The World Economy Is Becoming Unglued; Models Miss Real-World Behavior

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A common belief is that if the world does not have adequate energy, the result will be high prices. These high prices will allow more fossil fuels to be extracted or will allow renewables to substitute for fossil fuels.

In my view, the real issue is quite different: Inadequate energy supply of the types the economy requires can be expected to affect the economy in a way that causes it to become “unglued.” The economy will gradually fall apart as infighting becomes more of a problem. Goods won’t necessarily be high-priced; many simply won’t be available at any price. Political parties will fragment. Conflict within countries, such as the recent Wagner conflict with the military leadership in Russia, will become more common.

It has become fashionable to use models to predict the future, but simple models do not consider real-world dynamics. They don’t consider the importance of already existing infrastructure and the types of energy products this infrastructure requires. They don’t consider the importance of continuing food production. They don’t consider the dynamics of “not enough goods and services to go around.”

In this post, I will look at some pieces of evidence that suggest we should expect the world economy to become unglued as limits are hit. A corollary is that we cannot expect a transition to a world powered by renewables to work.

[1] It is easy to show that the energy supplies of a finite world will eventually fall short.

Anyone can model the energy supplies of a finite world as a bucket of sand and a scooper. If the scooper is used to remove the sand from the bucket, it will eventually become empty. If we start with a larger bucket of sand, perhaps the process can be delayed. Or, if we use a smaller scooper, the process will be delayed. But the result will be the same.

Back in 1957, Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a speech in which he said,

For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost, are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.

In this speech, Rickover pointed out the importance of fossil fuels to maintain our standard of living and to win wars. It was clear to the military that fossil fuel energy supplies were tremendously important in preventing future problems for the economy.

[2] History shows that economies tend to grow and eventually collapse.

Economies tend to operate in cycles, as illustrated in Figure 1.

Figure 1. My chart of the findings of Peter Turchin and Surgey Nefedov in their 2009 book, Secular Cycles.

The eight economies analyzed by Turchin and Nefedov moved into a new area or acquired a new energy resource. These economies tended to grow for a long periods, well over 100 years, until the populations hit the carrying capacity of the available resources. These economies were able to work around these resource limits during a period of Stagflation, which typically lasted about 50 to 60 years. Eventually, the problems became too great to be overcome. A Crisis Period of falling population and GDP, lasting 20 to 50 years, typically ensued.

[3] The world economy today seems to be following a similar cycle based on its use of fossil fuels. In fact, we seem to be in the Crisis Period of such a cycle.

Today’s fossil fuel-based world economy started growing at varying times, in various places around the world, becoming well established by the early 1800s. It seems to have hit a Stagflation Period between 1970 and 1980. Recent patterns in oil supply per capita, interest rates, and debt levels suggest to me that the world economy has entered the Crisis Period of the current cycle.

To me, oil supply, particularly crude oil supply, is exceptionally important in keeping the economy growing because it is heavily used in producing the food supply and transporting it to market. In fact, it is heavily used in transportation of all kinds. We can see what is going wrong by looking at the trend in crude oil per capita (blue line on Figure 2).

Figure 2. World oil supply per capita based on data of the US Energy Information Administration.

On Figure 2, a line is drawn at 2005, when many people believe that peak “conventional” oil was reached. The line at 2009 points out the long-term slide in oil consumption per capita between 2005 and 2009, related at least in part to the Great Recession of 2008-2009. There was another steep drop in crude oil per capita in 2020, and this drop has not been made up. Cutbacks in drilling and low oil prices suggest that per capita consumption may never recover to the 2018 level.

US interest rates over time indicate a clear up and down pattern, with increases to 1981, and mostly decreases since then (Figure 3). Raising interest rates is like putting brakes on the economy because it makes monthly payments on loans higher. Lowering interest rates is like pressing on the accelerator.

Figure 3. Interest rates of 3-month Treasury Bills, 10-year Treasury Securities, and 30-year Fixed Rate Mortgages, based on information of the Federal Reserve of Saint Louis.

The US was in a Stagflation Period after 1980. Lower interest rates helped push the economy along, at least until they could go no lower. The first place falling interest rates stalled was in 2008, when they hit zero for the shortest-term debt. About the beginning of 2021, interest rates started to rise, to try to stop inflation.

At the same time, the US’s ability to add to debt, except US government debt, seems to have stalled about 2008 and again in 2021.

Figure 4. US ratios of debt to GDP by sector based on data from the Federal Reserve of St. Louis database. Amounts for total debt and for Households (which includes not-for-profits, such as churches), Business Non-Financial, and Federal Government are from this database. Financial+ is calculated by subtraction.

The combination of Figures 2, 3, and 4 suggests that the world economy has been on shaky ground since 2008. The US economy has been operating with incredibly low interest rates. If the world loses the ability to hide energy problems behind ever-lower interest and ever-higher debt, (particularly government debt), many parts of the economy could start coming apart.

[4] The world’s total energy supply must increase at least as fast as population to keep the economy growing and away from collapse.

A couple of years ago, I did an analysis of the growth in energy consumption compared to the growth of population over the period 1820 to 2020. I found that when energy consumption was rising faster than population, there tended to be a rise in standards of living. When energy consumption grew only as fast as population, problematic things (such as wars and governmental collapses) tended to happen (Figure 5).

Figure 5. Chart by Gail Tverberg using data from several sources, in energy data from Vaclav Smil’s estimates from Energy Transitions: History, Requirements and Prospects, together with BP Statistical Data for 1965 and subsequent.

On Figure 5, the sum of red and blue areas represents world energy consumption growth by 10-year periods. The blue areas represent population growth percentages during these 10-year periods. The red area is determined by subtraction. It represents the amount of energy consumption growth that is “left over” for growth in standards of living. When growth in energy consumption was inadequate, wars tended to take place, and the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union took place.

We are now at a point where energy consumption may decrease dramatically in future years, especially if we attempt to convert to a system based on intermittent wind and solar. The drop in energy consumption, relative to population, would likely be far worse than any situation we have experienced in the past. Besides being inadequate in quantity, wind and solar are not adapted to handling our most basic need, which is for providing the inputs farmers require to provide us with food.

[5] A key to understanding the role of fuels of the right kinds is understanding the physics-based way that the economy operates.

The economy is very much like the human body. The operation of both is governed by the laws of physics. The human body needs to consume a variety of food products. Alternative foods can be substituted, but the overall quantity of food needs to be sufficient for the population and their level of activity.

Likewise, the world economy requires a variety of energy products to operate. Substitutions can sometimes be made, but the overall quantity must be sufficient to support the activities of the economy, including providing adequate food and water for the population and ways to transport these items to the population that needs them.

There are other similarities, as well. Humans start out as small babies. Eventually, humans grow old. In the years leading up to death, they often become frail. The cycle downward at the end of an economy’s life is somewhat similar. Economies, even the world economy, cannot last forever.

[6] To build and maintain cities, it is necessary for energy to be easily storable.

In his book, Against the Grain, the American political scientist James C. Scott points out that in order for governments to grow and to provide infrastructure for cities, it is necessary to tax farmers. Grain is ideal for this; taxing a root crop such as sweet potatoes does not work well. Root crops are hard to see when they are growing. They also are harder to transport and store.

Clearly, farmers must have a surplus of storable energy to make cities and good roads work. They must be able to produce this surplus energy in a sufficiently profitable way that governments can tax it and use the proceeds for the benefit of the overall population.

I think that excess storable energy is the true “net energy” that some authors write about. A city cannot operate only when the wind happens to be blowing or the sun happens to be shining. Everyone would clog the roads at the same time, trying to get to a job that might last only a few minutes. Even today, if a city is to have electricity when it is needed, even in winter, there needs to be a storable supply of fuel to provide this electricity. Batteries cannot provide this level of storage; we would run out of materials.

Cities are essential for the sharing of ideas and for the operation of major industries.

We can have an economy of hunter-gatherers running on intermittent energy alone. We might even be able to have cities based on stored grain, as civilizations did in the past. But the population would need to be far less than today’s 8 billion.

[7] Both energy density and storability are needed if the world’s population is to be fed.

