelty to the tenants and others will wait.
The owners will have a life-or-death power over the tenants, whom the owners will have the rights to kill.
I am unrepentant on what my grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on did to the tenants for at least 300 years. That spirit made me, even though they ended up with nothing, since they taught me to not respect the non-owners of civilization , an attitude which has kept me alive to this day.
We would like to think that this is not the case, but you may be right.
I expect most readers of this blog come from the privileged class. Most are college grads, or even have advanced degrees. Most in the US came from families that owned their own homes, I expect.
I worked very hard for my privilege, thank you. My dad was not an MD, he was a cop and I came from the wrong side of the tracks, indeed damn close to those tracks.
Even the poor can own their own homes, just finished mandatory CE for my broker’s license. There is money for down payments available in MN, it can be done.
There is more opportunity in this nation than any place on earth, ask those millions walking here. They have lived hard, many will know and recognize BS when they hear it.
It was the elites who tore our nation apart, shipped the working class jobs out so they could collect more capital, took BS courses at elite schools and never ran a lemonade stand, but damn they can write policy.
I lived through Viet Nam, was at the VA and saw what came back without parts. All so some clown could write policy and skim off the wealth.
Count me as one of the “deplorables.”
Dennis L.
These are the benefits of living in the country that was able to pillage the world of resources ensuring many of their citizens had the opportunity to Live Large…
Of course there are all those billions who live on 2 bucks a day because they’ve been pillaged.
One can be forgiven for not acknowledging that
I can’t get this tune out of head!
Red or black, beige or brown
Yellow or blue may knock you down
Green or mauve, tan or gray
May all look the other way
But when you got white privilege, white privilege
You don’t have to show it
White privilege, white privilege
They don’t have to know it….
Kul,
Not how it works, owners’ of capital are captive to that capital unless it can be used by AI and machines; that looks to be possible in the near future.
All the stuff is owned by those who use it, marginal costs are not the same as asset costs.
Ask someone who owns an office building, strip mall or major mall, all sunk costs with minimal free cash flow. TM notes this issue in his latest post.
Dennis L.
Dennis L becoming an unpaid salesman for the Chamath guy is quite interesting.
I already explained who the Chamath guy is. Chamath has an engineering degree but he has been a vulture capitalist all his life.
His prime concern is making money for himself, not for any advancement.
He will say anything to attract people with money. As long as he profits, all is well. Whether whatever he is peddling will help humankind is another question.
Outside this morning, I heard squawking overhead and way up there was one of the largest flocks of geese that I’ve ever seen, flying in a big V.
They were headed NORTH.
I saw another one, not this large, going NORTH on Nov. 30.
These geese must have the Moreon Syndrome???
Maybe they got the bird flu vax….. northern version???
I’m in far southwest Arkansas and we have single digit temperatures forecast for late this week??
That’s horrible. Some ornithology groups out there must be tracking flocks like this.
I am not so surprised. Arkanas is a rather warm country, right? Where I live in France, in the foothills of the Alps, we see more and more species of migratory birds staying in the winter or coming back in February. Yesterday morning I could see several Red Kites, a beautiful bird usually absent in winter. Sometimes a stray wagtail wanders by. Birds adapt easily to new conditions, it seems to me.
Yeah I dropped the ball on that one. Too much catastrophism. Thanks for picking it up. I looked at the migration map for Canadian geese and there’s lots of winter grounds north of Arkansas for hundreds of miles. That ground and Arkansas itself is color coded as scarcity grounds, The main winter grounds are west of there. I guess for when it’s a lean winter. So it seems to make sense that a big flock would fly high like eKnock said if they’re going a good distance.
Maybe eKnock can say what the fall grass growing was like this year. It was terrible in Oregon, we had an Indian summer which made for a very short fall. The summer drought in Oregon always makes the grass go into pretty deep dormancy and it had very little time to wake up and get going this year before winter.
I enjoy reading your analysis of the energy situation, would like to see your actuarial approach applied to the real “energy economics” of production of electricity by solar panels and windmills incorporating a realistic evaluation of the costs of mining and refining the metals used in these things and the net amount of energy used in the entire process, and including batteries required to store some of this energy
What you are discussing is EROI envelope. Gail doesnt like EROI but i think its a fine metric. All metrics have limitations and all metrics are subject to abuse and use as tools of deception. This book while it doesnt go as far your request as energy consumption in mining raw materials demonstrates that the EROI of Photovoltaic is quite low when the the envelope is truthful. Another issue as Gail rightfully points out is the energy cost of disposal of old PV panels. This is another energy input that can be put in the minus column in PV EROI. THey do last a long time. As they age more old panels can be combined for the same output as less panels. As I remember at 20 years they are at half the power output as new. If you have a 3000 watt string with 1500 watt minium needed you would need another 1500 watts of panels at 20 years. at 20 years a 1000 watts of new panels would be neccesary Still at 40 or 50 years or probably sooner they are kaput. Once again it is the storage capacity not the panels that are the deal breaker. I see the commercial farms pointing there panels east west and south and belief this is because the panels are cheap and storage is expensive. pointing east and west as well as south evens out the power production while sun is shining requiring less storage capacity.
