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A common belief is that if the world does not have adequate energy, the result will be high prices. These high prices will allow more fossil fuels to be extracted or will allow renewables to substitute for fossil fuels.
In my view, the real issue is quite different: Inadequate energy supply of the types the economy requires can be expected to affect the economy in a way that causes it to become “unglued.” The economy will gradually fall apart as infighting becomes more of a problem. Goods won’t necessarily be high-priced; many simply won’t be available at any price. Political parties will fragment. Conflict within countries, such as the recent Wagner conflict with the military leadership in Russia, will become more common.
It has become fashionable to use models to predict the future, but simple models do not consider real-world dynamics. They don’t consider the importance of already existing infrastructure and the types of energy products this infrastructure requires. They don’t consider the importance of continuing food production. They don’t consider the dynamics of “not enough goods and services to go around.”
In this post, I will look at some pieces of evidence that suggest we should expect the world economy to become unglued as limits are hit. A corollary is that we cannot expect a transition to a world powered by renewables to work.
[1] It is easy to show that the energy supplies of a finite world will eventually fall short.
Anyone can model the energy supplies of a finite world as a bucket of sand and a scooper. If the scooper is used to remove the sand from the bucket, it will eventually become empty. If we start with a larger bucket of sand, perhaps the process can be delayed. Or, if we use a smaller scooper, the process will be delayed. But the result will be the same.
Back in 1957, Rear Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a speech in which he said,
For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost, are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account.
In this speech, Rickover pointed out the importance of fossil fuels to maintain our standard of living and to win wars. It was clear to the military that fossil fuel energy supplies were tremendously important in preventing future problems for the economy.
[2] History shows that economies tend to grow and eventually collapse.
Economies tend to operate in cycles, as illustrated in Figure 1.
The eight economies analyzed by Turchin and Nefedov moved into a new area or acquired a new energy resource. These economies tended to grow for a long periods, well over 100 years, until the populations hit the carrying capacity of the available resources. These economies were able to work around these resource limits during a period of Stagflation, which typically lasted about 50 to 60 years. Eventually, the problems became too great to be overcome. A Crisis Period of falling population and GDP, lasting 20 to 50 years, typically ensued.
[3] The world economy today seems to be following a similar cycle based on its use of fossil fuels. In fact, we seem to be in the Crisis Period of such a cycle.
Today’s fossil fuel-based world economy started growing at varying times, in various places around the world, becoming well established by the early 1800s. It seems to have hit a Stagflation Period between 1970 and 1980. Recent patterns in oil supply per capita, interest rates, and debt levels suggest to me that the world economy has entered the Crisis Period of the current cycle.
To me, oil supply, particularly crude oil supply, is exceptionally important in keeping the economy growing because it is heavily used in producing the food supply and transporting it to market. In fact, it is heavily used in transportation of all kinds. We can see what is going wrong by looking at the trend in crude oil per capita (blue line on Figure 2).
On Figure 2, a line is drawn at 2005, when many people believe that peak “conventional” oil was reached. The line at 2009 points out the long-term slide in oil consumption per capita between 2005 and 2009, related at least in part to the Great Recession of 2008-2009. There was another steep drop in crude oil per capita in 2020, and this drop has not been made up. Cutbacks in drilling and low oil prices suggest that per capita consumption may never recover to the 2018 level.
US interest rates over time indicate a clear up and down pattern, with increases to 1981, and mostly decreases since then (Figure 3). Raising interest rates is like putting brakes on the economy because it makes monthly payments on loans higher. Lowering interest rates is like pressing on the accelerator.
The US was in a Stagflation Period after 1980. Lower interest rates helped push the economy along, at least until they could go no lower. The first place falling interest rates stalled was in 2008, when they hit zero for the shortest-term debt. About the beginning of 2021, interest rates started to rise, to try to stop inflation.
At the same time, the US’s ability to add to debt, except US government debt, seems to have stalled about 2008 and again in 2021.
The combination of Figures 2, 3, and 4 suggests that the world economy has been on shaky ground since 2008. The US economy has been operating with incredibly low interest rates. If the world loses the ability to hide energy problems behind ever-lower interest and ever-higher debt, (particularly government debt), many parts of the economy could start coming apart.
[4] The world’s total energy supply must increase at least as fast as population to keep the economy growing and away from collapse.
A couple of years ago, I did an analysis of the growth in energy consumption compared to the growth of population over the period 1820 to 2020. I found that when energy consumption was rising faster than population, there tended to be a rise in standards of living. When energy consumption grew only as fast as population, problematic things (such as wars and governmental collapses) tended to happen (Figure 5).
On Figure 5, the sum of red and blue areas represents world energy consumption growth by 10-year periods. The blue areas represent population growth percentages during these 10-year periods. The red area is determined by subtraction. It represents the amount of energy consumption growth that is “left over” for growth in standards of living. When growth in energy consumption was inadequate, wars tended to take place, and the collapse of the central government of the Soviet Union took place.
We are now at a point where energy consumption may decrease dramatically in future years, especially if we attempt to convert to a system based on intermittent wind and solar. The drop in energy consumption, relative to population, would likely be far worse than any situation we have experienced in the past. Besides being inadequate in quantity, wind and solar are not adapted to handling our most basic need, which is for providing the inputs farmers require to provide us with food.
[5] A key to understanding the role of fuels of the right kinds is understanding the physics-based way that the economy operates.
The economy is very much like the human body. The operation of both is governed by the laws of physics. The human body needs to consume a variety of food products. Alternative foods can be substituted, but the overall quantity of food needs to be sufficient for the population and their level of activity.
Likewise, the world economy requires a variety of energy products to operate. Substitutions can sometimes be made, but the overall quantity must be sufficient to support the activities of the economy, including providing adequate food and water for the population and ways to transport these items to the population that needs them.
There are other similarities, as well. Humans start out as small babies. Eventually, humans grow old. In the years leading up to death, they often become frail. The cycle downward at the end of an economy’s life is somewhat similar. Economies, even the world economy, cannot last forever.
[6] To build and maintain cities, it is necessary for energy to be easily storable.
In his book, Against the Grain, the American political scientist James C. Scott points out that in order for governments to grow and to provide infrastructure for cities, it is necessary to tax farmers. Grain is ideal for this; taxing a root crop such as sweet potatoes does not work well. Root crops are hard to see when they are growing. They also are harder to transport and store.
Clearly, farmers must have a surplus of storable energy to make cities and good roads work. They must be able to produce this surplus energy in a sufficiently profitable way that governments can tax it and use the proceeds for the benefit of the overall population.
I think that excess storable energy is the true “net energy” that some authors write about. A city cannot operate only when the wind happens to be blowing or the sun happens to be shining. Everyone would clog the roads at the same time, trying to get to a job that might last only a few minutes. Even today, if a city is to have electricity when it is needed, even in winter, there needs to be a storable supply of fuel to provide this electricity. Batteries cannot provide this level of storage; we would run out of materials.
Cities are essential for the sharing of ideas and for the operation of major industries.
We can have an economy of hunter-gatherers running on intermittent energy alone. We might even be able to have cities based on stored grain, as civilizations did in the past. But the population would need to be far less than today’s 8 billion.
[7] Both energy density and storability are needed if the world’s population is to be fed.
A farmer needs machines that are not so heavy that they will sink into the soil. Soil compaction is also an issue with heavy machines. If soil is compacted, water cannot make its way through the pores properly. Rain will tend to run off, causing erosion, instead of sinking in, to provide longer-term benefit. Soil compaction is already a problem with today’s large machinery. Less dense fuels, or the use of heavy battery packs, will make the problem even worse.
Energy dense fuel is also needed for the transportation of food. In fact, energy dense fuel, such as diesel or jet fuel, is used in nearly all of today’s very large vehicles. Heavy vehicles operated in situations that require very large bursts of power especially need energy dense fuel. Examples include semi-trailer trucks, buses that drive up steep hills, airplanes that need bursts of power to take off, agricultural vehicles that might get stuck in mud, and vehicles used in construction and road making.
Trains operating on smooth tracks, with limited gradients, don’t need the same bursts of power, so they are sometimes electric. Boats don’t generally need large bursts of power, but boats generally use an energy-dense liquid fuel to propel them on long journeys. Storing enough electricity in batteries to power such long journeys would be impractical.
The recently published 2023 Statistical Review of World Energy (now produced by the Energy Institute, instead of BP) shows that the heavier, more energy-dense types of burnable oil have been falling as a share of the world’s oil supply.
These heavier grades are the ones best suited to essential future energy needs, and they seem to be depleting the most quickly.
[8] Added complexity is deceptive. It looks like it can save energy, but it tends to increase wage disparities and makes the overall system more fragile.
Added complexity for an economy includes changes such as more built infrastructure (roads, dams, bridges), larger businesses, more specialization of workers, more international trade, and longer supply chains. It is easy for modelers to assume that these changes have no energy cost, but in reality, they do.
Changes enabling growing complexity go hand in hand with more debt and more financialization of the economy. With greater complexity, owners and managers of businesses, as well as highly trained workers, tend to receive a disproportionate share of the wealth. This means that little is left over for non-elite workers. These wage and wealth disparities lead to the unhappiness of the lower-paid workers. This is especially the case during economic downturns.
With added complexity, the system becomes more fragile. Supply lines become longer, so missing parts are more likely to be a problem. Repair parts for wind turbines may become unavailable, for example. The US grid would need massive improvements to handle the proposed increase in wind and solar power, and the demands of EVs. All of the simultaneous commodity demands may become too much for suppliers to meet.
Even changes in financial systems could be a serious problem. With the conflict over the SWIFT money processing system, will one group of countries start using a different financial exchange program, such as Iran’s financial messaging system SEPAM? Will Western nations find themselves cut off from purchasing inputs they depend upon?
[9] Modeling underlying the analysis for the 1972 book The Limits to Growth shows that (total materials required for reinvestment each year) as a percentage of (total economic output) is an important limit.
