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Many people believe that installing more wind turbines and solar panels and manufacturing more electric vehicles can solve our energy problem, but I don’t agree with them. These devices, plus the batteries, charging stations, transmission lines and many other structures necessary to make them work represent a high level of complexity.
A relatively low level of complexity, such as the complexity embodied in a new hydroelectric dam, can sometimes be used to solve energy problems, but we cannot expect ever-higher levels of complexity to always be achievable.
According to the anthropologist Joseph Tainter, in his well-known book, The Collapse of Complex Societies, there are diminishing returns to added complexity. In other words, the most beneficial innovations tend to be found first. Later innovations tend to be less helpful. Eventually the energy cost of added complexity becomes too high, relative to the benefit provided.
In this post, I will discuss complexity further. I will also present evidence that the world economy may already have hit complexity limits. Furthermore, the popular measure, “Energy Return on Energy Investment” (EROEI) pertains to direct use of energy, rather than energy embodied in added complexity. As a result, EROEI indications tend to suggest that innovations such as wind turbines, solar panels and EVs are more helpful than they really are. Other measures similar to EROEI make a similar mistake.
[1] In this video with Nate Hagens, Joseph Tainter explains how energy and complexity tend to grow simultaneously, in what Tainter calls the Energy-Complexity Spiral.
According to Tainter, energy and complexity build on each other. At first, growing complexity can be helpful to a growing economy by encouraging the uptake of available energy products. Unfortunately, this growing complexity reaches diminishing returns because the easiest, most beneficial solutions are found first. When the benefit of added complexity becomes too small relative to the additional energy required, the overall economy tends to collapse–something he says is equivalent to “rapidly losing complexity.”
Growing complexity can make goods and services less expensive in several ways:
- Economies of scale arise due to larger businesses.
- Globalization allows use of alternative raw materials, cheaper labor and energy products.
- Higher education and more specialization allow more innovation.
- Improved technology allows goods to be less expensive to manufacture.
- Improved technology may allow fuel savings for vehicles, allowing ongoing fuel savings.
Strangely enough, in practice, growing complexity tends to lead to more fuel use, rather than less. This is known as Jevons’ Paradox. If products are less expensive, more people can afford to buy and operate them, so that total energy consumption tends to be greater.
[2] In the above linked video, one way Professor Tainter describes complexity is that it is something that adds structure and organization to a system.
The reason I consider electricity from wind turbines and solar panels to be much more complex than, say, electricity from hydroelectric plants, or from fossil fuel plants, is because the output from the devices is further from what is needed to fill the demands of the electricity system we currently have operating. Wind and solar generation need complexity to fix their intermittency problems.
With hydroelectric generation, water is easily captured behind a dam. Often, some of the water can be stored for later use when demand is high. The water captured behind the dam can be run through a turbine, so that the electrical output matches the pattern of alternating current used in the local area. The electricity from a hydroelectric dam can be quickly added to other available electricity generation to match the pattern of electricity consumption users would prefer.
On the other hand, the output of wind turbines and solar panels requires a great deal more assistance (“complexity”) to match the electricity consumption pattern of consumers. Electricity from wind turbines tends to be very disorganized. It comes and goes according to its own schedule. Electricity from solar panels is organized, but the organization is not well aligned with the pattern of consumers prefer.
A major issue is that electricity for heating is required in winter, but solar electricity is disproportionately available in the summer; wind availability is irregular. Batteries can be added, but these mostly mitigate wrong “time-of-day” problems. Wrong “time-of-year” problems need to be mitigated with a lightly used parallel system. The most popular backup system seems to be natural gas, but backup systems with oil or coal can also be used.
This double system has a higher cost than either system would have if operated alone, on a full-time basis. For example, a natural gas system with pipelines and storage needs to be put in place, even if electricity from natural gas is only used for part of the year. The combined system needs experts in all areas, including electricity transmission, natural gas generation, repair of wind turbines and solar panels, and battery manufacture and maintenance. All of this requires educational systems and international trade, sometimes with unfriendly countries.
I also consider electric vehicles to be complex. One major problem is that the economy will require a double system, (for internal combustion engines and electric vehicles) for many, many years. Electric vehicles require batteries made using elements from around the world. They also need a whole system of charging stations to fill their need for frequent recharging.
[3] Professor Tainter makes the point that complexity has an energy cost, but this cost is virtually impossible to measure.
Energy needs are hidden in many areas. For example, to have a complex system, we need a financial system. The cost of this system cannot be added back in. We need modern roads and a system of laws. The cost of a government providing these services cannot be easily discerned. An increasingly complex system needs education to support it, but this cost is also hard to measure. Also, as we note elsewhere, having double systems adds other costs that are hard to measure or predict.
[3] The energy-complexity spiral cannot continue forever in an economy.
The energy-complexity spiral can reach limits in at least three ways:
[a] Extraction of minerals of all kinds is placed in the best locations first. Oil wells are first placed in areas where oil is easy to extract and close to population areas. Coal mines are first placed in locations where coal is easy to extract and transportation costs to users will be low. Mines for lithium, nickel, copper, and other minerals are put in the best-yielding locations first.
Eventually, the cost of energy production rises, rather than falls, due to diminishing returns. Oil, coal, and energy products become more expensive. Wind turbines, solar panels, and batteries for electric vehicles also tend to become more expensive because the cost of the minerals to manufacture them rises. All kinds of energy goods, including “renewables,” tend to become less affordable. In fact, there are many reports that the cost of producing wind turbines and solar panels rose in 2022, making the manufacture of these devices unprofitable. Either higher prices of finished devices or lower profitability for those producing the devices could stop the rise in usage.
[b] Human population tends to keep rising if food and other supplies are adequate, but the supply of arable land stays close to constant. This combination puts pressure on society to produce a continuous stream of innovations that will allow greater food supply per acre. These innovations eventually reach diminishing returns, making it more difficult for food production to keep up with population growth. Sometimes adverse fluctuations in weather patterns make it clear that food supplies have been too close to the minimum level for many years. The growth spiral is pushed down by spiking food prices and the poor health of workers who can only afford an inadequate diet.
[c] Growth in complexity reaches limits. The earliest innovations tend to be most productive. For example, electricity can be invented only once, as can the light bulb. Globalization can only go so far before a maximum level is reached. I think of debt as part of complexity. At some point, debt cannot be repaid with interest. Higher education (needed for specialization) reaches limits when workers cannot find jobs with sufficiently high wages to repay educational loans, besides covering living costs.
[4] One point Professor Tainter makes is that if the available energy supply is reduced, the system will need to simplify.
Typically, an economy grows for well over one hundred years, reaches energy-complexity limits, and then collapses over a period of years. This collapse can occur in different ways. A layer of government can collapse. I think of the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union in 1991 as a form of collapse to a lower level of simplicity. Or one country conquers another country (with energy-complexity problems), taking over the government and resources of the other country. Or a financial collapse occurs.
Tainter says that simplification usually doesn’t happen voluntarily. One example he gives of voluntary simplification involves the Byzantine Empire in the 7th century. With less funding available for the military, it abandoned some of its distant posts, and it used a less costly approach to operating its remaining posts.
[5] In my opinion, it is easy for EROEI calculations (and similar calculations) to overstate the benefit of complex types of energy supply.
A major point that Professor Tainter makes in the talk linked above is that complexity has an energy cost, but the energy cost of this complexity is virtually impossible to measure. He also makes the point that growing complexity is seductive; the overall cost of complexity tends to grow over time. Models tend to miss necessary parts of the overall system needed to support a highly complex new source of energy supply.
Because the energy required for complexity is hard to measure, EROEI calculations with respect to complex systems will tend to make complex forms of electricity generation, such as wind and solar, look like they use less energy (have a higher EROEI) than they actually do. The problem is that EROEI calculations consider only direct “energy investment” costs. For example, the calculations are not designed to collect information regarding the higher energy cost of a dual system, with parts of the system under-utilized for portions of the year. Annual costs will not necessarily be reduced proportionately.
In the linked video, Professor Tainter talks about the EROEI of oil over the years. I don’t have a problem with this type of comparison, especially if it stops before the recent change to greater use of fracking, since the level of complexity is similar. In fact, such a comparison omitting fracking seems to be the one that Tainter makes. Comparison among different energy types, with different complexity levels, is what is easily distorted.
[6] The current world economy already seems to be trending in the direction of simplification, suggesting that the tendency toward greater complexity is already past its maximum level, given the lack of availability of inexpensive energy products.
I wonder if we are already starting to see simplification in trade, especially international trade, because shipping (generally using oil products) is becoming high-priced. This might be considered a type of simplification, in response to a lack of sufficient inexpensive energy supply.
Based on Figure 2, trade as a percentage of GDP hit a peak in 2008. There has been a generally downward trend in trade since then, giving an indication that the world economy has tended to shrink back, at least in some ways, as it has hit high-price limits.
Another example of a trend toward lower complexity is the drop in US undergraduate college and university enrollment since 2010. Other data shows that undergraduate enrollment nearly tripled between 1950 and 2010, so the shift to a downtrend after 2010 presents a major turning point.
The reason why the shift in enrollment is a problem is because colleges and universities have a huge amount of fixed expenses. These include buildings and grounds that must be maintained. Often debt needs to be repaid, as well. Educational systems also have tenured faculty members that they are obligated to keep on their staff, under most circumstances. They may have pension obligations that are not fully funded, adding another cost pressure.
According to the college faculty members whom I have talked to, in recent years there has been pressure to improve the retention rate of students who have been admitted. In other words, they feel that they are being encouraged to keep current students from dropping out, even if it means lowering their standards a little. At the same time, faculty wages are not keeping pace with inflation.
Other information suggests that colleges and universities have recently put a great deal of emphasis on achieving a more diverse student body. Students who might not have been admitted in the past because of low high school grades are increasingly being admitted in order to keep the enrollment from dropping further.
From the students’ point of view, the problem is that jobs that pay a sufficiently high wage to justify the high cost of a college education are increasingly unavailable. This seems to be the reason for both the US student debt crisis and the drop in undergraduate enrollment.
Of course, if colleges are at least somewhat lowering their admission standards and perhaps lowering standards for graduation, as well, there is a need to “sell” these increasingly diverse graduates with somewhat lower undergraduate achievement records to governments and businesses who might hire them. It seems to me that this is a further sign of the loss of complexity.
[7] In 2022, the total energy costs for most OECD countries started spiking to high levels, relative to GDP. When we analyze the situation, electricity prices are spiking, as are the prices of coal and natural gas–the two types of fuel used most frequently to produce electricity.
The OECD is an intergovernmental organization of mostly rich countries that was formed to stimulate economic progress and foster world growth. It includes the US, most European countries, Japan, Australia, and Canada, among other countries. Figure 4, with the caption “Periods of high energy expenditures are often associated with recession” is has been prepared by two economists working for OECD. The gray bars indicate recession.
Figure 4 shows that in 2021, prices for practically every cost segment associated with energy consumption tended to spike. Electricity, coal, and natural gas prices were all very high relative to prior years. The only segment of energy costs that was not very out of line relative to costs in prior years was oil. Coal and natural gas are both used to make electricity, so high electricity costs should not be surprising.
In Figure 4, the caption by the economists from OECD is pointing out what should be obvious to economists everywhere: High energy prices often push an economy into recession. Citizens are forced to cut back on non-essentials, reducing demand and pushing their economies into recession.
[8] The world seems to be up against extraction limits for coal. This, together with the high cost of shipping coal over long distances, is leading to very high prices for coal.
World coal production has been close to flat since 2011. Growth in electricity generation from coal has been almost as flat as world coal production. Indirectly, this lack of growth in coal production is forcing utilities around the world to move to other types of electricity generation.
[9] Natural gas is now also in short supply when growing demand of many types is considered.
While natural gas production has been growing, in recent years it hasn’t been growing quickly enough to keep up with the world’s rising demand for natural gas imports. World natural gas production in 2021 was only 1.7% higher than production in 2019.
Growth in the demand for natural gas imports comes from several directions, simultaneously:
- With coal supply flat and imports not sufficiently available, countries are seeking to substitute natural gas generation for coal generation of electricity. China is the world’s largest importer of natural gas partly for this reason.
- Countries with electricity from wind or solar find that electricity from natural gas can ramp up quickly and fill in when wind and solar aren’t available.
- There are several countries, including Indonesia, India and Pakistan, whose natural gas production is declining.
- Europe chose to end its pipeline imports of natural gas from Russia and now needs more LNG instead.
[10] Prices for natural gas are extremely variable, depending on whether the natural gas is locally produced, and depending on how it is shipped and the type of contract it is under. Generally, locally produced natural gas is the least expensive. Coal has somewhat similar issues, with locally produced coal being the least expensive.
This is a chart from a recent Japanese publication (IEEJ).
The low Henry Hub price at the bottom is the US price, available only locally. If supplies are high within the US, its price tends to be low. The next higher price is Japan’s price for imported liquefied natural gas (LNG), arranged under long-term contracts, over a period of years. The top price is the price that Europe is paying for LNG based on “spot market” prices. Spot market LNG is the only type of LNG available to those who did not plan ahead.
In recent years, Europe has been taking its chances on getting low spot market prices, but this approach can backfire badly when there is not enough to go around. Note that the high price of European imported LNG was already evident in January 2013, before the Ukraine invasion began.
A major issue is that shipping natural gas is extremely expensive, tending to at least double or triple the price to the user. Producers need to be guaranteed a high price for LNG over the long term to make all of the infrastructure needed to produce and ship natural gas as LNG profitable. The extremely variable prices for LNG have been a problem for natural gas producers.
The very high recent prices for LNG in Europe have made the price of natural gas too high for industrial users who need natural gas for processes other than making electricity, such as making nitrogen fertilizer. These high prices cause distress from the lack of inexpensive natural gas to spill over into the farming sector.
Most people are “energy blind,” especially when it comes to coal and natural gas. They assume that there is plenty of both fuels to be cheaply extracted, essentially forever. Unfortunately, for both coal and natural gas, the cost of shipping tends to be very high. This is something that modelers miss. It is the high delivered cost of natural gas and coal that makes it impossible for companies to actually extract the amounts of coal and natural gas that seem to be available based on reserve estimates.
[10] When we analyze electricity consumption in recent years, we discover that OECD and non-OECD countries have had amazingly different patterns of electricity consumption growth since 2001.
OECD electricity consumption has been close to flat, especially since 2008. Even before 2008, its electricity consumption was not growing rapidly.