Any way you cut it the PV panels are a function of easy to extract fossil fuel. I love the technology but truth is truth.
Unfortunately halls book is not cheap and not printed enough that there is a used book market. Books that are less than optimistic about PV are not popular.
https://www.amazon.com/Spains-Photovoltaic-Revolution-Investment-SpringerBriefs/dp/144199436X
Graham Palmer, a researcher from Australia, put together some numbers on EROEI for a set of batteries that was less than a full set of batteries needed to go from summer to winter in the mildest part of Australia, climate-wise.
These are some charts I took from his book, “Energy from Australia”:
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/solar-pv-eroei-graham-palmer.png
and
https://ourfiniteworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/palmer-calculation-of-eroi-of-off-grid-solar-system.png
As a practical matter, the system still had to use a whole lot of other energy, including a generator operated by diesel oil, for times during the winter when there was need for more electricity. Heat, if I remember correctly, was provided by something else–perhaps a wood stove.
He computes that after 30 years (assuming the system lasts that long), the system will have reached an EROEI of 1.3 to 1 (which is terrible). It will start by needing to use a whole lot of energy to build the solar panels and batteries. It is only many years later that if finally gets out of the deficit position.
Graham Palmer is a fine researcher. His conclusions were part of his book “Energy in Australia,” published as part of Prof. Charles Hall’s series of books (with Springer) on energy return on investment and related issues.
These terrible results are never highlighted in the introduction or conclusion to the book. I asked Graham Palmer why, and he said that he was afraid green reviewers would find them offensive.
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There have also been any number of attempts by groups to make renewables to work (by themselves) to provide electricity, on islands near the equator. Euan Mearns used to write a blog called “Energy Matters.” He and an assistant analyzed various attempts, and found that nothing worked, without a whole lot of diesel generator backup. The blog can be found here:
http://euanmearns.com
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There is also the well known 2013 paper by Weissbach, et al. called, Energy intensities, EROIs (energy return on invested), and energy payback times of electricity generating plants. This paper didn’t use batteries. Instead, it used pumped storage, which would provide at most a few hours of saved electricity.
In this comparison, “buffered” Wind and Solar were very much inferior to other sources of electricity in terms of EROEI and other metrics.
My guess is a hydrogen economy with some battery surge. It will be different, but it may work. I have been skeptical of hydrogen, there is a DYI I have referenced here, he seems to make it work.
Dennis L.
thee doesn’t seem to be any getting round the hydrogen problem of 1.5 energy units in to get 1.0 units of energy out.
I’d like to be shown that I’ve missed something
(with Springer)
Jerry Springer?
https://youtu.be/JDu5g-8xHJs
And they demand Democracy!!! hahahahaha…. oh ya … democracy!
Jerry Jerry Jerry (for POTUS?)
This is the true nature of your average MOREON
https://youtu.be/K73Z1hOfyhc
Please check out https://mobile.twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1604865510411313155
That is funny
(MSN)
”Sunak: warns Ukraine not to accept negotiations with Russia until its complete withdrawal”
https://www.msn.com/it-it/notizie/mondo/sunak-avverte-l-ucraina-di-non-accettare-negoziati-con-la-russia-fino-al-suo-completo-ritiro/ar-AA15smua
(The Specator)
”The fact that natural gas storages are 100 percent full in the UK during the fall is meaningless if the storages are minuscule compared to the UK demand…”
My impression is that UK government is at the end of the rope, but they want anyway to get tough with the opponents.
For UK élite is probably ‘make it or break it’.
If they suggest peace, probably people will have a better life (or less terrible), but they probably fear to become insignificant on a worldwide level, if they blow it up, they probably think there is some chance that they might again be a Kingdom.
God save the Queen, no sorry, god save Charles III..
second link, sorry, but already posted above by CTG (thanks)
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-met-office-isnt-to-blame-for-possible-blackouts/
It is zreo covid or zero negotiations until it isn’t.
Is it ?
The UK is a geopolitical poodle of USA and it does whatever it is told. It was 100% behind USA strategy in Afghanistan right up until it failed and the helicopters flew out. The same is true in Syria, Iraq, Libya &c.
UK has no independent geopolitical policy, and it is tied to USA failures. It is 100% certain that Russia will win in UKR and that the eastward NATO expansion will fail, just as all the other USA strategies failed.
The West is about to lose its geopolitical hegemony, even if it takes a while to play out. The end result in UKR will be very bad for Europe and for the UK, and it will only hasten catastrophic energy crises.
But the UK is not an independent actor.
This is what Student’s link says:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-met-office-isnt-to-blame-for-possible-blackouts/
Britain has been cutting corners for years. Britain has been trying to wait until the last minute to buy natural gas, and hope that “spot” prices would be low enough. Japan buys LNG on a contract basis, at a fairly high price, to be sure it has what it needs.
Probable connection with pulmonary embolism and mRNA vaccines.
News:
https://www.eventiavversinews.it/la-fda-riconosce-il-collegamento-a-un-problema-di-coagulazione-studio/
Research:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22014931
I remember that a former Italian politician died in June 2021 right after vaccination, although nobody claimed the connection.