Somehow, the economy must provide enough goods and services both for the needs of the current members of the economy and for the investment needed to keep the system operating in the future.
The economy is squeezed in three different ways:
- The population keeps growing, and each person needs food, clothing, and a variety of services.
- Resources of all kinds (not just fossil fuels) become more difficult to extract due to depletion. More of the output of the economy needs to go into investment, just to get the same quantity of copper, lithium, nickel, and minerals of all kinds, including fossil fuels.
- With the rising population and increasing resource use, pollution becomes a bigger problem. Mitigation efforts lead to a need to use more resources to keep pollution away from humans.
To keep the system operating, we cannot spend very much on the combination of resource extraction and pollution control, or there will not be enough resources left to meet the needs of the growing population.
This combination limit tells me is that a rapid transition of any kind toward any new energy type, even toward the use of “green energy,” is not likely to work well. There is a reason why past transitions to new energy types have been very slow. The economy cannot invest enough without starving other parts of the economy.
Some people have interpreted this combination limit as an Energy Return on Energy Investment limit of perhaps 10:1, but it seems to me to be a far more serious limit than this. At a minimum, all types of resources, including those for backup batteries and additional long distance transmission lines, must be included in any calculation for renewables.
Also, to keep the system operating, any shift from fossil fuels to renewables cannot have a delayed payback period, relative to fossil fuels, or the huge up-front investment will become a problem. The up-front investment in renewables will be higher, but there will not be enough output to support the economy. The “real” economy does not operate on an accrual basis; people need to eat every day, and aluminum smelters expect to operate every day.
As I mentioned previously, renewables aren’t really helpful for growing food. Nor are reliable enough to power aluminum smelters, so there is a real issue as to whether they should even be considered as possible substitutes for fossil fuels. They are simply add-ons to the fossil fuel system to avoid having to talk about our fossil fuel supply problems. Reframing the issue as “wanting to move away from fossil fuels to prevent climate change” saves having to talk about the inadequate fossil fuel supply problem, and the fact that fossil fuels are what make today’s lifestyle possible.
[10] Energy prices must be both high enough for producers to make a profit and low enough for consumers to afford goods made with these energy products.
It is the conflict between the needs of consumers and producers that tends to bring fossil fuel energy production down. Consumers say, “We can’t stand oil (or natural gas or electricity) prices this high, and demand that politicians hold prices down.” In fact, this just recently happened in Australia with natural gas prices. Without an adequate profit motive, drillers cut back on drilling and production falls.
Renewables have gotten mandates and subsidies, especially the subsidy of going first on the electric grid. It is these subsidies and mandates that have made investments in wind turbines and solar panels attractive. Once governments have more financial problems and these subsidies disappear, owners are likely to stop making repairs to these systems. They will not last longer than fossil fuel-based systems, in my opinion.
[11] Conclusion: We are in uncharted territory.
I mentioned that the Great Recession of 2008-2009 seemed to mark the beginning of the downturn. More financial problems are no doubt ahead, but other kinds of strange events may also occur.
It seems possible that Covid, its vaccines, and the restrictions in 2020 may even have been part of the “ungluing.” Self-organizing physics-based systems act strangely. World oil supply started declining in 2019. Militaries around the world have been concerned about fossil fuel limits for many years. Militaries have also been deeply involved with germ warfare. Economies around the world were experiencing financial problems. The shutdowns conveniently reduced demand and prices for oil, while giving economies around the world an excuse for more debt. The problems were kicked down the road until 2022 and 2023, when they reappeared as inflation.
We can’t know what lies ahead, but it may be very strange, indeed.
Random insanity:
The company originally focused on generating revenues from advertising, but in the face of competition from technology behemoths Meta Platforms and Google, it switched to selling hotel bookings.
That in turn took Culture Trip into competition with the likes of Expedia and Booking.com, so it elected to shift its emphasis to selling curated trips focused on the millennial demographic.
Ana Jakimovska, chief executive of Culture Trip, said: “Our mission is to connect people through responsible travel to help with loneliness and the climate crisis.
https://news.sky.com/story/tour-operator-culture-trip-plots-journey-with-new-owners-12919120
Right – jump on a plan and burn oil … cuz you are despondent about the climate crisis
hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha…
That might be even better than the ski hill promising to be nett zero soon.
F789ing clown world
Touchy Feelz >> Objective Reality
The rapacious primate craves the delusion, copiates and hopiums. Preferably shared with those flailing about in the Myopia of Ordinary.
Buy a Tesla – save the planet:
https://youtu.be/7W33HRc1A6c
Loneliness?
https://www.rd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/quote-on-loneliness-by-ellen-burstyn.jpg
🤣👍👍
Feed the rapacious maws of the zombie companies.
Gooby Woomies… see how they play you https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81465
Duh
Breast cancer stats from American Breast Cancer Assoc:
2019 approx 25,000
2020 approx 26,000
2021 approx 26,000
2022 approx 47,000
2023 projected 297,000
https://t.me/c/1588731774/18616
2024 stats may show the kill did work.
Just the appetizer… the main course is the Bossche Mutation – Dessert is Global Holodomor … it’s a dessert that is comprised of air.
Written up by an idiot who can’t read a data table. Numbers went up 20% over the last few years, so rates are up less than 20% after one accounts for population growth and reduced testing during the covid freak-out.
https://www.wcrf.org/cancer-trends/breast-cancer-statistics/
2020 US numbers ~250k
https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/breast.html
2023 US numbers ~300k
You can safely disregard anything posted by FE. A good contrarian indicator.
I think I already commented – maybe Gail just needs to let it through – but those numbers are wrong. 2020 numbers were ~250k, for example.
The numbers are correct. Cancer Cancer Cancer!!!! Everywhere I look
Those numbers cannot be right. See how steady the rates are in this chart:
https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/breast.html
2020 is down a little from other years, so it is not surprising if 2021, 2022, and 2023 are all up a little.
FDA confirms Modified Spike Protein used in mRNA COVID-19 “Vaccines” is NOT Safe & More Dangerous than Unmodified Spike Protein after being Forced to Publish Confidential Pfizer Docs
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/bombshell-update-fda-confirms-modified
This author previously published FDA confirms Graphene Oxide is in the mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines after being forced to publish Confidential Pfizer
Documents by order of the US Federal Court
Now he is showing how the spike protein is more dangerous, not less, after modification.
Recall how norm scoffed at this …
Another ‘CON spiracy’ comes true — right norm.
How does cheap furniture production look today?
Robots that work for Ikea in Slovakia
https://index.sme.sk/g/220352/nabytkarska-spolocnost-lukamasiv?gref=https%3A%2F%2Findex.sme.sk%2Fc%2F23184504%2Ffelix-nominacia-lukamasiv-krivan-nabytok-vybrala-si-ich-ikea-stavili-na-roboty.html&list=1
Very cool. Housing structures should be prefabbed like this.
RFK attack
https://www.aol.com/abhorrent-groups-call-robert-f-153000126.html
Dmitry Orlov has an excellent article explaining why NATO allies are suddenly turning against Ukraine.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/incredible-shrinking-nato
Later:
Scott Ritter on a podcast over a month ago made the distinction between the American weapons which are “crap” and how the Russian weapons simply work, because they have to for existential reasons for the Russians, whereas the US military industrial complex weapons production is only about making money for the big corporations, not whether they are practical, durable, serviceable, and lethal.
Wasn’t the F-16 designed by a group of true military experts on a secret side budget who were dedicated to building the best fighter jet possible without all the DOD and corporation BS to tie them down? It seems that even though it is 30-40 yrs old, it remains the old standby. When you are trying to BS the world into thinking they are getting the best US weaponry, you sell them F -22s and F -35s, but if you are really going to war and need weapons that work, you use F-16s.
I wonder if the Russian antiaircraft and antimissile defense systems like S-400s finally ended the ground support A-10 Warthog’s stellar record of lethality, functionality and reliability.
Which is why Korea, which does have an existential threat, is becoming the center of weaponry in the “woke” bloc.
I dont agree Ukraine troops are “just not winning” as Russia’s war goal is to hold Crimea and they have reached that objective.
I think the idea is to sell expensive weapons that consume little energy and in which little energy is stored, such as drones compared to tanks.
Must be funning talking about something that is fake – and believing it’s real
war-on.
😉
Fast Henny the war-on.
🙂
….”NATO is a captive buyers’ club for US-made weapons”…
Monday Morning Schad Time!
CULT-WATCH: “Fully Vaccinated” Covid Advisor MD Passes Out In Bathroom, Wakes Up In Pool Of Blood With Fractured Neck, Blames Shower Steam and Urges People to “Get Vaccinated”
Narration As Inversion-Craft, Masochism As Social Status: Covid Propaganda May Eclipse Soviet Or Nazi Propaganda As Total Assault On The Human Mind
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/cult-watch-fully-vaccinated-covid
I feel very +++ after reading that
Highly amusing, an ideal start to Monday morning. It’s good to have one’s sanity confirmed in contrast to these liars and fools.
FE, you friend who wants to try his luck in Spain. The YT channel ‘Spain Speaks’ has all the gloomy news and covers taxes, politics and employment issues, a miserable Aussie never once known to smile.
Different regions have very varied characters and important differences in tax and employment law, If he wants sun and fun as wll as makin money, he might look at Catalonia further up on the east coast, and possibly Valencia.
He should get a house with a garden and pool, not an apartment, as the lockdowns were very strict in Spain and not even an hour of outdoor exercise, was allowed.
And check whether the house was in a zone recently flooded as they can be serious.
I imagine that he is most likely to find non-Spaniards who speak English to do business with in the south, and possibly Catalonia.
Pais Vasco is also business orientated, but on the Atlantic coast and wetter, and the locals probably have everything sewn up, and Madrid is of course land-locked and a kind of Hell.
Beautiful girls……everywhere! But stay away from my sister or the knives come out. ….