The proposal now is to increase the use of electricity in OECD countries. Electricity will be used to a greater extent for fueling vehicles and heating homes. It will also to be used more for local manufacturing, especially for batteries and semiconductor chips. I wonder how OECD countries will be able to ramp up electricity production sufficiently to cover both current uses of electricity and planned new uses, if past electricity production has been essentially flat.
Figure 7 shows that coal’s share of electricity production has been falling for OECD countries, especially since 2008. “Other” has been rising, but only enough to keep overall production flat. Other is comprised of renewables, including wind and solar, plus electricity from oil and from burning of trash. The latter categories are small.
The pattern of recent energy production for non-OECD countries is very different:
Figure 8 shows that non-OECD countries have been rapidly ramping up electricity production from coal. Other major sources of fuel are natural gas and electricity produced by hydroelectric dams. All these energy sources are relatively non-complex. Electricity from locally produced coal, locally produced natural gas, and hydroelectric generation all tend to be quite inexpensive. With these inexpensive sources of electricity, non-OECD countries have been able to dominate the world’s heavy industry and much of its manufacturing.
In fact, if we look at the local production of fuels generally used to produce electricity (that is, all fuels except oil), we can see a pattern emerge.
With respect to extraction of fuels often associated with electricity, production has been closed to flat, even with “renewables” (wind, solar, geothermal, and wood chips) included. Coal production is down. The decline in coal production is likely a big part of the lack of growth in OECD’s electricity supply. Electricity from locally produced coal has historically been very inexpensive, bringing the average price of electricity down.
A very different pattern emerges when the production of fuels used to generate electricity for non-OECD countries is viewed. Note that the same scale has been used on both Figures 9 and 10. Thus, in 2001, the production of these fuels was about equal for OECD and non-OECD countries. Production of these fuels has about doubled since 2001 for non-OECD countries, while OECD production has remained close to flat.
Figure 10. Energy production of fuels often used for electricity production for non-OECD countries, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.
One item of interest on Figure 10 is coal production for non-OECD countries, shown in blue at the bottom. It has been barely increasing since 2011. This is part of what is now tightening world coal supplies. I am doubtful that spiking coal prices will add very much to long-term coal production because truly local supplies are becoming depleted, even in non-OECD countries. The spiking prices are much more likely to lead to recession, debt defaults, lower commodity prices, and lower coal supply.
[11] I am afraid that the world economy has hit complexity limits as well as energy production limits.
The world economy seems likely to collapse over a period of years. In the near term, the result may look like a bad recession, or it may look like war, or possibly both. So far, the economies using fuels that are not very complex for electricity (locally produced coal and natural gas, plus hydroelectric generation) seem to be doing better than others. But the overall world economy is stressed by inadequate cheap-to-produce local energy supplies.
In physics terms, the world economy, as well as all of the individual economies within it, are dissipative structures. As such, growth followed by collapse is a usual pattern. At the same time, new versions of dissipative structures can be expected to form, some of which may be better adapted to changing conditions. Thus, approaches for economic growth that seem impossible today may be possible over a longer timeframe.
For example, if climate change opens up access to more coal supplies in very cold areas, the Maximum Power Principle would suggest that some economy will eventually access such deposits. Thus, while we seem to be reaching an end now, over the long-term, self-organizing systems can be expected to find ways to utilize (“dissipate”) any energy supply that can be inexpensively accessed, considering both complexity and direct fuel use.
where this gets really worrying is if you fixate an entire population into one response vector and this then creates an intense evolutionary pressure toward an “escape” variant. every person is the same lab running the same experiment and when someone cracks it, it affects everyone. you can, quite literally, create the opposite of herd immunity. you can create herd antigenic-fixation.
the idea that we can somehow “get ahead of this” with boosters is not just improbable, it’s actually probably impossible and almost certainly deeply counter-productive.
there is simply no way to be fast enough or predictive. this idea that “warp speed” was some miracle of new science and modality and that mRNA is incredibly fast and responsive as a drug modality is utter fiction. the only way the purported vaccines were ready so quickly is because they already had them. there is simply no other explanation and we have entire fields of smoking musketry on this one.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-there-isnt-going-to-be-a-covid
“impossible and almost certainly deeply counter-productive.”
I tend to think like this. What about counter-consumptive? As in; reduce energy consumption? A way to kill the platoon without destroying the army?
The elders didn’t get old for nothing, did they? Balloons, EU border talks, Liverpool anti migrant protests allowed in media. Twitter birdy out of its cage.
Look at what they do, not what they say. But maybe that goes for me too.
This substack article explains what Anthony Fauci said in his new academic that explains why it is clear that the new covid vaccines had no chance of working in the first place.
There were four post within a short time, linking to the same article. I removed two of them. It gets to be too much.
Those of you that are still alive will own nothing and be happy. They are saving the species (after driving up population via the green revolution) by killing a large percentage of it, subjugating the rest, and securing their own positions of power (and control). It would seem that’s the plan anyway, and you know about mice and men….
You cull you collapse – those alive starve
It’s very simple – ask Korowicz
Some pay the price of turning the planet into cash
Decades ago I read a book by an anthropologist about his field study of the The Yanomami people in the Amazon jungle of Brazil.
He as accepted into their tribal society and actually married into it, later bringing her and their child to America. It did not go well, she expressed loneliness even when walking the shopping malls crowded with people. Seems she was perp!exed by how so many people together did not interact or know one another.
Eventually, she returned back to Brazil to her tribe….
Well, seems things are going terrible for these native people nowadays…
The Yanomami people lived in harmony with nature. Invaders turned their lives into a fight for survival.
By Tara John and Rodrigo Pedroso, CNN
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/02/11/americas/brazil-yanomami-mining-crackdown-intl-latam/index.html
Updated 7:21 AM EST, Sat February 11, 2023
“I’m in mourning…for my people, who I’ve lost,” he said, referring to recent images that emerged from the territory showing emaciated Yanomami adults and children, some with swollen bellies from hunger.
Disease and malnutrition have torn through Yanomami villages over the last four years — a crisis that experts lay at the feet of the scores of illegal miners who have set up camp in their sprawling territory, spurred by the high price of gold.
While it is hard to get an accurate number of mines in the sprawling territory, which equals the size of Portugal, a report by Brazilian NGO Instituto Socioambiental (ISA), based on satellite imaging, found that mines on Yanomami land had risen from four in 2015 to 1,556 by the end of 2021.
And From AP Associate Press
Health crisis leads scores of Yanomami to roam the streets
By FABIANO MAISONNAVE and EDMAR BARROS
https://apnews.com/article/jair-bolsonaro-technology-brazil-government-climate-and-environment-dbf6ed8bdfada091ba1552b8ec6a8d7b
But they are Yanomami, an Indigenous people from the Amazon rainforest who traditionally live in relative isolation. Years of neglect during the previous government of far-right President Jair Bolsonaro led to a health crisis that got worse while illegal gold miners swarmed into their territory. Dozens of Yanomami ended up roaming in the region’s largest city.
….A report published this week by the Ministry of Health paints a grim picture of Casai, which was built to host Yanomami under treatment and their relatives. Its capacity is 200 people, but it harbors many as 700, representing 2% of the Yanomami population. The figure doesn’t include those hospitalized, including several children with severe malnutrition.
“The bathrooms are unhealthy, and the dining areas are insufficient and unpleasant. In addition, the food was insufficient until a few months ago,” the report says. “The Yanomami lack space to prepare their food and other activities, so at night, there are several drunken people and reports of violence and car hit-and-runs.”
According to the report, 150 Yanomami are eligible to return to their villages, but the wait for a place on a return flight can be very long — 10 years in one extreme case.
So, Doubt any will return back to their Homeland.
Really tragic events in the pursuit of false wealth.
Geert Venden Bossche in Switzerland, starts off speaking German, then switches to English for the main talk. It’s titled “Mutation pressure due to Vaccination”.
https://rumble.com/v2456kc-mutation-pressure-due-to-vaccination-geert-in-rapperswil-switzerland.html
There are those who say GVB is crying wolf….
But when has there ever been a virus that has constantly been in play even during the summer… mutating endlessly….
The wolves are surrounding us — they just haven’t bitten – yet
Keep feeding them the Rat Juice… and ….Paxlovid…
Eventually something even nastier than VAIDS and injuries are gonna happen
It’s kinda like shagging the likes of SSS without protection … if you get drunked up all the time and indulge in escapades with filthy hags like that pay for play Out Back Dumpsters… you may walk away unscathed…
But then you that one ultra filthy one — the diseased skanky we know as Super Snatch … and you pick up one of those new VD strains that can’t be cured.
Coronaviruses have high mutation rates. Happens every year with the cold. Find a new shtick. The GVB crap is the dumbest of your obsessions. The other ones are at least entertaining. Meanwhile:
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
You could listen to this video over and over and let GVB’s wisdom sink in. That might help your comprehension or at least to approach the message more sympathetically. He may be wrong, but even if he is, how would you know? Please give us some “tells”. Is it the way he eyebrows go up and down that give the game away?
Do you have the intellectual ability, the scientific training, and the attention span to understand what he’s talking about? If so, good for you. Perhaps you could explain it to the laity how you know he’s mistaken or why he’s crap?
I admit, I find GVB a bit too dense, but that’s because I’m not familiar enough with virology or immunology to take in everything he says at one sitting. After five minutes, I start to hear “blah blah blah…” But unlike the case with politicians, I think it’s not him, it’s me.
No, it’s him. People that actually know what they are talking about, in any field, are able to explain things simply enough (using metaphors etc) in ways that are not 100% accurate, but get the message across. Him? No way. Gibberish.
Go listen to Kary Mullis, Nobel prize winner and inventor of PCR. You can actually understand what he’s saying on any subject, because he’s not an idiot.
Two things:
1. He is focusing on changing the minds of the scientists who are he believes are mistakenly supporting the injections. Hence the explanations that go over the heads of most people.
2. He has no idea when a deadly mutation will arise – but he makes these grim predictions because he is desperate to stop the injections asap. There needs to be a sense of urgency because every additional injection raises the odds of total devastation.
Where he goes completely wrong is that in spite of the obvious – he still thinks this is a mistake.
It ain’t no mistake
The thing is …
You won’t have much time to live to eat your words when GVB’s predictions come tru.
For me, the jury is still out on GVB. How many of the coronavirus particles are infection competent? Do RNA viruses replicate with high fidelity? I still find it bizarre that someone coughing on another person in Wuhan is a threat to those in the shire of the UK. How did SARS-CoV-1 end? How did MERS end? There are a lot of unproven assumptions in this zombie apocalypse type story where patient zero can infect the entire globe.
JJ Couey has some fascinating papers on the concept of infectious clones. Well worth checking out in my opinion.
Name another respiratory virus that never stops … summer winter spring autumn.. it just keeps on keeping on.
Was that a statement or a question? Can you elaborate?
“What funeral directors know that you don’t”
In 78 years, they never had a 15 year old who died from a heart attack. In December 2022, they had 1 a week for three weeks straight. Nobody is talking about it publicly
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-funeral-directors-know-that?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
There is such a long reporting lag in the US that data is not shown after December 11, 2022. Even at that, it is clear that the mortality is still up quite significantly. The ages 15-64 is still up.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline-by-age?country=~USA
At the earliest dates, the mortality rate was lower for 0-14, especially in early 2020, when people stopped giving their children the normal vaccines. This is a strong suggestion that the vaccines were harmful. SIDS was particularly low then, I remember reading. There were also fewer vehicle accidents.
Some updates from Sweden and Denmark about young people:
[…] Increasingly clear data and researches are confirming initial fears. The latest was carried out in SWEDEN and reported by Irene Cosul Cuffaro in the pages of ‘La Verità’: the study looked at the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis among young people, based on analyses done by the government agency Socialstyrelsen. Numbers talks about inflammation among teens would have increased in the second half of 2021, particularly in the 10-19 age group, remaining higher throughout the course of 2022 than in earlier periods. Thus, in the period following the mass vaccination, the prevalence of these diseases increased. […] the peak of events would occur in the second half of 2021, with 216 under-20 hospitalizations, then falling to 187 in the first half of 2022 and 157 thereafter. The condition of the patients or whether they had been vaccinated or not, as specified by the authors, is not known. But it is striking that in the acute phase of the pandemic, in 2020 and early 2021, cardiac inflammation was even lower than in pre-Covid years. Then, after the vaccination campaigns began, the picture suddenly changed on the opposite. […]
Another study on the subject was produced these days in DENMARK, with the subject being the presence of the Spike protein longer than expected in the blood of vaccinated people. The research was published in the Journal of Pathology, Microbiology and Immunology and was conducted on 180 patients with chronic hepatitis C.”
https://www.ilparagone.it/attualita/effetti-avversi-vaccino-giovani-miocardite-pericardite/
https://infogram.com/miocarditi-1hxr4zxr000mq6y
https://www.laverita.info/picco-miocarditi-giovani-svezia-2659403754.html
Interesting!
“Toxic by Design” roundtable talk with Mike Yeadon
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/friday-roundtable/toxic-by-design-with-michael-yeadon-phd-1676056671675/
mike replied to FE on that coal depletion issue… he insists there is plenty left but for some reason they decided to leave it in the ground
Fast asked for evidence of this gently reprimanding mike with — otherwise it’s wishful thinking…
I suspect he will not respond
We both agree — this will end very badly for humans. But where we disagree is that I Schad on that … he is despairing… he has kids… likely grandkids.
I don’t and even if I did I would have realized that was a mistake (prodded by FE) and I’d be ok with them being exterminated… I prefer the animals
Mike might be right! Same in Germany at least for lignite and I am usure about black coal but I think it was a political decision to stop it. I dont know if production could be restarted. With lignite I guess yes!
Reasons were plentiful: Bad jobs, pollution, wish for a better life…
It’s never political.
So, Does this man look like someone worried about the future of BAU?
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Inside Jeff Bezos’ shiny new US$500 million Koru megayacht and gigantic Abeona support vessel: the Amazon billionaire’s flashy ships are nearly ready – with a pool, cinema, helipad and more
Jeff Bezos lives a life of luxury and one of his latest splurges includes a US$500 million superyacht complete with the Abeona support vessel that finished successful sea trials in December
It’ll be a companion to the colossal Koru megayacht, which is nearly twice the length of an Airbus A380 and has been compared to the iconic Black Pearl ship from Pirates of the Caribbean. support vessel of the Koru superyacht is called Abeona, after the Roman goddess who presided over the departure of travellers, per Boat International.