A farmer needs machines that are not so heavy that they will sink into the soil. Soil compaction is also an issue with heavy machines. If soil is compacted, water cannot make its way through the pores properly. Rain will tend to run off, causing erosion, instead of sinking in, to provide longer-term benefit. Soil compaction is already a problem with today’s large machinery. Less dense fuels, or the use of heavy battery packs, will make the problem even worse.

Energy dense fuel is also needed for the transportation of food. In fact, energy dense fuel, such as diesel or jet fuel, is used in nearly all of today’s very large vehicles. Heavy vehicles operated in situations that require very large bursts of power especially need energy dense fuel. Examples include semi-trailer trucks, buses that drive up steep hills, airplanes that need bursts of power to take off, agricultural vehicles that might get stuck in mud, and vehicles used in construction and road making.

Trains operating on smooth tracks, with limited gradients, don’t need the same bursts of power, so they are sometimes electric. Boats don’t generally need large bursts of power, but boats generally use an energy-dense liquid fuel to propel them on long journeys. Storing enough electricity in batteries to power such long journeys would be impractical.

The recently published 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy (now produced by the Energy Institute, instead of BP) shows that the heavier, more energy-dense types of burnable oil have been falling as a share of the world’s oil supply.

Figure 6. Chart shows that more energy dense types of oil products (sum of diesel, jet fuel/kerosene, and fuel oil) have been falling relative to the world supply of diesel or total liquids oil. All amounts used in the calculation are from EI’s 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy, except for world crude oil for 1980 through 1999, which is based on EIA data.

These heavier grades are the ones best suited to essential future energy needs, and they seem to be depleting the most quickly.

[8] Added complexity is deceptive. It looks like it can save energy, but it tends to increase wage disparities and makes the overall system more fragile.

Added complexity for an economy includes changes such as more built infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges), larger businesses, more specialization of workers, more international trade, and longer supply chains. It is easy for modelers to assume that these changes have no energy cost, but in reality, they do.

Changes enabling growing complexity go hand in hand with more debt and more financialization of the economy. With greater complexity, owners and managers of businesses, as well as highly trained workers, tend to receive a disproportionate share of the wealth. This means that little is left over for non-elite workers. These wage and wealth disparities lead to the unhappiness of the lower-paid workers. This is especially the case during economic downturns.

With added complexity, the system becomes more fragile. Supply lines become longer, so missing parts are more likely to be a problem. Repair parts for wind turbines may become unavailable, for example. The US grid would need massive improvements to handle the proposed increase in wind and solar power, and the demands of EVs. All of the simultaneous commodity demands may become too much for suppliers to meet.

Even changes in financial systems could be a serious problem. With the conflict over the SWIFT money processing system, will one group of countries start using a different financial exchange program, such as Iran’s financial messaging system SEPAM? Will Western nations find themselves cut off from purchasing inputs they depend upon?

[9] Modeling underlying the analysis for the 1972 book The Limits to Growth shows that (total materials required for reinvestment each year) as a percentage of (total economic output) is an important limit.

Somehow, the economy must provide enough goods and services both for the needs of the current members of the economy and for the investment needed to keep the system operating in the future.

The economy is squeezed in three different ways:

  • The population keeps growing, and each person needs food, clothing, and a variety of services.
  • Resources of all kinds (not just fossil fuels) become more difficult to extract due to depletion. More of the output of the economy needs to go into investment, just to get the same quantity of copper, lithium, nickel, and minerals of all kinds, including fossil fuels.
  • With the rising population and increasing resource use, pollution becomes a bigger problem. Mitigation efforts lead to a need to use more resources to keep pollution away from humans.

To keep the system operating, we cannot spend very much on the combination of resource extraction and pollution control, or there will not be enough resources left to meet the needs of the growing population.

This combination limit tells me is that a rapid transition of any kind toward any new energy type, even toward the use of “green energy,” is not likely to work well. There is a reason why past transitions to new energy types have been very slow. The economy cannot invest enough without starving other parts of the economy.

Some people have interpreted this combination limit as an Energy Return on Energy Investment limit of perhaps 10:1, but it seems to me to be a far more serious limit than this. At a minimum, all types of resources, including those for backup batteries and additional long distance transmission lines, must be included in any calculation for renewables.

Also, to keep the system operating, any shift from fossil fuels to renewables cannot have a delayed payback period, relative to fossil fuels, or the huge up-front investment will become a problem. The up-front investment in renewables will be higher, but there will not be enough output to support the economy. The “real” economy does not operate on an accrual basis; people need to eat every day, and aluminum smelters expect to operate every day.

As I mentioned previously, renewables aren’t really helpful for growing food. Nor are reliable enough to power aluminum smelters, so there is a real issue as to whether they should even be considered as possible substitutes for fossil fuels. They are simply add-ons to the fossil fuel system to avoid having to talk about our fossil fuel supply problems. Reframing the issue as “wanting to move away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change” saves having to talk about the inadequate fossil fuel supply problem, and the fact that fossil fuels are what make today’s lifestyle possible.

[10] Energy prices must be both high enough for producers to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford goods made with these energy products.

It is the conflict between the needs of consumers and producers that tends to bring fossil fuel energy production down. Consumers say, “We can’t stand oil (or natural gas or electricity) prices this high, and demand that politicians hold prices down.” In fact, this just recently happened in Australia with natural gas prices. Without an adequate profit motive, drillers cut back on drilling and production falls.

Renewables have gotten mandates and subsidies, especially the subsidy of going first on the electric grid. It is these subsidies and mandates that have made investments in wind turbines and solar panels attractive. Once governments have more financial problems and these subsidies disappear, owners are likely to stop making repairs to these systems. They will not last longer than fossil fuel-based systems, in my opinion.

[11] Conclusion: We are in uncharted territory.

I mentioned that the Great Recession of 2008-2009 seemed to mark the beginning of the downturn. More financial problems are no doubt ahead, but other kinds of strange events may also occur.

It seems possible that Covid, its vaccines, and the restrictions in 2020 may even have been part of the “ungluing.” Self-organizing physics-based systems act strangely. World oil supply started declining in 2019. Militaries around the world have been concerned about fossil fuel limits for many years. Militaries have also been deeply involved with germ warfare. Economies around the world were experiencing financial problems. The shutdowns conveniently reduced demand and prices for oil, while giving economies around the world an excuse for more debt. The problems were kicked down the road until 2022 and 2023, when they reappeared as inflation.

We can’t know what lies ahead, but it may be very strange, indeed.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,059 Responses to The World Economy Is Becoming Unglued; Models Miss Real-World Behavior

  1. Fast Eddy says:

    https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/geert-why-havent-your-predictions-a22/

    aj
    21 min ago
    omg. My older sister has taken 5 injections. Every time she gets sick, it is a little worse than the previous time. This last one really wiped her out for more than a week.

  2. Fast Eddy says:

    norm got played haha— hahah— ha https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81104

    keith too .. and mike hahahaha- haha

  3. Fast Eddy says:

    ORKestrated https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81103

    Amazing but every person watching this will think not (1500HP is a weapon)

  4. Tim Groves says:

    This stuff is really hot! Brighter than a thousand suns! Hydrogen bombs going bang!

    Raw footage of yer five biggest blasts recorded in yer actual H-Bomb tests!

    Hopefully not coming to a city anywhere near you any time soon, but these days you never know.

  5. Fast Eddy says:

    Binance executives quit as problems mount at crypto firm

    Several top executives have quit cryptocurrency firm Binance, as the company faces a widening net of legal probes across the world.

    The firm is one of the biggest left in the crypto industry, which has seen a string of scandals, hacks and thefts and suffered plummeting values across the board.

    Two US financial regulators are suing Binance and reports say the Justice Department is also probing the firm and its boss, Changpeng Zhao, over money laundering and sanctions busting.

    A report in Fortune magazine linked the executives’ walkout to Zhao’s handling of those claims.

    But Binance’s strategy chief Patrick Hillmann and compliance executive Steven Christie wrote on Twitter that they were leaving for family reasons.