He’s happily married — but I was suggesting that if he’s in an area with all the retired Brits he could be a pool boy and service the wives.
My cousins loved installing and maintaining swimming pools for Russians, when they were still around…..
Is this Super Snatch Sindy and norm’s son/daughter? https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49596
They are going totally nuts AF!
https://twitter.com/SouthlandPost/status/1680668629124169729
Syphilis Outbreak Declared: 128% Increase In Cases Among Women In Houston
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2023/07/15/syphilis-outbreak-declared-128-increase-in-cases-among-women-in-houston/?sh=64e5caa94164
‘Hot girl summer” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
avoid jabbed women with damaged immune systems.
avoid them “like the plague”.
ha ha see what I did there?
It must be tough being young and Pure of Blood… so few young people rejected the Rat Juice…. how do you hook up when you know almost everyone is polluted with this toxic garbage.
Yuck turnoff
These are dark days indeed for a virile and unattached male.
One could catch one’s death from shedding, as well as something nasty. Quite a few anecdotes around of husbands falling sick from consorting with their vaxxed wives, although it mostly seems to go the other way round.
We need research on this!
‘Oh rose, thou art sick, the hidden worm that flies in the night…’ etc.
Fast Eddy has gone missing! Please let authorities know if you see him! Here is the most recent picture we have of him:
https://tinyurl.com/4f2f55r8
Chicken Little, Chicken Little. The sky is falling!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny
“Henny Penny”, more commonly known in the United States as “Chicken Little” and sometimes as “Chicken Licken”, is a European folk tale with a moral in the form of a cumulative tale about a chicken who believes that the world is coming to an end. The phrase “The sky is falling!” features prominently in the story, and has passed into the English language as a common idiom indicating a hysterical or mistaken belief that disaster is imminent. Similar stories go back more than 25 centuries and “Henny Penny” continues to be referred to in a variety of media.”
Fast Henny Penny.
The sky is not falling.
I am afraid it’s much much much worse than that….
8 billion are in the process of being exterminated.
hahahahaha
Hahaha… take some fellas from a country where women are covered head to do in black … and put them on a beach full of scantily clad women …
https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49573
Soooooooooo EEEEEEeeeeee!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd8fNiySYLQ
Elon’s AGI will be curious and truth seeking.
Elon give 2030 as the time for AGI.
I have no belief in AGI creating Nirvana regardless how smart it is. But it will be fun.
Ouch
https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45870925-0052-49d8-8fd8-b1dbaedafa1b_503x781.png
Tasty Schad
“Vaccination Expert” Dr. Alfredo Victoria Dies Suddenly At 42
Vocal advocate of the Covid mRNA vaccines, dies in his sleep. In excellent health, with no pre-existing medical conditions
Dr. Alfredo Victoria Moreno, a popular Mexican TV doctor who regularly appeared on “Mexico Today” as a “vaccination expert,” died suddenly in his sleep from a myocardial infarction. He was 42 years old.
https://drpanda.substack.com/p/vaccination-expert-dr-alfredo-victoria
Did you enjoy that keith?
These are the best
Fast Henny is the Schadiator!
Country singer Jason Aldean ends concert early after suffering heat stroke on stage
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jason-aldean-heat-stroke-on-stage-reschedule-concert-xfinity-hartford-connecticut/
Sad, and Kulm thinks this class of people who soon enslave us all. 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TViaGYg69Y
Russia, Syria, Iran are killing US reaper drones in Syria.
Ukraine intel hired Russian teens to kill RT editor. The teens were stopped by the FSB.
US military interventions seem to be running into problems everywhere.
UKR’s ‘big counteroffensive’ seems to have ‘stalled’, ie. failed, and Russia has shifted into a more offensive mode.
UKR is not going to ‘cut off Crimea’ anytime soon. UKR has failed to even reach Russia’s major fortified lines let alone breach them.
UKR tanks and armoured vehicles are going up in smoke as UKR is pushed back and fails in every place that it tries.
UKR tried to do some spectacle to impress Vilnius but it failed and UKR suffered horrific manpower and equipment losses during the summit.
UKR has made no breakthroughs in any place after a month of ‘big counteroffensive’.
Meanwhile Russia is giving UKR some difficult decisions whether to pursue the ‘counteroffensive’ in the south or to meet mounting crises elsewhere on the lines.
UKR risks losing all the gains that it made in the north last autumn, in which case the ‘penny is likely to drop’ for UKR about the prospects of the entire conflict.
And the UKR economy is in collapse and the entire country exists on western life support.
Ukraine big offensive becoming Russian counter-offensive
Alex and Alexander explaining that Ukraine is having no success. Instead, Russia is able to launch a counter-offensive.
(Byoblu)
“British Defense Minister Ben Wallace has announced his resignation.
“We are not Amazon,” he had declared on the sidelines of the NATO summit meeting in Vilnius.
“The UK is not an online weapons delivery service…
According to the minister, there is a real risk for UK to be soon in a direct military conflict with Russia”…
https://www.byoblu.com/2023/07/16/ministro-difesa-uk-annuncia-le-dimissioni-ma-avverte-il-regno-unito-rischia-scontro-diretto-con-la-russia/
Perhaps Ben Wallace would like the UK to be making the decisions in this conflict. He doesn’t seem to have the same views as the US.
Wallace, who was, I believe, a mere infantry captain for a few years, and boasted that the UK would ‘kick Putin’s behind’. Oh dear.
Perhaps he mistook ‘kick’ for ‘kiss’?
In Italy we say: ‘have a reality bath’.
Maybe he had.
He is maybe starting to realize that if Russia makes some hard repercussion, he, his family, his friends and relatives will spend some very bad time in UK.
Maybe also Russia, but Russian are ready to die, British not, in my view.
Rumors of Wagner’s death have been greatly exaggerated.
https://www.rt.com/russia/579784-wagner-belarus-training/
Poland is suffering an emergency for clean underwear over Wagner’s new home.
No one forced Poland to take a belligerent stance against Russia?
I always said that Poland is being frankly silly.
If you have a massive neighbour then it is probably best in the long term to have peaceful relations?
Impromptu ‘reverse domination’ is a very dangerous game to play in geopolitics.
What made Poland think that Russia would forget and forgive?
Wagner In Belarus Becomes NATO’s Worst Nightmare; Russian Lawmaker Hints At Attack On Poland
In a recent appearance on Russian television, Russian lawmaker Andrey Kartapolov made an alarming claim. He suggested that President Putin sent the Wagner Group to Belarus with the intention of attacking Poland. It’s important to note that neither Putin nor the Wagner Group has indicated any plans to invade Poland. Reports say the Wagner Group has begun training Belarusian soldiers. NATO nation Poland views Wagner Group’s presence in neighbouring Belarus as a potential threat to the region and has already deployed over 1,000 troops to the east.
“No one forced Poland to take a belligerent stance against Russia?”
I really couldn’t say. I’m waiting for someone like Seymour Hersh (who “sees more” than most mortals) or the Two Alexes to report on what sort of arm-twisting has been going on behind the scenes.
But strong anti-Russian sentiment pervades virtually the whole political establishment in most EU countries these days (with Hungary being a prominent exception), so it is a good bet it has been coordinated from above the nation state level.
Wait a week or two and see what happens. Will Belarus make advances against Poland?
Coming to a theater near….?? The Han can be pretty rebellious when they’re pushed to the wall. It appears to be coming apart at the seams in so many ways over there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LfTAQA1dNI
Blurb:
In many countries, local governments can technically declare bankruptcy, but this is not feasible in China. China’s executive-dominant social structure, in which central power dominates absolutely, would lead to incalculable consequences if a government runs out of money or faces problems. In recent years, we have often seen news about pay cuts or wage arrears for civil servants and teachers, but these are sectors that do not greatly impact social stability. However, if wages for city management and public security, a series of social stabilization enforcement governing organs, cannot be paid, it would shake the power stability of the Chinese Communist Party, which is unacceptable to them. This is also why local governments are not afraid to borrow money, as the central government ultimately has to take responsibility.
China is terribly important to the world economy. Things seem to be going terribly wrong there, but we don’t understand how they are going wrong. This seems to a be an important part of the problem. Also, the falling population.
It sounds as if when banks fail in China, depositors find themselves with bonds (which may have no value at all, certainly not for a long time) instead of their deposits. People who lose their life savings would be quite unhappy.
Perhaps China is not only too big to fail, but also too big to succeed?
Perhaps. It may need to shed the less productive parts. I’m not sure how that works out.
-Like the US, there is the old industrial area in the Northeast that can have difficulty competing.
-There is also the far Northwest, where China has been harvesting body parts from living people and people work with very inadequate pay.
-There is also the debt problem.
Maybe the issue is like that of the Soviet Union. The central government cannot hold. The individual provinces can perhaps compete in the world market, to the extent they can. I am afraid that that is the direction all parts of the world are going: The EU will perhaps fail, leaving the individual countries. The United States will perhaps become less united. Canada’s provinces may become less united.
Yesterday I saw an interview on a German Youtube channel with investor Louis-Vincent Gave, who specializes in Asia.
He says that there are huge shifts happening in China. The big real estate boom is over, but the service sector and the export sector are booming.
China is leading the e-car sector and exporting them very successfully. BYD is selling the “Seagull” model for $11,000 like mad to emerging markets.
(at which point I wonder about these pictures of e-cars being stockpiled in large numbers…don’t know it is fake or real anoymore).
He also talked about how 10 years ago about 4% of Chinese women were single in their 30s, now it’s already 10%. That is a huge change in just 10 years, he said. More housing units are needed, but more individualized ones. The car is less relevant, but other expenses are increasing in importance, tourism, cosmetics, luxury goods.
I assume he has not seen the videos of the thousands upon thousands of EV’s parked and rotting away… that are no doubt being counted as exports.
Buying some outdated stage set pieces is quite a bad investment.
As the civilized world is preparing for the landfall of the jungle, in retrospect there were several things it did wrong.