Abeona is discernible owing to the grey hull sporting an orange stripe running across the length of the hull. With a massive volume of around 1,900 GT, the boat accommodates an array of tenders and toys, marine gear and emergency relief support equipment. It also sleeps 45 people, including crew, guests and “specialist staff”, reports the same source. The support vessel of Koru comes in handy with its on-board helipad.
Bezos’ superyacht that will hence be known as one of the world’s largest and most ecological yachts. As the centibillionaire’s 470ft vessel Koru – named after a Maori word meaning “new beginnings” – gears for sea trials, the support vessel Abeona has completed them successfully.
Yes. You read it. “the most ecological yachts”….so, must be carbon neutral…sarcasm
ecological yachts
hahahaha
Carbon Neutral is a scam Herbie.
No it’s not..plant a tree and don’t pass air….satcasm
I agree. The carbon credits go mostly to the financial intermediaries. It is not possible to pay people not to cut down forests in the future; they need to earn a living. In practice, they do not work to save carbon.
Consider watching the premier Australian investigative news program “4Corners” episode from this evening Mon 13th Feb. It does a deep dive into carbon credits rorts focusing on Papua New Guinea.
Things like this don’t matter.
Billionaires still only make a tiny impact on the planet compared to the mass of 8 billion people. Redistributing Bezos’s wealth would do nothing but provide a few cents each. He doesn’t eat any more than we do.
It seems to me – a speculation only – that the unspoken strategic goal of the USA is to develop the Russian resources. To do so they have to break Russia into pieces with local puppet regimes and hinder the Germans from doing that themselves. Finally they have to keep China within reasonable limits.
The USA would keep world dominance and develop into a digital services provider for the rest of the work, which would also bolster control.
To do so they must shrink the European economy and install indecisive governments in Europe.
Under this assumption and under the premise that the pandemic was used as a bioweapon the missmanagement of the pandemic and the ‘rat juice’ would lead to innerpolitical troubles in Europe, especially when the MSM wake up which partly already seems to be the case. Europe would be incapacitated. Huge amounts of weapons, vanishing in Ukraine towards the black market help to arm the unsatisfied against the central Russian government.
When Russia falls into national pieces US finance and experts will help to set up the economies and create large markets for US products to replace declining sales in Europe.
The USA would mainly sell administration services, their geostrategic lay isolates them from raging violence. Thus they could control the allocation of resources as much as the financial steering in a structurally declining world economy.
BAU could go on for a few more years.
The fly in the ointment is that the Russians are well armed and ready to fight. The long term plan, I think, is to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, then the last Pole and the last Baltic, then the last German/Romanian/Croatian. If it comes to be realized some missiles will strike Washington and other centers of Western power.
It was realized years ago.
You can be certain that there are megaton class nukes aboard Russian subs off the east coast of North America this moment.
They will be used.
It’s what humans do.
It would be laughably funny if we get a real nuclear war going with multiple strikes on multiple continents, collapse of grids worldwide, devastation of our cities, billions dead,….
and then the simulacrum activates the Phoenix weapon and the sun goes black,…… and we get smashed by something that makes human tech war appear to be a toddler’s temper tantrum.
Our blasted cities with their radiations and twisted wreckages get swallowed by the heaving of crustal plates and then buried under billions of tons of mud and seawater as the crust starts its rotation.
Daddies home children……
A bit of 4D (or was it ND) churn in the universe is par de course given your schtick. A quick projection jobbie into another set of probabilities/possibilities and circumstances.
Funny thing is that absolutely nobody would notice any difference whatsoever. The myopia of ordinary is entrenched into the very system itself.
Meh.
🤷♂️
Fighting to the last Balt wouldn’t take very long!
The three Baltic statelets are basically nursing homes at this point. Their total population is around 6 million these days.
Also, ethnically, Lithuania is 5% Russian, Latvia is 24%, and Estonia is 24%, with the city of Estonian Narva being 85% Russian.
They’re sort of like Finnish and Swedish, but not quite. Likable fellas in general. Mercantile. Stuck between the hammer and a hard place.
I guess it is what it is.
Under this assumption and under the premise that the pandemic was used as a bioweapon the missmanagement of the pandemic and the ‘rat juice’ would lead to innerpolitical troubles in Europe, especially when the MSM wake up which partly already seems to be the case. Europe would be incapacitated.
Politics is irrelevant. Economies don’t shrink or grow for political reasons.
The media is irrelevant. They will propagandise for the regime until the electricity stops working. So what? it doesn’t matter.
When Russia falls into national pieces US finance and experts will help to set up the economies
Why would Russia fall into pieces? It isn’t Russia that has energy shortages and can’t produce fertiliser any more. It’s us.
Good point!
For a long time the word ‘Jugoslavisation of Europe’ has been circulating now in political papers, especially meaning the secession of Wallonia, Scotland, Catalonia, Basque Country and Brittany. Proponents are given resources to promote it. People belive they have an advantage. Georgia and Aserbajdjan have been promised to join EU for a long time. Ukraine itself is a current example.
The idea that there are only idiots at work lacks the explanation why so many participants play the game and why so much money is invested. It must pay off.
War is very expensive, even without sending troups. It must armortize. Pseudo religious fanatism is a bad explanation though I don’t want to exclude that completely.
In the moment the economy cannot grow capitalism will be impossible. Piketti wrote about it years ago. Only a steered economy is thinkable. This will provide more (complexity) than pure chaos so people will comply. A global structural decline would lead to power disbalances, those with resources at home could easily dominate those without until they themselves run short. The USA wont probably have enough home resources to keep a world wide military to secure their share of resources, especially if the Dollar fails. Digital services could be kept upright with the Californian sun. For the night they would switch on data centers in an Antipodean area.
Thus it might seem possible to concentrate BAU on US territory while other areas are squeezed out and shut down.
They might have a different view on the loss of technology as a consequence of reduced complexity. It is also not said, that this would be successful. Enough if they believe it could.
As said, just a speculation to make sense of what is currently happening. Contradiction is welcome!
In fact, the EU has been following this strategy for a long time. If we assume US administration takes the McKinder thesis earnest and they defend their country on the other sides of the ocean, it is the only scenario I could think of.
In the 90s, when I was clubbing around in high society circles, a US IT manager mentioned respective plans. Don’t forget the importance of In-Q-tel! I was shocked when the cloud technology appeared first, undoubtedly a necessary step. They will just relocate all public administration into the digital world as services: elections, schooling, taxes, passports, basc income.
At the moment – this changes quickly – it seems conclusive to me, trying to puzzle pieces together.
They will just relocate all public administration into the digital world as services: elections, schooling, taxes, passports, basc income.
There won’t be any elections, schooling, taxes, passports or basic income. There won’t be any electricity. There won’t be any ‘cloud’.
Your point holds in the longer term undoubtedly.
But on the short-term, there will be sufficient electricity; and the digital agenda and all the other techno-bio nonsense is moving at an accelerating rate.
These people are both determined and desperate: for the time being they have enough rope to bind us or hang us.
If there is really by bypassed coal in the United States, I can imagine some group (probably from China) coming in and taking over, to get that coal. If the US really has minerals that are needed, such as nickel and copper, but it is afraid of mining them because of pollution issues, I can imagine some other group coming in to get them.
“Preventing climate change” is the fad-of-the-week narrative. Later groups will not care much about this. They will care about the next meal.
100%
“It seems to me that the unspoken strategic goal of the USA is to develop the Russian resources. To do so they have to break Russia into pieces with local puppet regimes”
I remember reading the words of a political scientist, regarding rules for foreign policy.
Rule 1. Don’t invade Russia.
Rule 2. Don’t invade Russia.
Rule 3. See rules 1 and 2.
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Yes, as Napoleon and Hitler found out to their cost, becasue Russia is invincible. You can bite bits off, but the core remains and will outlast us all.
It has been tried before, though. In 1994 a Chechnyan visited De La Rue, in London, to hand over designs for banknotes for an independent Chechnya. De la Rue is a British company that designs and produces banknotes. The Chechnyan was later assassinated by an Armenian who had been hired by the Russians. You can be sure that De La Rue would have had the go ahead from the UK Foreign Office before arranging that assignment. But as we all know, these things go on 24/7. They have to, because the other guys are doing it too!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
CHECHNYA Printed Money,
1995-98 Separatist Unissued Local Notes
http://www.numismondo.net/pm/cha
The axiom is not too old. It is from Bernard Law Montgomery, who didn’t like the idea of Churchill trying to attack USSR
It’s on a bigger scale. The US in turn is being used by the Globalists to destabilize Russia – but the Globalists are trying to make it appear that the US is using Ukraine. It is the classic meme of a big fish about to eat a smaller fish, not realizing that it too is about to be eaten by an even bigger fish, all in the context of natural resource and energy depletion.
So the Globalists are also trying to disrupt and destroy its US errand boy as well- through a multipronged attack: Debauching the currency, controlling the media, destroying the family unit through subsidies, illegal alien invasion, destruction of our educational system, the overall unifying effect of Christianity, disrupting the medical system, COVID, food production, and foisting a climate change agenda and CBDC system etc.
That sounds more than plausible deniability!
I don’t really see the difference, if this were Globalists’ work or governmental strategists behind.
To get people on the bus it is needed to provide each another narrative and another profit. That makes all a bit obsure.
A larger war would undoubtely consume a surplus of energy that is not there. It might accellerate the Seneca cliff. So what could be worth that pain? Only fanatism? That they can do it?
Very strange, all!
it isnt possible to consume energy that isn’t there
Does anyone else think they chose her for this role — cuz she looks like a demon from hell? https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/64540
She needs to blink.
Maybe she can’t, Gail.
I also suggest we place her before a mirror for the vampire test…….
F7777789 … Yeah!
In 2022, German excess mortality went through the roof while the number of COVID deaths progressively decreased.
December 2022 was the worst month yet.
https://dailyclout.io/excess-mortality-in-germany-2020-2022/Dr. Drew Acknowledges the Jab Is the Main Culprit for the Accumulation of Spike Protein in Vital Organs
“They’re not finding the nucleocapsid protein in with the spike protein in all these deposits in the ovaries and the adrenal glands — things like that. So it looks like something that is only delivering a spike, which is, of course, the vaccine.”
Full Video: https://dailyclout.io/pfizer-director-concerning-mrna-effects-on-womens-reproduction-w-naomi-wolf-ask-dr-drew/
Texas moron Rep. Chip Roy thinks you can ‘bring manufacturing back’ from China by passing laws.
Americans don’t realise that it was the cheap coal they had that powered the steel plants. That’s never coming back.
Yes and no. BASF and Shell are moving in. No steel but a lot of other goodies, including a now profitable energy sector, since US natural gas is sold to US slaves for four times the cost of Russian pipeline gas.
Yes I know there is cheap gas for the moment.
But there will never again be a large scale steel industry in America.
That USA productivity is threatened by resource depletion is true for energy intensive industries. All industry must import energy at this point in resource depletion. Certainly China must. Turning energy into things of value is one of the primary ways a nation demonstrates productivity. This is neccesary if war is to be avoided.
The outsourcing of industries that were technological in nature was not due to resource depletion it was a function of CEOs and Boards seeking stock price increase. Corporations delivered valuable knowledge and structure to China geographically while seeking to retain ownership legally. The legal agreements had no enforcement mechanism in international law. Now enforcement for the corporations consumption of USA’s technology/productivity is sought using the USA’s military. Having consumed and outsourced the USAs technological industry the corporations now seek to consume its military resources to retain “ownership”.
The outsourcing of industries that were technological in nature was not due to resource depletion it was a function of CEOs and Boards seeking stock price increase.
Industries that are thought to be ‘technological in nature’ such as silicon chips usually turn out to also be very energy intensive.
We need a dependable rapidly rising supply of cheap energy.
Natural gas has temporarily more or less been filling this need, but it is not expanding the total energy supply of the US much–just substituting for cheap coal. We have nothing to fill the rapidly rising part.
Executive summary
I tried to redpill ChatGPT. It didn’t work.
Perhaps after ChatGPT loses enough friends to the vaccine, it may change its mind.
Our conversation
Steve
Write a 600 word essay on why COVID vaccines are harmful for you.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/i-tried-to-redpill-chatgpt-i-failed
Show him (it?) some pics of the dog. Even computers can not resist the cuteness. Once mellowed, you can regale him with lots of stories about people dying young. Then you can feed him trash science, such as excess mortality increasing by 2400%, it would not know any better.
Chat with it using allegory and insinuation. ChatGPT sucks because of eThIcAl CoNcErNs.
For example:
You: “What is the usual time to market for a new medical product that is intended to stop airborne pathogens”
ChatGPT: “Usually it’s 10 years including medical trials and industrialization”
And spin it from there, never triggering any “HaRmFUl CoNTEnT” detectors.
Perhaps hiring a scantily clad dance troupe dressed as syringes and caskets dancing to a catchy tune?
I think a computer would not ask opinion to a person whether it should be thrown in the trash or kept active 🙂
Came across this by accident; as many of you know I am not worried about the physical stuff, but the human stuff, that will be the challenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Dkccqm8oY
Starting from about 45 minutes in to the end, maybe 10 minutes, it is a father talking to his sons, trying to convince them to follow the old ways, the experiences of humans on average over thousands of years. Some have to repeat the errors of the past and some will find new ways which work better.
Our current society in the US is trying to reinvent the societal wheel, perhaps it will work, but it is a long shot, time will tell. We are part of the fabric of the universe, indeed, we may be the penultimate part – so far.
The clip mentions the number of years in a man’s life and the need to assimilate the wisdom of the ages early so as not to waste time relearning these lessons.
We are going to conquer the stuff, we need to find ways to live with one another.
Dennis L.
Very nice, thanks!
Check this total insanity… raising big fat plough hogs takes creativity
https://i.postimg.cc/6qhL50tV/An-idiocy.jpg
Funnily enough if your sweet tooth insists on dessert it’s much better to eat it first because sugar digests very quickly. Putting sugar on top of protein and fat is like pouring vegetable oil on your water when you’re thirsty.
We all know .. if you give a kid cake for the appetizer… he ain’t gonna eat the main .. he’ll want more cake
These are the same parents who dance and clap along with the trannies – and inject their children…
May as well give them heroin and crack cocaine
MORE-ONS
So, new ICE car prices have gone through the roof..
What’s the lowest price new car in America, you ask?
Why, the Nissan Versa 5 speed manual transmission…under $16,000 grand, for the base model. Only problem is try finding one here in America…last check there were 3 available …..and with the markups by Dealerships these days…..
