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It is now popular to talk about leaving fossil fuels to prevent climate change. Pretty much the same result occurs if we run short of fossil fuels: We lose fossil fuels, but it is because we cannot extract them. Practically no one tells us about the extent to which the current system depends upon fossil fuels, however.
The economy is extraordinarily dependent on fossil fuels. If there are not enough fossil fuels to go around, there is likely to be fighting over what is available. Some countries are likely to get far more than their fair share, while the rest of the world’s population will be left with very little or no fossil fuels.
If losing fossil fuels completely, or nearly completely, is a risk for some of the world’s population, it might be useful to think through some of the things that go wrong. The following are some of my ideas about things that change, mostly for the worse, in a fossil fuel-deprived economy.
[1] Banks, as we know them, will likely fail.
Before banks fail in areas with virtually no fossil fuels, my guess is that we will generally see hyperinflation. Governments will greatly increase the money supply in a vain attempt to get people to believe that more goods and services are being produced. This approach will be used because people equate having more money with the ability to buy more goods and services. Unfortunately, without fossil fuels it will be very difficult to produce very many goods.
More money will simply provide more inflation because it takes physical resources, including the proper types of energy, to operate machinery of all kinds to make goods. Creating services also requires fossil fuel energy, but generally, to a lesser extent than creating goods. For example, the pair of scissors used in cutting hair is made using fossil fuel energy. The person cutting hair needs to be paid; his or her pay needs to be high enough to cover energy-related costs such as buying and cooking food to eat. The shop where hair cutting is operated will also need to pay for the fossil fuel energy required for heat and light, assuming such energy is even available.
Banks will fail because too large a share of debts cannot be repaid with interest. Part of the problem will be that while wages will rise, the prices of goods and services will rise even faster, making goods unaffordable. Another part of the problem is that service economies, such as those of the US and eurozone, will be disproportionately affected by a declining economy. In such an economy, people will get their hair cut less often. Instead, they will spend their money on essentials, including food, water, and cooking supplies. Service-providing businesses, such as hair salons and restaurants, will fail for lack of customers, leading to defaults on their debts.
[2] Today’s governments will fail.
With failing banks, today’s governments will also fail. Partly, they will fail because of attempts to bail out banks. Another problem will be declining tax revenue because fewer goods and services are produced. Pension programs will become increasingly difficult to fund. All these issues will lead to increasingly divisive politics. In some cases, central governments may dissolve, leaving states and other smaller units, such as today’s provinces, to continue on their own.
Intergovernmental organizations, such as the United Nations and NATO, will find their voices becoming less and less heeded before they fail. Getting sufficient funding from member states will become an increasing problem.
Dictatorships ruled by leaders who wield absolute power and aristocracies ruled by leaders with hereditary rights are the types of governments with the least energy requirements. These are likely to become more common without fossil fuels.
[3] Nearly all of today’s businesses will fail.
Fossil fuels are essential for all kinds of businesses. They are used in the extraction of raw materials and in the transportation of goods. We use fossil fuels to pave roads and to build nearly all of today’s buildings. Without fossil fuels, even simple repairs of existing infrastructure become impossible. Without adequate fossil fuels, international companies are especially at risk of breaking into smaller units. They will find it impossible to operate in parts of the world with virtually no fossil fuel supply.
Fossil fuels are even used in making solar panels, wind turbines, and replacement parts for electric vehicles. Talking about solar and wind as “renewables” is to a significant extent misleading. At best, they can be described as fossil fuel “extenders.” They might help a problem of a slightly low fossil fuel supply, but they are far from adequate substitutes.
[4] Grid electricity and the internet will disappear.
Fossil fuels are important for maintaining the electrical transmission system. For example, restoring downed power lines after storms requires fossil fuels. Hooking up solar panels or wind turbines to the electric grid requires fossil fuels. Home solar panel systems may operate until their inverters fail. Once their inverters fail, their usefulness will be greatly degraded. Fossil fuels are needed to manufacture new inverters.
Fossil fuels are also important for maintaining every part of the internet system. Furthermore, without grid electricity, it becomes impossible to use computers to connect to the internet.
[5] International trade will be scaled back greatly.
At this time of year, many of us remember the story of the three kings from the East coming to visit the baby Jesus with precious gifts. We also remember stories in the Bible of Paul traveling to distant countries. From these and many other examples, we know that international trade and travel can continue without fossil fuels.
The problem is that without fossil fuels, some parts of the world will have very little to offer in return for goods made with fossil fuels. Countries with fossil fuels will quickly figure out that government debt from countries without fossil fuels doesn’t really mean much when it comes to paying for goods and services. As a result, trade will be scaled back to match available exports. Exports of goods will likely be very limited for parts of the world operating without fossil fuels.
[6] Agriculture will become much less efficient.
Today’s agriculture has been made unbelievably efficient using large mechanical equipment, generally powered by diesel, together with a huge number of chemicals, including herbicides, insecticides, and fertilizers. In addition, fences and netting made with fossil fuels are used to keep out unwanted animal pests. In some cases, greenhouses are used to provide a controlled climate for plants. Using fossil fuels, specialized hybrid seeds are developed that emphasize characteristics that farmers consider desirable. All these “helps” will tend to disappear.
Without these helps, agriculture will become much less efficient. Figure 1 shows that even with the small cutback in fossil fuel use in 2020, the share of employment provided by agriculture rose.
Employment in agriculture is essential. These workers did not get laid off, even as workers in tourism and workers making fancy clothes lost their jobs, so agricultural jobs as a share of total employment rose.
[7] Future labor needs are likely to be disproportionately in the agricultural sector.
People need to eat. Even if the economy is operating in a very inefficient manner, people will need food. The share of people in agriculture (including hunting and gathering) can be expected to rise considerably.
Some people hope that a shift to the use of permaculture will solve the problem of the dependence of agriculture on fossil fuels. I see permaculture as mostly a fossil-fuel extender, rather than a solution for getting along without fossil fuels, because it assumes the use of many fossil fuel-based devices, such as modern fences and today’s tools. Also, at best, permaculture only partly solves the inefficiency problem because it requires a huge amount of hands-on labor.
Today, there is a wide divide between the share of employment in agriculture in the United States and in the same statistic for the UN group of least developed countries. Most of these countries are in sub-Saharan Africa. They use very little fossil fuels.
The US share of employment in agriculture has recently been about 1.7%. In the part of Europe using the Euro, the share of employment in agriculture has recently averaged about 3.0%. In either the US or Europe, it would take a huge change in employment to get to 70% in agricultural employment (as seen early in the 1990s for the UN least developed group), or even to 55% (as experienced recently by the same group).
[8] Home heating will become a luxury item available only to the wealthy.
Without fossil fuels, wood will come into high demand for its heat value. Wood will be needed for cooking food; it is very difficult to subsist on a diet of all raw foods. Wood will also be in demand for making charcoal, which in turn can be used to smelt some metals. With these demands on wood, deforestation is likely to become a major problem in many parts of the world. Wood in general will be quite expensive, given the considerable cost of harvesting and transporting it over long distances without the benefit of fossil fuels.
People living in sparsely populated wooded areas may be able to gather their own wood for home heating. For other people, home heating will likely become a luxury, affordable only by the very rich.
[9] Living alone will become a thing of the past.
Without enough heat, and with barely enough wood for cooking, people (and their animals) will have to huddle together more. Homes housing multiple generations, built over a place for keeping farm animals, may again become popular. It will be more efficient to cook for large groups than for one person at a time. People in cold areas will huddle together with each other in beds to keep warm. Or they will huddle together with their dogs, as in the saying, three dog night, meaning a night that is cold enough to need to have three dogs to keep a person warm.
Even in warm parts of the world, people will live together in groups, simply because maintaining a household for a single person will become impossibly expensive. Food and fuel for cooking will take up a huge share of a family’s income. There will be little left over for other expenses.
[10] Governments and their laws will shrink in importance. Instead, new traditions and new religions will play a greater role in keeping order.
Governments have made dozens of promises, but without a growing supply of fossil fuels (or an adequate substitute), they will not be able to keep them. Pensions will be gone. The ability of governments to enforce ownership laws will likely disappear. Without any good substitute for fossil fuels, mass disorder is a likely outcome.
People crave order. Without order, it is impossible to conduct business. We know from recent experience that “sustainability groups,” put together by people with a common interest in sustainability tend not to work well enough to provide order. They tend to fall apart as soon as obstacles arise.
What has seemed to work to provide order in the past is some combination of traditions and religions. With a changing world, both traditions and religions are likely to need to change. In the book, Communities that Abide, by Dmitry Orlov et al., the authors point out that having a strong (non-elected) leader, and a shared set of religious beliefs, helps keep a group together. In fact, it helps if the group is somewhat persecuted. Fighting for a common cause is part of what keeps the group together.
The Ten Commandments in the Bible are interpreted in a way that strongly suggests that they are rules for behavior within the group, not for behavior in general. For example, “Thou shalt not kill,” applies to other members of the group; wars against other groups were very much expected. In those wars, killing of members of another group was expected. This would seem to allow Israel’s killing of members of Hamas, today. Without enough fossil fuels to go around, fighting becomes more frequent.
Conclusion
In my opinion, the problem the world is facing today is like one that smaller economies have faced, over and over, in the past: The population has become too large for the economy’s resource base, which now includes fossil fuels. Today’s leaders reframe the problem as voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change in order to make the situation sound less frightening.
As I see the situation, the world needs to scale down its use of fossil fuels because, ultimately, the laws of physics determine selling prices for fossil fuels. We extract the inexpensive-to-produce fossil fuels first. The problem is that fossil fuel selling prices cannot rise arbitrarily high. Prices must be both:
- High enough for producers to make a profit, with funds left over for reinvestment and for adequate taxes for their governments.
- Low enough for consumers to afford to buy food and other consumer goods produced with these fossil fuels.
If we assume that all the fossil fuels that seem to be under the ground can really be extracted, climate change from burning them may indeed be a problem. But it is hard to see that they can really be extracted, given the affordability issue. Politicians will hold down prices to get voters to vote for them if nothing else.
Researchers have been working diligently to find solutions, but to date, their success has been poor. Every supposed solution requires significant use of fossil fuels. So, we need to think through what might happen if we are forced to get along without fossil fuels and without an adequate substitute.
(ALBAWABA + IL FATTO + MSN)
“A well-known real estate company, Harei Zahav, recognized for constructing hundreds of illegal settlements in the West Bank, is now promoting the establishment of beach houses along the Gaza coasts following the end of the latest Israeli aggression on the besieged strip.”
Foundations of the houses will probably contain some dead bodies or parts of bodies of children, women and men inside the rubbles, in the underground.
So that screams could be perceived in the nights, during nightmares….
https://www.albawaba.com/news/harei-zahav-now-promoting-beach-houses-gaza-1545535
https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/in-edicola/articoli/2023/12/18/prendi-la-tua-villetta-a-gaza-lazienda-israeliana-fa-sognare/7386425/
https://www.msn.com/it-it/notizie/mondo/gaza-compra-la-tua-villetta-qui-azienda-israeliana-annuncia-la-costruzione-di-nuove-case-al-mare-tra-le-macerie-della-striscia/ar-AA1lH8ok
We knew that was coming, even before the blood has dried. Anything for money.