It was wrong to grant civil rights, at least nominally, for everyone.
It was wrong to allow everyone to drive cars, etc. Only those with a certain income level should have been allowed to do so. Ironically Japan , which flooded the world with ‘affordable’ cars, does that – it does not allow people without garages, not easily available in big cities, to own cars. (I don’t know whether that policy was changed)
It led everyone to use smartphones and even the tribesmen at New Guinean jungles followed telegram and a lot of them were not vaxxed. Something is wrong when they rely on smartphones.
Making society stratified, and limiting consumption to the top crust would have led the world to the next level of civilization. Even though most people not in the top 1% would have had a much lower standard of living, back breaking work with little chance of remedy or improving their situation, the world would have advanced much further by that so it would have been for the greater good that most people suffer horribly.
Darkness born of halogen extinction, the starlite sky glows iridescent Electrons cease to flow in tangled broken copper
Hilltops glow with burning pyres as tribes try to reclaim the night
Drumbeats throb like pulses from human nightmares
A few with awareness smile in the night as they see the others start to pass through the veil back into this world…..
Yes! Astonishingly they have made these mistakes! Interesting, isnt it? OFW is another example, we can connect here and exchange ideas. Centuries ago only my old auntie, who had always been up-class and could call people from all over the world, had been able to meet people with knowledge above from priest, teacher and doctor. The internet was created with exactly the idea in the back, that people with same interest could gather together and thus improve specific knowledge. From the very beginning – by the military industrial complex in the USA. The problem is in fact also that the internet references false memes and ideas in a circular way and does NOT work scientifically, where one should also reference opposite ideas. We also see this problem in the OFW comments. On the other hand, if I had to buy all science books that I hsve downloaded in print I would be a poor churchmouse.
Above mistakes are, why some of our friends say, all is a religious ritual, the bad is done to create the good. It is done in a way that really everybody has a chance to decide.
I don’t see that, thinking of children, that cannot decide so easily. And what is more, if you wanna do good, do good by doing good. And not by doing bad! Full stop!
I have gotten sufficiently involved with scientific peer reviewed papers and with scientific text books to see that both can be quite biased. Both are biased in the direction of “how people would like things to turn out.”
Grant administrators and heads of departments at universities would like happily ever after endings. Publishers of textbooks want young people to think that while there are problems, they are likely problems that they themselves can help solve. In fact, they would like to believe that they can earn a high salary while pursuing such a career.
Writers of blogs can write what they really see. The checks come from commenters to the blog. In fact, there may be checks to blogs even before articles go up by readers asked to review articles in advance. In this way, they can be like “peer reviewed” articles. Our Finite World uses this approach.
Peer review is generally understood to mean review by peers (those who work in the same field).
However, if we consider the meaning of the verb “to peer”, it could be understood to mean review by people peering (looking carefully) at it.
Yes, of course! The internet allowed a huge democratisation of knowledge. Kulm called it a mistake! And yet it was installed with exactly that implication by the military industrial complex that is now behind a problematic injection and deteriorating democracy and human rights. Was this really a mistake or does it serve a purpose?
Friends argue, there is a spiritual agenda behind, to awaken the masses and get them into self reliance and responsibility. Which would be needed for a larger civilisatoric restart.
It might also have been the carrot to make the technology a success, so that it can be used for purposes of control and oppression.
Sorry, if this was not understandable.
(La Veritá)
France, Austria and Germany are starting to compensate people who suffered adverse events after experimental mRNA therapy against Covid-19.
Mainly myocarditis, pericarditis, strokes and paralysis.
People compensated is just a tiny part of the overwhelming numbers of requests arriving.
https://www.laverita.info/la-francia-paga-per-i-danni-da-vaccino-2662284491.html
This is just the next stage: admission of ‘very rare’ harms caused, ‘Long Vaxx’ and entirely inadequate compensation for only a small % of those affected.
I hope you are well, Student: the British news informs us that Italians are ‘boiling in their own sweat’ due to the heatwave emergency caused by weather variant ‘Cerberus’!
It is a news that can be of help for those countries which are still telling fairy tales to people about a safe mRNA ‘so-called’ vax….
One for all, US.
Yes, it is hot in Italy these days, but it was hotter in previous recent years and it has actually rained sometimes, so no particular drought.
June was without ‘canicule’.
So, my impression, is that it is a slightly better situation than previous recent years.
Judging by comments on YT, many here are seeing through this crude :Europe is burning!’ climate propaganda.
At the supermarket this morning I checked the newspaper headlines: a ‘serious’ paper assured me – it covered half the front page, prime position top left – that southern Europe is burning up.
The same method used to drum up fear regarding the Covid variants. So we have at least some ‘transparency’ in that respect….
Consider https://youtu.be/fAqa982j1a0
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81425
If we don’t have enough energy for use here on earth, do we really need NASA to be training people in doing work away from earth’s gravity?
NASA , in the ultimate sense, was never more than a job creation scheme for PhD’s
Probably true.
The purpose of NASA is to convince the MORE-ONS that we can leave Earth for another planet once we burn this sucker out.
NASA is nothing more than a hopium machine…
I suppose it also assisted with ICBM tech as well – so that we could blow each other to bits
Also, if we can aspire to leave our home planet, aliens could undoubtedly do the trip on reverse – feeds another false narrative.
‘Aliens’ are astral entities, not intergalactic travellers.
Not for the first ten years but now it is white collar welfare.
How fast is the Earth spinning?
10 degrees: 1,021.7837 mph (1,644.4 km/h)
20 degrees: 974.9747 mph (1,569.1 km/h)
30 degrees: 898.54154 mph (1,446.1 km/h)
40 degrees: 794.80665 mph (1,279.1 km/h)
50 degrees: 666.92197 mph (1,073.3 km/h)
60 degrees: 518.7732 mph (834.9 km/h)
70 degrees: 354.86177 mph (571.1 km/h)
80 degrees: 180.16804 mph (289.95 km/h)
Are we attached to the Earth?
What do you think would happen if you stood on a merry go round and it spun at those speeds?
CTG – are we living in a simulation?
If the merry go round was the same size as earth and in space with a atmosphere around it then exactly what happens on earth.
I think perhaps you need to study some physics as what you are comparing are not similar. Gravity effects etc….
Doesn’t mean we are not in a sim though. Just not a way to prove it.
the local OFW Sciencetard thinks that friction is the opposite of frictioff.
and inertia is the opposite of outertia.
he understands too little about science to even be embarrassed by his nonnsense.
oh well.
he’s still the OFW Schadiator.
yes that is what we are told… but I am not buying it.
See centrifugal force.
Unless the Tychos model proposed by Simon Shack is correct.
https://book.tychos.space/chapters/4-intro-tychos
Let’s put the numbers in
at 10 degree that is 444 meters per second
the radius of the earth is 6 million meters
using v*v/r
we get 0.03 meters per sec per sec
gravity at the surface of earth is 9.8 meters per sec per sec
So the centrifugal acceleration is 3/1000 of gravity pulling down. Gravity wins.
Try standing on a merry go round that’s spinning at 500 miles per hour.
Gravity loses
https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81425
Consider a centrifuge machine….
https://youtu.be/fAqa982j1a0
I wonder what’s the fixation between a sphere and plane. There’s plenty of other geometrical shapes. What if the earth is a hemisphere, or shaped as a cone? Perhaps something even fancier, like a 4D Klein bottle.
There’s simply no way of knowing for sure until every conspiracy theorist gets their own spaceship to go and verify it with their naked eyes.
But the species expert in self deception is worried about being deceived, and how adorable isn’t that?
How about buying a new car, or perhaps go on antisocial media and project.
https://youtu.be/meiU6TxysCg
DO IT! Let the primate in you go full tilt, loose cannon.
https://youtu.be/NgGLFozNM2o
Just truck or fly in the supplies from beyond the ice wall and behold the Monkey Business sending it to 1T Tryhards and MOARons.
JUST DO IT!
https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0
I’m just trying to work out why I’m not flung into the air a 500mph… oh right … gravity right…
I’ll hop into the bat mobile and test that out by driving around a hair pin at 200 mph. not.
The earths radius is quite the “hairpin” to say the least. It’s more like driving at 200mph in a virtually straight line.
Just because the Monkey Business is mostly smoke and mirrors doesn’t necessarily mean that electricity is fake, and the earth being flat.
Just buy a battery and a resistor. Connect the resistor to the battery and verify that it gets hot. See, something, let’s call it “X” for the time being, causes the resistor to heat up. Once verified replace X with electromagnetism. Electric current specifically electrons making the resistor material heat up by bouncing its atoms around. Let’s check out Ohms law:
https://youtu.be/HsLLq6Rm5tU
For verifying if the earth is a sphere, buy a cheap model rocket, strap a miniature camera on it and launch. Calculate earths curvature from the images:
https://youtu.be/XaI0n521C7E
Need more? No, I guessed so.
I can’t get the image out of my mind of people sitting on the horses on the merry go round and I flick the switch to High — and the thing spins 500mph….. and bodies are flying everywhere.
Ah, a gedankenexperiment. Good for you.
Here’s some numbers for you:
1: The solar system orbits around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. We are moving at an average velocity of 828,000 km per hour. That’s some serious hustling.
2: Earth spins at about 1670 km per hour. How pathetic. Not even Mach 10.
I reckon we’d left the Milky Way in a tangential direction a long time ago without gravity and electromagnetic forces. In fact no Milky Way would even exist in the first place. Fortunately it’s just an image plastered on the flat earth firmament cupola.
It’s all fake.
🤣👍👍
Or maybe nothing is moving….
Yes, the matrix is real, it is faking objective reality just for you.
Ever wondered in what kind of medium the matrix exists in? How about The Universe^2.
“Tutels” all the way down, straight into CT land.
Do like the wise old Gautama did and stick your hand into the moist soil and feel the dirt and texture, that’s the closest you’ll ever be to a representation of objective reality.