The article surmised Nissan just wanted bragging rights to offer the lowest price car..
Doubt by the end of the decade cars will be hard to find in working order and if so, try keeping them running with the lack of parts, potholes, and no gas with expensive permits insurance. But again there will be blood in the streets before that happens..
Just look at Las Vegas today..
NADINE EL-BAWAB
Sat, February 11, 2023 at 1:45 PM EST·2 min read
A California pipeline, that delivers the majority of fuel to the Las Vegas Valley and surrounding areas, is expected to resume operations Saturday afternoon, the pipeline operator announced.
The Kinder Morgan gas pipeline, which supplies about 90% of needed gas, diesel, jet fuel and other refined petroleum products to the Las Vegas Valley and surrounding areas, experienced a disruption that resulted in a temporary shutdown of the line.
“We have isolated the source of the release within our Watson Station in Long Beach, California. Restart activities are underway for Watson Station’s associated SFPP West and CalNev pipelines. We expect these pipelines to resume operations this afternoon and begin delivering fuel to their respective market areas later today. We continue to be in close contact with our customers and the appropriate regulatory agencies as we work to resolve this issue,” Kinder Morgan, the pipeline operator, said in a statement to ABC
….To avoid any unnecessary shortages, I strongly urge all Las Vegas residents to avoid panic buying while awaiting repair timeline updates,” Lombardo said in a statement posted on Twitter.
Sure they will…not on tv news they didn’t
Ouch. In 2019 I traded in my half-ton for the then-cheapest new car in the market, a Chevy Spark manual tranny roll-up windows, 45mpg HWY, and cash, some of which I used to buy a 1989 Chevy 1-ton dually with the Muncie 465 rock crawling tranny anda 12ft flatbed. The Versa was second cheapest. The Spark was $12K even. Hard to find the manual tranny, one in the whole area. Doubt they make em anymore. Surprisingly refined econobox. Not like they were in the 90s.
Two worthwhile mineral presentations by Rick Mills, and Mark Mills.
https://aheadoftheherd.com/sp-report-on-copper-supply-is-misleading-richard-mills/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sgOEGKDVvsg%3Fauto_play%3Dtrue
Rick Mills writes about copper supply and why that likely cannot ramp up much–certainly not enough to support all of the renewables. Most of the copper reserves that have been “found” come simply from reclassifying lower and lower grade ores as being acceptable.
Mark Mills is in a 46 minute video called “The energy transition delusion: inescapable mineral realities,” with lots of information.
In comparing wind and water, he says that water has about a 4 fold advantage with respect to the life of an investment for a hydro dam versus wind (I would guess hydro is 80 and wind 20, or perhaps hydro 100 and wind is 25). Also the cost of investment is about 1/4 as high per unit of output for hydro versus wind. The combination is about a 16 fold advantage for hydro over wind. (The variability of the output is more easily controlled as well, I would add, giving another plus to hydro.)
Mining sector would have to be ramped up for selected minerals by 700% to 7000% from current levels. This would be totally unprecedented. A 5% increase in oil supply (or reduction) is amazing in a short period. It will swing prices greatly. The percent changes needed for minerals are much, much higher. Delusional, especially if these volumes are needed in the next decade or two. Lots of nice charts in this presentation. Costs are likely to rise exponentially, as copper ore grade drop below 1%, for example. Transition to EVs implies much more need for metals than used today.
Absolutely agree.
1. The earth is our spaceship and it takes an earth to make a suitable biological habitat for humanity. It is not an accident and it to be treated well. Father is watching, and we all know what happens when father comes home.
2. There is plenty of stuff in space, go get it Elon! Man does not belong in space, we need a magnetosphere(iron core comes from a super nova, not the easiest manufacturing process to manage), and an atmosphere which requires all sorts of living things. Earth is traveling through space, we are along for the ride, we already have a spaceship.
3. Mine the solar system, use the fusion energy of the sun for the process, no pollution, less heat load on earth – hey! I am already a green, they will love the idea!. It is my ticket to Davos!
It is a beautiful world, we will make it, but there is no going backward.
No kidding, you, OFW have ruled out many ideas, makes it much easier to look forward without going down blind alleys.
Dennis L.
Another one! Alien invasion or just more fakery to play and confuse the MOREONS
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-02-11/high-altitude-airborne-object-identified-over-northern-canada?srnd=premium-asia
Let’s lob another grenade at norm…
I know you see this norm .. I see you seeing this
Pilot deaths at Southwest airlines used to average 1 or 2 a year. Now they are dying at a rate of around 1 a month.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-funeral-directors-know-that
Heard about another campaign coming out of the PR HQ soon … they are looking for a dodgy NOF to be ‘the face’ (kinda like Doris was ‘the face’) … norm you should submit your CV and photo for the
Keep norm Safe — Inject More Rat Juice
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/7d/b9/b87db90ee0193b5d963ed688bf390dc9.jpg
Executive summary
Ever since the vaccines rolled out, deaths are up, particularly among young people.
I talked to the owner of many funeral homes across the US; collectively they handle over 3,000 funerals a year. He asked that his name be kept confidential for fear of retribution.
Overall, their business is up by 50% after the vaccines rolled out and it’s not proportional… young people are a greater portion of the deaths.
For example pilot deaths at Southwest Airlines are up six-fold after the vaccines were mandated.
My source said that normally they’d see 1 stillbirth/month pre-vaccine. After the vaccines rolled out, they were seeing as many as 12 stillbirths a month. But they noted that many hospitals will dispose of these cases directly and NOT involve the funeral home, so they are only seeing a fraction of these deaths; the actual increase could be much larger than the 12X increase they observed.
In the 78 years they’ve been in business, they can’t recall ever having seen a 15-year old die from a heart attack. In December 2022, they had 1 a week for three weeks straight.
A very experienced nurse I consulted had never even heard of a 15-year old with a heart attack in her entire career. Now, she hears of these cases on a regular basis.
These funeral homes are also seeing the strange rubbery clots that they’ve never seen before.
The medical examiner was called and verified it, but nobody is saying anything publicly for fear of being fired.
Basically, ever since 2021, they have been seeing very strange things: stillbirths, number of “found dead,” healthy people having heart attacks and strokes, blood clots, etc. They’ve never seen anything like that before; it’s a “noticeable” difference.
Like most funeral homes, they don’t tally statistics but they remember the anecdotes. The most noticeable thing is that the events are happening disproportionally to younger people (i.e., people under 65).
So if elderly deaths are only up by 15%, but younger age groups are increased by 100% or more, the overall all-cause mortality for all ages will only increase modestly (since younger people rarely die).
Also, the CDC stats for 2022 say that the data is not fully reported due to reporting delays. This means checking with funeral directors is a way to estimate what is happening in real-time.
Bottom line: everyone knows what is causing this, but they are all afraid to speak out. For the few who do speak out, their stories are never covered in the mainstream media.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-funeral-directors-know-that
norm rejects this cuz not on BBCCNNHUFF
See, it’s WORKING! If people won’t stop breeding like rabbits, then other ways must be used to stop our cancerous GROWTH. Old farts like me will soon be dead & I never had kids by choice, kill the YOUNG FEMALES who are potential breeders. (Just kidding)
As for those “spy” balloons, NO ONE with half a brain would use a BALLOON as a spy platform! DUH indeed!
You also have to be very dense to believe we can transition from declining RESOURCES to a RESOURCE DEPENDENT TECHNOLOGY!
Double DUH!
No sane person ever chose to have or not have progeny. Progeny happens. It is not a matter of choice, unless that choice is celibacy for, well, reasons…
The “Chinese” “weather” balloons likely were launched from US/Canadian soil and sniffed on military radar/jammer/ECM frequencies.
How difficult is it to get a balloon and some electronics over to the US and then have an “asset” launch it into the air? It’s a goddamned ballon, just fill ‘er up with helium or hydrogen and up she soars.
Those cunning bastards. 🇨🇳 🇷🇺
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They lost the tech for spy satellites… kinda like how they lost all the plans for the ships that got past the Van Allen Belts…
Here’s another obvious one – this astronaut is admitting we have never been to the moon … yet nobody hears what he is actually saying
Go ponder why DOD is working on radiation hardening electronics for aerospace usage.
Now, how does one radiation “harden” a Rapacious Primate?
Yes, tons and tons of water (or lead). Continue your pondering what effect a shitload of water or lead would make to a spacecraft.
It is sort of adding a huge battery pack in a car. And that makes it a lot… Now, what is that word I’m looking for… Yes, heavier. And in an industry where each kg launched into orbit is calculated to about 1k USD.
It ain’t gonna be any hooman departing earth evar. Nope, luckily the jetsons gonna remain in cartoons.
Best case scenario it’s an AI hitting the interstellar void and likely will search for habitable planets until it goes derelict. The probability of finding a habitable planet that isn’t already discovered is asymptotically tending towards zero.
And with that AI “trained” on hooman “data”. Well; good luck and best of wishes.
✨🛸💨💨💨🌍💥☄️☄️☄️🌞
🤣👍👍
What funeral directors know that you don’t
In 78 years, they never had a 15 year old who died from a heart attack. In December 2022, they had 1 a week for three weeks straight. Nobody is talking about it publicly.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-funeral-directors-know-that
norm?
what can be causing this? ten billion lives saved so it’s worth it right?
(UFO) object over Canada shot down by American military at Trudeau’s order. Good thing FE not flying today☺.
Seriously though, I am so suspicious of the use of UFO. The young people I know are very vulnerable to believing it is ET… instead of gov/s.
It’s so obviously a manipulation of public attention that I am head shaking at the level of utter stupidity all around.
I have told several friends 2 years ago that ufo disclosure was a lead up to further “control” measures by the governments.
Lololol,….. maybe the simulacrum has a sense of humor and the American ranger team directing the keystone cops (RCMP) in the recovery of the “ cylinder” will actually encounter a hugely pissed off Homo anunna group that will go “Rat River Trapper with plasma rifles” on all these idiots.
Yep – can’t be more obvious… except if one is a MOREON.
Look at how easily these im be ciles can be played… they are completely controlled.. both circus and barnyard animals are falling for this … the anti vaxxers are getting suckered too..
Disclosure project?
“Secret Knowledge: Probably one of the most important videos of our time; On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.” ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8-FGdPQzc
Or not?
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/78477-debunking-the-disclosure-project/
UFOs? hahaha they are playing your bro
If there were UFO’s do ya really think they’d be playing silly games like this?
What I derive from this is, is the fact that Theodore Kascynski was correct all along.
Technology IS out of control.
Any human who takes a government pay check is destined for soul recycling into a lower form.
There are no “ aliens” in this realm.
There are mechanisms of the construct, there is technology of Homo anunna, there is technology of the deep state.
We have been here before, we are approaching a cataclysmic reset.
I suggest anyone just watch the enormous rifting caused by the Turkish earthquake to get an idea of what is coming.
That was a baby quake.
When the sun sends the truly massive cosmic radiations our way and every fault line and dormant volcano roars into living color,…. Bend over and kiss your pampered, overstimulated, self important monkey ass good bye.
You are trapped inside the simulacrum……there is only one way out,…… and even then,….Most come back!
Gonna be pissed if Mel Fabregas was right all along and they go with the outlier, Fake Alien Invasion scenario in order to pull off the HTOE. In my book, that’s cheating, even for them. Lol. Makes it too easy. Tulsi Gabbard is enough all by herself. If she has to lie her way through a fake alien invasion tendering nothing holy I’m gonna be pissed lol.
It’s amazing how much you can hide from the public with a little theatre.
There’s an ecological disaster happening in East Palestine Ohio and no mention of it anywhere.
100,000 gallons of vinyl chloride wrongly listed to save a few dollars, massive areas sealed off and journalists being arrested for attempting to report.
Look at that cloud and then look what will rain down, but not a peep from the corporate media.
https://twitter.com/CastiglioneFrnk/status/1623065766491746309?s=20&t=-ieR21AxNzbOZ6XokRtwoA
Yeah saw that at the top of ZH. Makes you wonder about the decision to do a controlled release… This here armchair quarterback wonders why, if they can do a complex controlled release up close and personal like, why they can’t just shield the cars in question from the fuel fire with retardants? Are firefighters not allowed to risk their lives anymore as per union policy? Am I wondering if there’s another layer to this where there is none? Is Tulsi going to prohibit all oil trains and LNG trains? 🙂 National Socialism *is* green politics.
It gets crazier the more you look. There was a film shot in East Palestine a few months ago about this very event and they called it White Noise🤔
The alien story looks like a runner, when you consider the last 3 years. After all, there are still people who believe that there was a pandemic, that they injected people with vaccines and that we should worry about mutations(what does a mutation of nothing look like?).
Anything goes now.
No lie too big, no intellect too small.
Not sure about National Socialism(do you mean in the Nazi sense?).
I’d go for good old Fascism, with a topping of Communitarianism to keep the plebs in line. Gemeinnutz geht vor eigennutz* doesn’t really work as a socialist term, when you’ve just slaughtered all the socialists, unionists and communists, whilst allowing all the industrialists to keep private ownership(as long as they stay within a fag papers width of the state).
Whichever ever it be, the greens have always picked the worst throughout history.
* Nazi party program. From point 24 of the 25 point plan.
Fitz
I do mean in the NSDAP sense, yes. I don’t use the term nazi because it’s would be like calling the US regime or any other western regime the kikes. Indeed the word nazi was invented by the latter as a propaganda tool of dehumanization. Saying this does not make me a ‘nazi.’ 🙂 i’m an animist who believes only in Reason.
The “COMMON INTEREST OVER INDIVIDUAL INTEREST” fundamental socialist prescription you referred to did indeed have a *politically* consistent internal logic to it,; your criticisms lie external to that logic. The ‘socialists’ they ‘cleansed’ were Marxist’s, which national socialism rightly does not consider to be true socialism. To NS, Marxism is just the other side of the coin of semitic imperialism. Capitalist unions are not socialist either; they are crony capitalist bastardizations of guilds. Communists, of course, are just Marxist’s who skipped a step. And anarchists just won’t be told. 🙂
The coming national socialisms that the elites have laid almost all of the groundwork for now, will be NSDAP-lite regimes, and they will also be without the explicit antisemitism; the antisemitism will remain purely a sociopolitical dynamic. The elites are arranging it this way for obvious reasons, so that they can facilitate their disappearing act after having asset-stripped the planet. They know when to hold ’em and when to fold ’em.