    Hillmann wrote that he was leaving “on good terms”, adding that he would “continue to respect and support” Zhao, still a central figure for the industry.

    https://insiderpaper.com/binance-executives-quit-as-problems-mount-at-crypto-firm/

    family reasons… ok… multiple people … all have family reasons… DUH

    • If banks are having problems and cryptocurrency is designed to look in some ways like real currency, won’t cryptocurrency have problems as well?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The central banks will organize bail outs/take overs of the likes of Credit Suisse… and they may or may not make depositors whole with ‘real banks’…

        But they will most definitely not send the white knight to help the cryptos…. if anything they will stick a knife in their hearts to put them down

  6. Fast Eddy says:

    DECLINED COVID INJECTION MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS IN NZ..

    I have decided to start sharing (with anonymising to protect the identity of the writer) some of the TWO THOUSAND emails i received when i called out to New Zealanders #nz who had their MEDICAL EXEMPTIONS DECLINED #CovidVaccines by Ashley Bloomfield

    These people applied for exemptions based on pre existing medical conditions, or having experienced a serious adverse event following their first #CovidVaccines

    A declined exemption caused them to lose their jobs, professions, university places, homes, marriages, sanity, trust, and more. I hold the original email with identity and contact details for each of these stories.

    To follow this series search #declinedexemptions

    Report number eleven…

    I am an Ambulance officer as a qualified Emergency Medical Technician for the past *** (almost 10) years.

    Prior to the current events I was working on the day of the mass shooting and I was one of the first responders on the ground. I was inside Al Noor Mosque, Deans Ave Christchurch receiving our seriously injured status 1 patient. I had armed offender personnel protecting me physically from threat and harm while I was inside. I thought I was going to die.

    As a result of my trauma I had severe PTSD With hard work , help from professionals and a positive mindset, I finally got back to work. A job I just loved. Making a difference to lives of my patients.
    I was doing good

    I was witnessing vaccine injuries on the Ambulance on call outs, however we weren’t allowed to speak out.

    It then started to become traumatising for me as I couldn’t advocate for my patients who were injured. I was seeing heart palpitations in young people , severe tremors in a young 12 year old 2 days after her 2nd injection, heart problems in previously well patients after their jabs increase of stroke call outs, blood clots and finally the feeling like going to die.

    Our prime minister mandated my job. Adding further to my distress.
    Our Prime minister had stated previously we would not be mandated.

    My Doctor had given me a signed medical exemption prior
    The new ruling came out which disallowed Doctor signed medical exemptions.

    Ashley refused my exemption – my Dr was unable to even get my application through due to the criteria that was required.

    I went into a state of panic and a relapse of my previous 100% work related PTSD.

    I Feel like the government mandate is trying to kill me.

    I was put back onto ACC with previous work related PTSD

    Regardless , I was still terminated in my time of severe distress after I was put back on sick leave.

    I feel scared
    I feel traumatised
    I feel victimised
    I feel like I’m going to die if forced.

    I have personal allergies to foods and medications.

    In my career , if one was unable to take a certain medication, another option would be made available
    It was always about informed consent.

    Now I’m terminated

    I have nothing

    St John have removed my qualifications from me

    I feel worthless
    I struggle with getting out of the house
    My mental health is not good.

    I want my life back
    Helping others and making a positive difference in the lives of others.
    I love people and they love me back.

    It’s not how I am right now though.

    #nz #pfizer #mandates #informedconsent #covidvaccines #declinedexemptions

    mike… do you feel as if you have dodged a bullet so far?

    • Xabier says:

      Similar in the UK, but rather more sneaky in the usual English way: GP’s could only recommend exemptions, which then went to processing centres where the staff worked hard to find the right ‘safe’ vaxx for the applicant. So, effectively exemptions were banned, but not formally.

      I’ve mentioned before the wife of a friend who suffered a clot from the first AZ shot.

      She applied for a permanent exemption after that, the GP said ‘It’s more than my job’s worth!’ and, because thy had a skiing holiday booked, they both tried Pfizer. No obvious harm so far……but the hidden brain damage was obviously rather deep.

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    Excellent!!! I betcha it produces forever

    NEW STUDY FINDS SPIKE EXPRESSING SIX MONTHS POST INJECTION…

    Will the #nz Ministry of Health finally change their stance that the covid vaccine induced mrna (and the spike protein it produces) is gone from the body in 2 to 3 days?

    The spike is the TOXIN. It’s the bit that does all the harm…both from infection and injection.

    What are the implications of #mrna still producing spike proteins 6 months after an injection?

    When you are also being urged to take the NEXT injection 6 months after the one before..

    the implications are that you are NEVER free of damaging, toxic, spike protein circulating in your body.

    YOU ARE A MASSIVE TICKING TIME BOMB EXPERIMENT

    Will MOH finally change their website??

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1677071307777646594

    • Xabier says:

      We should recall that the original plan with the vax passports was about 8 consecutive shots in a row: giving one a good chance of getting one of the ‘hot shots’. Who first called it ‘Vaccine Roulette’?

  8. Fast Eddy says:

    NZ RUGBY PLAYERS COLLAPSING AND DYING… Have you noticed all the healthy athletes around the world collapsing on the pitch?

    Here in #nz we have had 2 unexpected sudden deaths in Rugby players and 2 more plays suffer collapses and seizures on the field….in the past 2 weeks

    The International Olympic Committee, Switzerland studied the incidence of sudden death in athletes under the age of 35, from 1966 to 2004.

    They found an average of 29 such deaths per year.

    Since the roll out of the #mrna #covidvaccines and the widespread (often mandated) injecting of athletes, there have been:

    1884 CARDIAC ARRESTS

    1310 DEATHS

    This is not normal

    Neither is the collapse and or death of 4 of our super fit healthy rugby players in the space of just 2 weeks in New Zealand

    https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/

  9. Tim Groves says:

    Norman’s heartthrob Jen (who is sadly missed in the briefing room by all of us) confirms that cluster bombs are illegal and using them potentially be a war crime.

    https://rumble.com/v2yq6ry-jen-psaki-2022-if-the-russians-used-cluster-ammunition-its-a-war-crime-but-.html

  10. Ed says:

    In youtube there is a class of videos where a commentator mocks criminals stupid enough to get shot dead by police. The muslin 19 year old in the yellow Mercedes with polish plates in Paris is held at rifle gun point by a police-person. The Muslim is seated in the drivers seat. The cop is standing outside the car pointing the gun at the windshield toward the thief’s heart. The thief attempt to do a runna. The cop pulls the trigger protecting himself and others.

    The way the french media portrays it is poor Muslim child is gunned down by brutal cop. No mention of stolen car. No mention of trying to run for it.

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    Don’t slam the vax injury cancer lady to the ground! https://t.me/leaklive/15037

    PR Team meeting Re Operation Demoralization — ok who are the biggest freaks in society?

    Transgenders aka Tranny Freaks.

    Ok now let’s inject them into the narrative using the most f789ed up ideas you can think of like having them read to kids… and flash their ball sacks while they dance and sing (and parents clap hands)

  12. Fast Eddy says:

    D- Flation https://t.me/EdwardDowdReal/155

  13. Ed says:

    Colonel Macgregor thinks senile Joe will be gone by the end of the year.

    Who represents US in Vilnius? Kamala, I hope. She is so funny.

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      whoa, 3 days until Vilnius!

      I’m having trouble getting a good night’s sleep lately.

      the excitement is swiftly building.

      “Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq.” – Joe Bidet.

      so Putin better watch out after Vilnius.

      Joe Bidet.

      Vlad the Great.

  14. hkeithhenson says:

    From Science, July 7

    In Depth | Covid-19
    Studies probe COVID-19 shots’ link to rare symptoms
    In Section In Depth | Covid-19
    Details emerge for uncommon cases of neurologic complications, blood pressure swings, and other side effects

    COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of lives, and the world is gearing up for a new round of boosters. But like all vaccines, those targeting the coronavirus can cause side effects in some people, including rare cases of abnormal blood clotting and heart inflammation. Another apparent complication, a debilitating suite of symptoms that resembles Long Covid, has been more elusive, its link to vaccination unclear and its diagnostic features ill-defined. But in recent months, what some call Long Vax has gained wider acceptance among doctors and scientists, and some are now working to better understand and treat its symptoms.