Every idea and sensation that is the output of neurological processes is a representation. Figuring out Objective Reality is forever impenetrable for all representational systems embedded within itself.
Which means you’re the matrix.
How about that brain fsck?
CTG – simulation. https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81425
Dice Game >>> an.al se.x — Mass De (no?) https://t.me/TommyRobinsonNews/49556
The downside of being obese – you roll easily https://t.me/leaklive/15147
haha COVID Death Shot Propaganda https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/81423
Going way, way, way back to the French Revolution…. Ever heard of the Vendee Rising?
Michael Davies speaks on the Catholic response in the Vendee to the persecution in France. The battles, the heroism, the leaders, & the genocide that the French State did to them & history is quiet about. From his book “For Altar & Throne”.
The rising lead to what could be described as the first modern genocide. The details, which are related from about the 40 minute mark, are not for the faint-hearted.
The flaming Sacred Heart of Jesus seen in the video was also an important symbol for the Requetes, or Carlists, who supported Franco in the Civil War in Spain and were later betrayed by him.
They were also the people who tried to kill my grandfather in 1936; but I rather respect them, as they were brave and sincere – true crusaders, in fact.
Sincerity alone is not the highest virtue, of course…..
They are perfect examples of what Lenin called “Useful idiots”.
Yes, Kulm, useful idiots indeed!
Well, there are lots of useful idiots just begging to be put to good or bad use.
Like most country people, and like most “backward” people, they were very conservative. They wanted to be left alone by the steamroller of “progress”. Religious sentiment notwithstanding, they preferred the old order to the new one. The French Revolutionary thugs were never going to let that happen.
Kulm, you say that your family lost its land and position to the Communist Revolution in Russia. I would have expected a bit of empathy if not solidarity with the many other victims of progress. Your situation is not very different from that of the Vendee. If and when the bulldozer comes, people basically have three choices, namely fight, flee, or be flattened.
Given what they did eventually led Europe to decline, despite of the late Dr Robert Firth’s claim that Europe was saved by Wellington’s victory in Waterloo, and also leading to the rise of United States whose flawed ideology eventually led the world to the current situation, what the Vendeans did was wrong.
Napoleon knew the world would be overrun by the Third world, and although he married a Creole, he did fire General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas, the father of the author of Monte Cristo and also the first black general in modern europe, and Dumas died in poverty (his son vilified Napoleon wherever he could in his many books).
We don’t know how the world would have ended up with Napoleon’s Empire extant. But it would probably not be worse than what we are facing now. The French did not provided scientific education to people under their rule, unlike the British which did and making science and engineering flooded by people who had no stake in Western Civilization, for the sake of the West the French system would have been superior.
Since the Vendeans helped to bring the world to where it is now, the blood is on their hands.
The British have to thank the Vendeans for helping them in 1815.
The Vendeans are hardscrabble hillbillies who were never really important, and their f’kup significantly contributed to the current world.
They , even now, do not celebrate the French Revolution and still think it is ancien regime, forgetting that for their troubles in 1793 and 1815 they were never really thanked by the Bourbons, who had no time for lowlives like them.
Since the Anglo-Americans failed the world, they will be held responsible after the barbarians storm the gardens, and the Vendeans will share the responsibility.
Norman will doubtless have a lot of fun explaining this away. The Vice President of the United States uses the words “when we reduce the population” in a speech.
Freudian slip?
Misreading of the teleprompter?
Saying the quiet part out loud?
https://rumble.com/v304so0-kabbalah-harris-when-we-reduce-the-population….html
They never put that on the teleprompter – unless the purpose was to divert from UEP
the population cannot grow indefinitely, therefore it must decline
Harris made no mention of reducing it by 90%—and there is no ”conspiracy” to do so
do try not to add words and meaning where none exist Tim, it makes you sound even more foolish than usual.
Harris was just pointing out the obvious, not advocating a mass cull
Do try harder.
Tut tut, Norm, being gratuitously insulting once again! NOF indeed.
If you bother to read the exact words, it is evident that she is referring to three – inter-linked – policy goals:
1/ Transition to clean energy,
2// Drive EV’s, and
3/ Reduce population.
You are the one imposing, and unconvincingly, your own interpretation, not Tim.
Do try harder.
Thanks, Xabier. I find our Norman is becoming increasingly incoherent of late.
Keep in mind the NOF believes we can fly through the Van Allen Belts despite NASA stating that is not possible
Here norm … NASA admits it:
https://youtu.be/4O5dPsu66Kw?t=181
Norman, please point out where I “added words and meaning where none exist”.
Please show where I misquoted VP Harris by quoting my exact words and hers.
Please show where I made any mention that Harris spoke about reducing population by 90%.
And please stop projecting in such an obvious and sloppy fashion. It will only fuel rumors that you really are suffering from accelerated senescence (which, of course, we hope you aren’t) due to all those toxins you’ve allowed yourself to be injected with.
Also, you really shouldn’t let yourself get triggered, especially on a beautiful sunny summer Sunday morning. There’s a good chap.
So, you think Kamala was “just point out the obvious”. That doesn’t make sense at all.
My take is that obviously she was reading from a teleprompter. (I’ve heard she is capable of doing that well enough although she is not very good at speaking without a script.) She was giving a speech about moving to clean green sustainable renewable energy, and the word she was supposed to say next was “pollution”. She was supposed to say “when we reduce pollution”. But somehow “pollution” came out as “population.”
Why “population”? That’s the mystery. The two words bear a passing resemblance, but I wouldn’t mix them up in a million years.
Perhaps Kamala is slightly dyslexic?
Tim
if verbal somersaults are not perfectly timed—you land on your head (damage limitation exercise though—I guess.
>>> quote—-Norman will doubtless have a lot of fun explaining this away. The Vice President of the United States uses the words “when we reduce the population” in a speech.
Freudian slip?<<<<<<
That was your typical "Grovian'' aha moment–or should that be Grovesian?
I had mentioned that no populatiron reduction–control–or whatever—was being planned by any elite
But then Harris pops up using the words…''when we reduce the population'' confirming your own interpretation of it.
Mr Groves instantly starts leaping up and down—you make a clear mental leap between the two—then deny carrying any such meaning to your words.;;
Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Pagett!
Grovesian, definitely.
You are the only one leaping up and down around here, Norman. Tardive dyskinesia can be a side effect of too many jabs.
You seem to projecting again and getting increasingly confused. My question mark after “Freudian slip” was just that, a question mark. Indicating that I was posing a question.
I want norm to explain why NASA is trying to build a machine that can allow humans to pass through the Van Allen Belts and survive
https://youtu.be/4O5dPsu66Kw?t=181
Harris said, “if we reduce”, not if we dont get so many children or if we prefer quality over quantity or if we keep reduction in mind.
If you translate “we reduce” word-for-word into German it is an active process, taking people out of business. Nothing where you let things happen.
Perhaps it is different for a native speaker?
I understood the phrase
” If we reduce”
to mean making the means/incentives available to gradually bring about a reduction in numbers, by birth control etc.
certain ofw inmates seized on the word ”reduce”—and added the inference to it, so that it was then linked to mandatory methods—as i have seen often suggested in here,
”they—the elite–the elders”—want to killus all off and have the planet to themselves
that was why it was pointed out to me with Grovesian glee—look look—harris is part of the murderous elite—she actually said ”reduce the population”
nuff said
Jan is correct. Harris used reduce as transitive verb. In this case, the general meaning is to make something smaller.
This is beside that point, because she obviously misread or mispronounced “pollution” as “population”.
The question remains, why did she do this?
Norman is jumping the gun, missing the point, overstating his case, beating about the bush, grasping the wrong end of the stick, getting his knickers in a twist, and obscuring the main issue here.
But there’s no need to panic. This is all par for the course where Norman’s concerned.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reduce-population-kamala-harriss-verbal-slip-sparks-outrage
“’Reduce Population’: Kamala Harris Verbal Slip-Up Corrected By White House”
Kamala doesn’t seem to have progeny of her own, so let’s cut her some slack over that. However, I’m sure she finds other means of projecting the Monkey Business by emitting copious plumes of CO2. As for the rest of the amateur hour eugenicists and eager perpetrators of the collective subconscious mired in obnoxious expectations:
YOUR CHILDREN FIRST, OR ELSE!
🌎💥☄️☄️☄️ 🛸 💨 💨 💨
😂👍🎉
9:40 mark … what was the reason for doing this? (doesn’t it feel like he’s reading that from a script? Notice how he accepts the answer .. no questioning)
Unbridled vaccine ideology.
https://rumble.com/v303udo-dr.-peter-mccullough-issues-emergency-warning-cancer-virus-found-in-covid-s.html
Hmmmm….
Also I did not notice a Call to Action in any of this … like maybe a riot down a the Pfizer HQ….
Round and round … round and round … accomplishing … zero — if the goal is to stop the ‘evil’… this is not going to cut it (maybe that’s the point?)
in the west we are locked into 100% controlled. Everyone has a gun at their head more likely many guns at their head. Action is impossible. The system must first burn to the ground.
It certainly looks grim in the Fee West’: free for psychopaths to do their worst? Although I see determined large-scale jabbing is now underway in Africa.
Ironically, the only freedom from the poison-injectors, if they return to the attack – as seems both likely and imminent – may turn out to be death itself.
We always have the power to say No, unless one happens to be like those poor people in care homes or mentally retarded who were grabbed and injected even as they protested.
Even if this results in our elimination, we will have at last gained freedom from their evil system, their insufferable lies, their constant attempts to manipulate us though threats, fear, and false promises. Some tribes escaped the Romans by choosing defiance and death rather than conquest.
And how that fate will seem to us, will partly depend as to whether we think that death is definitively the end, as pure materialists do, or if we believe that individual consciousness does not end with the death of the body (which needn’t imply ‘eternal life’ however, as perhaps only the Divine is eternal.)