SAVE THE PLANET!!!!! We must cut fossil fuels NOW or ELSE!!!!! Total hypocrisy.
“Climate Groups Sue The UK Over North Sea Oil Project”
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Climate-Groups-Sue-the-UK-Over-North-Sea-Oil-Project.html
First world problems… got give the liberal trustfunders something to do!
“Climate Groups Sue The UK Over North Sea Oil Project”
The new project for which a licence has been issued but will almost certainly never happen because of the extreme difficulty of exploiting this small deposit?
Smoke and mirrors.
Good point!
As the old saying goes, Be careful what you wish for….
Unfortunately, these folks were lead to believe BAU lifestyle can be had with substitutes away from burning and releases greenhouse gasses.
If they actually knew the consequences….
Primitive Living in a thousands-years-old cave in the mountains of Afghanistan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_C77wdmrerA&pp=ygUQUHJpbWl0aXZlIGxpdmluZw%3D%3D
this video I have filmed one day life of a family living in a buddhist cave in Bamyan province of Afghanistan in a rural village. the family cooking traditional food.
Wonder how many of these folks would be smiling like in the video…
What no take out?
Doctors really are sick bas tards https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-big-pharma-sold-depression-and-1c0
Yeah, they tried that trick on me and it didn’t work. They try to convince people they are depressed so as to get them hooked on psychotropic drugs which are difficult to get off and after awhile they have a negative effect. The medical industry has become untrustworthy i.e. a sham and a fraud.
Here I have applied a cold wet towel to the head of Hoolio … to help him with the heat
https://i.postimg.cc/5NXYDdB7/HOOLIO.jpg
I wanted him to come upstairs but he preferred to stay downstairs where it is cool… so I used an age old trick that the Elders and their minions use on the cockroaches…
I paid him. Not with money of course — with a piece of cheese…. his reluctance turned to excited compliance as he came chasing me up the stairs…. and now he is here with the cold towel… having feasted.
It’s no different with a human — pay them — they will do almost anything.
They will even commit mass murder. As doctors and nurses have been doing throughout Covid… the nurses are not even highly paid yet they do it …
It’s as if I offered Hoolio a shoelace as an enticement .. well nurses are stooopid Hoolio is not…
The doctors are seeing the results of their poisoning of their patients on a daily basis as they report with endless severe vax injuries… do they say anything? Nope. Money is at stake. And humans love money — cuz they can buy stuff.. and vacations and homes and cars — they can even use it to buy cheese.
(Mike Whitney)
This is the only article I’ve seen around touching the issue that only Gail and few other persons arised.
Demographics.
It is very interesting.
“The War in Gaza: It’s Not About Hamas. It’s About Demographics”
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-war-in-gaza-its-not-about-hamas-its-about-demographics/
If they were concerned about being overrun by non JOOS… then they would not have injected their folks with the Rat Juice
Neo-con Zionists like Netanyahu have a siege mentality.
https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2008/04/16/did-israel-benefit-from-the-9/11-attacks
April 16th 2008
From Haaretz:
The Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
“We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq,” Ma’ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events “swung American public opinion in our favor.”
Is this even true? Sure, American public opinion favours Israel, but this has always been the case. There was no sustained post-9/11 bump in the polls. And shouldn’t Mr Netanyahu be more concerned about how America’s reaction to the attacks has destabilised the region and distracted it from the moribund peace process?
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Not all Israelis are neo-con Zionists, of course.
Good find! There are way too many people for the area. Both Palestine and Israel have high birth rates. The area was already occupied before the Jews came.
The Truth About The Economy That The Mainstream Media Is Not Telling You
An absolutely outstanding article that was just posted on Schiff Gold analyzes how much a basket of groceries that Kevin bought in the 1990 movie “Home Alone” would cost today…
Kevin bought a basket full of groceries including a half-gallon of milk, orange juice, Wonder Bread, a Stouffer’s frozen turkey dinner, toilet paper, Snuggle dryer sheets, Tide liquid laundry detergent, plastic wrap, Kraft macaroni and cheese, and a bag of army men. He paid a grand total of $19.83 with a $1 off coupon for the orange juice.
In 2022, that same basket of groceries would have cost around $44.40 based on a shopping trip by a West Virginia mother. That’s a 123.9% increase. (Keep in mind prices vary somewhat depending on the store and location.)
This year, Kevin would have to fork out a whopping $72.28 for his provisions at a Chicago store. That’s another 62.8% increase in just one year. Since 1990, the price of Kevin’s groceries has gone up over 264%.
So how in the world can they possibly claim that inflation is “low”?
It is almost as if we are living in Bizarro World.
https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=6563
Looks like censorship has stopped – see the comments
https://www.facebook.com/100064622686484/posts/pfbid0WHvkjQd9kjd6qz52nud2PCeHwPkUWREwbiux1MBVrTensyLR2TMZhWjknE6YbKDHl/?mibextid=cr9u03
That’s cuz it no longer matters… the immune systems are baked
What’s with this set of comments? Was this post in an anti-VAX far-right MAGA Republican Facebook group? Imprison them!
No idea – it was picked up by my monitoring agents who were following Telegram and they alerted me
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Fast Eddy
just now
Two choices:
You are either a blind moron living in a clown world
OR
You do not want the truth
Choose
of course you can choose to ban me – which makes you are 10X moron
Go for 3 hahaha and continue wasting your time with your futile efforts at … at… I dunno .. going round in circles believing you are winning?
Doing the same thing over and over = insanity — or just plain dumb
Primitive Russian Monkey skank
Dames, go figure ’em?
Just be grateful that Gail is more forgiving than Sasha.
A bit odd that she’d remove it … hard to work out who – other than malone and kirsch — are working for the PR team
Do I see a trend below? Reply seems to be “non-human”. Skirting the questions that a human would have answered differently. In normal “human talk” even between engineers, we don’t talk about MBTF on Sony TVs….
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Dennis L. says:
Nonsense, we humans have been here for a long time and we shall continue to do so.
Lorraine has some good points and she is fortunate, the climate in not MN.
CTG says:
Dennis, you sincerely believe that if humans survived for the last 100,000 years, it can survive the next 100,000 years? What kind of logic is this? Please enlighten me on how you can even come out with this statement
Dennis L. says:
CTG,
Reply to your logic.
Logic is in part from the enlightenment, or “I think therefore I am.”
Reading a book by Lane, “Power, Sex Suicide.” It is about the mitochondria.
Quote from page 33, second paragraph.
“Some physicists… find a spiritual grandeur.. of the universe as the midwife of intelligence. Such insights into the innermost workings of nature are celebrated as a “‘window’ into the mind of God.” Of as I like to think of it, we “discover” the universe, we do not reason it out and from that form a narrative.
Your mileage may vary,
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CTG says:
All modern manmade systems require maintenance. Any small part that fail will bring down the whole system eventually. The more complex the system is, the more prone it is to failure
Dennis L. says:
CTG.
Please explain modern automobiles, e.g. Toyota. Compared to cars of my youth they are much more reliable.
Tires now can last 70K miles compared to 25K miles in the sixties.
TV repair business are out of business, my Sony flat screen dates to the late 1990’s I think,
Solid state is very reliable and the MTBF seems surprisingly long.
CTG says:
So your car needs no maintenance, oil change, etc? Any change you need is bot steady state anymore. It is not renewable anymore. Your replies certainly have characteristics of the AI that Postkey mentioned in the last few posts
Dennis L. says:
Reply to CTG below,
Sorry, did not make thoughts clearer. Modern cars still need oil changes, but points and plugs seem to last tens of thousands of miles. My Camry hybrid is a 2007 with 180K miles and runs great.
It is more complex than autos of old, but requires much less maintenance.
Some complex things work remarkably well. Starship will be an example, the Falcon X is very reliable compared to rockets of the 1960’s.
Politics is more complex and probably not better, not much engineering perhaps.
He does not seem to know the Laws of Thermodynamics, for example.
It’s just Dennis. He’s incredibly optimistic which some people are. No need to assume a more nefarious explanation.
It is not even optimism. It is called delusion.
Aren’t we all Delusistanis each living in our simulacrum?
test.
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Gilligan’s Island’s choice of archetypes / microcosm of humanity was genius.
As was this gem:
“Oh those poor people!” Galaxy Quest
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2Xe805MG4rA/WlVAJkmchWI/AAAAAAAB6GQ/hRO4VNPVdasp15fNDgxKnCD-RdJViwAyQCEwYBhgL/s1600/g19.jpg
I’d choose Mary Ann.
Neither, but the first thing they should have done after arriving on that island was to shoot Gilligan.
Would have ruined the ratings.
Dennis L.
norm – I thought no hospital? https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/enormous-amount-covid-around
Don’t forget, Kiwis point to relationships between random data and call it science in NZ.
“Oh no, Da sewage has long covid, because, because,… people aren’t rapid testing anymore, so we can’t tell, so let’s make up shit about it!
‘It looks like there is a relationship between hospitalisations and covid in sewage’ IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER FFS
um , but what other, more simpler reasons might there be??
Don’t think too hard.
How abouts this,…there is a normal seasonal increase in all bacterial and pathogen numbers in sewage treatment plants, due to increased metabolic activity, due to higher temperature; normal for this time of year.
“No bloody way, couldn’t be!
Perhaps some of the increased excess bacterial load in treatment ponds might simply have similar proteins to the target being tested for?
Since after all…
“We haven’t seen high levels of covid in sewage since January this year “
Yup true enough..“And we haven’t seen any KIWIs thinking since then either”
Oh heack, could it be it’s one day before Summer Solstice? …… PIN DROP
No no no no! NOOOO!
Notice muppets won’t talk about who’s getting the so called long covid,
Wouldn’t have any relationship with the individuals getting ‘injections’ by any chance? UUUURRRRP!
No, what we need is More juiced muppets in the muppet show, staring turbo cancer, died suddenly after boosting and most of all the medical Drs are profoundly at a loss and confused.
A post-extinction event? mRNA to write into DNA the code? To start human evolution again? As a task for a 10-year grant from the US government? Maybe as a plot for a science-fiction novel, but the actual research goal? This had stretched my credulity the first time I read about it, on the unconscious level. What got me thinking again about this and the “Darwinian Chemical Systems” was rewatching and re-reading recently this Bourla interview about how Pfizer got pulled into this mRNA “vaccine” business:
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/darwinian-system-with-covidian-jab
“Applesauce Pouches May Have Been Intentionally Contaminated With Lead: FDA”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/applesauce-pouches-may-have-been-intentionally-contaminated-lead-fda
Mass Demoralization …
This article includes a lot of strange assertions, about Moderna and about how things were planned out. Pfizer is just a marketer for this.