    “You see one or two patients and you wonder if it’s a coincidence,” says Anne Louise Oaklander, a neurologist and researcher at Harvard Medical School. “But by the time you’ve seen 10, 20,” she continues, trailing off. “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

    Cases seem very rare—far less common than Long Covid after infection. Symptoms can include persistent headaches, severe fatigue, and abnormal heart rate and blood pressure. They appear hours, days, or weeks after vaccination and are difficult to study. But researchers and clinicians are increasingly finding some alignment with known medical conditions. One is small fiber neuropathy, a condition Oaklander studies, in which nerve damage can cause tingling or electric shock–like sensations, burning pain, and blood circulation problems. The second is a more nebulous syndrome, with symptoms sometimes triggered by small fiber neuropathy, called postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS). It can involve muscle weakness, swings in heart rate and blood pressure, fatigue, and brain fog.

    Patients with postvaccination symptoms may have features of one or both conditions, even if they don’t meet the criteria for a diagnosis. Both are also common in patients with Long Covid, where they’re often attributed to an immune overreaction.

    [few paragraphs left out]

    SCIENCE FIRST wrote about these health concerns in January 2022, describing efforts by scientists at the National Institutes of Health to study and treat affected individuals (28 January 2022, p. 364). A study including 23 people was posted as a preprint in May 2022 but never published. Following Science’s story, almost 200 people contacted the journal sharing their postvaccination symptoms.

    (This is about a quarter of the article. If you can’t get it on line and want to see the rest, ask. If you have been vaccinated and don’t have problems, you are lucky, but not very lucky since the vaccine seems to cause problems for around one person in a million.)

    • Fast Eddy says:

      “The COVID Vaccines Saved Millions of Lives”
      A test of the hypothesis – and a parable about falling off a ship.

      https://metatron.substack.com/p/the-covid-vaccines-saved-millions

      keith Joel is a scientist… please read the article then in the comments and here — tell us what is wrong with his analysis …

      Don’t pull a norm on us keith — the OFW world is watching

      • Xabier says:

        Dear old Keith and Norm never, ever go near these issues, and yet somehow wish us to take their intellects seriously; even, in Norm’s case, pronouncing upon immutable (because he discovered them) ‘laws’ of history, when he can’t look squarely at some uncomfortable facts supported by ample and multiplying evidence.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          the hallmark of a f789ing id iot … is refusing to look at facts and logic.

          • Xabier says:

            It’s worth noting that Mike Yeadon readily admits that he was taken in by the ‘pandemic’ scam at first, until he changed his mind to accord with the evidence – true intellect.

            It’s rather unfortunate that he persists in being energy-blind, which shows that even the brightest can find some things one step too far; principally because they can destroy all hope – and we can’t live for even one day without that.

      • postkey says:

        “The data itself shows no reduction in covid or death”
        The last American vagabond video at 27:57 : ?
        https://www.flemingmethod.com/select-videos

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      K thinks that because the magazine is named Science, we should trust its articles completely, and never question if its leadership has been corrrupted into toeing the line for the “official” narrative that the vaxxes are safe and effective.

      apparently to many people, “scientists” are 100% incorrruptible and are just far superior to all other fallible human beings.

      the naivety is truly staggering.

      (gee K, I know 4 or 5 people who have had serious health conditions appear directly after being jabbed. How can that be? Do I know 4 or 5 million people personally?)

    • Xabier says:

      The very definition of a ‘limited hangout’: concede some harm, but understate it grossly. And ‘Long Covid’ is more dangerous? – hilarious!

      So, they want the injured to mutter as they lie prostrate their lives ruined ‘I was just really, really unlucky I guess’.

      And you know, I bet it works, because no one can think these days.

      In reality, deaths run at 1,000 per million, and serious harm in tens of thousands – at a minimum.

      • Xabier says:

        That’s tens of thousands per million, to be clear.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        the silver lining is that they respond by taking more boosters… for better protect.

        Can you believe some of these clowns are on 6 or 7 shots hahahah…

        And it’s generally the older fools even though as we know — vaccines don’t work very well on burned out geriatrics hahahaha

        • Xabier says:

          What I find interesting as that with the first boosters – shot no 3 – which were meant for all of us to ‘end the pandemic’, the propaganda in the media was non-stop, with reports on what % had been done, how close to the target, etc.

          Now, they are just very quietly sticking them in the very elderly – 75 and over – and ‘vulnerable’, with nothing in the media.

          I assume they are going meekly to their doom, and no propaganda is needed. No doubt those in care homes get no say in the matter.

          • Xabier says:

            They trained the elderly well here over decades with the annual flu shot.

            And the medics, too, who are expected to take them.

            • Artleads says:

              What you say about Yeadon not able to grasp the utter futility of the situation fits my view of what’s happening around me. So now I have to find something to enjoy about suffering and hopelessness.

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    More Mega Mass D

    https://youtu.be/AZ2rqlpd1_w

  16. Ed says:

    Un-elected Joe says he will give Israeli style security to Ukraine until it is a NATO member. I guess that mean unlimited money, weapons, intel. Does Kiev have a wall all the DC pols can go and kiss?

    • Mike Roberts says:

      If, by “Joe”, you mean Joe Biden, he got 7 million more votes than Trump and more votes in the Electoral College (similar to the margin Trump got in 2016). So the alleged “un-elected” meme is purely on the basis of what Trump himself keeps saying, without any supporting evidence whatsoever. It’s amazing that so many still claim to go along with that lie.

      • Vern Baker says:

        Chill out

      • Fast Eddy says:

        come on man… stick with what you know… getting boosters to get around bahahahahahaha

      • Ed says:

        Let’s talk about the treasonous bribes Joey took from the communist Chinese.

        Let’s talk about Hunters pedo sex with young Chinese girls.

        Let’s talk about Hunter snorting coke on the white house portico on the 4th.

        Let’s talk a bout the bribes Hunter took from the Ukrainian energy company.

        • lol

          First his dad is showering with ….whoever

          i never knew about the chinese girls

          learn stuff every day on OFW

        • Fast Eddy says:

          My favourite is Joe showering with his pubescent daughter… and her writing in a diary that she was creeped out and scared

      • repeat BS long enough and it will become true

        at least thats the theory—-you should know that by now Mike

        • Fast Eddy says:

          You’d think people would not vote for someone who showered with his daughter.

          • just did a mass-delete of about 50 unread eddies–hmmm–eddy the unready—as my years grow short i have to ration time to worthwhile endeavours.

            opened the last one out of curiousity

            sure enough—eddy’s there again obsessing

            you really should keep your fantasiies to yourself eddy—there’s stuff most of your fellow inmate would rather not know about.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You do understand that Fast Eddy’s mockery of you is aimed at the entire OFW audience… and they are not mass deleting.

              All deleting does is leave you wondering why everyone is laughing at you

              In any event we know you love your Huff so why don’t you use the extra time to be further indoctrinated with rubbish… throw in some bbc when you finish up

              Long live the NOF!
              Long live the NOF!

            • eddy

              i think you\re gonna need a bigger wall

              and more chalk

            • Mike Roberts says:

              My notification filter gets rid of all of Eddy’s comments and all replies to Eddy’s comments (it’s unlkely that he’s written anything of interest to me). I only saw yours because someone else replied to my comment and I then saw an avalanche of nonsense from FE. Thank goodness I don’t see them very often.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              If Fast Eddy was concerned about you deleting his comments… he’d create a new user name to use when addressing you mike…

              But the thing is…

              He is not concerned. We are all just waiting to see who crashes with a vax injury first.

            • Mike

              tell me how that filter works—i’ve never bothered to do it, but I know I should—would save my delete finger a lot of wear and tear

              thanks—would be much obliged.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You may as well delete all the comments and just read and plagiarize the articles… cuz it’s getting to the point where every second comment involves mockery of you…

              That’s cuz you are illogical and King NOF. And you support Joe who is a major pedo. And you had your grand kids injected.

              What’s next norm — raciss comments?