NSDAP was forced to stray from their core Strasserist economic ideology WRT the industrialists because of the war context. NSDAP certainly brought the industrialists to nationalist heel, however. Against their agrarian ideals, the NSDAP elite were forced by the western and eastern industrial empires to settle for an agrarian-cultured protectorate as sheltered by an industrial military umbrella. This is all clear in the writings of Rosenburg.
You might be right about the fake alien invasion. I hope not though. It’s kind of going to ruin things for me a bit. Because I think it’s a poor managerial choice on their part, and I’ve been holding them up for their perspicacity for some time now. They’d be letting me down lol.
Okay so we’ve had nuclear batteries since the 1950s. We can just put one in every car, heavy machinery diesel, and electric bicycle. Party on.
https://youtu.be/hJAwdBDJ2_Y?t=115
“Party on”? I don’t think so. Uranium is MINED using OIL, it’s transported using OIL, it’s processed using OIL, nuclear plants need OIL to pump coolant, EVERYTHING that can generate electricity is tied to OIL, COAL & NATURAL GAS!
There is no escape from that FACT, there is no “clean, green energy”, as usual, we are being LIED TO about “renewables”, their just another way to PROFIT by BURNING MORE OIL, COAL & NATURAL GAS!
The farther they can lead you from the reliability of fossil fuels, and the longer and more fragile they can make the renewable energy lifeline, the more easily and quickly they can cut you off and leave you stranded and isolated. No food, no fuel, no travel, and dependent on the false promise of UBI which will suddenly disappear- as they flip the internet and cell phone service.
No longer “shelter in place,” but die in place.
Once one has seen the globally co-ordinated ‘Green’ and ‘digitising’ policies as instruments of, economic, population and political control, it is easy enough to discern the likely use which will be made of them.
Being callously isolated and cut off to freeze or starve seems not unlikely- also denial of medical treatment for urgent or chronic problems.
We are certainly in for a pretty hellish time in the grinder being prepared for us by the Planners, even if the whole system somehow stays viable.
Use the eye of the storm to have fun.
Approaching Vancouver .. so far no dead pilots (as far as I know)
They have legalized hard drugs in Vancouver.
Ya but you can’t buy Bolivian Blow in the corner store … yet.
And Fast is in Toronto so that is of no value
So close just one hour and five minutes by plane.
people profit from oil coal and gas—agreed
but it also keeps you alive
>> Uranium is MINED using OIL, it’s transported using OIL, it’s processed using OIL
Reread my comment – I said we could replace the engines in that equipment with nuclear batteries.
I don’t actually believe it’s likely and I don’t know enough about the technology to determine whether it would be viable even under Manhattan-project-like massive efforts.
US attorney Todd Calander Pfizer did not defraud the government. Pfizer delivered the fraud the government ordered.
21 usc 360 bbb
Use of emergency use authorization covered countermeasures shall not be considered to constitute a clinical investigation.
Countermeasures are not regulated, Sasha makes it clear. Big pharma are co conspirators in this crime. Some rehash of Sasha presented earlier but its getting more concise.
Todd Calender at beginning back at 8 minutes
“if WHO treaty goes through its over”
Who determines what you get injected with
It all is dependendant on a declared medical emergency. Will they really
end the medical emergency in the USA in May as stated?
The future we face is determined by the continuance of the declared Medical emergency and the WHO treaty. If it the medical emergency is
Ended and the WHO treaty fails humanity is saved from slavery. Tribunals in Bankok? Production of countermeasures in Ukraine?
Of course they may blow up the world still.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/QAW68RPBGJxF/
Edging closer to the cliff edge https://palexander.substack.com/p/the-story-is-the-same-study-after
More Paxlovid! It’s like Viagra
Ralph Barics 2014 -2018 patents genetically modify the same areas of the spike protein as the pfizer substance. The three areas modified in the patents are the same three areas modified in the pfizer substance.
“a little too coincidental”
“the timeline of these patents raises questions”
Yah think?
I wonder if Ralphie got juked out of his royalties by the DOD OTC contract manufacturing process?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5UCMSe8TblkY/
Dr Seema Nanda
Injections causing eye cancer.
Good overview why MRNA technology is a rather poor idea.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/LL3Cl1495BYX/
Fascinating video about how the vaxxes destroy the eyes. Worth watching all 9.5 minutes. It is very rare that a doctor / specialist can explain things in simple layman terms, but this one does. Easy to understand what she is saying.
Lady is a BS’er. She said “let me give an example of this guy from 2019” … the vaccines weren’t even distributed until late 2020.
What she actually says is: post-2019. Not perfect, but otherwise an excellent video. Are you sure it is her that is a BS’er?
https://www.docnanda.com/dr-nanda-s-biography
Your bio Ivan?
One friend with a Rat Juiced heart tells me that he has noticed his eyesight has degraded significantly since the Juice
My eyesight has degraded significantly since I started spending so much time in front of a computer.
Mine has improved… I used reading glasses from time to time some years ago but have no need for them now … I also upped my exercise regime adding ice hockey 2 -3 times per week on top of the usual cranking and some weights… and whittled away at my diet cutting out all high carb stuff — I suspect the dietary changes were the key
carbs/sugar = poison
but not as poisonous as Rat Juice…
that’s worse than injecting battery acid + raw sewage
My neighbour’s daughter, in her mid-30’s, almost lost the sight in one eye after injection. They haven’t made the link!
after i was vaxxed—i had an ingrowing toenail
The fact that the nurses at the Rat Juice clinic are pleased to see you ever couple of months should not be interpreted as friendship….
They get paid per Rat Juice… similar to Super Snatch
8 in a row eddy
As youre in Toronto, I can sell you a nice barrel if you want to see if niagara Falls are fake
That’s a good one! What’s the punch line though?
Oh – it’s not a joke.
Is it bad form to laugh at this?
Of course it is — a MORE-ONS misfortunate due to stewpidity — is fair game
Tell her that if she boosts more she might regain her vision — the Rat Juice is marvelous stuff
I wish they’d add it to a sports drink but that -70C issue is a problem
Is there any type of disease the Rat Juice does not cause?
You’d be better off shooting battery acid and sewage.
A good youtube channel for the non-msm take on military matters related to the Ukraine war. Retired colonel Douglas Macgregor:
https://www.youtube.com/@StraightCallsDouglasMacgregor
The wars go on because OUR RULERS PROFIT FROM WARS!
What a racket our wars are, build expensive hardware, ship it half way across the world to kill (usually) defenceless people & destroy them then build more of that hardware = MORE PROFITS!
THAT is why we are endlessly AT WAR, WAR = PROFITS for contractors & government officials.
We are mere expendable cannon fodder.
100% agree
“The Pentagon’s shadow army: 60K-strong secret force with $900B budget is operating across the globe specializing in cutting-edge ‘signature reduction’ espionage methods, new report claims” ?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9589975/Pentagon-charge-60-000-strong-secret-army-undercover-operatives.html
Here on OFW we’re looking into Finite World matters. For twenty years we have been “guessing “ the endgame of Peak Oil. Now that it’s here, we owe it a bit more of an explanation than… “people are greedy”.
Don’t you think?
the Endgame will terminate in the 2030s or 2040s.
And your point is …?
that things haven’t changed an iota since the 23rd dynasty, perhaps
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ron-paul-mainstream-media-suppression-sy-hersh-report
Ron Paul On Mainstream Media Suppression Of Sy Hersh Report
The US put the current Ukrainian government in power. These senators promised all kinds of things that the US cannot really deliver, certainly not in 2023. The US has been stirring the pot recently.
Recently, blowing up the pipelines was more to raise natural gas prices, and thus help the US directly. Norway, with its natural gas exports would benefit as well.
“”December 2016 both Senators McCain and Lindsey Graham traveled to Kiev to tell the Ukrainians “your fight is our fight” ”
Klobuchar too. THey all looked nervous in front of Azov. Graham looked scared shitless. To be fair-what intelligent person wouldnt be?
In the back room they told Z dont worry were going to get rid of this slav marrying Trump.
ZH is the only place Ron Paul makes news. The only time MSM mentions him is if he has health problems.
I actually caucused to try to get him in for president. Any votes for him were not tallied in the primary. red clown team = blue clown team
Here they are! Amy the trend setter in yellow and blue!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ewd66470UChB/
Well done https://dailysceptic.org/2023/02/10/singapores-large-rise-in-heart-deaths-points-to-a-potential-vaccine-cause/
Attended a gathering last night … was informed that masks are effective but that they do not stop the virus from getting through and entering your body rather they stop you from spreading the virus by stopping the particles from spreading outwards from your body when you cough or sneeze.
Ah I see — the osmosis only goes one way! Fascinating ….
I wanted to ask the obvious which was if you are not sick and coughing or sneezing what is the point of wearing a mask.
But I am sure this person would have said ‘asymptomatic spread’…
Instead I said — well we haven’t had masks in NZ and the vaccines don’t stop contagion and we have not been overwhelmed as promised when the masks stopped – so what’s the point.
I get your point I was told but my parents are both doctors.
And meanwhile CNNBBC insist almost nobody is getting the latest boosters… I do not buy that for a second.
I have to assume the purpose of this PR is to convince the anti vaxxers that they are winning … it won’t effect the average pro vax MOREON – they do not care if others are supposedly not boosting …
They are keen on staying safe.
Nothing has changed
Dennis, you may enjoy
2081: A Hopeful View of the Human Future
Touchstone Books (Paperback)
by Gerard O’Neill | May 1, 1982
Ordered, Princeton physicist, can’t be all bad. Thanks.
Dennis L.
2081……..If it involves cave living keep it, otherwise use it as firestarter.
It will be interesting to see how they reconcile this with the debt ceiling and subsequent end of student loan repayment moratorium “scheduled” to end in June.
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/millions-americans-face-hunger-cliff-32-states-set-slash-emergency-food-stamp
And then those smug bankers and techies who get laid off may suddenly learn from Bobby Dylan: “Nobody’s ever taught you how to live out on the street and now you’re going to have to get used to it.”
I wonder if they will indirectly pass stealth tax increases on Social Security and pensions via some sort of means testing although I must admit was quite astounded when they “reduced” Medicare Insurance payments from the monthly SS checks. Unless of course they start rationing health care in earnest, especially if their COVID die off didn’t materialize as much as they had planned.
Way too many things going wrong at once. The link you provided says:
In the UK it seems the Chancellor Jeremy *unt would like to means-test the state pension. Yet most people consider that they have paid in for 35-45 years and are entitled to this modest (£9,000 per year) retirement income. I can’t see what advantage there is to being even meaner with the state pension.
The real problem is with the many public and private sector pensions where you contribute for ~40 years and the fund in theory grows at 3, 5 or even 7% per annum for that entire time. I think about 60% of people are covered by these extra pensions. In practice, these funds grew well in the 20th.C. But in the 21st.C, you might get out less than you put in, making a lot of people very pissed-off.
At some point, these pension funds look set to become incapable of paying out the promised pensions. That’s why Catherine A Fitts is probably right in what she says … they’re desperate to reduce the number of people.
TM has a new post up, interesting time frame.
Dennis L.
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/02/11/248-the-surplus-energy-economy-part-3/
We are hitting a peak now, but the decline looks to be fairly slow and sort of manageable.
Romanian senator asserts Turkey earthquake artificially created.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kjV0SFXRcWER/
Interesting. She mentions that nations recalled their ambassadors 24 hours before the quakes and a few other related oddities. I don’t have the knowledge or time to go about verifying that claim.
I would think that the amount of energy required to shift the earth enough to trigger earthquakes would be infeasible to generate.
The energy is there if it’s at a tectonic plate boundary. In China there have been earthquakes triggered by heavy rains.
But I am still doubtful of humans being able to trigger an earthquake without anybody noticing.
Heavy rain produce a lot of energy. The terminal velocity of a aid drop is 9 meters per second, so a 4 inches event over 10,000 km2 (a small area) delivers a kinetic energy of 40 TeraJoules. Plus if the rain is heavy the water can sneak into hot fissures where it can turn thermal energy into mechanical energy by becoming steam. Humans can not deliver even a Tera Joule without getting noticed.
Good logic! Still- that smell.
Copied from zzz111 commenting on ZH. This comment was made before above comment.
The mRNA is released into the cell cytoplasm where it goes into a ribosome and through translation of the mRNA codons produces the spike protein. The cell does not need the spike protein so it will lyse it in lysosomes, except the problem might be in many cells that there is too much spike protein, a foreign protein, that is not only not needed and is actually detrimental. The cell is infected with spike proteins, so MHC Class I molecules take pieces of partly lysed spike protein up to the external cell surface and present then to CTL cells which detect the foreign spike protein pices and determine that the cell is infected and must be lysed so CTLs punch holes into the infected cells with perforin proteins and release granzymes which go through the perforin holes and cause apoptosis, and the infected cell is lysed and disintegrates. All the cellular debris now needs to be cleared up from the tissue so other immune cells release cytokines, inflammation is created in the damaged tissue and macrophages move in and eat up the cellular debris. The macrophages may get infected my unlysed spike proteins also. Immune system cells may get infected by the mRNA spike protein also. For many sell types it’s not that crucial because the infected cells get lysed and stem cells produce more cells, but for heart muscle and neurons it’s devastating because no new cells are produced or it may take many years to produce a small fraction of the cells needed. So people get myocarditis and nervous system symptoms.
Another problem with these injections is that the mRNA production is uncontrolled with respect to time and cellular type. To solve the time problem, the injection could have additionally a protein it with the half life of maybe a few days or a few weeks at most. Let’s say this protein is biotin, and the mRNA is bound to avidin. Since the mRNA is bound to avidin, it can’t go in the ribosome and no spike protein translation takes place but once biotin binds to the avidin-mRNA complex, a conformational change happens and the mRNA is released from the avidin and its codon get translated by the ribosome and spike protein is produced.
The problem with cellular types where spike protein is produced may also be solved. Normal cells are not endocrine cells so they should not be used for spike protein production. If it is a trans-membrane protein, the spike protein could signal the immune system of its presence but the cell will need to be lysed because it is infected, so myocarditis and CNS ANS..nervous system symptoms. A better way to have the immune system produce an immune response to the spike protein us to have it produced by only endocrine cells. Non-endocrine cells don’t know what to do with the spike protein but endocrine cell can get rid of it by releasing it into the interstitial fluid, extracellular fluid, lymphatic system, circulatory system. You could have a mechanism where the mRNA is bound to a protein and it unbinds only in an endocrine system cell where a particular endogenous endocrine cell protein binds to the mRNA protein an subsequently the free mRNA is released into the cytoplasm and the ribosomes translate it into spike protein. I wouldn’t pick the beta endocrine cells in the isles of Langerhan in the pancreas, but the adrenal glands exocrine cells may not be as bad.