And it does appear that Bourla was strong armed into playing ball …
When the Elders issue an edict.. only a fool says no thanks
And I have quoted Dr. Martin (“Dr Martin Boots the Elite”, 2021.11.12) way back in December 2021 in my post “Going for Jugular”:
April 2020, Anthony Fauci sat in the President’s Oval Office and talked about how Moderna was going to be the mysterious savior of the world, despite the fact that Moderna had never produced a safe commercial product in its entire operating history.
What you don’t remember is that in 2010, it was the 10th anniversary of the funding that actually started Moderna. You don’t know what the funding that started Moderna is because nobody talks about it. The funding that started Moderna was the National Science Foundation grant called ‘Darwinian Chemical Systems’. https://psuvanguard.com/chemistry-grant-takes-aim-at-lifes-origins/
Darwinian Chemical Systems: In a post-extinction event we want to see if we can mRNA to write into DNA the code to start human evolution again. That’s the 10-year grant that started Moderna.
Darwinian Chemical Systems was to use RNA to write into the DNA of life. The 20-year funding record of the company that’s actually doing it proved that this is what happened.
https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/darwinian-system-with-covidian-jab
Who says the PR Team doesn’t have a sense of humour hahaha
Darwinian Chemical Systems hahaha
That is quite a substack article!
I am wondering how he was able to obtain all of this information …
That is quite possibly the best SS article ever
KKlimate Change… right norm
https://twitter.com/i/status/1736806100031483940
one young lad at my work who had numerous jabs has now got some form of prostate problems could be cancer he looks very worried i did warn him about the jabs and depopulation back in 2020 he did not believe me incidentally he is very into physical fitness maybe physical fitness is something to avoid when youre a young heavily jabbed male
We look forward to an update and hope the condition is terminal .. and turbo
I believe that young fit males who eat a high protein diet probably produce more spike protein per jab. If the body is in a better state for protein synthesis in general, it follows that cells should be able to produce spike proteins at a higher rate.
why did you get jabbed if you were warning him?
He said he had to or lose his job I think?
We can’t all be Fast Eddy.
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/12/18/266-the-future-we-didnt-order/
He goes from :
Delusion may sometimes be preferable to reality, but reality, when it returns, tends to have sharp edges. In short, I have a nagging feeling that, when Alice steps back Through the Looking-Glass, she’s going to find that somebody has stolen most of the furniture. I don’t know how much longer we can sustain the illusions of the moment, but my sense is that the factual is waiting in the wings.
To solve or to deny?
If there’s a theme to this discussion, it’s the gulf, not so much between the real and the imaginary, but between knowing something and being willing to accept it. After all, a retreat into fantasy usually results from an unwillingness to see the world as it is.
To:
One of these is to change the form of dense energy inputs to the system, moving from climate-harming fossil fuels to less harmful alternatives.
But the other potential solution is to slow the creation-disposal-replacement cycle itself.
A rational society would be addressing both of these possible solutions, not just one of them – we’d be looking at alternatives to fossil fuels, but we’d also be giving constructive thought to behavioural change.
He has clearly gone insane… mentally ill… he is in very deep delusion… it happens to some people – when faced with a hopeless situation — they look for a Messiah to deliver them from despair…
They grasp at renewable energy — or doomie prepping… god… they will believe anything regardless of how ridiculous it is … cuz accepting the truth… when it involves something as grim as extinction … leads them to a very bad place… a very sad place
It means their primitive monkey no longer gets to 4nicate and overpopulate… it means their sick impulses for more and more and more … can no longer be exercised… it means their vile disgusting progeny … will perish … Mr DNA gets very upset by that realization …
They immediately lose interest in everything — turn to drugs… booze… they stop working… they experience full-blown cafarde… what is the point of going on .. when there is no future…
Therefore they need to invent one – or better still turn to bbccnn and the authorities for an invented future… hopium…. cuz they are stoopid primitive wicked beasts.
Tim Morgan’s article has some interesting parts to it. But I think Tim is still deluded regarding the “worth” of the renewables. He gets to this later in the article, after the part you quote. Tim thinks in terms of what we think of as EROEI, and that is misleadingly helpful for renewables.
Regarding making goods last longer, I am not sure what can be done. Ships, jets, and railroad cars last a very long time. Even automobiles last a long time.
The main problem home furnaces face (in terms of longevity) is mandates that they be replaced with heat pumps. The big advantage heat pumps have is that they can be cut off easily, while natural gas cannot in time of a shortage.
Refrigerators are a big energy user. Replacing them more often tends to save electricity.
There are now mandates that natural gas hot water heaters, clothes dryers and stoves be replaced with electric versions. This will make them easier to cut off, but less efficient.
Food we cannot make longer lasting. But we can reduce our reliance on meat and on heavy processing. We can also use food grown closer to use.
We have already cut back on clothing purchases, thanks to the cutbacks in 2020. Fancy events are less common now. More shut ins would be a way of using less energy.
Tim also should probably read the latest findings from The British Royal Society showing that heat is a driver of CO2 (ie CO2 is a lagging indicator)
https://www.mdpi.com/2413-4155/5/3/35
https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadons-post-on-telegram
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“Our health care system is a hoax,” declared Dr Paul Marik, who is the second-most-published critical care physician in the world.
“And so, my advice to you: don’t get sick, don’t go to the hospital, because they’re going to kill you.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1736754607328546852
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Maybe what’s happening is they want to throw out a bit of stimulus without actually reducing the rates.. and having no intention of reducing the rates… cuz they understand that they are in a trap…
https://wolfstreet.com/2023/12/18/fed-members-fan-out-to-step-out-raging-rate-cut-fires/
“throw out a bit of stimulus without actually reducing the rates.. and having no intention of reducing the rates”
You might be right.
or will drop rates once oil prices drop to lows they are not happy with the elders plans aka great reset can only work with at least 80 dollar oil the elders are in panic mode as ukey war and hamas war have failed to keep oil price higher for longer interest rates will logically trend lower from now on it is all about greed and pride as it always has been .
now if i was the elders what would i do if things wernt working forget printing hyperinflation would get us interest rates is the only stimulus left flat or down acceleration of the cull utilizing jabs and fake pandemics along with introduction of cashless society and nuclear energy as the preferred energy along with solar and non renewable fossil fuels continue research and developement in respect to energy innovation by going down this path we may make it for another 50 years allowing us enough time to transition to an alternative world .
The Lies never end .
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2023/12/15/heat-pump-sales -declining-in-europe/
and then
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/12/18/government-will-hit-target-of-600000-annual-heat-pump-installations-insists-minister/
you can pay
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/12/18/the-600-gas-boiler-tax-coming-your-way/
The idea of changing to heat pumps is crazy. There is hardly any area of the world that has the electricity generating ability or the transmission capacity to support such a system. We supposedly will have electric vehicles, too, but running on what? It takes an awfully lot of electricity to run the heat pumps. Pretty much none of this will come from solar panels, since they generate electricity in summer.
They dont care. You can easily arrange rolling blackouts with electricity, but you cant do that with the gas supply. Get everyone on heat pumps first, then start the blackouts.
Interesting point. Also, natural gas requires pipelines to individual homes. Adding them now is a huge cost. It is easier to pretend that electricity lines will be adequate.
Same with electric cars. In the UK, people will just get a message on their home charger:
“Sorry, charging has been disabled to protect grid stability” or something like that.
Turbo cancer? It was detected in March. Now, I know what you all are thinking. It was the CV19 clot shot because he had a broadcasting job calling games. Nope, he was involved and dedicated to helping kids with cancer. So it wasn’t the Vax, he caught it from a cancer patient, just like you can get the flu or common cold from others. 😜
“Eric Montross, 1993 NCAA champion at North Carolina and former NBA center, dies at 52 after battle with cancer”
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/eric-montross-1993-ncaa-champion-at-north-carolina-and-former-nba-center-dies-at-52-after-battle-with-cancer/
Well thank god it was turbo cancer… otherwise he’d have lingered and suffered for much longer…
What goes up has to come down.
There are quite a few people here who is in heavy denial and they would rather do anything to escape the consequences of what the English speaking countries had done in the last 500 years.
Who would have thought about that the fatal blow would come from the Houthi, whom very few people knew about till last week.
Perhaps the majority of the population in United Kingdom, USA and Canada had a higher standard of living than they deserved, and it is time to cut them down and make them as miserable as the denizens of the countries they destroyed.
All of the statements of denial, I take as their refusal to admit that they are mortal. For me it is some kind of copium, trying to escape into some imaginary world which won’t come to pass because of some morons back in 1914.
“what the English speaking countries had done in the last 500 years”
According to your standards they were the winners and again according to your standards the biggest mistake they made was allowing any of the European losers to have a slice of the pie.
You should be more grateful 😉
Conveniently forgetting that the British isles was nothing more than a violence and semen dumping ground for the most ‘determined’ of Scandinavians for the better part of a century.
It seem to have helped, right?
According to kulms winners and losers, it certainly helped them kick the shit out of those soft central Europeans.
We are where we are and what we are. Oops 😬
Hmm, I resemble that remark, cue “Flight of the Valkyries. ”
Dennis L.
Thank you Kulm for your message.
Also here in Europe people live with extremely high standard than they deserve and I can speak in particular for Italy.
We have no fossil energy resources and people use cars even to reach places just around the corner.
Without mentioning also millions of commuters every day using cars around big cities like Rome, Firenze, Bologna…
Our roads are crowded with cars and diesel trucks like crazy.
People ignore completely what could happen.
all part of elders plan , The Ben-Gurion Canal would be more efficient than the Suez Canal because, in addition to being able to accommodate a larger number of ships, it would enable the simultaneous two-way navigation of large ships through the design of two canal arms. Unlike the Suez Canal, which is located along sandy shores, the Israeli canal would have rocky walls that require almost no maintenance. Israel plans to build small towns, hotels, restaurants and cafes along the canal.
The Ben Gurion is nearly 200 meters higher than the Suez… in the middle of a desert. Where is all this water going to come from? Are they going to pump sea water into locks hundreds of meters into to the air? I suppose its possible, but does it really work?
I don’t think that’ll happen. They would still need to get ships through the Bab al-Mandab straits and then there’s the problem that the illegal encampment is falling apart. They’d also need a massive investment and who would put the huge amounts needed in, considering the payback timeframe. No one will trust that the genocidal occupation can supply security anymore. That lie has been wholly exposed.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-pushing-red-sea-into-war-zone-to-protect-israeli-genocide
Here’s someone that does agree with your thoughts.
https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/-israel–destroys-gaza-to-control-world-s-most-important-shi
We’ll have to wait and see, but I think it’s a non starter
it does not solve the problem of the chokepoint at Yemen.
Despair… sets in https://mishtalk.com/economics/in-china-quiet-quitting-becomes-let-it-rot-and-lying-flat/
A good read and sums up the world, quite well.
“Money for Nothing and Nothing for Money”
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/money-for-nothing-and-nothing-for-money/
Jim Kunstler has a lot of great insights in this post.
“The purpose of finance, formerly, was to marshal surplus wealth from prior productive activity to make new productive activity possible.”