            • Mike Roberts says:

              It depends on the email program you use, Norman. I use Thunderbird to process the feed, though I don’t get all of them, for some reason. I can set a filter to run against any folder, with as many filter criteria as I need to target the comments I need to delete. Then I can set any of a number of actions for the filtered comments (e.g. delete).

              I use Thunderbird to process feeds but I’m sure there are many others. What do you use for feeds? If you simply use the “Notify me of new comments” option then, again, you can set a filter to target the folder those notifications come into.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              hahahaha… norm has 7 shots of Rat Juice in his brain – you think he can figure that out????

              How many shots has mike had?

      • drb753 says:

        As a former Detroit resident, I can attest to the avalanche of Detroit votes late at night, turning the tide for the whole of Michigan. This destroyed all records of Detroit fraction of Michigan votes, and was enough to turn the tide, after Trump was leading until about midnight.

        • I remember watching the votes in the evening and thinking that certainly Trump will win.

          We had also heard/seen stories about ballots from nursing homes and similar institutions being “harvested” and all voted for the preferred candidate, which seemed to be Biden.

          • Mike Roberts says:

            It’s not over till it’s over. If the ongoing count wasn’t publicized, you’d only get the final vote, instead of the ups and downs depending on the order in which different areas get counted. Regardless, there were no legal challenges to the result that had any validity. A 7 million margin is pretty decisive. If the US had a one person one vote presidential election, there would be no argument. But some people imagine they KNOW that, somehow, the count was manipulated. Strange that the guy in power at the time couldn’t even do that.

            • drb753 says:

              Stalin described this very situation long ago. It does not matter one way or another.

    • The Biden Admin is Sending 10,000 Cluster Bombs, Which Are Banned in Most of the World, to Ukraine

      “More than 120 countries have banned these munitions as inhumane and indiscriminate”

      https://twitter.com/thechiefnerd/status/1677438614202986496

      • Ed says:

        Scott Ritter says these munitions are good for use against a mass troop formation. They are worthless against entrenched troops such as the Russian are currently. It is pure PR.

        Not to mention these are old 1987 version likely to have an even higher rate of duds that lay dormant waiting to blow some kids leg off. Why not the best for the Kashari warlords of Ukraine?

  17. Fast Eddy says:

    hey keith … we are just trying to save you from yourself https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81074

    norm… we don’t really care what norm does … he’s a NOF

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Ah ha…. immune exhaustion … that’s why the Vaxxers are getting so sick with flu colds etc….

    hahahahaha…. GREAT! They’ve f789ed themselves.

    If you’re happy and you know it clap your hands.. stomp your feet …

    keith – science!!!

    https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/geert-why-havent-your-predictions-a22

  19. Fast Eddy says:

    This would provide a good estimate of how many Vaxxers are wrecked since injecting Rat Juice – a lot more just ‘don’ feel right’

    All are doomed

    The best thing is they believe it’s long covid so they … wait for it …

    Take more boosters hahahahahahahaahahahahaa

    ‘Long Vax’ Enters Mainstream Conversation: Harvard and Yale Investigate Its Liked to the Shots

    Some 11% of previously-infected Americans are still reporting long COVID symptoms. You have to wonder, how much of that 11% is actually “long vax” instead?

    Article: https://bit.ly/44flsG2

    • Xabier says:

      ‘I know a guy with terrible Long Covid: when am I going to get my booster! I need the protection!’ etc.

  20. Fast Eddy says:

    Mass D architects >>> Fauci and Friends …. guys can you insert some sh*t into the Rat Juice that causes cancer strokes clots brain damage etc..

    We can do that … no problem.

    But we dont want it in every shot — let’s say 1 in a 100 or so … otherwise the MORE-ONS will realize it’s not safe — and they’ll stop taking it…

    Sure no problem – we can do that. Consider it done

    Before their emergency authorisation, Dr Yeadon warned the European Medicines Agency that these gene-based vaccines were not safe. Since then he has come to believe in a sinister agenda behind their determined rollout. What follows is the part of the podcast where James questions him on this. Mike explains rational drug design and how he saw obvious ‘designed-in’ toxicities in the mRNA and DNA Covid ‘vaccines’.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mike-yeadon-on-the-toxicities-deliberately-designed-into-the-covid-vaccines/

    👉 https://t.me/DrMikeYeadon

    The Conservative Woman (https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mike-yeadon-on-the-toxicities-deliberately-designed-into-the-covid-vaccines/)
    Mike Yeadon on the toxicities deliberately designed into the Covid ‘vaccines’ – The Conservative Woman

    • Good explanations in the Conservative Woman article:

      Regarding making the virus in the human body:

      your immune system, when you were being developed as a foetus, all of the components of your body were being introduced to the components of your immune system, which are being formed by some, like, random selection at binding sites. And basically it was like, ‘This is James, this is James, this is James – don’t attack it.’ So by the time you were born, you had a very powerful immune system that would attack anything that wasn’t James, but which leaves James or ‘self’ alone. So when you’re injected with something that made your cells manufacture a non-self protein – because that’s what a viral protein is – guess what your immune system did to every single cell in your body that took that diabolical stuff up and made non-self protein – I’m afraid the answer is autoimmune lethal attack.

      Regarding the lipid nanoparticles:

      The second part is, at least in the case of the Moderna and Pfizer products, they are wrapped in what are called lipid nanoparticles. They’re quite funky. They essentially mimic the fatty outer coating of yourself. Your body is divided into tiny compartments called cells. They’re so small you need a microscope to see them. But, you know, that’s what they are. They’re like little bubbles or balloons, and they’re surrounded by a lipid bilayer – that’s its cell membrane. And it allows itself to regulate what’s inside compared with outside. So lipid nanoparticles look a bit like that. And so they just, in a stealthy fashion, go all the way around your body and slide into various cells. And if you didn’t have something like that, your body would recognise and destroy the foreign genetic information. I mean, it’s not surprising. Your genetic inheritance is the thing that you would want to preserve, right? If you’re going to have offspring, you don’t want your own genetic inheritance to be coloured by foreign DNA and RNA. And so we’ve got extraordinarily good systems designed to stop foreign DNA and RNA entering our cells.

      But if you coat it in this lipid that makes it look like a cell, you probably don’t notice it, by analogy you miss it, it goes past in the corner of your eye and you don’t notice. But you might think, ‘Well, that’s not evidence of depopulation.’ Ah, but I’ve got a factoid for you, James. People who work in formulations, it’s a special area, you know, formulation, R&D [research and development] is itself a discipline. It’s difficult to know how to make the right salts of a particular drug, and people become good at this stuff over decades of formulation R&D, process R&D. These departments were as big as my department, it’s that difficult.

      I happened to come across a piece of literature that was ten years old at the time of rolling out these vaccines that told us that lipid nanoparticle wrapped macromolecules – big molecules – preferentially accumulate in various organs, including the ovaries. So we knew for certain that if you wrapped the Moderna and Pfizer jabs in this stuff and then injected it into girls and women, it would accumulate in their ovaries.

      I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that’s what it’s doing. Well, why would you do that if you were trying to produce immunity to a respiratory virus? And the answer is you wouldn’t. Would you do this if you were trying to harm their fertility? Yes, you would.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Head fake .. ties in with Utopia and the depop sterilization thing…

        Keeps the mob away from the true intent…. UEP

        • Xabier says:

          Dr Yeadon is reluctant to recognise the implications of the energy situation, and the end of any possible growth, so he naturally concludes the prime motivator is historic Malthusianism.

  21. Fast Eddy says:

    Serious Mass D here https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49344

    Normal Mass D
    https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49347
    https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49348 hahaha (has to be an actor who would admit this)
    https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49355

  22. Fast Eddy says:

    A short personal report. Just in the last thirty days, my circle has experienced three sudden and unexpected medical traumas. First, my best friend from high school’s father had a hemorrhagic stroke (after six shots). He is carefully and tentatively recovering at home, having lost some of his vision and now requiring a walker.

    This week, Michelle’s step-father suffered two brain aneurisms and the doctors are discussing hospice. We think he may be better off in managed care. The situation is developing and we remain hopeful.

    Prayers for both parents are welcome and appreciated.