It was Gugliemo Epifani, who was not probably informed by his ex colleagues being by that time out of politics and out of games, so probably expendable.
https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/e-morto-guglielmo-epifani-l-ex-leader-cgil-aveva-71-anni-AEHqGiO?refresh_ce&nof
This is related to recently published US research called,
Surveillance of COVID-19 vaccine safety among elderly persons aged 65 years and older
Its long abstract says:
On ‘eventi avversi’ website is full of episodes of embolism after mRNA vaccination
https://www.eventiavversinews.it/?s=EMBOLIA
And also on ‘esclusa correlazione’ website there are various episodes for each month (although research it is more difficult because it needs to be done by month)
https://esclusacorrelazione.it/giugno-2021.html
They seem to be very happy in Corse that France has been defeated by Argentina…
https://twitter.com/fratotolo2/status/1604570470296305666
https://twitter.com/InfurmazioneCL/status/1604541050957475840
https://twitter.com/FTViaStella/status/1604541784289267712
plus the argentinian goals were all scored by guys of italian descent.
Look at these obese mentally ill child abuser parents https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43280
The Jewish festival of Hanukkah began yesterday and lasts for eight days, ending on 26 December.
So to any Jewish readers out there, Happy Hannukah!
Approximately 18 percent of people living in New York are Jewish with over 2.2 million Jews living in New York State.
Probably because New York has the largest community of Jews outside of Israel, the New York Times has often been accused of having a pro-Israeli bias.
So it seems strange that on the first day of Hanukkah, the NY Times published the crossword below. Can you see it?
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/ny-times-trolls-its-readers-on-start
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4dc49cb6-62f6-4edd-bd39-0d772b0629ed_885x1134.jpeg
From one side a person could say that they are over-sensitive on the issue, but from another side a person could also admit that normally crosswords are less ‘schematic’ than that one.
So I think that they could have definitely paid more attention on that.
Jerusalem Post also speaks about that:
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-725239
All part of a psyop… no idea what the agenda might be … the PR Team is operating on an IQ of 25,000 HP (aggregated) … Fast Eddy is only one entity … even HE cannot match that
macron reminds me of norm on OFW … except that rather than ignore norm we ridicule him hahaha – watch this https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60406
he’s taking the piss cuz he knows but he has been told to support the jabs https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60408
This is blowing up disney’s business – but who cares — the world is ending https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43277
Macron is more and more embarrassing. Time to remove him.
norm is a hybrid — he’s what you’d get if you were to breed macron and biden
Insane? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/60392
M Fast’s was speaking to a few colleagues today — all vaxxed – they all report not feeling right since jab 2 — lack of energy — they are not taking more. One of them is married – his wife reports same
norm – come clean
All the vaxxed people I know say that they will not have any additional jab, that is either if they had two or three jabs.
Maybe they go on saying that we get out from the pandemics only thanks to ‘vaccines’ (and strangely it didn’t happen so in Latin American Countries, African Countries or in Ukraine or Russia, but those places are for a western mind ‘not part of the world to refer to’), but vaxxed people have probably understood that those mRNA treatments are dangerous.
And I forgot middle east Countries, which are again for a western mind ‘not part of the world to refer to’.
Interesting, Student.
I would say that very few vaxxed people here are aware of the injuries and deaths; the only reason for not having further shots is that they’ve all had ‘Omicron’ and it was mild, so the terror of Covid has completely disappeared except among the very few mentally ill who are still wearing masks.
Most are also still unaware the the ‘terrible pandemic’ was faked.
As for the future, we shall see what happens if and when the projected CBDC’s are linked to ‘global vaccination status’ and everyone is tracked throuh 5G, with heavier internet censorship based on new ‘ online safety’ laws.
I think we have 2-3 years before that is attempted.
This should be well used in order to prepare for the next campaign in the domestic war against ordinary people – although it’s very tempting to relax and hope it will all go away.
On the satellite TV that I can watch sometime, there are channels from various part of the world.
Besides normal ‘western’ channels there are also free ones from Latin America, Asia, Russia, Middle East etc.
Among what we consider (wrongly without differentiation) Middle East Countries in general, that is from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Turkey, Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain etc. it is still not clear to me how every single State is following Covid + Vaccination, but one can clearly see that is completely absent as an argument of conversation on them.
So it would be interesting to know what kind of reasoning they have arrived at and if there are differences among them.
I can say that about some of those channels the quality of programs is very good in comparison with what we could think from our tv news.
Some of them broadcast good movies, sit com, news etc. and women in many occasions do not have their hair covered.
I’m not saying that is is all fantastic and they are without problems, but one can surely say that they are not the backward Countries that we like to paint about.
About China, Russia and India is almost clear to me how they have wrapped the issue, but among Middle East Countries I would like to understand better how they stand on this issue.
They represent a big slice of the world.
Fear https://twitter.com/i/status/1604748747640119296
Fusion Breakthrough?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bDXXWQxK38
Fusion has been a big part of the discussion here. Yesterday it was not in the realm of being reasonably possible. The link is very interesting. They have worked around many of the issues around fusion with a different approach…. including direct creation of electricity, and not heating water to do it.
Why are people so fascinated with fusion or any new form of energy? Is it because it brings hope? People need hope to live another day?