He talks about how inflation was created by the response to the September 2019 reverse repo crisis followed by the covid-19 crisis.
He says we can go broke through either hyper inflation or deflation. He says that the planned digital currency is a way to get around deflation. He also says it is being started by giving handouts to the poorest. He expects its “benefits” gradually to be provided to increasingly rich people. Leaders expect that people can be controlled with these handouts.
JHK doesn’t think this is going to work.
It won’t. I fail to see how digital currency kicks the can or solves anything… most people already exclusively use digital currency… I can’t remember the last time I used cash…
Cash digital currency sea shells… if you try to maintain growth by handing out more of whatever…
I doubt any of this will happen … it’s likely just some sort of head fake
“I fail to see how digital currency kicks the can or solves anything”
Tax revenues rise which keeps governments functioning because it gets really hard to avoid paying taxes when the government is monitoring EVERY transaction.
Who needs taxes when you can run a couple of trillion of debt every few months
It won’t. I fail to see how digital currency kicks the can or solves anything… most people already exclusively use digital currency… I can’t remember the last time I used cash…
It’s an irrelevance not worth talking about. It does tend to obsess the low IQ types, as do gold and silver.
All that actually matters is are the trucks still rolling and is there food on the shelves.
There are a lot of US young (and not-so-young) people with this problem. Computer programming looks like a growth area, but there are so many sub-areas of specialty, and so much competition with China and India for programming, that many people find their advancement stymied. There seem to be many who end up changing careers, after many years of programming.
What Happens When the Economy Can No Longer Grow?
What is the goal of the economy? Growth? Full employment? Equity? Price stability? Security? Or, perhaps, to make the top 1% super rich at the cost of everyone else? Well, if it’s that latter, than the economy is doing a stellar job. If you think that’s too cynical to say, then you can chose two on the list above. Or one. Maybe none. With a relentless fall in people’s purchasing power, an energy infrastructure hitting diminishing returns, and being led by less than stellar minds, I argue, there will be just one overarching goal remaining. Security. The rest be damned.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-the-economy-can
Growth has never been a straight line and a dip is not a change in trend.
Starship, physical stuff beyond counting, manufactured in space, pollution dropped into Jupiter. Manufacture and pollute anywhere except spaceship earth.
Dennis L.
There is something called the Third Law of Thermodynamics, You can’t cool to Absolute Zero (aka you can’t get out of the game), for people like you who don’t want to face consequences.
Your delusion seem to be the only thing which is increasing without limit.
I think Mr. L is being sarcastic. It’s polite to place (sarc) beside anything of that nature.
No, he really isn’t.
You are right, TINA, so far Starship is doing fairly well. There’s platinum in them there asteroids, let’s go for it.
Dennis L.
Starship is doing “fairly well”? Both the booster and the main ship exploded both times before even reaching LEO. What exactly would qualify as a failure if this is success? Blowing up on the launchpad?
The universe doesn’t seem to understand thermodynamics, started when some voice said, “Let there be light.” Or if you like a big bang.
My money is on the guy with the biggest bang.
Dennis L.
The Laws of Thermodynamics is true all over the Universe and it does not bend to delusions of some guy in Minnesota.
You think your God has the biggest bang, and I respect your religion since you have the rights to believe whatever suits you, but your God also has to follow the Laws of Thermodynamics, just like any supernatural beings out there.
Starship—They built this city!
(This one takes me back.)
There seems to be an invisible hand behind everything that is happening. I honestly don’t know what is ahead. There have been an awfully lot of unexplainable events happening. Even the strange events of 2020, following the spike in interest rates for reverse repos in September 2019, worked out too perfectly for all of those involved. Big financial problems could be hidden at the same time a whole lot of money was added to the economy. The inflation this caused forced interest rates up, but these higher interest rates were in some ways good for the US economy because the dollar could be higher.
Whenever it looks like we might hit a brick wall, a miraculous save seems to occur. There is an outside Power that seems to be directing what is happening. Creation is really an ongoing process. We think we know what is ahead, but we really don’t.
How China’s slowdown is deepening Hong Kong’s ‘existential crisis’
The territory’s growing reliance on China has turned into a distinctly mixed blessing — with questions of how long hallmarks of its own system can endure
Rosanne Wong should be enjoying a year of recovery at her four cigar shops in Hong Kong, after three years of Covid restrictions were finally lifted at the start of the year and traditionally high spending mainland Chinese tourists returned.
Hand-rolled Cuban cigars have been in high demand — prices for some of the most-sought after types have more than doubled over the past three years.
Instead, in what should have been peak season during October, coinciding with China’s Golden Week national holiday, sales were down roughly 30 per cent compared with the beginning of the year.
Wong says big-spending patrons, many of whom are mainland Chinese working in Hong Kong’s finance industry, were “willing and able to afford high quality cigars” and used to spend up to HK$100,000 ($12,800) each month in the past. “They are less willing to splash money today,” she says.
https://archive.ph/L6tKI#selection-2147.0-2165.286
The problems of China spread to close affiliates!
Hong Kong is part of China. You can guarantee any article in the Western press that tries to obscure that is propaganda.
I predicted — when many expats were cheering on the storm troopers as they smashed the students… that if this situation does not revert to the status quo… in short order HK will become just another sh.it hole mainland Chinese city …
Here we are not even 5 years in … and the expat community has more than halved… the hordes have poured over the border… and the city is profoundly changed
BTW – the reason they supported the storm troopers is primarily selfish in nature — they wanted to keep their cushy jobs and businesses… not that it mattered what they wanted or did not want — but still — this demonstrates the utter stoooopidity of the MOREONS…
I made my token gesture to support the status quo … obviously futile… and I doubt I will ever return to that city … one never knows if one’s futile gesture has offended the machine … so why risk it – and what’s to go back to anyway.
Why do white racists working abroad always call themselves expats, but never call Asians or Africans that work abroad for a few years the same?
They are economic migrants, as you allude to when you write “they wanted to keep their cushy jobs and businesses”. Sad that they can’t admit that, but (scientific)racism is the glue that holds all their sad beliefs of superiority together.
Economic migrants: A person who leaves their country of origin purely for economic reasons that are not in any way related to the refugee definition, in order to seek material improvements in their livelihood.
Expatriate: An expatriate, or expat, is an individual living and/or working in a country other than their country of citizenship, often temporarily and for work reasons.
Singaporeans working in Finance in Hong Kong are considered expats.
Bangladeshis cleaning sewers in Dubai are not considered expats
Ask kulm why this is
Considered?
Always amusing to listen to sad white racists pick and choose to fit their sad white racism.
You are communicating with the GOAT … someone who looks down on 99.99999999999999999999% of humans considering them MOREONS…
Is that racism?
Sounds like delusional thinking from someone that needs to get out more.
A goat would have a better grasp of reality, mainly because it hasn’t been brought up by the screen.
If you’re a goat and you believe everything is a simulation, this must be you.
https://youtu.be/dvWGLcdI8o8?feature=shared
Can you prove it is not a simulation?
Your post is very similar to what he says and so reminded me of it. I should have put sarc, as not implying any more than that. Yes, he does appear to have a strange history. I’ve not heard the terrorist accusation before, but the term has little meaning anymore. I’ve long been accused of being a terrorist sympathiser for apposing actions that are the dictionary definition of terrorism.
The world runs on hypocrisy … if you have might you do whatever you want… until someone with more might stops you then they do what they want…
Realizing this has a calming effect… you stop giving f789s…
I used to have great compassion for the Gazas… how can the JOOS do to such things given their history? But I got over that when I started auditioning for the Elders…
It’s kinda like getting pissed off with Hoolio for what he just did… he ran down that little rabbit and clamped onto its neck with his fangs… and ended its life. And now he is out there chewing on its entrails…
I feel nothing for the rabbit… I am not offended by what Hoolio has done… in fact I kinda admire him … his skill … his speed… his ability to kill without feeling…
It’s the same with the Gazas… they are rabbits… the JOOS are the dogs…
Who cares? It’s like getting upset cuz the winds is blowing …
Have you seen this Student.
https://maritime-executive.com/article/oocl-decides-not-to-serve-israel-for-operational-reasons
The largest shipping company in the world will still use Suez, but is happy to agree with Yemen, nothing in or out of the illegal encampment until they stop the genocide of children.
The encampments economy is falling apart rather rapidly(much quicker than they are murdering children).
Every part of it is going the same way and as they have to import just about everything, this must hurt.
https://twitter.com/IranObserver0/status/1737189549829128294
A reasonable write up of the situation from China.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202312/1303951.shtml
How can one confirm any of this is true?
Example: I spent a week at this…and I know that every word of this is a lie. Every word.
However, Police say they are concerned by the deteriorating conditions at Parliament grounds and urged people to stay away from the protest due to ‘extremly poor’ sanitary conditions, aggressive behaviour within the protest group as well as the presence of Covid-19.
“Increasingly, key protest group leaders are unable to control or influence the disparate groups within the protest.
“We are urging people intent on attending the protest today or the coming week, to stay away, this is not a safe place. We do not want more people joining this environment and putting their health and safety at risk,” a police spokesperson said.
Aggressive behaviour had been directed at both protestors and officers, they said.
Police reaffirmed their stance that the protest site was not a suitable environment for families and children.
Protesters appear to have plumbed toilets into Wellington’s sewer system.
A plywood structure next to portaloos at the junction of Molesworth and Hill streets has pipes that go below ground in the centre of the intersection.
Wellington City Council has said the toilets are illegal.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/462384/protest-at-parliament-grounds-this-is-not-a-safe-place-police
The toilets were portable — and they were maintained properly. There was a kitchen area where people donated food — serving free healthy meals.
There was zero aggression – zero violence — except from the police who tried to violently clear the protesters in the early days.
There were families in attendance and tent with children’s activities — essentially it was a giant KOOMbaya commune.
Yet how would you know that — unless you went there to see? I was walking to the grounds and was speaking to a guy named Tom – he had been mandated out as a volunteer fire fighter (he was a farmer) — we encountered another guy who we engaged with — seemed nice enough so we invited him to come and have a look… no way — he was TERRIFIED… he thought there was cholera in there… and that he’d be beaten up… no way would he come with us….
And then there is this… most people believe this happened https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/indiamoon_feat.jpg
Let’s not forget that the MOREONS are still being pummelled with Safe and Effective – and most still believe it despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary…
Get it? Just about everything is fake. Unless you can actually go and see for yourself – which is not possible most of the time —how can you know what is fake and what is not?
And remember – the media exists to control what you think – not to inform you …
So should we not default to — just about everything in the MSM is fake …
Obviously that leaves us with a problem — how do we determine what is real and what is fake…
We have to look for f789 ups like:
https://www.westernjournal.com/witnesses-cbs-staged-long-line-covid-testing-center-smear-gop-legislature/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-admits-ghost-kyiv-isnt-real-wartime-myth-russia-rcna26867
And remember the clip of the old woman picking up a huge hunk of ‘concrete’ at the scene of an explosion in Ukey… remember the BBC war correspondent hiding behind a dirt bank apparently in the middle of a firefight — and in the background one can see a woman walking with a sack of groceries… remember at the very beginning the female war correspondent in full gear speaking with people on a commuter train… who were completely unconcerned about the supposed war that was raging around them
Yes of course — it’s easier to believe India is on the moon — that 380k soldiers have died in Ukey … believe the ridiculous nonsense… cuz seeking the truth is difficult
May as well go get a booster
Here we are not even 5 years in … and the expat community has more than halved…
Good job China.