    In a first for my legal career, opposing counsel mysteriously disappeared from one of my cases early last month. This week I spoke to the partner who took over the case. He explained that the previous attorney had a bizarre medical incident while driving. He suddenly and unexpectedly went blind. While driving! He had to somehow carefully pull the car over and wait for help, which is extremely painful to imagine. Now, the former lawyer has recovered his sight but is on permanent disability, owing to a crippling vertigo that causes him to completely lose his balance whenever he moves his eyes.

    I’m not saying anything. I’m just saying.

    • houtskool says:

      Six shots? What a boatload of crap Eddy. As is 6000 posts a week.

    • Who wrote this originally? Or is it simply fiction?

        • I noticed this part of the article (plus some other parts you quoted elsewhere)

          The researchers demonstrated the AI’s capabilities to Bloomberg’s reporter. They loaded sixty thousand U.S. and Chinese military documents into the system, then the reporter asked it who would win in a conflict over Taiwan. Among other suggestions, the AI calmly predicted “Direct US intervention with ground, air and naval forces would probably be necessary.” It warned that the U.S. would not easily paralyze China’s military. Ultimately, the system wasn’t confident about our chances, concluding: “There is little consensus in military circles regarding the outcome of a potential military conflict between the US and China over Taiwan.”

          That’s not going to go over too well, since the Biden administration has been saying the exact opposite, that the U.S. is “confident” that it can defeat the Chinese in a Taiwanese dustup.

  23. Fast Eddy says:

    Schad on this

    Nashville nurse, TokTok star “smugnurse,” and pro-vaccine activist Kaleigh Zimmerman, 34, died suddenly and unexpectedly in May from a cerebellar and brainstem stroke and massive infection.

    After her strokes, Kaleigh was admitted to the ICU three times, but was discharged with a PICC line to treat her sudden and unexpected cranial staph infection. Here’s one of her last updates:

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb5385a1d-fee3-49b9-b249-63ebf28d3563_397x514.jpeg

    https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/confidence-friday-july-7-2023-c-and

    Of course she’s set up an online begging account — Vaxxers are truly vile pcs of sh8t.

    Doesn’t that make you sick?

  24. It seems like that not only this phase of war resembles 1918, it also resembles the last phase of Napoleonic War.

    Sergei Surovikin, despite of the rumors around him, appears to be quite strong and he has some common things as Arthur Wellesley.

    Wellesley was born in Dublin, Ireland, something he was not proud of for the rest of his life.

    Surovikin was born in Novosibirsk, Siberia, in ASIA. He was not even born in the Western World, although he also says being born in Asia doesn’t make him an Asian.

    Wellesley was hunting guerillas in India such as Tipu Sahib (who was posthumously elevated to Sultan many years after his death, although the Mysoreans actually didn’t like him too much when TS was alive) and was away from big commands for most of his life.

    Surovikin was an air force general, not really fighting real wars. He was actually on the side of the old guards when the 1991 Putsch, which went nowhere, occurred; it kind ended his career prospects until he began to make himself famous in Syria in late 2010s.

    It seems Surovikin was loyal for Putin when the Progozhin show took place, which makes him more important . Perhaps his 1991 coup experience told him not to join this show since it would end his career once for all, when he has the chance to become the next Wellington, next Zhukov and probably the Russian presidency now Progozhin is out of contention.

    In any case, it seems it is going to be he would end 100 years of Western Prosperity, and make the world safe for the mining oligarchs, oil sheiks and other peoples who are extremely unlikely to advance civilization, ending human progress once for all.

    Wellington led Europe for at least half century of stagnation,
    and Surovikin will probably lead the world for at least a millennium of stagnation.

    • Under Flowerpot says:

      Kulm. I can disagree and agree in parts with your perspectives. AI has been available for centuries. Venn and Fischer provably set probability theory backwards. Marx believes that the factory and its workers gives him his Singularity too. Markov works because it’s inherent innumeracy is constrained by theorems concerning matrix multiplication. So I am skeptical about the Singularity being Singular. It has to kinda obey predictive and/or descriptive rules we trust and those rules have been around awhile.

      However.

      My young children anachronistically were listening to Anne of Green Gables and Little House on the Prairie series and I have found myself catching very interesting impressions about public education. And my jaw dropped. The vignettes, if I can ever find them, are important. The arrogance! These authors believed that because a publicly virtuous heroine could escape nasty nasty privation that they were automatically imbued with knowing how to bring progress to other family’s children. These authors were ignorant of the causal facts of why economic progress was possible (and lucky where personal effort was rewarded) goes unremarked. That the nasty privation was avoided for important economic reasons as well as personal ones. And then the subsequent romanization of being a school teacher in order to create a state funded dowry for personal gain and post-hoc justifications for why the students were better at everyone else’s expense. Hence implying economic growth and all that, to finance more and more people making a living by making a difference they invented to causes they allege that they created..

      And in this vein, I see your points, because I know these authors were not telling the truth about public education, economic growth and taxation. And I draw the conclusion that that profession is in lust to this romance captured in a hyper-banality; “simply” and “innocently” straw-manning rural values for so very long.

      • Most of Little House on the Prairie was actually written by Rose Wilder Lane, who was a libertarian to the bone. She was the last of the descendants of the family in the House; she had a son who died young, and rather than have more children to continue the line she spend the rest of her life preaching libertarian ism. (She adopted a southeast asian girl late in her life, which I don’t count since an adopted child carries the birth parents’ genes.) Interestingly , the siblings of the family who went to the prairies stayed in the city and they do have living descendants now.

        So, it was a story by someone who never really raised a child, telling others what to do. I read a bunch of libertarian books at some point of my life, and all of them are based upon growth. It had its brief use, along with Ayn Rand’s philosophy which is another dead end philosophy since she hated children and her disciples also did so, but their days are ending.

  25. Ed says:

    Where is Hunter’s stash? A new game. You and your friends hide small plastic bags with white powder (legal only flour, sugar) around town. Then the winner is the one that finds the most bags of Hunter’s stash.

    • Xabier says:

      Careful, Ed, that is getting perilously close to a thought crime, hate crime, and subverting the authority and dignity of the office of the President and his family…..

  26. Mirror on the wall says:

    Every action has an equal reaction?

    There is little point in sending UKR major kit if Russia is just going to blow up said major kit with cheap drones. But, whatever NATO wants to do.

    Zelensky is on the screen in another vid frankly assessing that the kit is anyway inadequate as the rockets cannot reach the Russia lines.

    USA is reluctant so far as to supply long range missiles to UKR as they could be used against Russian land proper and cause WWIII.

    USA hoped that Russia would fold early, or perhaps later, under sanctions pressure or through internal dissent, public or within the state, and none of that happened.

    Now, the Biden camp just does not have the front to lose face and pull the plug on UKR.

    If we all thought that Afghanistan was a stunning debacle and a massive LOL then take a look at this flop show.

    > Russia’s advanced ‘suicide’ drones have decimated Western equipment deployed by Ukraine in the ongoing war. The Russian military has been using Lancet ‘Kamikaze’ drones to destroy Ukrainian tanks, howitzers and other equipment. Moscow has ramped up use of low-cost drones capable of destroying large equipment. Watch this video to know more about Russia’s Lancet-3 Drones.

    Kyiv’s Tanks, Howitzers Blown Up: Why Russia’s Lancet Drones are a Menace for Ukraine & West

  27. Ed says:

    When will SCO come to the aid of Russia? When will BRICS come to the aid of Russia?

    • Ed says:

      and of course the UN

    • ivanislav says:

      Most BRICS nations are all looking for handouts from Russia and China to replace the IMF et al. Sort of like a Soviet Union 2.0 but without the obligations.

    • We will see. Probably when the financial system of the US and Europe implodes. In fact, part of the financial system elsewhere may implode as well. Without the US and Europe playing their earlier role, the SCO and BRICS can do more.