Their whole power lies in 1/ the ignorance of the general population as to what is happening and 2/ the compliance of the masses (who include the police, a military, judiciary, medical profession, etc), without which compliance They are powerless to implement their agenda, which obviously depends on the induction of the overwhelming majority.
So, for the time being there is no need to give up hope completely and every effort should be expended in getting people to wake up and say when the time comes ‘No!’
No citing of unbiased sources, no reference to independent studies, no futile attempt to persuade through reason, just an unmoveable negative response.
Enough people saying No will tip the balance against Them. I expect the campaign of coercion to be – if that is possible – even worse than what was seen in 2021-22 though – this is make or break time for both sides.
Fortune Favours the Brave!
Dr Mike Yeadon says that he now prays, which is interesting.
When Yeadon trains with his militia it will be interesting.
I assume Mike has private jet level $$$$….. for the life of me — I cannot understand why he bothers with the Covid stuff… just get on the plane and explore the delights of the best flesh pots on the planet… sure – say a prayer between lines if that makes one feel better.
What’s that? He wants to do exactly that but it’s boring doing this alone … Ok – well I’ll volunteer to join …
Out of control ‘vaccine ideology’ does not go anywhere near explaining what has happened over the last three years. McCullough knows this.
Nor does mere money-making by Big Pharma, or well-intentioned human error or even blatant corruption on the part of govts and regulators.
So yes, why does he offer this as an explanation?
I watched that entire interview — and afterwards I felt dirty… (like norm feels after a drunken binge that inevitably ends with a romp with the fester Out Back the Dumpster where SSS takes advantage of him and empties out his wallet)….
It felt scripted… it felt used-car salesman-ish…. I felt used…
I came away thinking … maybe all the Thought Leaders are agents of the UEP PR Team…
Consider that not a single one of them – not one — advocates taking any action … zero.
Essentially all that they do day in and day out is entertain the A-Vaxxers… they have no impact on the Vaxxers — cuz the vast majority of the Vaxxers trust bbccnn and Fauchi exclusively – they dismiss SS (see norm keith mike)
Consider the scale of UEP — the plan was without a doubt hatched decades ago — they would have started to think about what to do when energy reached a tipping point well in advance… in the 60’s or 70’s…
And UEP would be the most important issue on the plates of the Elders and their Minions — it would be the primary consideration across a wide range of polices:
> Economics/Finance – what can be done to squeeze every last moment out of BAU — how do we ensure we keep the system alive… e.g. how do we create a situation where it is possible to extract fracked oil without destroying growth?
> Technology – make funds available to explore alternatives and hope for a miracle… or at the very least replace some of the fossil fuels to extend BAU e.g. nuclear
> Education — rig the curriculum to foster compliancy — to ensure that when the end game comes the MOREONS go quietly
> Medical — how to kill 8 billion people in a very short time frame with as little violence as possible
PR/Advertising — how to convince 8 billion MOREONS to take an injection that does not stop a diseased — that maims and kills … and promotes mutations.
Given the importance UEP — why would they not have approached men like McCullough … Malone… Kirsch etc… and briefed them on the situation?
If they were told the truth — that we are f789ed no matter what … and the two options were put in front of them — ROF vs UEP… would they not be totally supportive of UEP?
Would they not believe they would be doing a good thing by assisting with UEP?
Of course they would.
And they would come across as sincere — and convincing … cuz they would believe this is a very desperate situation and it is important that everything possible is done to ensure UEP does not fail.
Good stuff https://rumble.com/v303udo-dr.-peter-mccullough-issues-emergency-warning-cancer-virus-found-in-covid-s.html
Cancer virus. LOL.
Remember, where there’s a virus, there’s a vaccine, or will be.
In fact, wasn’t mRNA technology developed initially to “fight cancer”? You see?
No worries.
It’s not a conspiracy theory, when they say it.
”Reduce Population’: Kamala Harris Verbal Slip-Up Corrected By White House“
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/reduce-population-kamala-harriss-verbal-slip-sparks-outrage
Excerpt: When we invest in clean energy and electric vehicles and reduce population, more of our children can breathe clean air and drink clean water,” she continued.
Yes, it is the end of all logic thinking!
This is the first time I have looked at this …
That’s not a slip – unless she has a vax brain injury … otherwise she’d correct herself.
norm – what do you hear — I hear reduce population (she’s reading this off a teleprompter – ya think she can’t read?)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1679988366618624000
Yes, you correct yourself immediately, unless retarded.
As when you say a cheery ‘Good Morning!’ realise it’s afternoon and correct.
Last year, an EU official observed that ‘renewables would work well, but with a smaller population.’
Alas, no reference to hand.
Really, it is not surprising, that thoughts should run in this direction, is it?
What is the main impact on food production caused by clmt chng that I can see?
You can not grow the same crops. The plums, apples, pears, apricots and peaches provide the crops erratically in my area. There are years of abundance of some of them, but, more often, they are damaged by a sudden spring frost. On the other hand, the trees need watering during the heat and drought periods. As if the bushes with berries are becoming a more reliable option than fruit trees.
So I started to cultivate various bushes with berries, grapes, strawberries. Also, with the ageing population, this seems to be a more viable option than the trees that need a complicated pruning for which there is less and less workforce. Besides the need for the new varieties that are frost and disease resistant, the protective netting against birds that like the berries is also required.
Also the raised beds with compost for vegetables are inevitable, as the barren clay hardens into rock during the drought periods. The drip irrigation due to the water scarcity becomes inevitable, too.
There is no way back. We have to adapt.
“… provide the crops erratically in my area.”
I bet erratic crops have been around since far before the days of early humans.
and I bet you can’t prove that it wasn’t true.
imagine how erratic those crops were in the transition from the last ice–age to warmer conditions.
it’s always been “adapt”… survival of the fit enough, perhaps you’ve heard?
But there were far less people. The reliability of the crops was not so much important. Moreover, various big mammals are extinct, the soil is washed away, depleted or polluted. The rivers have become pollution carriers. We have heaps of accumulated waste that pollutes groundwater, too.
There is no way back.
No way back for 8 billion but yes a way back for 8 million.
Masanobu Fukuoka in Japan (1913-2008) produced as much food (tonnes/hectare) as conventional farms, using no-dig organic farming. Like others, he realised that ploughing the soil had disastrous effects on the environment.
When I read the 2015 book it appeared that Japan is so conformist that relatively few people copied him. Maybe more people in the USA followed the techniques.
The UK discusses feeding itself less than it did in the mid 1970s. But a lot of older suburban gardens, pre-1950s/60s could probably feed a couple by using no-dig organic techniques. Regenerative farmers who are making a decent living range from Richard Perkins (Sweden) to Joel Salatin (Virginia), lots also keep a lower profile.
I suspect that small farmers in developing countries know all this. The book said that people in India took more notice of Fukuoka’s work than in any other country.
You need o.lot of compost, which a small garden can not provide: 5 cubic meters of green biomass provides only 1 cubic meter of compost.
https://youtu.be/zwF__wGHyP8
There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.
One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/
The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.
Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/
@MG That’s right! But to create biomass you don’t necessarily need arable land. A green roof, a rocky area, a forest might be of help! Now the problem arises how to carry biomass without fossiles…
From my point of view there is no possibility to feed 8 billion but perhaps more than the assumed 1-3 billion. It depends on what we do and how we prepare.
When 10 mio people live in a city and then more or less over night electricity, water and food supply breaks down, where could these people go to? They wont even have the shoes to go anywhere. Without fossiles it is not possible to provide a city that size, there are enough historic studies to show that. It cannot be done by horse, ox, boat, raft etc. There cannot be enough biomass and food produced within a walkable distance.
For those that have a datcha and storaged fuel, be aware that you might not be able to leave the city, because the masses block the street. Additionally some elites might want to protect you from harm and therefore deny your human rights. As complex systems crumble to levels of lower complexity after reaching a tipping-point, we have to assume sudden changes.
So whatever is going to happen, population will shrink. At the end it will shrink to the level of carrying capacity and this capacity depends for a large part also on what we do. For example the pre-agriculture farmers (without tools from metal) were in the hundreds per square kilometer more than hunter gatherers – but not in the millions.
If we find a possibility to slow down population growth without fossile crash, then people can live until their natural end.
If we think and prepare, we can within the natural limits (that noone knows, because it depends on what we do, on the solutions we find, that’s why I think it is time to look for these solutions!) supply people on the upper end of the limits.
If we go on with the party after a major crash there will be no food, no irrigation, no seeds, no biomass, no knowledge, no structure, no repaired soil to sow for the next year – and no lifestock. There are not so many wild forests full of deers as you might think in Europe – perhaps in Canada! Which means, until then people have to live from reserves. I dont even wanna think about it!
we can feed 1 or 3 bn
that isn’t the problem
the problem lies in the fact that the rest will remain convinced that BAU is being denied to them (by you know who)
therefore violent conflict will be inevitable
the result of that will be that hardly anything will be left available to anybody.
I abhor a vacuum
There are 4000 Spent Fuel Ponds Around the Globe…
If you don’t cool the spent fuel, the temperature will rise and there may be a swift chain reaction that leads to spontaneous combustion–an explosion and fire of the spent fuel assemblies. Such a scenario would emit radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Pick your poison. Fresh fuel is hotter and more radioactive, but is only one fuel assembly. A pool of spent fuel will have dozens of assemblies.
One report from Sankei News said that there are over 700 fuel assemblies stored in one pool at Fukushima. If they all caught fire, radioactive particles—including those lasting for as long as a decade—would be released into the air and eventually contaminate the land or, worse, be inhaled by people. “To me, the spent fuel is scarier. All those spent fuel assemblies are still extremely radioactive,” Dalnoki-Veress says.