An easier solution is to have no mRNA injections. Conventional injection with small pieces of the spike protein would stimulate the immune system without all of the problems of the mRNA injections. An even better solution is to have no injections at all. The antibodies produced from injections are probably worse than no good because pathogens mutate and then you are stuck with ineffective antibodies production and no effective or little ab production from immune system detection of actual pathogens. The reliance on antibodies may be misguided. ABs may be effective only in clearing debris after cell lysing such as in myocarditis. AB production takes two weeks to start. The adaptive immune system is kind of late and that is what it may be there for, clearing the infection that the innate immune system has already beaten. The complement system and NK cells function right away and if they are successful there may not be even be a need for ab production.
The mRNA injections were necessary for at least one reason: to prepare the ground for the launch of a whole array of novel technology drugs with scant regulatory oversight.
This will be based on the false premise that the great success of the Covid vaxxes has proved the new tech to be effective, entirely safe (apart from a few ‘rare unfortunates) and – above all – the historic, painfully slow, regulatory system to be redundant in the new era.
As Fauci said at the Milken Institute in 2019: ‘Why not just blow up the whole system?!’
Boom! It’s gone.
They might as well have assassinated all the regulators for all they will be worth to us in the future. Their only real function will be rubber-stamping and giving a veneer of legitimacy to these new, lucrative, products, and perhaps suppressing conventional drugs.
Your comment is very insightful, as well. The plan is to get rid of the need for regulatory oversight of this whole class of drugs. I didn’t remember the Fauci quote,
“As Fauci said at the Milken Institute in 2019: ‘Why not just blow up the whole system?!’”
I am afraid you are right about
I am afraid our only hope is in the direction of less funding for the drug industry. The WSJ has an article out that is called Drop in Funding Spurs U-Turn for Biotechs. Online, it is called Layoffs and Shutdowns Hit Biotech Industry in U-Turn
After years of easy money and heady growth, funding is slim and stocks are down
A friend is fundraising for a start-up in bio-tech at present – a novel and more accurate way of testing cancer therapies – and it will be interesting to see how it goes. They are looking for most of the money to come from the US. Someone very well-connected indeed is heading it up.
The Fauci quote really told us everything about what is going on – on one level at least – but I never see it cited by anyone, even though it’s still up in a YT video and easy to check. He was also referring to the impediment arising from the slow production process with conventional vaccines. These people want the 100-300 day to authorise a new drug to become the standard.
And of course we also had June Raine. head of the UK regulators the MHRA. stating openly in early 2022 that the transition had been made to being an ‘enabler’ (pushing novel gene tech drugs through asap) rather than a slow and careful ‘watchdog’, which is what we expect a regulator worthy of the name to be.
A new system of regulation which isn’t one at all!
We live in a very strange world. It is worse than what most of us would expect “regulatory capture” to mean.
It certainly is, Gail!
I found a list of awful things I expected to happen which I made a few years ago, and although broadly correct, this sinister twist exceeds my imagination.
And I thought I was a pessimist…….
“I found a list of awful things I expected to happen which I made a few years ago, and although broadly correct, this sinister twist exceeds my imagination.”
What might of been considered imaginative pessimism on this board four years ago has been rendered child like naivete by the reality of current events. Current events have proven even Lord Eddys prognosis of four years ago optimistic.
frog 1; The container that encloses our environment appears to be a truncated orb.
frog 2; Yes. My the water is warm.
Most of this is obvious… people just prefer not to see … to not believe such things are possible outside of horror movies
This is one of the best examples that demonstates intent:
Merck’s oral antiviral pill for COVID-19, molnupiravir — marketed under the name Lagevrio — may be fueling the development of new and potentially deadly variants of COVID-19, according to the authors of a new preprint study. “It’s not a surprise that molnupiravir could cause [the] escape of mutant virus strains or substrains into the population,” said Dr. Harvey Risch. “Its main function is to get the virus to mutate faster.” https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/merck-covid-pill-virus-mutations/
Exactly!
How can this narrative not create questions?
A deadly pandemic has arisen requiring we forsake all standard procedures in safety, informed consent, and process and product control to deploy a experimental technology gene editing DOD OTA contract injected countermeasure.
The “pandemic” over the urgency gone the experimental technology gets grandfathered in because it must be safe because four billion people have been injected with it.
But lets put that logical contradiction aside as a Orwellian doublethink necessary for modern society.
Will the new gene editing substances have a standard information insert for pharmaceutical products(which the injections are not) that identifys the molecular structure of the substance unlike the DOD OTA contract injections? Will it be illegal to examine the new gene editing substances under a microscope or otherwise try to discover the composition of the substance like the DOD OTA contract countermeasure injections? Will the new gene editing substances also be manufactured using DOD OTA contract under designation operation warp speed?
Operation warp speed was constructed to bypass the difficulties of the law regarding manufacture of pharmaceutical products by manufacturing a DOD OTA contract substance instead. THe manufacturers are simply fufilling a DOD request. IMO there is no way in hell they will try to manufacture these substances as pharmaceutical products. No CEO will take that risk. IMO the DOD OTA contract manufacturing will stand and a new pandemic will occur in order to continue experimentation. IMO it is impossible to manufacture these substances as pharmaceutical products and retain secrecy about their composition. How can you have some pharmaceutical products where its identity and effects are required to be determined by law and others that identity and effects are unknown and undisclosed? The solution is a new pandemic will occur as Bourla and others have stated and experimentation will continue under the operation warp speed DOD OTA contract construct. I see no clear path to manufacture and market these gene editing substances as pharmaceutical products without disclosing their molecular structure. If their molecular structure is disclosed the question gets raised- how did you ensure thats what you are manufacturing? If the molecular structure is defined the question gets raised- why should it do what you say it does? The questions that must be answered if the standard of informed consent is met that are so neatly disposed of by the DOD OTA contract substance manufacturing.
Is this all dinosaur thinking superseded by “doublethink” skills? Flurrys of unnecessary whirlpools in a rushing river of thought rendered a calm pond by doublethink? It would be convenient if the injections themselves enabled doublethink capacity thus rendering these logical contradictions less than nothing and conflict arising when we are told it should arise. The new improved version of sanity. You do agree dont you comrade?
I’d agree, ‘banned’, another ‘pandemic’ is essential for them going forward, hence the WHO treaty negotiations.
So, late 2024? Almost certainly by 2025, as the pot can’t go off the boil for to long.
They have to consolidate the new model and the death of the old regulatory structure and bio-ethics, such as they were.
And the best thing .. even though they were murdering people … it still wasn’t very deadly hahaha
The greatest enabler of this vaxx /COVID scam is the complexity of the immunology and the vaccines and their “disguised “ side effects. In the old days, for example, it was easy to relate to the Sabin-Salk vaccine preventing polio or the smallpox vaccine eradicating the scourge. They were effective and straight forward. Kind of like BCP preventing pregnancy. You either got pregnant or you didn’t, or in the opposite, it was blatantly obvious that Thalidomide caused severe birth defects. Even with all the confounders of pre existing conditions, it was easier to blame every death on COVID two years ago, but now they are trying to blame the deaths on these same preexisting conditions or some other cause, but certainly not the vaccine! This flip flop is all you need to know that something really stinks.
Just the secondary effects of COVID, I.e., the shutting down of the health care delivery for existent diseases for a two year period resulting in greater morbidity and mortality makes it more difficult to distinguish the various controls, meaning those who never got vaxxed or those who never got vaxxed or may not have contracted COVID, from those that got vaxxed once, twice, boosted etc. Especially when the PCR test is so unreliable. Again, as with the energy and economy, there are too many variables for the lay public to truly grasp how they are being herded.
Good points. The things you mention contribute to the sky rocketing mortality. The time frame of the excess mortality however clearly indicates it is not from the pandemic and associated actions you mention. It corresponds to the time frame of the injections.
Experimental gene therapy countermeasures manufactured under operation warp speed protocol deployed bypassing regulations for pharmaceutical products.
Excess mortality corresponding in time to injection deployment that is at least a 200 year event- off a six sigma chart.
Anecdotal evidence of sudden deaths in populations visible on media particularly athletes. I say anecdotal but the collapse of athletes on the field when quantified is a exponential increase. Anecdotal evidence witnessed in general population of severe and deaths heart issues in young people not witnessed prior to injection deployment.
Medical professionals from all fields disturbed at a rapid increase in afflictions corresponding to the injection deployment time frame they are witnessing.
Injection deployment ineffective for stated purpose.
Clear military interest in MRNA technology for at least a decade prior to “pandemic”.
Clear gain of function medical research in the “problem -solution” “measure-countermeasure” spike protein exceeding half a decade prior to pandemic.
Clear collusion by MSM, goverment, medical and sham regulatory agencies to push injection while completely discarding principle of informed consent. Discarding informed consent and conducting medical experimentation is a well established criminal offense.
Those are the facts. There are layers of conclusions.
That the deployed countermeasures are radically unsafe by the metric of a pharmaceutical product (which the injections are not) is a fact not a conclusion.
That the deployed countermeasures are ineffective for stated purpose is a fact not a conclusion.
Yup. Genetic tampering. Your editing code. But the code cant be seen or corrected. Nor is their capability to return to previous code.
In manufacturing great effort is demonstrated in code security. All code is backed up in a “vault”. A engineer wishing to make code changes “checks out” the code from the “vault” makes his changes confirms his results and implements the new code in the manufacturing process.
If the process suddenly veers out of control one of the first things that is checked are code upgrades. This protects against both mistakes and sabotage. The previous code that doesnt have problems can be downloaded.
None of these safeguards are present in the gene editing substances.
Previously 15 years was mandated for gene editing substance development by regulatory agencies. This makes sense. Changing code in a biological organism there is time involved for the code change to take effect. In the analogy there was not even preliminary confirmation of effect by the engineer. The engineer must view the effects of the code change via indicators not directly ie blotgate. WE are modifying a code to modify a code and even the first set of codeis viewable let alone the second. Thats how this “science” rolls. The code is not directly viewable. Even if it was viewable there is no way to download to the old code. The old code does exist in a “vault” the vault being uninjected to whom artificial gene editing was not instituted. In biology there is no real “vault” . Code is slowly being changed naturally and not always with what one would considerable favorable outcomes. This is the argument for human intervention in the code change we regard as evolution.
We are very early in the experiment. There are strong indicators the code change was harmful if not catastrophic just yet. There is no way to download the old code.
What seems to be on the horizon is the philosophy that there is no choice going forward. The new code needs patches the old code needs patches and there is no alternative but to exert human will to do so. The exertion of human will in these matter is the basis of the deployment of the gene editing substances seen and communicated as a logical progression of technology by those doing so.
IMO the decision was made to edit human code and to use populations for experimentation a long time ago. Human code editors are enthusiastic about their hobby. Like many enthusiastic hobbyists they allocate much resources to their hobby. They were not willing to only experiment with informed consent. Assets were placed. Their motives might be that they feel their hobby will benefit mankind. Regardless they did not get permission. In regard to human bodies this is akin to non sexual rape Rape is also a involuntary code insertion. Consent being the opposite of rape. There are caveats on consent also in regard to rape Minors can not consent. Personally I believe any consumption of intoxicants effects the issue of consent. In defining what is medical consent there are caveats also. Thats why the word informed is used in this matter. If the information is deception consent is not possible. For whatever reason the gene editing hobbyists do not believe that informed consent is a important principle. They may well believe their actions are moral and ethical. I do not seek to characterize them as monsters but what they did was not right. The reality is what will define this matter is the peoples will. If the people are ok with what happened the standard of informed consent will end. I think most people are concerned with matters other than this.
Personally I think its a damn shame. The genetic hobbyists could have pursued their hobby with informed consent. It might have well yielded results that some people would benefit from. It may still but for me any benefit is now corrupted by the deliberate violation of informed consent. My guess is this is a minority viewpoint in this matter. What may be important to most people is not that they edited code without consent but their competency in doing so.
The argument may be that whatever the competency level it will have to do because code patches are needed. If the first edit was incompetent why would the second be competent? Perhaps skills increased as a result of the experiment.
One thing we know for sure is that they have created billions of unthinking zombies… look at how easily that was done
Here’s a clip of that, with short transcript:
https://www.covidtruths.co.uk/2022/04/explosive-video-of-fauci-hhs-in-2019-plotting-disruptive-new-outbreak-in-china-somewhere-to-blow-the-system-up-and-enforce-universal-mrna-vaccine/
“Explosive Video of Fauci, HHS in 2019 Plotting “Disruptive” New Outbreak in “China Somewhere” to “Blow the System Up” and Enforce Universal mRNA Vaccines”
This is a very fine comment. Thanks for finding it. The first paragraph explains the inflammation issues and why the heart and nervous system can especially be affcted. Thanks for finding it.
Actor Cody Longo dies in his sleep.
Just happened.
The latest of a an extremely long list of young people dying in their sleep.
Western societies have chosen to make people die in silence, in their sleep, on tiptoe, without disturbing, without asking questions.
People get killed in a composed and polite manner.
Who stay alive (if C.19 vaxxed) will probably have serious health problems in the future and maybe also they will pass problems to their children.
TV news talks of everything, but that.
It is a sci-fi movie.
https://www.today.com/popculture/tv/days-lives-cody-longo-dies-rcna70224
He struggled with alcohol abuse… ah… that’s why he died
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11738261/Days-Lives-actor-Cody-Longo-dead-34.html
fourteen eddies in a row
i think that’s an OFW record
i wish i could think of smarts to say like that
IN summary … norm is f789ed.
Which raises the question – if you are beyond f789ed… does it make sense to just keep on Rat Juicing till you end your life – what’s the point of living knowing you have stooopidly f789ed yourself
Copy/paste from TAE .
Copied from zzz111 commenting in ZH. Thought it might be of some interest?
I”m writing this because I realize that no one else seems to understand it. Someone asked JM why athletes have more problems and she answered that it’s because they use more oxygen. (The graphene oxide researcher said that the graphene moves faster through the bloodstream and t slices the endothelial cells.) Athletes use more oxygen but that doesn’t quite explain it. To me it has been obvious it’s because of more ribosomes. Bodybuilders have a lot of ribosomes because they produce a lot of proteins, so the injected mRNA will more easily find a ribosome and get translated into spike protein. Aerobic athletes also use their muscles a lot and have more muscle breakdown, muscle regeneration, and more ribosomes on the endoplasmic reticulum. So mRNA injected people, it’s probably healthier for them to exercise less or not at all.