  28. I AM THE MOB says:

    ‘The Purge 6’ Will Remap America Into States Based on Ideology, Sexuality & Religion

    “You have your Black state, you have your gay state, you have your white evangelical state.”

    https://collider.com/the-purge-6-plot-details-james-demonaco-comments/

  29. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha the most ridiculous ‘war’ ever hahaha https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81051

    And this – remember this hahaha you are being played and mocked
    https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81051

  30. I AM THE MOB says:

    BREAKING: Reports of explosion in Zaporizhzhia

    https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1677244749911298049

    Here are live real time cams and chat.

  31. Fast Eddy says:

    That was his wife??? https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49340

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    Hoolio having a raw food snack… we trapped a young child earlier and ground it up…

    https://i.postimg.cc/nLbY4YZy/Hoolio.png

  33. Student says:

    (TRT World)

    US is complaining that in Syria a Russian jet (authorized by the Syrian government to be there) disturbed a US drone (therefore in the area that the Syrian government told the US to leave)

    https://www.trtworld.com/us-and-canada/us-claims-russian-jets-again-harassed-its-drones-in-syrias-skies-13933506

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    Odd how the pedo thing is suddenly everywhere — bigger than the illegal arms trade????

    https://youtu.be/j-vwL6-t4_0

    • Xabier says:

      Distraction, from something even bigger. Now, what can it be that They don’t want people talking about…..?

      • Fast Eddy says:

        I wonder if norm is attending the geriatric water aerobics class — 1030 in the UK… that seems about right… then he takes a 3 hour nap… wakes up – has a cuppa tea —
        he combs his hair (does norm have hair??) — puts on a bowtie … and shuffles along to the pub… 6 or 7 pints later they tell him that’s enough fook off norm you old rat … he stumbles onto the street … then gets a scent of the fester and like a blood hound after an escaped prisoner he huffs and puffs his way to the Dumpster (Out Back)… Super Snatch looks up from her servicing and says oooooo norm yer erly lemme just finish up ere and we’ll getcha looked affer …

        • Xabier says:

          I see Norm going to meet his cronies – who weep at recitals of his most recent verse – at the Garden Centre cafe, where a flash of his ‘I’m multi-boosted: thank you, NHS!’ Rainbow Club card gets them 10% off – pubs are far too expensive.

          I can’t imagine what the equivalent would be in the US for Keith?

          As for Conformist Mike, he’s just getting around and fitting in, a bit disconcerted as customers in line for the pie shop crash face-first to the pavement…..

          • stick to enclosing other people’s words xabier—safer that way

            when you venture onto the tightrope of your own words, we see yourself writ large—–

            those who can….do
            your mentor suffers from the same inadequacies and insecurities—forced to spew any form of BS to get noticed.

            As you do. And its getting moreso as you desperately demand attention.

            those who can’t …….
            make childlike attempts at mockery—especially of those who offer contradictory opinions to your own.

            you even list them for effect, even better for me to observe and know the inner workings of your mind.

            It is the antics of 12 yr old (if that) writing on the skoolyard wall—At least you havent graduated to four number rude words yet. Give it time i guess.

            But dont let me stop you—your rants provide endless amusement.

            • Zemi says:

              The same sad old cut-and-paste complaints from Normal.

            • read

              zemi

              read

              i observe what is,
              you have access to 10 years of ofw archives

              there you will find no complaints from me, no se xual innuendo—no faux obscenity no allusions to any form of unseemly behaviour of questionable legality.

              No fakery

              merely observation of a few individuals who choose to put their insecurities on display

              You can of course choose to react in obedient thoughtlessness to the dog whistle of your mentor.
              No doubt you are rewarded with a bone from time to time.

              My satisfaction is merely amusement.

              None of it is worth more than that

              but i do wish you would find a shred or two of creative originalty.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              That’s cuz you have gone downhill fast particularly since the Rat Juice shots… look at you now norm — worshipping pedos and drug addicts….getting your info from Huff … quoting David Attenborough… believing we magically fly through the Van Allens… ignoring the explosions on the WTC… believing a jet filled with people can crash into a building and leave no debris…

              What ridiculous nonsense are you going to bring up next norm?

            • Zemi says:

              “but i do wish you would find a shred or two of creative originalty.”

              Ah, but that was my complaint about you, Pagett, hence my “cut-and-paste” comment. But you didn’t get it, did you?

              In truth you just love being commented about. It’s all fodder to your narcissism.

            • ah yes

              cut n paste

              does that summarise your life history zemi

              or only most of it.

            • Zemi says:

              “does that summarise your life history or only most of it.”

              Summarise only most of it?! Is there logic in there somewhere?

              Clearly another deep dementia day for NP. He’ll make POTUS yet. 😉

            • zemi

              when someone is being funny, whether intentional or not—it always seem rude not to laugh.

              are you trying to take eddys spot?

              the decisive factor is whether hoolio will lick your hand—or bite it.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              maybe zemi is one of your former mates using a new handle to mock you….

            • could be eddy

              could be

              but the end lies in the amusement of all

              i have no need of shelter behind a nom de plume….but my words are mine own, not the utterings of jailbirds or those of a parrot perched so that yesterdays newspaper might catch his droppings

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I admire your honesty norm — it’s nice to hear that you admire joe the pedo and his deviant son … and anyone who opposes pedoism — you despise.

              We see you norm — there is not gray area.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              You don’t think referring to you as NOF … should make the OFW highlight reel?

          • Fast Eddy says:

            And the other thing they have in common is… they cannot drop the endless series of respiratory illnesses … out damn spot!

  35. Student says:

    (Al Jazeera via LiveTube)

    Images taken from the refugee camp in Chad formed by people desperately fleeing the conflict in Sudan

    https://www.livetube.tv/news/video-sudanese-refugees-in-chad-camp-conditions-worsen-as-agencies-overwhelmed

  36. Student says:

    (New York Times)

    Pictures taken after the Israeli attack on Jenin.
    Jenin is outside the Israeli territory, in the area called in ancient Latin Cisgiordania, in Arabic aḍ-Ḍiffä l-Ġharbīyä in Hebrew Hagadah Hama, in English West Bank.

    https://archive.is/FADPA

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/04/world/europe/israel-raid-jenin-photos.html

  37. Fast Eddy says:

    Home page news this… clearly normalizing cancer – why else

    An ultrasound revealed a golf ball-sized lump in one of her kidneys.

    It took almost a month before biopsy results confirmed that the lump was retroperitoneal liposarcoma. Sarcoma is a type of cancer that originates from bone, cartilage or soft tissues like fat and muscle, and is often misdiagnosed as benign, or as growing pains.

    Cheung recalls that she “couldn’t believe it” when she heard the diagnosis, as she never thought it could be cancer. She didn’t even know what sarcoma was at the time.

    “It was extremely scary … having a rare cancer is incredibly frightening because it’s not like common cancers where there is a lot of information, so it’s more difficult to get a very clear idea of what to expect.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/kiwi-mums-rare-sarcoma-diagnosis-after-dismissing-symptoms-as-womens-health-issues/SY5Q464UPBEXBHI7JFVNO6SPKQ/

    Zero connection to the Vax hahahahaha>>>> annual booster time!

    https://www.tiktok.com/@tiktokrachelreenstra/video/7052092917552516398

    • Xabier says:

      The very fact that these illnesses are ‘very rare’ is surely the explanation as to why all the doctors are so puzzled.

      Puzzled in the morning, in the afternoon, and all week as the new patients troop in……

  38. Fast Eddy says:

    So they can stop cnnbbc and social media from telling the mob that the vaxxes are killing and maiming millions … but they don’t have the juice to stop this https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81033

    hahaha..

    Ya’ll are being played (again)

    • Ed says:

      I love how the location of Hunter’s stash keeps moving. It got to the point, I was at a club tonight and I had to check under the table to make sure Hunter’s stash had not made its way to Woodstock.

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    A drainage bag … for leg surgery?

    Hubbs???

    On July 2, a 40-second audio clip was circulated by the singer’s fans on social media. In it, Lee thanked her fans for their unconditional support and advised them to take care of their health.

    Earlier in January, Lee sparked concern after sharing photos of herself with a drainage bag, saying that she weighed 42.3kg.