It has been known for more than two decades that, in case of a loss of water in the pool, convective air cooling would be relatively ineffective in such a “dense-packed” pool. Spent fuel recently discharged from a reactor could heat up relatively rapidly to temperatures at which the zircaloy fuel cladding could catch fire and the fuel’s volatile fission product, including 30-year half-life Cs, would be released. The fire could well spread to older spent fuel. The long-term land-contamination consequences of such an event could be significantly worse than those from Chernobyl.
http://science.time.com/2011/03/15/a-new-threat-in-japan-radioactive-spent-fuel/
Japan’s chief cabinet secretary called it “the devil’s scenario.” Two weeks after the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami devastated the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant, causing three nuclear reactors to melt down and release radioactive plumes, officials were bracing for even worse. They feared that spent fuel stored in pools in the reactor halls would catch fire and send radioactive smoke across a much wider swath of eastern Japan, including Tokyo.
https://energyskeptic.com/2017/the-devils-scenario-near-miss-at-fukushima-is-a-warning-for-u-s/
The Chernobyl accident was relatively minor, involved no spent fuel ponds, and was controlled by pouring cement onto the reactor. This was breaking down so a few years back they re-entombed.
Estimates of the cancer burden in Europe from radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl accident
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16628547/
Oh no!
https://3c1703fe8d.site.internapcdn.net/newman/gfx/news/2015/japansnuclea.jpg
In my region agriculture will be abandoned so fast it will be like it never existed. Grizzly bears and beavers will rule the landscape.
Higher consciousness will be domain of Sasquatch…..it will take a long while for modern humans to learn to survive here again.
Very true: in our part of N. Spain about 50% of the wells have water unfit for consumption due to contamination by industrial agriculture and industry.
The soil must be either sterile or poisoned too – probably both.
And this region was only modernised and industrialised from the 1960’s and still has a strong rural character.
We’ve turned Mother Nature, who nourished and killed in the great cycle of the centuries, into a pretty whore with VD, infect in one night of thoughtless indulgence.
Oh well, at least the wine still tastes good. Salud!
Have a good mate who is contemplating moving to the south coast of Spain — he’s got an EU passport (Eastern European) …. under 40 — not retired…
Background is hotel/hospitality senior management but not interested in working that industry unless absolutely necessary.
Has some Spanish but expects to be able to learn within a year and explore business opportunities.
Any cold water to throw on that?
South of Spain only during the winter, now the heat must be unbearable there.
How can you grow any food during such scorching heat?
I bet water will more and more scarce there.
He’s not a doomer. Doesn’t care about growing food
There is a lack of workforce not just for the care of the plants, but for picking, too. The fruits and vegetables become practically unaffordable and unavailable.
There is a 2023 early parliamentary elections campaign going on in Slovakia now. We can hear and see a heap of new promises. One of the political parties (Sme Rodina) promised cheap rental homes during the previous parliamentary elections campaign, which, of course, failed in reality. Now they promise cheap domestic fruits and vegetables, which, of course, will fail, too.
MG thanks for this. US is at the rents are unaffordable stage. Makes sense food is unaffordable will be next.
Time to move to Italy?
It is a policy offered from some remote towns which became famous in the newspapers.
It is not a general policy.
It concerns just some remote town in place inhabitans abondoned because there are no industries, no officies, no hospitals, no highways and so on.
It doesn’t make sense if you are retired because you need some medical support sometime, it doesn”t make sense for holidays because normally there are no lakes, no sea, no mountains in the sorroundings, it doesn”t make sense for farming because there are normally only forests in the sorroundings.
Although we have in Italy thousands of immigrants arriving daily from Africa or Middleast or Asia, they don”t go there because they prefer to go to the cities to try to find a job or some public support.
It is just an extreme attempt by some Mayors to try to stay alive as a town.
Also after Fauci you still have not learnt yet how not to be fooled by Italians.
Thanks for the ‘color’ on that, nothing better than on-the-ground info. It would be like self-imposed serfdom, being obliged to upgrade and maintain these abandoned houses.
From the video these places seem to lack fresh water.
He does not have to be a doomer, just the availability is going down: either of the food or the caregiver staff.
Last summer was fierce here, and the apples did much better than the berries which were literally zapped by the sun and reduced to dry black inedible lumps long before they could be picked.
This year sun and rain are alternating beautifully.
Gooseberries seem to flourish here whatever the weather, and are ready for picking long before the real heat can come.
I am just eating mine gooseberries during these days.
Some blueberries suffer scorching by the hot air.
Most fruit crops seem to do well here: apples, pears, (most) plums, apricots, figs, strawberries, raspberries, gooseberries, blackcurrants. The last apple from 2022 was eaten in June 2023 (still in good condition).
I’d rate white and red currants as a total waste of space though, also peaches and cherries are too much work in this climate.
Most fruit is easier to grow than annual vegs. The UK imports 80-85% of its fruit, hard to believe.
Slovakia used to grow a lot of vegetables and fruits in the south basin, near the Danube. The population there is aged now and the need for cheap food means that you buy onion e.g. from Australia, garlic from China and tomatoes from Israel here.
This is why the Universe was designed with random variation in offspring and survival of the best adapted. This way, some of the population can make it through the bottleneck caused by climate variations, even if all of the population cannot. The problem of changing weather patterns and climates has been around since the beginning of time.
An Irish-Scots friend, young and slim, really suffers in even modest heat, and I just go quickly brown and sail along merrily thanks to my Southern genes.
“The Ancient City” referenced previously.
Today, sitting on patio, started reading the preface, seems consistent with what we are seeing and a good explanation. My reading was interrupted by a gopher who had a heart attack, previous resident under the patio. Services will be held tomorrow, Sunday.
Much thunder and lightning, no rain; corn still looks good. Talked with someone this evening, beans look bad, crop insurance to the rescue; how does one eat crop insurance, any ideas?
Dennis L.
We can’t eat money.
Five Russian nuclear site hit by drones. Legacy media refuses to report.
Nuland is hot to bathe the alter of Moloch in the blood of hundreds of millions.
I doubt even FE on a high could come up with invective adequate for describing Nuland.
well then, how much do you think Vlad the Great will increase the firepower on the Ukraine?
Time to tactical nuke the weapons caches in Poland.
Vlad has to realize this is war. It is not safe. He has to hit the enemy not just the slaves in Ukraine. Berlin, London, Washington.
as you well know, I am very confident that Vlad the Great and his General Staff have a far greater understanding of the nuances of this situation than either of us.
so Vilnius is over, and the SMO gets amped up?
we’ll see (though maybe just not in the MSM).
For sure Vlad and the General Staff have far better info and education in war and global politics.
Certainly not in the MSM. There is surprisingly open info from other sources.
Russia needs to amp up its psyop in the minds of the Ukrainian soldiers. Tell them they are being used as slaves to enrich the Kasharian Mafia that owns Ukraine.
Maybe Putin can not tell the truth about the owning class F^&**ing the working class because the same is true in Russia. The same is certainly true in US and China.
The description of where drone attacks against nuclear installations of various types have taken place starts around 8:00. Are these attacks an attempt to provoke further escalation from Russia? Many/all of these seem to be in Russian-held territory.
Fake
For anyone interested in the deeper story regarding Carl Sagan versus Immanuel Velikovsky, I ran across a free pdf of a book I once owned. It’s quite a read if you have the time. Velikovsky got quite a few things right but his overall conception of what caused a series of ancient cataclysms was way off base. There’s been a ton of research since Earth in Upheaval and Worlds in Collision were written.
Author Charles Ginenthal put 8-years into researching and writing this 377-page book. It’s the work of a master with an exquisite touch and a passion for science.
https://robscholtemuseum.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Charles-Ginenthal-Carl-Sagan-Immanuel-Velikovsky.pdf
BTW – a much more satisfying, convincing and massively documented work on the questions that Velikovsky was trying to answer, was published in 1995
Cataclysm: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.,
written by D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair.
(introduction by Rand Flem-Ath, co-author of When the Sky Fell)
This link says:
Astronomers wouldn’t believe Velikovsky. They would even give him a fair hearing on what the had to say. This book tries to give the full story.
There are many strange things that have happened that have allowed humans to live on earth. I suppose these things could be some of them.
I just asked Sage to list the things Velikovsky got right in his research and predictions. Not what I was hoping for but good enough. That’s usually how it is. I find I have to keep asking more specific questions usually. Here’s her answer.
Immanuel Velikovsky was a controversial figure in the fields of history and science, and many of his theories and predictions have been widely criticized and disputed by experts in these fields. However, there are some areas in which Velikovsky’s work has been seen as influential or prescient by some researchers and scholars. Here are a few examples:
Catastrophism: Velikovsky’s theories about catastrophic events in Earth’s history, including his suggestion that ancient myths and legends may be based on actual events, were seen as a precursor to the field of catastrophism, which has gained some acceptance in recent years.
Planetary science: Velikovsky’s book “Worlds in Collision” included some predictions and hypotheses about the characteristics of certain planets and their histories that have been borne out by later scientific discoveries and observations.
Historical revisionism: Velikovsky’s theories about ancient history, including his suggestion that certain events in the Bible and other ancient texts may have been misdated or misinterpreted, have been seen as influential in the field of historical revisionism.
It’s worth noting that many of Velikovsky’s theories and predictions have been widely criticized and disputed by experts in the relevant fields, and his work is generally not considered to be mainstream or widely accepted.
“Catastrophism: Velikovsky’s theories about catastrophic events in Earth’s history, including his suggestion that ancient myths and legends may be based on actual events…”
sounds reasonable.
super-stitious uneducated ancient humans didn’t live through many millennia of pleasant undisturbed environments.
we can still see the foundations of their massformationpsychosis in their existing writings that surely used celestial and earthly events as source material.
their fictions certainly had sources in their lived experiences.
and probably some measure of amnesia mixed in with the post-cataclysm mental confusion (lasting how long?) per Julian Jaynes and his Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind; an amazing romp through ancient Greekdom, oracles, talking heads, divination, and more. His work is still honored over at https://www.julianjaynes.org/
They were taking a lot of drugs.
This seems impossible. Venus has a density of 5.4 (silicon iron), and it was born out of a planet with density 1.3 (compressed hydrogen)? and somehow it got itself into a near circular orbit near the Sun, does he know that this maneuver requires two burns (changes of momentum) for a rocket? where is the second burn coming from?