I have said before here many times. Imagine if suddenly the oil well refills and Saudi Arabia, Russia, China, USA are filled to the brim with cheap oil, just stick a straw in the ground and out it flows. Will these cheap energy help us now?
Not at all. The debt are too high and need to be repaid. The quality of ore for iron, titanium and other minerals are so low that it is just impossible to mine efficiently and with minimal pollution. The world is also so polluted and the farmlands are so depleted; phosphate is running low, etc.
The financial system is at a point of breaking and it is independent of how low the price of oil goes. Perhaps with the announcement of “cheap oil”, it will just collapse the financial system. I don’t know. It may happen.
Any new form of energy has to come in before the end of previous type of energy. In our case, if fusion came in 1960s, then we will be able to transition to a new type of energy. Right now, after 50 years of substituting debt with energy, the debt will kill us all, not the lack of energy.
So, no, we are way past the point of no return regardless of “straw-in-the-ground-crude-oil” or “ten-years-into-the-future-fusion”
In short. a new Ferarri now costs USD50,000. Would you buy it? Perhaps not if you are already too overloaded with debts.
Yep.
When you smash hope suicide rates blow out… good think we are teaching children that suicide is a viable option.
” The debt are too high and need to be repaid. ”
Debt can also be canceled.
“Sorry for the inconvenience, but we have no money or stuff to repay the debt. You are sh*t out of luck.”
Cancelling the debt will collapse the system instantaneously. We are too complex financially.
exactly
You are being played
At this point fusion is a great way to turn electricity into waste heat.
From what I saw their reaction does not produce electricity directly, it produces heat like other fusion reactors.
Mentally Ill https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43244 https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/43245
I’ll keep milking this till they admit she’s Vax Dead:
Thai Princess, Who Collapsed Last Week, On Heart, Lungs, Kidney Support
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/thai-princess-who-collapsed-last-week-on-heart-lungs-kidney-support-3618814
After the first video one has to see this short video 🙂
Precisely the organs which are most frequently vaxx-injured……
With deaths now running at about 1 per 1000, some high profile elite deaths can be afforded.
No essential top people will have been vaxxed, we can be sure of that.
I get the impression that SStack writers are starting to realize their resistance is futile
Because it is futile
Yep, FE, many of them are looking rather depressed these days. Malone looks ill.
They are shooting pop guns against the heavy artillery of the DoD, spooks and owners of the financial system (ie, not the bankers, but the next level up).
SS is just preaching to the choir. Truth doesn’t win in this life, not very often.
There will be no judgement ‘when the history books are written’.
Still, it keeps one’s spirits up, a bit and circulates some 1st class information.
What they do not realize is the same tactics that are used against leaders of states that run afoul of the Elders … or who have resources the Elders covet….
Are being used against them….
Their machine could quickly rebrand Mother Theresa changing her from a saint to a nasty old wench who was p.iiimmmping children from the Calcutta slums to wealthy men …. and after seeing an expose on her on CNNBBC … the world would believe every word of it.
Saddam – formerly their friend — became the uber villain — and hung.
The SS authors still do not understand how the world works — there is no democracy — there is no recourse against the ultimate power… they are slowly starting to figure out that resistance is futile….
The facts point to an extermination agenda… I think most of them recognize that … and they think the agenda is evil … but they cannot accept that overpopulation nor energy depletion are the reasons for what is happening.
How does one go there — to do so would be to accept the truth — to acknowledge the truth…
The truth!!! Nobody wants that. They want Hollywood endings.
Yet the truth is slowly leaking through — you can feel the despair leaking back the other way.
it’s getting close to the time for my (in)famous annual New Year’s predictions.
first thoughts:
all of the major world “leaders” will remain through the whole year.
the Great Russian Reset will be ongoing, and The War will not be over, though Russia will take 4 more former Ukraine oblasts, matching what they did in 2022.
world population will begin its decline, although the data may not be acknowledged until into 2024.
a few more of the smaller weaker peripheral countries will fall into economic collapse.
definitely NZ in that group.
rumours of imminent WW3 will continue but remain unfulfilled.
the new Tripledemic mRNA vaccine will be released.
OFW will reach 20 million hits.
bAU will continue, at least where I live. 😉
and surely:
que sera sera.
Thank you, David. Although most of us won’t admit it, you’ve been right more often than you’ve been wrong.
Thanks for your forecasts.
By the way, the UN’s 2022 population estimates are interesting. They show new estimates of actual births and deaths, by country for 2020 and 2021, showing overall slowing population growth rates. Their medium level forecasts show a turnaround to rising their estimates in 2022 and 2023. The information can be downloaded at this site:
https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Standard/MostUsed/
The Deagel forecast, for those that haven’t seen it:
https://nobulart.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Deagel-2025-Forecast-by-Country.pdf
I never saw this nice PDF.
I understand that Deagel is somehow related to the military. We are not very far away from 2025 now.
The -77.1% for the population of the UK in 2025, relative to 2017, seems pretty unlikely, unless an atomic bomb wipes out most of the population.
The -68.5% for the US by 2025 seems pretty unlikely, as well.
Russia comes out at -0.5%. India comes in at +4.8%. China’s population is -1.6% by 2025.