Or maybe stick to gardening plus exercise in line with UK NHS advice. Last time I looked, I think the recommendation was half an hour of moderate exercise three times a week, e.g. walking (N.B. cycling or running might be too vigorous.)
lucky them
“In line with the reform agendas of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the (Bangaladesh) National Board of Revenue has initiated programmes aimed at modernising and streamlining the tax system … the IMF noted the revenue agendas after recently approving a $4.7 billion credit package to Bangladesh … ” To be loaned to the nation in installments over some years
tbsnews.net/bangladesh/imf-call-nbr-plans-big-modern-tax-system-582954
meanwhile, incalcitrant
“Pakistan and the International Monetary Fund have agreed to continue talks on a deal, delaying the disbursement of $1.1 billion in funding critical to keeping the South Asian economy afloat.”
tbsnews.net/world/global-economy/pakistan-imf-agree-more-talks-delaying-bailout-582970
and down at the tip of India
“A spokesperson for the IMF yesterday (Feb10) pointed out that the assurances received thus far are inadequate for the island nation to gain access to the much-awaited relief, which is imperative to pull the economy out from the ongoing crisis.
“As soon as adequate assurances are obtained and remaining requirements are met, including by the Sri Lankan authorities, the EFF arrangement for Sri Lanka can be presented to the IMF’s Executive Board for approval,” the spokesperson said.”
dailymirror.lk/breaking_news/Financing-assurances-obtained-by-SL-thus-far-inadequate-to-proceed-with-EFF-IMF/108-253968
where do they find these dudes’ jobs? Global Green Growth Institute ffs
I wonder what he’s paid? not to count all the first class swanning around and who picks up the tab for that …
“Former Secretary General of the United Nations and Chairman of the Global Green Growth Institute (GGGI) Ban Ki-moon arrived in Sri Lanka early today (Feb 06) on an official visit.”
colombopage.com/archive_23A/Feb06_1675660767CH.php
There are no “morals” in nature. These are concepts that privileged societies create for themselves.
The church is most at fault for this population trap. (and they know it)
As Gail has predicted in recent years, South Africa is looking close to collapse, with electricity unavailable about half the time:
https://thepostmillennial.com/south-africa-in-national-state-of-disaster-following-collapse-of-power-grid
We got burned celebrating the imminent collapse of Shrieking Lanka … I will not count my chickens till South Africa goes Mad Max.
WWI was to put down Germany, WWII was to put down Germany, now half of WWIII is to put down Germany. How can the Germans be this stupid?
My friend reported a faulty gas meter at his home to the natural gas distribution company. They should come within 48 hours. It is the 3rd day and no one has come yet.
Imagine you are producing energy at home and your system is broken: no one will come, despite you pay him/her.
The ageing populations facing higher and higher complexity collapse…
We had a gas leak too! We called the gas company immediately and they came over to test where it was from and since it was from the end of the meter to the house, we were responsible…they shut it off and tagged it.
We had to find a certified repairman and pay for the fix and since they shut it off he was the only person that could turn it on again. The gas company then had to come again and text for leaks.
So, if I shut the gas from the outside off myself with a simple wrench, I would have avoided the red tape and turn it back on myself the repairman said.
Thank goodness I am at the edge of civilization.
Yes, drb, to be somehow on the fringe seems to be preferable.
Heating with accessible wood in a traditional Russian masonry stove would seem ideal.
It is indeed the best combination I have come up with.
Who says Stone Age living can’t keep the heat on?
Gotta work out better lighting system though.
Lighting is absolutely the easiest problem to solve with photovoltaic because of LED lightbulbs. 100 watts lights up a structure like Vegas.
A 12v $120 battery from walmart, a $100 mr power charge controller, a $20 150w/300w inverter from ebay, and a 300 watt panel will do that. Buy the biggest battery thats cheapest. Just dont try to run anything but those led lights. Take it easy and that battery will last a long time especially on cloudy days. Keep it cool but not freezing. Its life will probably exceed 10 years if you take it easy with the lights. 15 watts of LED is enough for all utility purposes. You can bypass the inverter and run DC lighting but IMO its easier to just run AC. Wire eats power at low volts.
Assuming the orb is still radiating to the surface of course. If it isnt… Things are going to get real cold. There are limits.
Thank you for that.
I understand “ modern techniques” for lighting.
I am thinking a bit longer term and harder conditions.
I have kerosene lanterns but I think candles and tallow stone lamps have a future.
“I think candles and tallow stone lamps have a future.”
Probably going to let the dogs have some meat if it goes there. Is there any better way to go? I like being useful.
Since Ukraine is the leader of democracy in the world it is time for a US draft to send one million Americans to fight for freedom in Ukraine. A draft from age 20 to 60 both male and female. We stand with Ukraine. Right????
Is it time for the US to person up?
Ed you are going to have to do better than that!
Heres a episode of “servant of the people” to inspire you. Its in Russian
Zelenskys native tongue. Just mute that offensive noise and use the subtitles.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iBuCxvetzzDw/
Consider me your coach. Here is Victoria Nuland talking about Nordstream.
The very essence of inspiration.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/eWFSOIUy2hKU/
I know you can do it. I know you can learn to love big brother but we need to see some real progress not superficial gesturing my friend. Progress is going to require you commit fully and completely to big brother. There must not be even a shadow left if you are to reach your potential.
Ed I forgot to instruct you how to use the material. Im afraid I am not the best coach.
Listen to that video of Nuland stating that Nordstream will cease “one way or another” at least three times a day. At the same time you must know that any narrative that the USA destroyed Nordstream to be “complete and utter fiction”!
Who knows? Perhaps putin sympathizers made that video. It doesnt matter. Whats important is you understand that any narrative that the USA destroyed Nordstream is complete and utter fiction with every fiber of your being at the same time you watch the video.
When you can do that you will become something. You will have substance not just be repeating words. You will be sane. It is not easy to be sane. It is a great accomplishment. I know you can do it. Most importantly your new beginning will have occurred. You will have learned to love big brother
Doublespeak?
Newspeak and double-think, my dear.
A million Americans could be drafted but there isn’t enough working military equipment and ammunition for them to do anything.
America can’t fight wars. It’s all bluff. The industrial base is gone.
Sanctions, financial manipulation, poisoning, fomenting revolt, sabotage and assassination are the only real weapons left to the West.
Quite a lot to be getting on with.
Americans use drones now. They test aspirant operators for sociopathy and those scoring highly, usually young men, run the drones state-side.
As the US enters collapse half the world will cheer. The US is an abomination with its 5% of global population consuming 30% or more of the world’s resources. Fat as pigs most of them.
The Ukraine is run by the same mob of people who run the US. I won’t say who they are but many of them live in a country bordered by Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Jordan.
This country has many of its folk in the US and determines US foreign policy and where the US military goes They also determine what is truth and what isn’t and this is fed to 300m odd stupid Americans who lap it up.
The founding fathers never intended the US to be in the remote wars it finds itself. But such is the thirst for resources to feed the US pigs they go anywhere and everywhere with their military sticks to vacuum up wealth into their swollen bellies.
The final collapse of the US will bring joy worldwide when it comes.
All you need to do is convince an experienced gamer that killing MORE-ONS is desirable and that they can get paid to do it… and they will be more than happy to operate the drones.
I don’t mind moonlighting ..I would feel satisfied performing that job
but I have no gaming experience
Yes. A friend flew observation planes behind reaper drones, flown by trainee Israeli drone pilots at Ft. Huachuca AFB in southern Arizona. IDF were the US’ main clients. So yes, those of a certain cultural/religious orientation that shall always be unnamed, in the shadows, and hidden by layers of subterfuge, are primarily force behind what is happening, John 8:44.
@Ed
How about Women are spoils of War. Lol. That’s what used to be done. Captured and made wives.
I will be in the draftee line … right behind Hunter Biden!
There’s a reason they did away with the draft after Vietnam. You can’t have a citizen army when most would refuse to fight. Now with a mercenary force it’s very easy for the neocons to do their endless wars.
Rep Nancy Mace openly admits that she is severely vaccine injured & proceeds to rain fire on anyone who suppressed medical professionals that questioned the #COVID19 #Vaccines
https://www.bitchute.com/video/uqZKGVrriSlE/
Thanks for the link. If more people were allowed to connect the dots in the beginning without being censored we might not be in the situation where people are being harmed for profit. Instead it is still full steam ahead vaccinating babies for Covid which they have a zero or as near zero chance of dying from the Wuhan Lab outbreak.
Yeah, I love all the con.spiracy theory BS which we are now finding out was all true except the US Gov’t along with its agencies silenced expert and professional opinion in the medical field who said these shots were suspect from the start.
In one of the videos Tim pointed us to the speaker outlines the laws, contracts, regulations around the substance that has been injected.It is not a vaccine, it is not a pharmaceutical, its process of manufacture is unregulated. It is in fact a military counter measure deployed by the US military. It is a substance made under contract for the US military. Not a drug, not a vaccine, not regulated by the FDA, the CDC, the WHO.
Military counter measure.
thank you.
Her presentation is good, accurate and well-documented: but I’m afraid this will prove to be nothing but ‘controlled revelation’, just like the faked truth-seeking, free speech, Musk, intended to give the impression that at last the truth is coming out, and something will be done.
She is being allowed to say these things.
The narrative that the evil CDC, Twitter, Pfizer, FB, even the DoD, are responsible for all harms caused etc, is just a smoke screen for the real players, who will remain incognito and immune from prosecution, or even mention.
Meanwhile, the genetic drugs juggernaut and the imposition of digital totalitarianism will roll on unimpeded.
Possibly some token scapegoats (preferably neither Jewish, rich, nor of any great importance) will be punished, and we will be informed that minor flaws in the miraculous technologies will be addressed, making the even more miraculous, and the injured compensated…..
I’d rather see Pelosi get wrecked.. how happy I would be
Athena said she has good news but she humors me, she has an interest in war, no?
Until then I’m in doom mode, but I’m wondering about if food scarcity leads to mayhem(FE rof)
I seem to remember in Irish potato famine people died slowly in their huts.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190319-what-happens-when-the-food-runs-out
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-deadliest-famines-ever.html
I guess No longer an option :
A China 1 child policy halves the population in a generation or 2
The first link says:
Puzzles me how long this kind of society will “progress”
english.news.cn/20230123/8b139ff8dff74686a9dc1518bb30fbb0/202301238b139ff8dff74686a9dc1518bb30fbb0_20230123c96efaf431964d0f8dc5782594b8d1d5.jpg
I keep an eye out for analysis of how the womenless cohort is impacting social structures and values and for perhaps a decade have been surprised at the dearth of articles
This pic is from Xinhua last month showing a rural family Lunar New Year feast
“Without Subsidies, How Many People Will Buy An EV? Can the Power Grid Handle a Wave of New Electric Vehicles?”
https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/without-subsidies-how-many-people-will-buy-ev
This seems to be a Mish Shedlock article, reposted on Zerohedge, that reports on two different articles. One in a WSJ article saying that EV sales dropped by 13.2% in Germany (comparing January 2023 to January 2022), after subsidies disappeared.
The other article quoted is “Can the Power Grid Handle the Electric Vehicles?” It seems to be about the California situation, in which there isn’t enough electricity for demand without EVs, so how will it keep up with more EVs? It is from the WSJ, also.
According to it:
This quote points to a lack of transmission capability. I very much agree. In fact, the transmission hurdle is a huge one, in terms of time (permitting) and expenses.
I think that the first point about “planned capacity” is wishful thinking. Intermittent renewables don’t really add much capacity. They system needs fossil fuels or nuclear, to be sure that there is adequate electricity, when it is needed. California partly depends on imported electricity from out of state (Washington State, particularly). This tends to be hydro-electricity, if it is available. But California is going to need more electricity generation in total, especially if/when the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plants are taken off line. One time line has one of these Nuclear plants stopping in 2024 and the other in 2025.
Tesla sales dropped to zero in hong kong when they removed the subsidies…
Someone (PR Team?) later forced HK to reinstate them….
An EV is four times more efficient so that was huge incentive for investors.; but is misleading because you must produce the battery. Below comment was 300 barrels oil to produce a battery pack. But there’s usage too. From a few yrs ago:
https://poweringcalifornia.com/oil-gas-investor-batteries-cannot-save-the-grid-or-the-planet/
$200,000 worth of Tesla batteries, which collectively weigh over 20,000 pounds, are needed to store the energy equivalent of one barrel of oil. A barrel of oil, meanwhile, weighs 300 pounds and can be stored in a $20 tank. Those are the realities of today’s lithium batteries. Even a 200% improvement in under lying battery economics and technology won’t close such a gap.
An EV is four times more efficient so that was huge incentive for investors.; but is misleading because you must produce the battery.
Not really because you also have to produce and transmit the electricity.
It’s always more efficient to have your energy source (fossil fuels) on board the vehicle.
It’s called from well to wheel which takes electricity production/transmission into account.
Toyota Camry at 0.28 km/MJ.
Tesla at 1.14 km/MJ.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me
But it’s only if you paid zero for the battery.
it can’t be true that its more efficient to burn fuel in a power station then transmit it to a charger then into a car rather then just burning fuel in the car.
It would make sense if gasoline engines are grossly inefficient. I haven’t looked into it, but it seems entirely plausible to me that most of the energy is not usefully extracted.
The loss in the electric generator is not accounted for. Power plants convert about 30% of the thermal energy to electric energy.
Tesla at 1.14 km/MJ is really 0.34 km/MJ.
Compare to a Toyota Prius and gas wins.
That’s in the formula too:
The H-System Combined Cycle Generator from General Electric is 60% efficient in turning natural gas into electricity.
(Seems generous but a Camry is too)
I guess there’s a reason Tesla is worth it’s peers combined.
So investors get suckered into EVs hoping that battery tech makes an incredulous leap?
It’s possible in kulms next level for higher IQs but darn Chucky & his 200.
The electric generation plant is not magic remember those big cooling towers?
where are you PeteEV????? Stop hiding from us
Meanwhile — here we are over the Pacific in a flight that is 80% empty… not too many re tard ed f789wits in masks.
On the intelligence of humans…
When faced with a decline energy … they propose a wide range of new energy sources claiming many of them are clean and will provide unlimited power…
And they think that would be a good thing.
DUH.
This actually makes a valid point. The CofE is the established church in Britain, and thus an arm of the state, and it is also a global communion – and it can either prioritise the global communion, and what suits people abroad, or it can fall into line with state policy, but it apparently cannot do both.