A+ for Excellence in F789ing up what was working
I thought that this was a good post:
https://robertbryce.substack.com/p/two-days-after-cop28-iea-delivers
Two Days After COP28, IEA Delivers More Coal Hard Reality
The Iron Law of Electricity strikes again. Global coal use will hit 8.5B tons this year, another new record
There are numerous charts showing how planned future coal generation around the world will greatly exceed solar and wind, and even new nuclear plants.
The whole thing is a sham. While these people are telling the Plebs they need to cutback on fossil fuels, these same people are flying around the world in their private jets and vacationing on their mega yachts. Total hypocrisy.
It is the countries that don’t have fossil fuels that are leading the cry to cut back on fossil fuels. The real agenda is that they cannot afford to buy fossil fuels; they have no choice but to cut back. The narrative that is being told is really a “sour grapes” narrative. We don’t want those terrible fossil fuels because they pollute the atmosphere.
This sounds a lot better to constituents than, “Let’s let the countries with low-wage levels buy the fossil fuels. We can’t afford them. They are in a better position to manufacture goods with them than we are.”
So Teslas have an external combustion engine?
I am not sure why anyone would think a Tesla is environmentally friendly… most of the electricity used to charge them comes from fossil fuels and nukes…
Even if they were charged by solar or wind… that is not green tech…
Actually i know why – cuz they are stooopid — they also believe we have been to the moon – that rat juice is safe and effective when injected
etc etc…
Let’s just assume everyone is stooopid – cuz seriously – they are … all of them
Laughing quietly, yup, good point.
Dennis L.
Not to worry. Most of us will be gone before long. The Cabal has been putting measures in place (and will accelerate their efforts) to move the population line below the resources line. This will keep them comfortable and in power for some time to come.
https://winteroakpress.files.wordpress.com/2023/06/the-great-racket-paul-cudenec.pdf
This is a compilation of articles written by Paul Cudenec in 2022 about the people in power, and how they are trying to manipulate the system.
He may have some insights, but I am not sure that they are outstanding insights. Maybe if I read more of it, I would get more out of it.
Thanks for another fascinating post.
You are welcome.
This is probably of interest to many of you and it has confirmational bias; even mainstream is beginning to note more people than prior to 2020 seem to be passing early.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/opinion-this-is-bigger-than-covid-why-are-so-many-americans-dying-early/ar-AA1loLrN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=2c5b0ce1fa9d4422a6cde0a4c13961d9&ei=12
We are social animals, and we go with the group, it is a strength and a weakness.
Death of the young is a tragedy, especially for the older generations; but the fabric of the universe wants life and it will be life.
Dennis L.
Why does a flower bloom? Jiddu Krishnamurti
Life always finds a way.. Jurassic Park
Early Buddhist teachings explain that we experience suffering because of our earthly desires—various cravings, attachments, illusions and destructive impulses.
Based on this premise, the logical solution to be happier would mean to get rid of all earthly desires. But it is not humanly possible to eliminate all desires.
So the universe is us?
We are part of the fabric of the universe and an incredible achievement for whom/what ever.
Reading Lane, Power, Sex, Suicide, story of the mitochondria.
What I am seeing, biased, more and more scientists, physicists, mathematicians and now biologists see too many coincidences for the universe, stars and life to be other than some sort of intelligent design. 80/20 is generous compared to the universe.
Dennis L.
What kind of life is the question.
I would not consider people living in , say, hillbilly country worth saving.
Right back at ya Kulm!
Lions do not concern themselves with the opinion of sheep.
I heard that somewhere ?!
Well, I disagree strongly.
From Wikipedia, so we know it is accurate.
“Dolly Rebecca Parton was born January 19, 1946, in a one-room cabin on the banks of the Little Pigeon River in Pittman Center, Tennessee.[2] She is the fourth of twelve children born to Avie Lee Caroline (née Owens; 1923–2003) and Robert Lee Parton Sr. (1921–2000). ”
Now those are some hills, they sold a lot of records, vinyl even, tres sophisticated.
Dennis L.
Will any of her music be considered worth saving?
I don’t think so
9 to 5 and Jolene are pretty good.
Air Supplies Greatest Hits.
Donny Osmond
The end of growth is the beginning of collapse .
https://thehonestsorcerer.medium.com/what-happens-when-the-economy-can-no-longer-grow-9d357603ce9b
There is a substack version of this post that people commented on above. It is not behind the Medium pay wall.
https://thehonestsorcerer.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-the-economy-can
As I keep harping:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/young-americans-turn-against-boomers-over-social-security/ar-AA1lFqKV
Kids are less and less interested in work, supposedly turning down managerial jobs. Having run small businesses with payrolls, SS and Medicare are large drains and money not available to the young. Demographics.
Medicare is great, get a good supplemental plan and Mayo will welcome you with open arms, the out of pocket cost is trivial. Be young, the cost is huge.
Amish do not participate in SS last I knew; something works. We are metaphorically eating our young with government programs for the elderly and huge educational costs for the young in most cases except:
My CC, tuition for two years <$14K, starting salary at Mayo per my teacher $76K/year with mandatory overtime and weekend call resulting in about $100K/year. I saw the kids in suits, Mayo meet and greet day at the school. I felt so good for the kids, they were being taught to socialize, these are kids recently out of high school. Tests are right or wrong, the labs work or do not work; week before last lab, this old man was terrified, last week, neatened up the wires, it worked and shouted out, "I beat the bas…" Greatest feeling in the world, overcoming what seems beyond one's ability. Kids in my class experience this, not everything works the first time, they grow. They can move into life, meet its challenges and go forward.
Despite protestations here to the negative, we, some will be fine. Always 80/20, but the 20 help out the 80 and make it work.
Dennis L.
It will be tough if the economy cannot provide as many goods and services in the future, because of limited resources. Dividing them up equitably will be a problem. It is not just lack of funds; it is the lack of resources to make the goods and services. Seniors would like to maintain their standards of living, but this will likely not be possible if population keeps growing.
“Preface. AI is not intelligent, it is stupid! AI not only makes stuff up as explained below, but I have found it to be highly inaccurate and incomplete. For example, I asked about hours and costs of wine tasting in Paso Robles and it got about a quarter of them wrong, and left out quite a few vineyards. When I’ve asked scientific questions for my research, it can’t tell me what sources the information came from. Though once it did — and none were from scientific papers, so of no use to me. With no sources at all, how can I trust the reply? Or use it, since as you know from reading my posts, I cite everything so the reader can check my work and do additional research, because often the citation will have additional, important ideas I left out due to only so much space in a chapter or post.
And AI companies call it a Hallucination? That’s just a way to make it sound more human, more intelligent. Come on. It is flat out lying and confabulating.”?
https://energyskeptic.com/2023/why-is-everyone-afraid-of-ai-taking-over-it-makes-stuff-up/
I have discovered, too, that even when items are from scientific papers, they can be built on false premises that have creeped in over the years. Or an author may simply misinterpret what another author has said.
For example, the amount of nonsense that has been published about “green energy” makes it hard for AI to come up with anything useful on the subject.
Another example is cholesterol. AI will certainly say that it is bad for you, even though there are dozens of papers where higher cholesterol results in decreased overall mortality.
What AI will get right is the teasing of information out of complex data. Israel is targeting Gaza based on AI outputs (themselves obtained by analyzing telecom data). Surely they are killing Hamas more efficiently. A funded project of mine could not provide publishable data until we applied AI to the data and found out what we were missing.
Statins… moon landings… 911… JFK…. and on and on and on … it’s a false parallel universe… that most people inhabit — and never question
I cannot give details, but a company I work with give its employee the possibility to reply to some customers’ requests with AI, in order to maximize replies.
The objective is of course to reduce employees over time.
My question is: when we will have reached the point that all companies will reply with AI to all customers’ requests and, in turn, also customers will have made requests to relative suppliers using AI, for whom AI will have bought things?
As there will be no employees..
See the bottom right corner – that is powered by Ai https://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/
I asked – what is 2+2?
Looks like you want to link some bookings together. Are you a traveller on both bookings?
These things are very close to completely useless… yet there they are … on the websites of just about every major corporation
I ‘talked’ to the British Gas one and it insisted I was not a British Gas customer so it couldn’t help me (I have been for almost 5 years)
postkey,
Some of what AI produces is wrong, have found that when I knew the answer to certain logic problems. But, it helps in programming, much easier to find small issues than read through thick books.
We probably are not getting the “best” AI, I find it helpful and it beats an instruction manual or many times finds the manual much more quickly that a human search.
Dennis L.
hahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha it’s ALL … FAKE
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/90399
We have seen similar videos with Anthony Fauci.
The same STEM workes you are defending
hkeithhenson says:
December 17, 2023 at 11:32 pm
“I am not defending them. I was objecting to “PTB have had been titrating ” because the technology is not up to the such a task–yet anyway.”
“I make no claim about AI making people unemployed. For all I know, there may be a desperate shortage of people to prompt AIs. AI of the current LLM type has been around more than a year and as far as I know it has not caused the employment rate to go down.”
In either case, you are deferring to the authority figures and act like they aren’t doing anything they haven’t told you or the media aobut. Right now, you are dropping another false assumption about the employment rate going down as if they have been accurate and honest with the public and you about the rate. The truth of the matter is you don’t know anything more than the unwashed masses about what is being worked on in secret.
hkeithhenson says:
December 17, 2023 at 11:32 pm
“Besides, biological weapons are the very devil to control.”
Nuclear radiation is a devil to control but that hasn’t stopped anyone from experimenting with it and developing weapons with it despite the threat of nuclear contamination.
“Nuclear radiation is a devil to control ”
Biological weapons are much worse. Radiation just sits there, biological stuff replicates and in the case of Covid *mutates.* If the last three years don’t provide an example, I don’t know what would.
JAPANESE SCIENTISTS FIND INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ALL COVID VARIANTS ARE MAN-MADE
https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japanese-scientists-find-indisputable-evidence-that-all-covid-variants-are-man-made/
As will be the Pathogen that kills the immune f789ed vaxxers
Not according to vanden Bossche?
I think what the paper shows is that the Omicron virus had to be a separately released mutated virus from the original covid virus.
This is the link to the associated academic paper. https://zenodo.org/records/8361577
The abstract concludes
In fact, that is what the Highwire video says on the front. It is the link that is misleading.
https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japanese-scientists-find-indisputable-evidence-that-all-covid-variants-are-man-made/
We saw something related to this earlier. The academic paper is from Aug. 15, 2023.