The countries at the top of the list for reduced population seem to be those with high use of mRNA covid vaccines.
And another bites the dust …
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300768965/top-ice-hockey-player-dies-at-aucklands-muriwai-beach-remembered-as-charismatic
I’m betting this is a heart attack … let’s see if anything leaks out through the hockey community.
August 2023 The war in Ukraine is over. The Germans are angry about the long cold winter. Xi is solidly in office after China achieves herd immunity by opening after 1% death rate. Americans continue to be blind deaf and dumb to all happening in the world.
Biden has announced his re-election bid. The press gushes about the wonders of Biden. Biden is ahead in the poles.
December 2023, the updated death totals are in the news, with over 100 million excess deaths, and there is a consensus that the world population is estimated to be declining.
Those excess deaths are admitted and defined by governments and trusted scientists as due to a combination of Long Covid, the lingering effects of lockdowns, drug and food shortages, Putin, and of course, GW.
But the Core will still not truly have collapsed, David is correct.
I hope Davis hasn’t lost his zest for life, as hat essential commodity dark chocolate hasn’t been mentioned for ages.
I myself couldn’t get by without Italian artisanal hazelnut chocolate spread.
in other words, August 2023 is bAU.
2023 Q4 boom?
IF YOU HAVE BEEN COVID VACCINATED AND NOW EXPERIENCING EYE/VISION PROBLEMS, ITS NOT YOUR IMAGINATION…
https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/eye-problems-you-may-have-been-blinded-by-your-trust-of-covid-19-vaccines_4929079.html
Well what do you expect if you inject Rat Juice into your body????
The stats for ‘eye disorders’ and ‘blindness’ in the UK recorded on the Yellowcard system are horrifying: at least 5,000 blinded!
That’s assuming a URF of only 10, so it may well be higher.
That’s what the ‘miracle’ vaxx – according to the recent Unicef ad – does for the lucky recipients.
My mate who is damaged told me he went blind for some hours after shot 2 … his sight returned but he has mentioned it has deteriorated since the shots…
No doubt scarring throughout his arteries and veins and likely micro clotting to blame — micro clots even in the eyeballs.
Watch this again https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1604408625698676736 with this in mind:
The Protocols Of Zion
Published 1903
* Place our agents and helpers everywhere
* Take control of the media and use it in propaganda for our plans
* Start fights between different races, classes and religions
* Use bribery, threats and blackmail to get our way
* Use Freemasonic Lodges to attract potential public officials
* Appeal to successful people’s egos
* Appoint puppet leaders who can be controlled by blackmail
* Abolish all rights and freedoms, except the right of force by us
* Sacrifice people (including Jews sometimes) when necessary
* Eliminate religion; replace it with science and materialism
* Control the education system to spread deception and destroy intellect
* Rewrite history to our benefit
* Create entertaining distractions
* Corrupt minds with filth and perversion
* Keep the masses in poverty and perpetual labor
* Use gold to manipulate the markets, cause depressions etc.
* Introduce a progressive tax on wealth
* Replace sound investment with speculation
* Make long-term interest-bearing loans to governments
* Give bad advice to governments and everyone else
“I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire, … The man that controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire. And I control the money supply.” Nathan Rothschild https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1567945974537936897
“Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the nation’s laws. … Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of parliament and of democracy is idle and futile.” — Mackenzie King, Canadian Prime Minister 1935-1948.
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” – Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
“Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” ― Woodrow Wilson
“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.” – Edward Bernays – Propaganda
I worry more about the cabals that do not leave their playbook out for the victims to read, for example the CIA, the Rothschilds.
Human stupidity accounts for most of these outcomes. it’s stuff the human species and other mammals have done to each other for centuries even under optimal conditions, we still exploit each other and bugger things up. you need to look at this link
https://www.victorpest.com/articles/what-humans-can-learn-from-calhouns-rodent-utopia
UPDATE on the Grant Wahl story: One week after Wahl’s sudden death, disturbing new evidence that mRNA shots can cause aneurysms in healthy people
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/update-on-the-grant-wahl-story-one
Send this to his wife haha – I did https://www.celinegounder.com/
1-100 gets a serious side affect https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra/status/1604408625698676736
Not disturbing satisfying.
she is very concentrated on and committed to her career, so she welcomes the extra time she now has.
The material transfer agreement was signed the December 12th 2019 by Ralph Baric, PhD, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, and then signed by Jacqueline Quay, Director of Licensing and Innovation Support at the University of North Carolina on December 16th 2019.
https://expose-news.com/2022/12/18/us-dod-pre-pandemic-covid-research-contract/
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Doesnt matter right norm … unless this makes BBCCNN it doesn’t matter – right?
This is more than a little strange.
U.S. Department of Defense issued a ‘COVID-19 Research’ contract 3 Months before COVID-19 was known to officially exist
https://expose-news.com/2022/12/18/us-dod-pre-pandemic-covid-research-contract/
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Interacting with people whom FE termed as “more.ons” is nothing more than those who are aware administering the Turing test.
1. Word salad.
2. No content, just reuse the words that you have used before and turn round and round in the bid to confuse the person who administer it.