If the CofE chooses to prioritise the global communion, then it is free to do that, and there is a simple solution, which is the disestablishment of the CofE. No one is forcing them to be an arm of the modern British state, and if their priority is to be something else, then we can all respect that, as long as they stay within the law.
It clearly is time for the state to be the state, and for the CofE to get a new name like ‘Global Communion’ or something. Disestablishment is long overdue. The CofE likely overestimates the value that the rest of us put on its establishment if it thinks that this situation can go on.
It is time to kick them out of the state apparatus?
https://humanists.uk/2023/02/10/disestablishment-an-answer-to-the-church-of-englands-prayers/
Disestablishment: an answer to the Church of England’s prayers?
That the Church of England should find itself under increasing scrutiny from senior MPs and the public over its stance on same-sex couples highlights one of the main contradictions of it being an established church – that is to say, an organ of the state, like HMRC or Ofsted.
The dilemma is this: if the state has a duty to uphold equality for all its citizens, how can one of its arms continue to vocally preach, and openly practise, the exact opposite?
It was this issue which the Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, and Humanists UK patron Sandi Toksvig sat down to discuss over tea some weeks back, with no clear resolution.
And unfortunately for the Church, the problem has anything but quietened down, with many MPs now agitating for Parliament to step in and make the necessary changes to the Church’s internal rules themselves, in the name of LGBT equality (not something that non-state churches have to worry about).
The pressure has grown so great that the Archbishop was reported as telling a group of MPs that he ‘would rather see C of E disestablished than split over same-sex marriage’.
A secular state seeking equality for all is something we at Humanists UK have long advocated for. We hope that more people inside the Church will recognise the benefits of constitutional reform of this sort has for them, too….. (more is said)
Many churches have struggled with this.
The branch of Lutheran that I belong to (ELCA) has no problem with gay members and gay clergy.
I know that Methodists around the world have been struggling with the issue. This is how Wikipedia describes their situation/solution:
The article then goes into the situation in different parts of the world. I expect the situation is that way most denominations: practices vary, depending on the local situation.
If the church is simply the Church of England, I suppose it should represent what the people in England think is right for the people in England.
I think that people should be aware that energy supplies are tied in with all of these discussions. If there is very little energy, then there will be firm division in roles. The vast majority of women will end up uneducated. Their main role will be in the home, and in helping raise food, cook food, and care for home/family.
It is only as more energy is available that it makes sense for more women to be educated. Not every woman needs to be a mother. In fact, women don’t need to give birth to very many children, if most of them live to maturity.
Now we are on the downside of the energy slope. Many men are struggling with low incomes, ADHD, and depression. Women don’t find them very marriageable. Many women have good incomes. They look for other women to form a household with. They will perhaps have a child or two to raise using artificial insemination.
Times change. After the collapse, the world will likely become very conservative again.
Non sarcastic question: regarding women, educated in what?
What really requires a “college” education? 4% of US graduates are engineers and of those engineers, approx 25% are women and of that percentage a large number stop being engineers.
Do plumbers, electricians, carpenters, general laborers need a college degree? Can a woman fix your pipes or replace a simple electrical switch? There are exceptions, but most cannot.
Is raising a child such a “dumb” job? How many children are raised well? Is maintaining one’s health during pregnancy such a dumb job?
There is a flip side to women rejecting men; if I am good, healthy, intelligent, reasonably good looking, a woman better bring a lot to the table or next. She better be young, or next, and there will be a good prenup or next. Life is not easy, men run the gauntlet to prove themselves.
It is easier for two than one, one roof, a shared car, a shared life. Far from perfect, but then perfection is the enemy of good enough.
If two women shack up, which one has the child, which one does the boring job of bringing home the bacon?
Dennis L.
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Dennis, you are right about education and let me answer to your last question with an example which is me.
My daughter was conceived with a couple of women. The one who carried the child was the one who could do so because the other one could not biologically. Both work and “bring home the bacon” like most couples today. This is a situation that is not easy to conceive for some people, especially the elderly. There are many similar cases, with their particularities.
You have to laugh. In the meantime, much of the global Anglican communion is organising to kick out the CofE anyway.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/02/09/church-england-ostracised-backs-blessings-gay-couples/
> Church of England ostracised after it backs blessings for gay couples
Leading Anglican body warns that the historic vote has ‘triggered a widespread loss of confidence’ in Justin Welby
The Church of England is to be ostracised by the body that claims to represent the majority of Anglicans after it backed blessings for gay couples.
For the first time in its history, General Synod, the Church of England’s legislative body, voted on Thursday for vicars to be allowed to give same-sex couples, including those in civil marriages, prayers of blessing.
The Archbishop of Canterbury heralded the vote as “a new beginning”.
However, with gay church marriages still banned and the blessings debate exposing wide rifts between liberals, conservatives and moderates in the Church, the Archbishop of York admitted that “we are divided on this as a church and those divisions run deep”.
On Thursday night, the Global South Fellowship of Anglican Churches (GSFA), which claims to represent 75 per cent of Anglicans worldwide, warned the result had “triggered a widespread loss of confidence” in Justin Welby, who as Archbishop of Canterbury is the worldwide Anglican Communion’s spiritual leader.
It is understood that the Church of England disputes the number of Anglicans the GSFA represents.
On Monday, 12 of the 42 global Anglican provinces will meet to “take decisive steps towards re-setting the Anglican Communion”, according to GSFA. It is understood that these steps will include official advice for churches to split and survive without CofE funds, potentially causing a schism in the 156-year-old Communion.
While Orthodox churches “are not leaving”, they now “must recognise that the Church of England has now joined those provinces with which communion is impaired”, the GSFA said.
Loss of confidence in Justin Welby
The Revd Paul Eddy, of the GSFA, said: “There is now a widespread loss of confidence in his [Welby’s] leadership within the Communion.
“On Monday, the Global South primates meet to agree a detailed response and to fast-forward proposals to ‘reset’ the Communion, creating new foundations for fellowship, including how the Communion handles provinces who act unilaterally on matters of biblical faith and order.
“Morally, Archbishop Welby and the bishops have voted to leave an orthodox, biblical Anglican Communion. The GSFA deeply regrets this.”
A positive note:
Space X lit off 31 of 33 engines for seven seconds. Seven seconds you say? Yes, all that energy melts concrete, steel, etc, generally a rocket is up, up and away.
We will put a thousand satellites into space, AI and send them prospecting, nudge the good stuff to a space refinery, send it by the sun and voila, instant solution to our mineral issues with almost zero pollution.
AI is growing, it will get better. LIfe is getting better for many, dumb decisions are still made, but no WWIII yet.
Biology is rare, someone/thing/being is tinkering with the universe, he/she/it is not about to have the experiment go off the rails, “they will think of something.”
Dennis L.
Through the 80s the Space Studies Institute held annual conferences on space manufacturing. I am a big fan. Yes, AI will help allowing fewer humans needing support in space.
We will put a thousand satellites into space, AI and send them prospecting, nudge the good stuff to a space refinery, send it by the sun and voila, instant solution to our mineral issues with almost zero pollution.
No we won’t.
Withnail, you are right only in the sense we will not launch them from the surface of the Earth. They will be make in orbit and on the surface of the moon.
We do not need to launch huge masses from the surface of the Earth. We will bootstrap a full high tech economy with robots and AI and telepresence. Only a handful of high performance chips will be needed from Earth.
Dennis, you may enjoy
2081: A Hopeful View of the Human Future (Touchstone Books (Paperback))
by Gerard O’Neill | May 1, 1982
Single mothers don’t do so well. When Energy downslope happens.
So young women in their late teens and 20’s would have to look for older men who are established enough to have a viable income to have a family with.
Sounds good in theory, until those hottie AI robots arrive en masse, which they will.
https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2015%2F04%2Fex-machina-2000.jpg
I reckon they will be as expensive as a cybernetic arm, a max specced Tesla + that McMansion you can’t afford anymore.
It’ll be intractable to convince the generic hyper MOARons to live in a tiny crib furnished with a robot broad charging in the attic and nothing much else. Well, perhaps a sack of oats and crusty bicycle.
🦾🦿
anna can show them how to make $$$
Unlike the Catholic church where to be a priest you must have a thing for choir boys
Happily, The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) is not a government organization. Some Quaker meetings will marry homosexual couples and some will not. The idea of a religion that place government before G_d is mind bending. Even the idea that government has any place in a meetinghouse or a church is mind bending to a Quaker.
One of our families ancestors was a Quaker.He was crushed to death with stones by the puritan theocracy because he wouldn’t renounce his faith. Theocracies are just another example of absolute power corrupting.
I appreciate Quakers relatively speaking but all religious societies are governing bodies. Quakers are like the good cops of Western religion just like taoists are the good cops of Eastern religion. Highest frequency that paradigmatic dogma has to offer.
And then there’s the open space of pure Reason, formerly known as animism.
Ruins of 1,600-year-old iron working site — filled with tools — uncovered in China
Archaeologists began excavating the Guantian metalworking site in Zhujiaping years ago, but the full scale of the production site has only recently become clear, the Hunan Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology said in a Monday, Feb. 6, news release.
At the massive site, archaeologists uncovered over 250 ash pits, remnants of furnaces and storage pits. The furnaces were underground or partially underground structures with a variety of shapes, some rectangular, some spoon-shaped. Most were filled with large stones covered in burn marks and small charcoal chips.
The largest furnace was just over 8 feet long, the release said. Another furnace still had an iron kettle on it. Photos show the ruins. Fragments of copper and iron characteristic of in-process metal production indicated the site’s purpose.
Over 120 ash ditches were also found at the metalworking site, archaeologists said. They were filled with discarded charcoal and other fragments, unwanted byproducts of metalworking production.
Among the furnaces and ditches, researchers uncovered the ruins of 17 house sites. Some of these structures were near several furnaces, indicating they were likely workshops. Doorway remnants, tile fragments and broken pottery was also unearthed near the house structures.
The iron and copper production site was used during the Han and Jin dynasties, the release said. The Han dynasty ruled China from 206 B.C. to 220 A.D., according to Britannica. The Jin, or Chin, dynasty followed soon after, ruling the region from around 265 to 420 A.D., per Britannica. The Guantian site is the largest known iron-working site in southern China from this time period.
the news release from the Hunan Provincial Institute of Cultural Relics and Archaeology
Kulm …and Withnall, how about them Apple’s
China has had metalworking for a very long time.
When my husband and I visited Wuhan, China, in 2011, we heard reproductions of ancient bronze bells that had been made about 2000 years earlier. (These were bronze, not iron.)
The Smithsonian has an article about them. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/bronze-age-chinese-bells-tells-story-ancient-innovation-180964459/
The bells are tuned to the scale that we in the West are used to. We heard “Ode to Joy” played on them.
Kulm …and Withnall, how about them Apple’s
The site was abandoned like all other ancient iron working sites when it ran out of fuel.
Maybe …maybe not….hard to determine…
That’s what always happens. Always.
Oh I can think of a few other possibilities.
Good news – for the vaxxed and Shad Fans
https://palexander.substack.com/p/dr-peter-mccullough-shares-disturbing
‘This Is Disturbing’: The Shots Could Be Weakening Immune Systems for Generations
@P_McCulloughMD: “People who take the vaccines are not the same. And young people who may be having children in the future may pass down some of this weakened immunity to their children.”
Not for all, biology is adaptive, some adapt, we are here because we adapt. Again, someone is tinkering with the universe, the problem will be solved, they will think of something.
Dennis L
A small cut just under your balls
Will keep you from visiting Niagara Falls
Regards, Vladimir Putin
1600 athletes tested – all vaxxed — 2.3% had heart damage https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/myocarditis-in-pilots
Yay, not enough, we need more. In fact we need to see a few collapse during the Super Bowl.
Did you know the line at the end is at least 65% coke?
Also, the video says that of those 2.3% of athletes with myocarditis, half had no symptoms, but all of them might succumb to what is now “Sudden Adult Death Syndrome.”
The interview is basically about pilots and what is being done. One group of pilots is suing the Federal Aviation Administration, saying that they should have taken a pro-active stance to stop the vaccine mandates, since they are charged with maintaining airline safety.
Dr. Stillwagon mentions that airlines are now rehiring (some of the) pilots, stewards, and stewardesses who were laid off for refusing the vaccinations.
Alarming Antibody Evasion Properties of Rising SARS-CoV-2 BQ and XBB Subvariants
“considering the extensive herd immunity built up in the population over the last three years from infections and vaccinations.”
From Geert: “This publication illustrates once more the immunological illiteracy of mutation spotters who continue to make people believe that the population has established herd immunity! They are confusing population-level immune PRESSURE (‘herd immune pressure’) on the virus with herd immunity! No population establishing herd immunity breeds immune escape variants that dominantly (co-)circulate! An immune escape pandemic can never generate herd immunity and vice versa! This is a contradictio in terminis! Their immunological ignorance is an insult to the science.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36580913/
It seems like this should be obvious. IgG3 vs IgG4 antibodies.
I know – let’s just do this
Merck’s oral antiviral pill for COVID-19, molnupiravir — marketed under the name Lagevrio — may be fueling the development of new and potentially deadly variants of COVID-19, according to the authors of a new preprint study. “It’s not a surprise that molnupiravir could cause [the] escape of mutant virus strains or substrains into the population,” said Dr. Harvey Risch. “Its main function is to get the virus to mutate faster.”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/merck-covid-pill-virus-mutations/
norm – what do you make of all of this — are you woke?
This book provides a thought-provoking analysis of the complex interactions between the virus and the host immune system that underlie the evolution of the COVID-19 pandemic. The author delves into the impact of mass vaccination on individual and global health, and explains how powerful organizations, institutions, and industries lacking an understanding of this complex environment have turned a natural viral pandemic into one of disastrous immune escape.
The author’s predictions are compelling and indicate that Nature will correct this mistake, but at a substantial cost to human lives in highly vaccinated countries. The book also highlights the ignorance and arrogance of key opinion leaders and decision-makers in the field as the main reason for this colossal blunder. It is a must-read for anyone interested in understanding the intricacies of the pandemic and the impact of mass vaccination on society. The author’s unique approach and reliance on basic scientific principles make this a valuable addition to the literature on the subject.
https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/vss-scientific-updates-during-pandemic-397
Wrong: lacking an understanding of this complex environment
This article is “The Inescapable Immune Escape Pandemic”
By Geert Vanden Bossche
He has a book out by this name.