Sorry, I looked at it again. This is indeed new, and does claim all of the different Omicron variants were separately released. I still find this hard to believe, but I suppose it could be true. Simply showing that Omicron was separately released seemed impressive to me.
Great article, and near and dear to my heart. I read every article Gail posts, and often read all or most of the comments, but rarely comment myself. I very much appreciate the links and info provided by my fellow readers, but do not get the sense that many people here are actively taking steps to build in resilience to the coming un-winding. Gail is providing great information, but then what do we do with that information?
With the hope my comment is met with a little enthusiasm and maybe even some comradery in preparing ourselves and our loved ones for the future shocks:
The chart that gave me chills was the chart measuring per capita farmers, comparing the US below 5% and the developing countries at 65%. That’s a really big spread. With the looming fossil fuel crisis combined with the abysmally low percentages of US farmers, it’s practically a patriotic duty to start growing food if you’re an American. Food being one of the 3 foundational requirements under Maslow’s Hierarchy of needs, it’s a damn good place to start.
I can’t speak for the people living in the cities, as I live in rural North Central Florida and I have no idea how people would survive in the city.
The food part is not that difficult if you think in terms of subsistence farming. Instead of cattle and hogs, think chickens and goats. Instead of an acre of wheat, think a quarter acre (or less) of hard beans. Don’t underestimate fruit. An acre of fruit trees provides more calories than an acre of grains, the fruit comes back year after year; and fruit can be dried or canned. Yes it takes time to grow a crop of fruit trees, but not that much time and a lot of fruit grows wild.
I view a food supply in the house as a means to provide for the interim (although I use the stored food regularly while resupplying). The interim period would be the adjustment reaction period and would include organizing things like: the next food crop, wildcrafting available food, acquiring chickens and a chicken coop, or goats and a little barn where hand tools and salvage would provide the means and the materials. Having even a small supply of viable seeds that have the capacity to reproduce themselves would be invaluable. Some crops are very easy to grow and can serve as a staple crop like Seminole pumpkins, and Seminoles produce a lot of seeds.
My plan for drinking and cooking water is our hand pump, however, water catchment systems like rain barrels will provide water for cleaning/bathing, flushing (into septic), laundry, and hand watering crops if necessary.
As for shelter, my plan is an Earthship greenhouse. Underground housing is the MOST energy efficient housing and does not have look like a cave. See the film Garbage Warrior, free on youtube for the concept. I would use it as shelter from the heat here in Florida and shelter from electrical storms and high wind/tornados, and of course as a green house too.
Underground housing works in the north too with no need to cut down trees for heating. Speaking of saving trees, dried cow patties are a perfect fuel for cooking and would save some more trees. It really works, I’ve seen demonstrations of cooking with dried cow patties.
As for security, the more people growing food, the more security we will have. They say there is safety in numbers, so while cultivating food and skills, we should cultivate networks of like minded people and be prepared to help others.
Life will go on without plentiful fossil fuels …. but it will be a different life.
Collapse now and avoid the rush.
I can’t speak for the people living in the cities, as I live in rural North Central Florida and I have no idea how people would survive in the city.
Here we go again. Try imagining what is going to happen to you when the raiders from the city come, which they will. Yeah yeah, you have guns. So will they.
OK, Withnail, this is exactly what I’m talking about, a ne’er do well type of fatalism. So what? Do nothing? Is that YOUR plan? Good luck with that. Have you sown seeds of goodwill lately?
There isn’t any point in doing anything. There is nothing we can do.
Nonsense, we humans have been here for a long time and we shall continue to do so.
Lorraine has some good points and she is fortunate, the climate in not MN.
Dennis L.
Dennis, you sincerely believe that if humans survived for the last 100,000 years, it can survive the next 100,000 years? What kind of logic is this? Please enlighten me on how you can even come out with this statement
CTG,
Reply to your logic.
Logic is in part from the enlightenment, or “I think therefore I am.”
Reading a book by Lane, “Power, Sex Suicide.” It is about the mitochondria.
Quote from page 33, second paragraph.
“Some physicists… find a spiritual grandeur.. of the universe as the midwife of intelligence. Such insights into the innermost workings of nature are celebrated as a “‘window’ into the mind of God.” Of as I like to think of it, we “discover” the universe, we do not reason it out and from that form a narrative.
Your mileage may vary,
Dennis L.
Long while back remember reading of the overtaking of the Western part of the Roman Empire and it’s collapse.
Form my memory, not all was mayhem and disorder on the so called barbarian side. Much was preserved and that even included property titles, which in cases were respected.
Suppose these peoples realized that it was to their best interests to keep what was working and productive to make living better.
No need to reply, Withnail, I know it does not contribute to your comment, and you already know that…this is for other eyes.
No need to reply, Withnail, I know it does not contribute to your comment, and you already know that…this is for other eyes.
I must reply anyway to correct misinformation.
The archeological record shows a pretty much total economic collapse which lasted centuries before any sort of recovery began.
Even the size of cattle raised by farmers following collapse was much smaller and there were a lot fewer of them.
Well,that’s your opinion ..since you have not given any reference works.
FYI…my post was in reference to one period of human history and does indicate it will be the same ahead.
Again no need to reply with your opinion, thank you.
Surely you are aware they did not grow all their food with petro chemicals — as we do… so they did not starve?
Stay with it Lorraine. Use your own evaluations on what is likely to affect you and don’t waste time trying to decide what to do about all the doom scenarios quoted by other commenters.
Easy to come up with words to claim what will happen to you, but do they have any experience or real facts about could happen?
I doubt if anyone really knows.
There used to be laws in wartime about spreading gloom and despondency with severe penalties, and rightly so.
Predicting the future about a complex matter that will cause anguish, pain and death if their predictions come true qualifies a number of commenters.
About time to apply some penalties to them.
Some examples:
Claiming nuclear fuel will poison all life all over the world, (Funny, Hiroshima is ‘back to normal’, People living is Southern Australia used to get fallout from nuclear testing with no special precautions and there are still a few alive.)
Of course the leaking of spent fuel is nasty stuff and will ruin some areas for many many years, but in the next valley?, the area 299 miles away?
Does anyone really know?
Starving hordes will march 50 miles to eat your children, (hope they pack a good lunch, not easy to march that far when you are starving).
Some secret army will come and wipe out any survivors. (keeping it totally secret, having supplies of food, arms, transport, and having a motive for succeeding then living on what and where?)
To others who find that many comments are depressing, I suggest let Lorraines comments
be an inspiration.
So let the despondent do nothing and wish them a peaceful demise.
But maintain your ‘intestinal fortitude’and do your best for yourself, your family and fellow human beings.
Use your mental attributes to help, whether they be a philosophy (Marcus Aurelius et al), a religious belief or your own home grown attitude to what it is to be a human being.
I thank Lorraine for providing her thoughts here, in spite of the attitude of many and would suggest other readers take inspiration from her and make their own decisions on how to prepare.
No guarantees of course, but not to try is almost a guarantee of failure.
Yes.
Dennis L.
We’re very supportive! Just make sure to have lots of guns, ammo, and recipes for long pig.
ivan,
Not so sure about guns, many places on earth have lots of guns and they are not very pleasant places to live.
Amish have a few single shot hunting guns, but on the whole eschew violence.
Dennis L.
Be willing to partake of the taboo flesh….
But even that will run out
Embrace delusional thinking Lorraine!
If it makes you feel better great.
But it is … delusional. It is .. a form of mental illness
Delusion = believing tv programming(no matter the medium) is giving you hidden clues that others can’t see.
If it makes you feel better great.
But it is … delusional. It is .. a form of mental illness
What a great time to be alive and a great post from Pedro, because only the delusional would believe they know how things will turn out(apart from a lot a death, but oh well).
F. Fail.
Not when you know what they are up to … and watch to find out what they are up to.
Same reason I look at the MSM… I know it’s all fake… all of it (cept sports scores)….
But I want to know what the latest lies are … and what the MOREONS are being told to think… I find that useful.
Guns don’t kill people, people kill people
You watch tv to find out do you? Good luck with that.
Again, it’s bullets.
Starving hordes will march 50 miles to eat your children, (hope they pack a good lunch, not easy to march that far when you are starving).
Yes, no need to worry. The millions and millions of city folk will never think of escaping the city.
They are duuumb .. but not duuumb enough not to understand that food is grow in rural areas… folks in those places have gardens… there will be large farms… with food..
Food — that thing humans need to survive… hunger pangs will alert them to the need for it…
And like rats… they will load up into the cars… and head to .. where the food is…
Many of them will have weapons… like guns and ammo … and they will use them .. to ensure their children get … food. They will kill. Oh yes they will
“Oh yes they will”
Oh no they won’t(it’s pantomime season).
The roads will be unusable in less than 24hrs(probably 2 in reality), so they will have to walk and a starving person after a 50 mile hike is little threat. You could blow them over. Only a screen programmed moron would not realise this and what happened to your snipers and dead bodies keeping everyone indoors?
So many contradictions.
Nah… they’ll come…. not all of them … but plenty … then there are your neighbours in rural buttf789town… who don’t have gardens… didn’t prep…
gonna be a wonderful adventure right? hahaha
Plenty of weak, starving, close to death people that barely have enough energy to lift their arms. Scary.
Rural people all have gardens.
buttf789town? I don’t live in NZ.
they do everything by numbers in NZ
I’m rural. Most do not have gardens here – all those that do including me – would starve if we had to rely on being fed from our gardens.
Of course the delusional think otherwise. But that’s why they are delusional.
And never try the Fast Eddy Challenge – cuz that defence mechanism that maintains the delusion — will not allow this
In rural England everyone has a garden and yes they’ll all starve(apart from those that don’t, but that won’t be because of their individual gardens).
Interesting times Eddy.
Would you like to be the first to agree to take The Fast Eddy Challenge???
Do you need details?
I thought so…. F. Fail. Losing is for Losers
And like rats… they will load up into the cars… and head to .. where the food is…
Minus the cars, that’s what happened, obviously, in every previous collapse. If you can’t live in the city, you leave.
I have no idea what Fitz is talking about.
Predicting the future about a complex matter that will cause anguish, pain and death if their predictions come true qualifies a number of commenters.
About time to apply some penalties to them.
You are demanding legal punishment for people who, on a blog that predicts bad things are going to happen, predict bad things are going to happen?
Are you sure you’re on the right blog?
I don’t know about you but I am going to celebration the extinction of humans
You would have to be dead.
How are you going to celebrate?
he would leave a generous legacy for all OFW-ers to be uploaded up his own fundament–where we would all live happy ever after
There will be a window of a few weeks after the pathogen is released.. to celebrate.
Meanwhile I am pre-celebrating already … knowing what is coming is very satisfying
Pathogen?
Did come from screen world?
Tell me about it next Christmas.
And then there are the vax injuries and deaths… that bring joy to my life… they really do… cuz they are a daily reminder that we are circling the drain 🙂 🙂 🙂
SCHAD is a wonderful thing
Anyone who resists — gets skinned alive
Yes collapse will be a great adventure – like in the movies right?