    In March, Lee had to learn to walk again after undergoing a major leg surgery. She previously disclosed that she was born with a defect in her left leg.

    https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2023/07/06/coco-lee039s-mother-refused-to-remove-singer039s-life-support-says-sister

    https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2023/01/03/singer-coco-lee-sparks-health-concerns-with-her-42kg-weight-drainage-bag-on-her-body

    • Hubbs says:

      If she had leg surgery, she may have had an infection or even problems healing and the wound was being drained by what is called a wound vac. Called negative pressure wound therapy (NPWT). A small portable pump with drainage collected in a bag.

      • Hubbs says:

        Or even a simple Jackson-Pratt drainage tube connected to a “hand grenade” type suction bulb. Very common.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Ya but could also be a vax injury that they are saying is a leg deformity??? — as we know she had breast cancer… and surgery for that…

          • Hubbs says:

            Or she could have had a simple mastectomy as a separate procedure with the perforated flattened drain under the closed skin flaps to evacuate any post op hematoma. A Jackson-Pratt drain tube could be tunneled subcutaneously to the collection bulb taped to her chest. Very common.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Thanks for this.

              I’m thinking :

              1. Her producer said she had breast cancer
              2. How did she perform for decades with a bum leg
              3. Where are the scars on the leg
              4. Most likely vaxxed

              = Turbo Breast cancer – being Turbo they found that it had spread — she was f789ed and doomed… so she swallowed a bottle of Fent… and opted out.

    • Hubbs says:

      On seeing the picture from the Star, she has a Jackson-Pratt drainage tube and the suction device strapped to her chest. This not a chest tube. I think she had a latissismus dorsi free vascularized muscle flap harvested from her back and then used as coverage for a defect in her leg, which would explain a second “bag” collecting any fluid build up underneath the flap covering her leg wound. Common practice in orthopedics and plastic surgery reconstruction.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Hubbs … do you think you could walk me through opening up norm’s head with a hacksaw (soaked in rubbing alcohol of course) so that we can a look at his spiked brain?

        I’d need advice on how to put the skull back on and stitch up the flap of skin.

        I’ll book a ticket to the UK next week if you are able to fit this into your schedule. Zoom call.

        • Zemi says:

          Fast, see from 6:30 to 11:05

          The Committee (1968)

          • Fast Eddy says:

            I don’t think I can do it … I’m too squeamish …

          • Xabier says:

            This film probably explains why Tim left England for a happy exile in Japan – even in the 60’s it was ghastly!

        • Xabier says:

          Surely too drastic?

          One assumes it might be possible to merely shake Norm and Keith, and listen for the rattle of the shrinking brain, and all those dead, vaxx-damaged connections, don’t you?

          We still await Norman’s response to the evidence for vaxx deaths and injuries on an enormous scale in the UK presented by Professor Fenton – the Nice Norm.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            Bang their heads together and listen to the Death Rattle.

            When one of them goes down with a Vax Injury and we get an announcement on OFW from Mother …

            I reckon we have 6 seconds of silence… then we remember them by regurgitating their most ridiculous comments… then continue to mock and ridicule them …

            After all … they wanted the Rat Juice – nobody forced them.

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Aaaaaaa HA!

    Coco Lee secretly battled breast cancer months before her death, says music producer friend

    https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/entertainment/2023/07/06/coco-lee-secretly-battled-breast-cancer-months-before-her-death-says-music-producer-friend

  41. Kevin Hester says:

    I’ve been following Gail’s work for nearly a decade now and have always admired her analysis. This article is truly a “Piece de resistance”, fantastic work.
    The depth of analysis reminds me of the work of David Korowicz and his paper titled: “Trade Off: Financial system supply-chain cross contagion – a study in global systemic collapse.”
    Published by David Korowicz on June 17, 2012.

    https://kevinhester.live/2023/03/14/financial-system-supply-chain-cross-contagion-a-study-in-global-systemic-collapse/

    • Xabier says:

      Korowicz is very quiet these days, in fact he has been since all of this blew up.

      I suppose it’s just that he has really said it all already?

      His advice for action was ‘Get a dog and goo for some (last?) walks’.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        He’s still around … I saw him in the Gents club last week … said he’s left his wife and is on a major debauchery bucket list… gives his regards to Gail … last I saw him he was headed for the private booth with a hottie and a bag of powder.

        Seems he got tired of walking the dog

        • Xabier says:

          I find it interesting that a global event occurs which is just up his street and he goes quiet: this could have been his hour for celebrity.

          From this we can perhaps conclude that he knows The End is very near, and all comment is futile.

          And also that he grasps just how powerful and probably unstoppable are the forces behind it all……

    • I discovered when I looked on Twitter that David Horowitz follows my twitter tweets.

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    keith? where are you? been awhile…

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    Twern’t no placebo … they all go plenty of spike… maybe some got Surprise Additives to maim and kill them for the purpose of demoralizing them as the PR Team preps 8B for the Meat Grinder

    https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/was-it-30-placebo

  44. hillcountry says:

    I’d love to have ears on that meeting, especially after watching this bit of investigative reporting about the ghost city in Tianjin.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbOALJIaB_U

    U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen’s visit to China takes place this July. Many media outlets predict she will meet with Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng. As Xi Jinping’s close ally, he replaced former Vice Premier Liu He. Traditionally, this position is the equivalent of the U.S. Treasury Secretary, in charge of China’s financial policy. This has raised concerns about China’s economic recovery, as the vice premier has a notable track record of building a ghost city in Tianjin.

  45. Mirror on the wall says:

    More info about the NATO summit here:

    • Discussion about NATO meeting starts about 8:50.

      One question is who should be Secretary General. Jens Stoltenberg has had the job for several years. Biden wants Ursula van den Leyen from Sweden who is now the President of the European Commission. She sees the situation in Ukraine and says “No way.” Ben Wallace of the UK would like the job, but Biden and the Pentagon say, “No way.” Ben Wallace wanted to send US F-16 to Ukraine, but this is not what US wants. They will just be shot down.

      The earlier meeting of a number of NATO countries to try to work out some way to get out of the Ukraine situation ended with no solution found. There was talk earlier about the possibility of Poland sending troops into Ukraine. The mood in Poland has turned strongly against that idea. There seems to be no plan; no real agreement.

      Ukraine wants a timeline to NATO membership. It will not be getting any such timeline.

      Expects everyone divided; not clear plan at this meeting. They were all putting all their chips on this Ukrainian offensive. Of course, it has done poorly.

      The Neocons in Poland and the UK want escalation.

      The US Democrats (behind Biden) are saying, “Let’s just manage this conflict so Ukraine doesn’t lose and Russia doesn’t win. Let’s manage this until the November 2024 election.” The American public doesn’t want boots on the ground. If this “goes south,” we will lose the election, whoever the candidate might be.

      • Adonis A says:

        All this is part of the plan to get inflation up and destroy weapons which is the great reset smoke and mirrors for the masses to distract them as the steps are being taken to usher in the new reality world communism you will own nothing and be happy expect cashless to come in digital identity forced vaccinations which will take us out one by one over the coming decades new breakeven prices will enable liquidity to the oil companies it makes no difference if its real or not it is what the powers that be decide on so the can will be kicked down the road again

    • Later on, about 21:00 and thereafter, Alex and Alexander mention that the CIA is trying to manage this war. It can sort of manage Europe, but it can’t manage Ukraine. Apparently a Newsweek article comes out and says as much. Ukraine has been blowing up things that it doesn’t have permission to blow up. US doesn’t want the war to spill over into a wider conflict.

      Ukraines even lie to us. Start with people like Zelensky and his friends, what do we expect? The US had the same problem with North and South Viet Nam.

      The US and its allies have labeled Putin a mad man. This closes the door to negotiations.

      Russians are getting stronger. Russian military is getting stronger. The Russian economy is getting stronger. The SCO is getting stronger; Belarus has joined the SCO.

      Zelensky is in panic mode. He is afraid for his life.

      Europeans still have the idea that they can destroy Russia and go after China. The NATO allies feel that they are going to be all powerful, and do as they want. European leaders don’t look at the problem rationally; they see things from an emotional perspective. Biden cannot talk to Russia or China. He has said too many bad things about their leaders. His emotional feelings are too close to the surface.

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