3. No solid evidence like links, papers,
4. Cannot interpreter data and it is totally impossible for them to infer or read between the lines.
5. Quite impossible for them to detect sarcasm.
6. Always follows a certain set of “rules” that make them very predictable in what they will say.
7. When confronted or cornered, they will get angry and leave
8. Cannot engage in a discussion because they are always right and you are always wrong.
9. Perhaps there might have different versions of them from the oldest (least capable) to the best (still not good).
I just had one via email conversation. Check out Gail’s last post where I mentioned that I am going to have a private conversation.
if you don’t know what Turing test is, please Google it.
anna fulfils all criteria and that is why FE pi.mp.ed her then when there were no takers left even at no charge… HE loaded her onto a cart and dumped her at the asylum. That was after the glue factory rejected her
MORE-ONS are worse than useless.
youve had first hand experience of that eddy
Trudeau’s government now teaching kids that (if they’re 15 or over) they can kill themselves, with doctors’ help, and it won’t hurt a bit!
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/trudeaus-government-now-teaching
Look norm:
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After extensive research the elders seem to be following an extinction plan but based on faulty decision making sort of trail and error this makes more sense the elders have a plan b but we will eventually meet the wolf at the door.
Stranger things happen every day. You don’t have to be old enough to vote, and you can kill yourself.
Not old enough to buy a bottle of beer but old enough to kill ones self.
I don’t know why they didn’t encourage this decades ago — people in old age homes — welfare bums — people in prisons — why didn’t they offer them Super Fent?
We could have delayed UEP by 4 or 5 years… more bucket listing for FE
You are such a creative mind… they should try to hire you, or there is no meritocracy.
They did but Fast Eddy was not interested
cheapskates.
Canada and NZ: two small, marginal, and liberal countries where people are supposed to be so nice, and look how they are descending to the Pit under their puppet rulers……
Canada is a leading testing ground for what they intend to bring in everywhere they can.
‘Covid- injured, no hope? Can’t afford food? Long-term unemployed? Depressed? End it now, for free!’
The MOREONS buy into whatever CBCCTV tells them in Canada — so they will embrace this opportunity…
In this respect — I support the govt… if this culls MOREONS = excellent idea
Xabier, FE, I love you guys! You help keep me semi-sane while the world falls apart all around me and neighbors greet me in the street with the Japanese equivalent of “I just had my fifth jab!!”
I smile and reply, “How much longer is this going to go on?”
The under-50s seem to have given up on their shots, stopping at two or maybe three. And so many mothers are declining to get their kids jabbed that the Health Ministry has changed the “jab-by date” period on the vile vials from 12 months to 18 months. But most of the over-60s are on their fourth or fifth dose—casually, routinely, and seemingly blissfully and mindlessly unaware that they are playing Russian roulette with their immune and cardiovascular systems.
Is the shingles vac a mRNA vax? Why are they advertising it so much all of a sudden???
I don’t think it’s mRNA.
lots of ads because the toxic covid jabs do lots of damage to immune systems, and in many individuals their latent shingles virus emerges as a full blown case of shingles because their immune systems can no longer repress it.
$hingle$ you know?
At this stage they are just cashing in with the shingles jabs.
No doubt an mRNA version is in the pipeline.
It also reinforces the doctrine that there is a jab for all ills, that they are inherently Good.
‘shingles’ is an intelligent pathway to healing from fat-soluble chemical toxicity. The nanolipids, among other things, are really, really nasty fat soluble toxins/carcinogens. If the secondary/seasonal detox function that loosens fat soluble toxins from tissues, pre-processes them in the blood, and sends them to the filter system, is not working properly then the intelligent body may have the option if sending at least some of these toxins out the other way, through the skin, as an emergency detox. Painful.
The ‘shingles’ vaxxxes are designed to suppress the emergency ‘shingles’ healing pathway.
Doesn’t sound good!
oh i see — shingles is actually the body healing… makes perfect sense
what about cancer?
Yes glad to hear you’re coming around little eddy.
Cancer. Do you remember what I said about the blood tumors (‘clots’) that are appearing and killing the vaxxxed? Do you remember what I said was the function of tumors?
The closest to a functional description of cancer that allopathy will entertain is the idea that cancers
(malignant tumors) are wounds that cannot heal. Why might wounds not be able to heal?
Yes it all makes sense now … do you think all those festering diseases that Super Snatch carries are related to her body’s attempt to heal itself?
And when norm dips in there he gets a bit of the ‘se.xual healing’?
So disappointed – no players collapsed in the final … I feel down …
Can someone find me a good vax injury story? A celebrity.. a doctor… a nurse.. something
What is vasculitis?
Vasculitis is a relatively rare disease that causes inflammation of blood vessels. It is an autoimmune disease, which means the immune system attacks the body’s own cells, tissues and organs. It is also known as angiitis and arteritis.
The inflammation can cause blood vessels to narrow. This may restrict blood flow to part of the body (ischaemia) or stop it altogether (thrombosis). Sometimes the vessel wall may weaken and balloon out (an aneurysm), which can cause bleeding.
Inflammation can also lead to tissue damage affecting one or many body organs such as the eyes, skin, lungs, gut, kidneys or nervous system.
What are the types of vasculitis?