Familiarize yourself with what will happen when there is no food – and billions are hungry …
https://www.icrc.org/en/doc/resources/documents/article/other/5rfhjy.htm
https://airmail.news/issues/2019-11-2/how-to-serve-man
Never impinge on a Hypers right to self delusion. Let them dwell in egotistic fantasy land of successes, prestiges, statuses, external validations and monies.
You should encourage permaculture, prepping, homesteads, vaxxing children, projecting on asocial media, and blowing through copious amounts of finite resources while hoping and coping from their mental illness.
Let’s bring this sucker down.
https://youtu.be/JrBdYmStZJ4?si=Zy1cktFT9nodH0D2
🤥🦧
However, in the mean time:
(etc.)
Let’s not forget how proud the Vaxxers were to proclaim ‘I got the Pfizer Shot!’ as if that brand somehow made them more important … more attractive … superior.
More than one that I know let me know they were Pfizered…
Utter f789ing im be ciles. Monkeys. Inferior to monkeys (apparently monkeys don’t stink)
I’m sure a chimp smells like a summers breeze after a lifetime in the tree plumes flinging feces and ripping a limb or two off some unfortunate close relative.
🤥🦧
Lorraine, whatever you do to prepare, it will probably last you a few months extra if you stay in a remote place. If you atay with 50 miles ftom the nearest human settlement, then probably a few days extra.
Be sure not to light a fire during the day … the smoke will indicate life… and it will attract some very bad people who will do very bad things to you
Hopefully she doesn’t have solar panels on the roof either, glinting in the sun.
Or a barking dog…
There was some writing by a guy claims to have lived through a siege in Sarajevo. He basically said you need disposable items for trade (eg. lighters, alcohol, antibiotics) and a large family group with guns. He said guns and a group are the most important thing: with them you can get the rest. This lasted about a year.
The Holodomor may also serve as a guide. Don’t let any kids out, if you have them. Eat one another when necessary. You can cook your family and neighbors with those cow patties.
Sarajevo happened when the rest of the world is still functioning. Ehen this financial baby goes down, thw whole world is impacted. No one will come to your rescue. There are just too many “I owe him, he owes her and she owes me” circle jerk counterpart risks that it is just impossible to quantify
I’ve read that… the thing is … BAU was still functional both in that city – and globally.
They had some food – some petrol – some electricity ….
When BAU collapses there will be none of the above. ZERO
There will be 8B fighting desperately to the death over a can of tuna. And when the can is emptied… there will be no more
Lose the normalcy bias… there has NEVER in history … been a situation like this. NEVER
There may very well be some people who figure out solutions. We know that historically, there have been people who lived through ice ages, and some people who migrate long distances. But it is hard to believe that these solutions will work for any significant share of today’s population.
North Florida is a better area than others for growing crops of different types, I would expect, at least from a weather aspect. I suspect that it needs fertilizer, or better yet, nutrients added back into the soil. Human and animal waste are suitable for this purpose.
A person does need to find the proper area to build an underground home, or mostly underground home. Where I live, there is rock not far under the surface. Blasting needs to be done to reshape the rock.
Laughing quietly, there goes the neighborhood, bang!
Dennis L.
Recall how they killed and ate very single animal during the famine in Russia
(Trasporto Europa)
Also the shipping containers line ‘MSC’ excludes the Red Sea for its travels.
Hapag Lloyd and Maersk did the same.
More costs for goods leaving and arriving (longer routes), expecially from and to Europe.
Almost no revenues to Egypt for Suez Canal.
From a technical point of view, Israel is creating financial problems to many Countries.
It could be that either there could be an escalation against Houthi (Yemen, Iran) or Israel should play down on mass killing of thousands of civilians and chose to work differently.
It is incredible how Israeli people are bearing Nethaniahu that he is showing to have no interest to exchange mutual hostages.
https://www.trasportoeuropa.it/notizie/marittimo/anche-msc-sospende-il-transito-nel-mar-rosso/
norm and keith qualify https://archive.ph/tPaAw
>> Cognitive impairment is a “hallmark of long Covid,” said Dr. Ziyad Al-Aly, chief of research and development at the V.A. St. Louis Health Care System and a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University in St. Louis.
That’s why it’s so important to stay current on one’s boosters. Have you injected Hoolio? Dogs are susceptible, too! Do the right thing!
Hoolio is Anti Vax
The word anti is trick they use. It is a red flag that one is a crazy wacko and should be ignored. Say rather, Hoolio is pro life, Hoolio is pro immune system.
Charlotte Ruse
48 mins ago
“Following nine million doses of 4vHPV vaccine administered in Australia, 4551 AE reports were identified. The crude reporting rate was 39.8 per 100 000 doses in the funded cohorts, excluding the enhanced surveillance period. The reported rate of syncope in 12 to 13-year-old males and females was 29.6 per 100 000 doses during enhanced surveillance and 7.1 per 100 000 doses during the remaining study period; rates of syncope were higher in younger compared to older adolescents. The rate of anaphylaxis (0.32 per 100 000 doses) was consistent with published rates. Other AESI including autoimmune disease, postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, primary ovarian insufficiency, Guillain-Barré syndrome, complex regional pain syndrome and venous thromboembolism, were reported at low rates and analysis did not reveal unexpected patterns that would suggest causal association.”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X20308252
What’s the great need for the HPV vaccine? The vaccine is supposedly used to prevent cervical cancer, however, it’s ovarian cancer whose malignancy is often deadly. In fact, ovarian cancer causes more deaths than any other cancer of the female reproductive system.
F789 ALL VACCINES
Not at all, encourage all vaccines, and contraceptive pills.
And frivolous sexual encounters.
Let ‘em Hypers get what they so crave.
“According to the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), six oncoviruses are involved in malignant cell transformation, including human papilloma virus (HPV), hepatitis B and C viruses (HBV and HCV), human T lymphotrophic virus type 1 (HTLV-1), Epstein–Barr virus (EBV), and Kaposi sarcoma herpesvirus (KSHV)”
However, in the mean time:
(etc.)
🤥🦧
The funny thing about viruses (TM) is that they don’t even need to exist to influence the ideas and behaviors of the naked monkey. In this they are only comparable to God (TM).
Hail the new religion, Medicine, and the new priests, the Doctors.
Salvation is nigh, and will come post-mortem.
And the funny thing about the War on CancerTM, is that the longer it goes on, the stronger cancer seems to grow.
Doc Malik was saying the other day that when he was in medical school in the UK around a quarter of a century ago, the students were taught that there lifetime risk of developing at least one cancer was one in five, and they were freaked out when they learned this.
By contrast, the corresponding rate these days is one in two. According to some statistics, half of Britons alive today will develop cancer some time in their life.
The medical/pharmaceutical industry likes to push statistical links between genetics and cancer. But even Keith—if you get him on a sanguine day—will concede that the human genome doesn’t change very much between one generation and the next.
So, logic dictates that we must look elsewhere for answers.
Whenever the US government declares war on something (cancer, drugs, terrorism) that something multiplies.
I’m sure that if they declared war on the moon, in a few months we could be saving millions on street lighting.
“the corresponding rate these days is one in two. ”
That’s not surprising. Cancer is mostly a disease of the old. Live longer and your chances of cancer goes up.
“the human genome doesn’t change very much between one generation and the next. ”
That’s true, though selection pressure like that applied to the tame Russian foxes can makes rapid changes.
But we are close to an era where we can edit every new individual.
This is possible, though I don’t know if it will happen before advances take humans beyond flesh.
////before advances take humans beyond flesh.////
keith
tell me you are indulging in ludicrousity
if you aren’t i shall be forced to go back to reading Eddyties
When I was in the Arctic … I was informed that before the white man arrived and began shipping food to ‘help’ the folks up there… cancer was a very rare disease…
Did you know that bacon, sausages, and just about every type of meat that is processed has the same stuff that we use to make fertilizer and gun powder in it… of course the levels are considered safe… (where have we heard that term before… ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrate
All processed foods are poison. Eventually eating them will result in your death. Likewise sugar — which is in most processed foods – in large amounts
More and more poison in the air, food, water and chemical-pharmaceutical products, combined with more stress and emotional shock than we have ever known, this is what explains the significant increase in cancer cases in recent decades.
“we use to make fertilizer and gun powder”
Fertilizer and gun powder are nitrate, not nitrite. Big difference.
Nitrites and nitrates are some of the oldest preservatives known, dating back at least to the middle ages.
https://www.indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/gunpowder-preserve-food.php
I appreciate your concern. However, spiking the smoothies with some extra sugar from sugar crane is sublime.
Yes, I do exercise, and I reckon that my insulin receptors isn’t bogged up by byproducts from animal products.
Fortunately Bolivian Blow is not adulterated with sugar…
A study by New Zealand’s Beverley Lawton et al. “proved” that receipt of the HPV vaccine reduced preterm births.
However, when statistical sleuths questioned the data, the study was retracted, as it turned out that the findings were inverted. The story of the retraction is quite scandalous and is worth exploring!
https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/retracted-nz-study-proved-hpv-vaccine
Caught in the act!
The second car in the family becomes a luxury. Czechs are saving and filling up used car dealerships
https://www.trend.sk/spravy/druhe-auto-rodine-stava-luxusom-cesi-setria-plnia-autobazare?itm_brand=trend&itm_template=hp&itm_modul=suhrn_sprav&itm_area=denny_suhrn_sprav&itm_position=4
Years ago, families didn’t have two cars.
Maybe used car prices will fall.
https://youtu.be/Dh1JZVjKUAo
This is titled, “Hunting the One Percent’s Doomsday Bunkers in New Zealand.”
This video was published in 2019 and has 4 million views. It is about 28 minutes long. There are companies that will build underground bunkers for multimillionaires, with only a small portion showing above ground. Nice scenery.
Fast Eddy should be able to tell us if this stuff is for real. New Zealand does get caught up in Covid hysteria, however, even if nuclear fallout problems are minimal. Jet fuel to New Zealand is a problem.
Two of my neighbours have worked as project managers on high end builds…
One was involved in a build worth big money that had 3 large underground rooms…
The other mentioned a 10M build some years back that had 200k+ in security cams along with a double lock entrance… you have to be let past the main door then there is another lock on the entrance…
One other is in Glenorchy – not sure about bunkers but the only access is by chopper… someone we know was shagging a cleaner who works there
Thanks! I wonder how these folks expect to get food and water, and get rid of wastes. I would think that they would need to have staff, and the staff would not necessarily be loyal to them. Interesting to follow in future years.
yup
guards have to be paid—otherwise they go self employed
the ancient Egyptians were a case in point—the pharoahs had unlimited resources, built bunkers out of solid granite, then sealed themselves in, in order to pass into the afterlife.
everybody knew where they were, and looted their stuff in short order.
I would like to point you to the works of Richard A. Werner. He said recently in the corona-ausschuss.de, in my words, the procedures during the pandemic remind him to the inductive method in macroeconomics and their regime to stop criticism. I have understood that as a hint to the education of the responsible actors. That might explain how it was done and which structures were used.