There are a number of types of vasculitis, including:
Granulomatosis with polyangiitis
Eosinophilic granulomatosis
Cryoglobulinaemia
Goodpasture’s syndrome
Henoch-Schonlein purpura
Microscopic polyangitis
Behcet’s disease
Central nervous system vasculitis
Kawasaki syndrome
Polyarteritis nodosa
giant cell (temporal) arteritis
Takayasu arteritis
Polymyalgia rheumatic
https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/vasculitis
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/more-doctors-speak-out-and-call-for
In the last few days, after Andrew Brigden MP spoke about a cover-up in the British Heart Foundation, more doctors have started to speak out.
Firstly, Professor Serif Sultan, who has 30 years of vascular experience and heads a team of dedicated vascular and endovascular specialists focused on prevention of cardiovascular morbidity and mortality.
Professor Sultan says they first attributed cardiovascular problems to SARS-CoV-2. However, they then noticed that vaccinated patients, who subsequently got Covid, started getting more cardiovascular problems. Furthermore, men who got a booster started getting very severe vasculitic reactions.
He says they don’t know what’s going on but offers possible explanations. Maybe the vaccine is injected directly into veins causing severe vasculitis. Or maybe, due to antibodies already present in the body, the patient has a reaction.
The Professor is calling for this to be fully investigated. “It would be great if somebody could show us the lights as to where to go from here”.
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/more-doctors-speak-out-and-call-for
Japan: Almost There
We have a week or two to reach the record daily Covid deaths.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/japan-almost-there
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But the vax was supposed to stop this…. wot???
Can anyone ever remember norm changing his mind on an issue?
He used to be on friendly terms with you, so I suppose he’s changed his mind about that (or had it changed for him).
re. under figure 9:
” The main attraction of wind and solar today is the subsidies they get, and the mandates that require utilities to move away from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, wind and solar really aren’t terribly helpful as far as I can see, except from the point of view of the benefit of the subsidies they provide.”
This is factually wrong.
Please give a reference.
The fast majority of solar power capacity installations (and a growing number of wind power installations) are happening nowadays without any subsidies, most capacities have to pay for themself in the free market.
Have to pay for grid access,have to pay for land lease,have to pay taxes and put money aside for greenfield restoration after life time.
Zero subsidies.
Written-off atom power plants can’t compete anymore.
The mafia used to centralised power generation and the resulting dominance is milking tsociety nowadays with the most expensive and non-compatible power source: off-shore wind power.Frequently still subsidised as in the USA but this with falling numbers.Most modern European off-shore power plants are non-subsidised, are competing for grid access:paying money to the grid authorities outbidding each other to get the right to connect to the public grid.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/solar-is-now-cheapest-electricity-in-history-confirms-iea/
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2022/03/02/unsubsidized-utility-scale-solar-changing-shape-of-danish-pv-market/
The subsidy of “going first” is an amazingly large subsidy. So is the concept of competitive pricing, with different prices for different times of day. The electrical system really needs “utility” pricing, with enough price for all needed generation to satisfy customer needed.
For industrial uses, electricity typically must be available 24/7 and close to 365 days a year. For non-industrial business use, it must be available during the course businesses are open. For hospitals, electricity is needed 24/7/365. Quite a few workers who work shifts need electricity close to 24 hours a day. If is helpful if traffic lights and machines that dispense money for banks are available 24/7/365. It is nice if elevators work 24/7/365, as well as drawbridges.
There are many kinds of subsidies. When the magazines say that solar power is “unsubsidized,” they only mean that certain types of subsidies are gone. The subsidy of “going first” and the subsidy of charging rates by time of day has not gone away. Mandates that a certain percentage of electricity must be from “renewables” act like subsidies, also.
There is a great deal of confusion about the difference between “dispatchable electricity” and “electricity that is available from time to time”. Electricity from wind and solar only substitute for fuel in a system (unless the system has lots of batteries, and is primarily trying to run air conditioners in the summer). If is not possible to store up electricity from summer to winter, which is when the big need for electricity arises. This is a big deal.
It is clear that not a whole lot of “demand” can be moved differently, with different pricing. Solar energy is available for the most part in the summer. We badly need heat for winter. How many people would be willing to substitute heat in summer for heat in winter? Not many, I expect. Freezing in the dark during winter is already a concern in Europe this winter. China has been having rolling blackouts since late 2020.
Belief that we can transition to solar and wind —- after reading the following — is a symptom of mental illness.
Renewable energy ‘simply won’t work’: Top Google engineers
Two highly qualified Google engineers who have spent years studying and trying to improve renewable energy technology have stated quite bluntly that whatever the future holds, it is not a renewables-powered civilisation: such a thing is impossible.
Both men are Stanford PhDs, Ross Koningstein having trained in aerospace engineering and David Fork in applied physics. These aren’t guys who fiddle about with websites or data analytics or “technology” of that sort: they are real engineers who understand difficult maths and physics, and top-bracket even among that distinguished company.
Even if one were to electrify all of transport, industry, heating and so on, so much renewable generation and balancing/storage equipment would be needed to power it that astronomical new requirements for steel, concrete, copper, glass, carbon fibre, neodymium, shipping and haulage etc etc would appear.
All these things are made using mammoth amounts of energy: far from achieving massive energy savings, which most plans for a renewables future rely on implicitly, we would wind up needing far more energy, which would mean even more vast renewables farms – and even more materials and energy to make and maintain them and so on. The scale of the building would be like nothing ever attempted by the human race.
In reality, well before any such stage was reached, energy would become horrifyingly expensive – which means that everything would become horrifyingly expensive (even the present well-under-one-per-cent renewables level in the UK has pushed up utility bills very considerably).
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/11/21/renewable_energy_simply_wont_work_google_renewables_engineers/
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/23/google-gives-up-on-green-tech-investment-initiative-rec/
FE, you are eight years behind the times.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/engineers-you-can-disrupt-climate-change
Seven years ago, we published an article in IEEE Spectrum titled “What It Would Really Take to Reverse Climate Change.” We described what we had learned as Google engineers who worked on a well-intentioned but ultimately failed effort to cut the cost of renewable energy. We argued that incremental improvements to existing energy technologies weren’t enough to reverse climate change, and we advocated for a portfolio of conventional, cutting-edge, and might-seem-crazy R&D to find truly disruptive solutions. We wrote: “While humanity is currently on a trajectory to severe climate change, this disaster can be averted if researchers aim for goals that seem nearly impossible. We’re hopeful, because sometimes engineers and scientists do achieve the impossible.”
Today, still at Google, we remain hopeful. And we’re happy to say that we got a few things wrong. In particular, renewable energy systems have come down in price faster than we expected, and adoption has surged beyond the predictions we cited in 2014.
I remain hopeful that the Toronto Maple Leaf scouts will spot me playing beer league hockey here in NZ — and call me up for the playoffs in April….
Prof Simon Michaux (Finnish Geological Survey) has suggested the same thing more recently. and with around 10,000x more number-crunching I think. Including several interviews with Nate Hagens, one of which is available on the Resilience website.
I think he and Hagens concluded that renewables might provide 5-10 TW. The world uses energy at the rate of 19 TW.
I could suggest how to live on that much. Switzerland, for a start, uses a third as much as the USA despite being equally rich (GDP per capita). They proposed long ago a ‘2 kW society’ by 2050.
But Dick Cheney said that ‘the American way of life is not negotiable’. So that’s that. One is facing the Deep State, even if some small European countries are more amenable to facing reality.
Let’s continue to enjoy this https://palexander.substack.com/p/adam-exton-who-was-one-in-leadership
SoCalGal
4 hr ago
Sadly, I think there will be many more deaths.
My oldest son and his wife got three shots. My son now has heart issues and high blood pressure. Several days ago he informed me that he and his wife made out their wills and instructions if they become incapacitated or die. They asked me to be in charge if anything happens to them. This is so hard
🤡🌎
9 hr ago
Why is everything playing out exactly as the Spars 2025-2028 scenario foretold? If you have read Spars 2025-2028 you will see this. In spars we had basically the same scenario as Covid. Right now we are at the point in the project where they already rolled out their shots, and the next step is the public finding out that they were completely lied to. Which is exactly what is happening now, see page 59. We are now at the stage where the first major ailments are appearing. Perfectly according to plan, just like they wrote. You can’t read this John’s Hopkins/Satan cosponsored paper and realistically think “oh what a coincidence”.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2017/spars-pandemic-scenario.pdf
This was published in 2017. The Center for Health Security is part of the Bloomberg School of Public Health. Of course, Johns Hopkins was the place that was all set up to report, minute by minute, how many Covid deaths had been reported.
What is the chance that Bloomberg publications will feature a story about this???
Utopia… London Virus Olympics ceremony etc….
They told us what they intended to do … taunting the MORE-ONS
Right after news broke that David Jenkins died suddenly while swimming, anti-vaccination activists immediately claimed that the 31 year-old coach for Olympic diver Tom Daley was a victim of COVID-19 vaccine SADS!
https://www.techarp.com/facts/health-canada-adam-exton-die/
SADS it is… betcha heart attack 🙂
Norman, I agree it is more profitable to keep slaves/employees in warm southern region versus cold northern ones.
If cold northern regions have coal and other fossil fuels, they already have fossil fuel energy slaves. They don’t need human slaves.
Norman and I were talking about the world after FF.
fossil fuels are our ‘slaves’ only so long as there are means to employ them—tractors etc.
and means to extract them—mines and refineries,
remove those, and fossil fuels stay in the ground.
which will happen as fuels get to expensive to extract–(as youve said yourself Gail)
then we look to human/animal muscle
In warmer climates large slaves gangs are certainly viable,and easy to house, requiring less clothing, etc: in colder climates the scale is different – ie one or two slaves per farmstead – but the principal is the same.
Vikings traded in slaves, but kept some for themselves.
All the women taken to Iceland were originally Irish slaves, I believe. They would one assumes have been made free upon marriage.
slaves in the carribbean were net energy producers—sugar products–because the sun put in most of the energy in the first place.
thus, with sugar cane it was possible to drive an economic system based on that output—everybody wanted sugar and rum, it drove the slave trade.
female slaves taken to iceland i think would have been mainlytaken as breeding stock.