Werner is devoted to empirical research in macroeconomics.
You might be interested especially in this:
Are lower interest rates really associated with higher growth? New empirical evidence on the interest rate thesis from 19 countries.
https://professorwerner.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/2022-IJFE-Lee-Werner-Are-lower-rates-really-associated-with-higher-growth.pdf
How do banks create money, and why can other firms not do the same? An explanation for the coexistence of lending and deposit-taking
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1057521914001434/pdfft?md5=1c000f807bfbdeef55431b42979106ca&pid=1-s2.0-S1057521914001434-main.pdf
From the “Federal Register / Vol. 88, No. 226 / Monday, November 27, 2023 / Notices 82907”:
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
Office of the Secretary
Notice of Declaration Under the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act for Countermeasures Against Ebolavirus and/or Ebola Disease and Marburgvirus and/or Marburg Disease
ACTION: Notice of amendment.
SUMMARY: The Secretary issues this amendment pursuant to section 319F–3 of the Public Health Service Act to amend the Declaration for Countermeasures against Marburgvirus and/or Marburg Disease to cover both Ebolaviruses and Marburgviruses and republishes the declaration, as amended. The amended republished Declaration clarifies that the disease threat includes Ebolaviruses and Marburgviruses, updates the title of the Declaration, expands the Covered Countermeasures, and extends the effective time period.
DATES: The amendment is effective as of January 1, 2024.
“I am extending PREP Act Coverage for both Ebolaviruses and Marburgviruses due to the continued national security threat posed by these viruses. Ebolaviruses and Marburgviruses have the potential to cause significant morbidity and mortality during outbreaks. The risk of domestic cases is high due to ongoing outbreaks in other countries over the past decade. Development of and stockpiling vaccines, therapeutics, devices, and diagnostics for all species of both Ebolaviruses and Marburgviruses is needed for continued U.S. preparedness against the credible threat of a public health emergency due to outbreaks of these viruses.”
“I am amending the PREP Act Declaration for Countermeasures Against Marburgvirus and/or Marburg Disease to cover countermeasures previously covered under the Declaration for Ebola Virus Disease Vaccines and the Declaration for Ebola Virus Disease Therapeutics due to the similarities of the viruses and the need to expand Covered Countermeasures against Ebola Disease to include all vaccines, diagnostics, and devices in addition to previously covered vaccines and therapeutics, and to cover these countermeasures when administered or used by an Authority Having Jurisdiction to respond to a declared emergency, in addition to previously covered activities directly supported by the United States. All previously Covered Countermeasures for Ebolavirus and distribution activities continue to be covered. This action has the effect of combining the three previous Declarations into one amended Declaration and makes PREP Act coverage for Ebolavirus countermeasures consistent with PREP Act coverage provided for other health threats, including Marburg, Smallpox, Pandemic Influenza, Anthrax, and Acute Radiation Syndrome and emerging infectious diseases such as COVID–19.”
Section VI. Covered Countermeasures
“I am amending Section VI of the Declaration to include any antiviral, any other drug, any biologic, any diagnostic, any other device, or any vaccine, used to diagnose, mitigate, prevent, treat, cure, or limit EBOD, MARD, or the transmission of Ebolaviruses, Marburgviruses, or a virus mutating therefrom, or any device used in the administration of any such product, and all components and constituent materials of any such product.”
Section XII. Effective Time Period
“I am extending the effective time period for the Declaration through December 31, 2028.”
Dated: November 21, 2023.
Xavier Becerra, Secretary, Department of Health and Human Services.
https://bailiwicknewsarchives.files.wordpress.com/2023/12/2023.11.27-88-fr-82907-phe-prep-act-declaration-amendment-1-marburg-ebola.pdf
So, between January 1, 2024 and December 31, 2028, there will be expanded PREP Act coverage for Ebolavirus and Marburgvirus countermeasures. Curious.
Code for the pathogen that is to be released and kill the Vaxxers cuz f789ed immune systems…
This plan deals with how to also kill those who survive
Strange!
In other words, in the next round of Pandemic (TM), anti-vaxxers will be legally treated as terrorists, unpersons and a threat to state security.
Makes sense – can’t have these healthy A vaxxers wandering around as the Vaxxers drop dead by the billions
Hahaha… total clown world now
https://mishtalk.com/economics/chinas-securities-regulator-warns-companies-to-increase-dividends-and-buy-backs/
China companies are urged to adopt the tricks of US stock companies.
Let’s see if anyone can guess which famous person will drop on Xmas day
Santa Claus will come down the chimney!
LOL
Something is not right, and the drastically divergent messages from Powell and his cronies at the Fed over the last month and a half con firm this suspicion. It does remind me of September 2019 when the repo market revealed the underlying mechanisms within the financial system were malfunctioning and were about to lead to another massive financial crisis. Powell restarted QE and “luckily” the covid scamdemic was rolled out, so Powell and and our corrupt political class could pump trillions into the system and keep it alive.
Powell and his fellow tough guys at the Fed had increased rates to 5.3% and have talked tough about keeping rates up until inflation got back to their 2% target. With GDP supposedly accelerating at 5.2%, unemployment still near all-time lows, and corporate profits still booming, there should be no fear about rates being too high by Powell and his sycophants. But suddenly this week Powell and these economic “rocket scientists” now are saying they will be cutting rates soon and more than anyone expected.
The Fed Since November 1st:
1. Nov. 1: Getting inflation to 2% “has a long way to go”
2. Nov. 21: “No indication of rate cuts at last meeting”
3. Dec. 1: Talks about rate cuts are “premature”
4. Dec. 1: “We are prepared to tighten policy further” if needed
5. Dec. 13: Rates…
The stock market exploded to all-time highs and interest rates plummeted. This seems odd, when more than half the country is struggling to put food on the table. It’s almost as if Powell and his pals know something really bad is about to happen and want to front run the event, or, like September 2019, they see something terribly wrong within the financial system and are trying to fix it before it blows up. We do know the Too Big To Trust Wall Street banks have close to $700 billion of unrealized losses on their books due to interest rates hitting 16 year highs. We also know these banks have been increasingly utilizing the Fed’s emergency facility every day.
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/12/15/theres-something-happening-here/
It feels like Q4 2019… something big is coming — the pathogen… has to be … cuz the Fed is trapped… increase rates = doomed decrease rates = doomed
Only question is when do they pull the trigger and release it
I agree. The Powers that Be must be aware that things are going very badly. It is like September 2019 all over again. They need to change their story, and fast.
You posted the story about the Japanese bank branch with problems. That is part of the story. I expect that year end will show other banks with problems.
If the Fed is bailing out Japan … maybe they will (or are) bail the Chinese property market… that would as with the Japan thing… not be on cnnbbc….
More evidence that cnnbbc exist not to inform
I’m Fed up.
is anyone else too?
I’m just waiting for the moment when they throw up their hands in despair … the honcho says — well folks.. we put up one hell of a fight … we’ve kept the Demons from Hell at bay for over two decades…
But now we have to accept that there is nothing more that can be done… please turn off your computers and go home to be with your families…
Then the honcho will make The Call to the Elders… yes.. we are sure… that’s it… we’ve sent everyone home as per the plan…
You can go ahead and launch the pathogen now … yes of course I will alert the PR Team to have bbccn ready to get footage of the dying .. and run it 24/7… I’ll also communicate with the unvaxxed sniper and drone squads and get them ready for imminent deployment….
Heil Hitler and Zieg Heil also. Same to ya’ll.
Just do some strenuous physical exercise, take a shower and then meditate afterwards.
😉
Why bother about the perpetual recurrence of the Hyper, forever stuck in a local maxima of loonie?
Just get the job done, and then wash the reek from Rapacious Primate Monkey Business off your hands and mind.
🤥🦧💨
You’d be amazed.
However, in the mean time:
(etc.)
🤣👍👍
Just thinking … is the human the only animal with body odour????
I don’t think monkeys use deodorant… Hoolio definitely does not … and he does not smell… even after a session of rabbit hunting
Seems humans are the only species that actually stinks…
It’s more of a metaphorical reek of monkey business and mental illness.
Yep, monkeys do smell. I reckon you’d not appreciate the waft being close to a chimp as you’re to Rapacious Primates in general.
I am so proud of the university students that are protesting for the protection of the Palestinian people.
It is clear that the UK has never had the authority to give Palestine to the political group Zionism. In 1900 Christians, Muslims, and Jew lived together in peace in Palestine. It was only after the terrorist killing by the extremist Zionist of the Palestinians that peace was forever lost.
It is clear only the removal of the murdering Zionist completely from Palestine will bring justice and peace.
Historical inaccuracies aside.
At Yalta, FDR gave Churchill the ultimatum. Give up your colonies or you wont have rebuilding assistance after the war. Same went of the other European powers with colonies. Give them up or no Marshall plan for you.
The best man at my wedding was a British soldier in Palestine in 1946. He told me that driving down a road in a jeep was extremely hazardous. The Palestinians would shoot at them from one side of the road and the Jewish “Terrorists” from the other.
Hahaha… why don’t you sponsor a student and pay their way to fight for the Gazas if you feel this strongly?
I suspect none of the protesters will walk the walk though
The weak cuz crushed again — all is well
No one spends $400,000 for a BA and then goes to die. They will go on to congress where they can make a difference.
Yes, “and get the other poor, dumb bastard to die for his country”.
It’s kinda like vaccines… generally they are useless or the risks outweigh the benefits…
So if there are any benefits great – let the MOREONS inject them – all of them – take the risks… then you as an unvaxxed get the benefits.
F789 the MOREONS… also let the MOREONS take a bullet in the head so your team can win and you get to continue to live large on the pillage.
F789 the MOREONS… F789 the MOREONS…. use them… abuse them
Afterall… they are stooopid – they deserve it
“with barely enough wood for cooking,”
One the things solar is really good at is providing cooking heat. Save a dish antenna and glue fragments of mirror to it. Or if you have it, cover the antenna with aluminum foil.
When the sun is out, solar is good for cooking. In the middle of a snow storm or a rain storm, it is not very good.
I have a solar oven that I bought years ago. If, for me, the place that gets enough sunlight to cook is right out by the street, how do I prevent other people from taking the food that I put out there to cook? Wouldn’t they take the solar oven, as well?
How do people living in apartments use solar ovens?
“How do people living in apartments use solar ovens?”
Lot’s of mirrors 🧐
A solar oven will not work in the Alps in winter. Perhaps two hours per week. Sun is too weak and the days are too short. Wood is already getting short here – and here everything is full of trees.
There is no way to overcome any supply crunches in cities. It is not possible to transport highly caloric grain more than 15kms per ox, because after that distance the ox will need more food than it carries. It might be a bit better with locations on a river.
Most cities have a handfull of outward roads only. Be sure bandoleros will wait for your gold teeth when you hike out for water.
After the end of BAU distance will provide security. It is hard to march 100kms. Mountains provide security, too, but less food. Those that still have access to Diesel will be a security threat. Those countries, that can maintain some industries can easily conquer those that cannot – and take their resources.