Interesting point!
Amazon book blurb for Cataclysm:
“Follow this multi-disciplinary, scientific study as it examines the evidence of a great global catastrophe that occurred only 11,500 years ago. Crustal shifting, the tilting of Earth’s axis, mass extinctions, upthrusted mountain ranges, rising and shrinking land masses, and gigantic volcanic eruptions and earthquakes–all indicate that a fateful confrontation with a destructive cosmic visitor must have occurred. The abundant geological, biological, and climatological evidence from this dire event calls into question many geological theories and will awaken our memories to our true–and not-so-distant–past.”
who knew?
Indeed. I had grocery bags of cataclysm books going back to the 70’s and I gave them all away after reading Cataclysm. There’s so much information in it and the references are a mile long. I must have read it at least 5 times over the years.
how much of this cataclysm could have been caused by the transition from the last ice–age to warmer cli–mate conditions?
or otherwise…
could this cataclysm have caused the end of the last ice–age?
is there some direction to the cause and effect in there?
or did “something” cause both the cataclysm and the end of the ice–age?
surely it’s not merely coincidental.
It’s a bit difficult to summarize the evidence they have amassed that ice-ages in the sense that we’ve been led to believe did not occur. The profound changes resulting from “Phaeton” (aka Marduk, aka Enlil) plowing through the solar system (likely a chunk of the Vela supernova) have confounded (imho) researchers since the puzzle has so many pieces and the cross-disciplinary sorting and arrangement has been quite a challenge. The authors explain in great detail what Phaeton did to every planet it came near to on its way towards Earth. I’ll go check if Sage does a good summary of it.
Typical Sage response. Not bad but not great. She’s wrong to use the word “comet”, they’re very clear that Phaeton was not a comet. Here’s her summary:
“Cataclysm: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.” is a book by D.S. Allan and J.B. Delair that presents a theory about a catastrophic event that is believed to have occurred around 9,500 BCE. The authors argue that this event was caused by a comet that passed close to Earth, causing widespread destruction and leading to significant changes in the Earth’s climate and geography.
The book presents a wide range of evidence to support this theory, including geological and paleontological data, ancient myths and legends, and historical accounts from around the world. The authors argue that this event had a profound impact on human history, leading to the development of many ancient civilizations and influencing the course of human evolution.
“Cataclysm” has been both praised and criticized for its theories and arguments. Some scientists and researchers have praised the authors for their interdisciplinary approach and the breadth of evidence presented in the book. Others have criticized the book for its reliance on interpretations of ancient myths and legends, and for the lack of mainstream scientific evidence to support its claims.
Overall, “Cataclysm” presents a provocative theory about a catastrophic event in Earth’s history, and has sparked a great deal of discussion and debate among scientists and researchers in a variety of fields.
Everybody points to the Younger Dryas as a time when some big “stuff” happened. It is still a work in progress.
Sage… What is the asteroid belt?
Omitting Sage’s hand-holding and foreplay, here’s the gist of a decent answer to “what did ancient peoples believe about where the asteroid belt came from”
For example, in ancient Greek mythology, the god Zeus is said to have defeated the Titans, a group of powerful and unruly gods, and banished them to the far reaches of the cosmos. Some interpretations of this myth suggest that the asteroid belt may have been created from the debris left over from this cosmic battle.
Similarly, in ancient Babylonian mythology, the god Marduk is said to have defeated the chaos monster Tiamat and created the world from her body. Some interpretations of this myth suggest that the asteroid belt may have been created from the debris left over from the destruction of Tiamat.
why would they have to theorize about asteroids? they had no telescopes and could not see them.
Because we’ve got the audacity to believe the current incarnation of Rapacious Primate’s IC to be the only one in the history of earth.
After all, how many well-placed nukes would it take to send IC back into the Stone Age, or say, a rapid depletion of fossil fuels?
Not much of a trace would we leave either. Just another few perplexing ruins for future archeologists to excavate.
Livestream on volcanic eruption in Iceland. Diamond Dave also tells us what he really thinks about Ben Davidson. They’ve been feuding for awhile over some arctic research done a long time ago and the extrapolations thereof. Turned Diamond and his partner Leah on to the Ethical Skeptic paper a few weeks ago and they did a pretty good show on it. Staying on the Magma Trail for the foreseeable future here.
Oh no, think of all the CO2 that is being released! Where is Greta?!
That’d be a great photo-op, her shaking her fist at it, with the police trying to drag her back from the edge.
oh okay, I’ll say it:
Greta (shaking fist at volcano):
“How dare you!”
We need moar taxes! Gotta plug that volcano asap!
The guys over at the Annunaki home world (forgot it’s name) must be envious, we’re afraid of volcanoes, while they depend on them.
Got any gold bugs with their bars to send over to the guys there?
What a ridiculous psyop that spans millennia. Even now, yes even now Billy G want to spray some powder into the atmosphere to blot out the sun.
However, I wouldn’t mind a bit darker, glowing reddish and slower day cycle. But I’m not sure I’m going to trust Billy G for this one.
It’s just another absurdity.
In the mean time:
YOLO!
MOAR!
HYPERS GONNA HYPER!
TRYHARDS GONNA TRYHARD!
MOARONS GONNA MOARON!
THE ETERNAL RECURRENCE OF MONKEY BUSINESS!
🤣👍👍
Narrator expects that some other large volcanos will “go boom” also. This volcano could continue to produce magna for months.
It would seem as if CO2 in the atmosphere could increase if these volcanoes erupting.
We now have a problem fires in Canada. I suppose these are producing a lot of CO2 as well.
I’d suggest they are trying desperately to fend off an ice age… but as we know … after burning trillions of barrels of oil and trillions of tonnes of coal… the temperatures over the past 50 years are not out of the ordinary…
So I won’t suggest they are trying to warm the planet
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Shale-Challenges-OPEC-With-Record-Production-In-2023.html
“The EIA has forecast total U.S. output will hit 12.61M bbl/day in the current year, eclipsing the previous record of 12.32M bbl/day.” (set in 2019)
“U.S. crude oil output is up 9% Y/Y”
crude oil = real oil
give me a B, give me an A, give me a U.
what do you got there?
oily black goo BAU tonight, baby baby!
If you look at the article, it is talking about the possibility that refracting will give new life to old wells:
If this is true, it wold seem to be possible that US shale wells can deliver more oil. We know that there is a lot more oil left, even after supply seems to fail.
yes we will have to wait a bit longer to see how productive and economical the refracking really is.
Guess: It is not, typical S curve, no growth left.
Dennis L.
then where will the energy resources come from to R&D and manufacture all the equipment that’s needed to do outer space mining and manufacturing?
a conundrum?
a dilemma?
It is the only way out; all bets on space. If one loses, it is the same as BAU, safe bet.
No sarcasm, hope, opportunity.
Dennis L.
If you believe, go short oil trusts, e. g. SBR, if you think oil will go up, long SBR. SJT for gas.
My guess, deflation. Much of today’s purchases are funded by sale of receivables by the seller and often those are recourse. If the person(customer) paying fails to pay, the receivables go back to the merchant and he/she writes a check, if possible.
I don’t think the receivables are worth NRV, so a haircut is coming which is deflationary.
Capital goods are another problem, have you noticed office buildings are dark at night? No tenants.
Dennis L.
I hear SSS can suck the chrome off a bumper… she gets small money applying that skill set to her work… how about we haul her a.ss to the Permian and get her to suck the Big Pipe… and get the flow going …
She could make the rounds and suck on all the Big Pipes and make a fortune.
Sorry norm — you’ll have to find a new pay to play GF
Oil and gas companies doing succession planning for having to replace all of their vaccinated workers:
https://ugetube.com/watch/oil-and-gas-companies-planning-on-vaccinated-employees-dying_g5uvUxKdwDQhR4N.html
Oh wait, that was June 2021 and everything’s still going fine.
GVB, where are you? ROF, where are you? BAU 2030!
oh noes, it’s coming soon!
by Autumn, and it’s guaranteed.
you just wait and see!
and if not by Autumn…
then by Winter for sure.
and I really mean it!
the depop is gonna blow your mind.
Now now… FE has a right to his opinion… even if it takes him a million posts and a few years to get his point across.
Try to teach a concept that normally requires at least a grade 9 level of education to a grade 3… is challenging.. specially when the grade 3 students are in slow learner class
add a badum tsss to that will ya
It’s going to destroy him when he realizes … dun dun dun … Norm was right!
On the other hand, in 2030 Eddy will probably be rubbing his hands together huddled in an alleyway between dumpsters: “Any day now, UEP ROF Binary Poison GVB Merek’s is coming! I know it!”
Cleaning up … https://i.postimg.cc/y8nbbpMn/Hoolio.png
The Rabbit Monster… is resting
https://i.postimg.cc/qRFQd9wX/Hoolio.png
Covid… the never ending pandemic … it just goes on and on and on and on and on … mutation after mutation after mutation …
All viruses can mutate, which helps the virus to evade the human immune system and cause infection and re-infection (infecting the same patient twice or more) to the human. The phenomenon is called viral escape (15, 16). This occurrence is one of the significant barriers to antiviral therapy and vaccine development. During this pandemic, the researcher has observed the emergence of SARS-CoV-2 variants rapidly through evolution. Some of these variants are associated with the appearance of immune escape. Understanding the emergence of new variants is genuinely required for controlling this virus (17).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8863680/
What can be causing this? Over to our resident experts…. (norm and keith should have a tee vee show! Two NOFS…)
https://youtu.be/A6j4ZClZIyY?t=9
Some viruses mutate a lot more and more rapidly than others.
Corona viruses are in this group.
Feel free to ignore this – or better still – just make stuff up …
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/tthis-chicken-vaccine-makes-virus-dangerous
no wonder why so many refer to you as Chicken Little.
but you are the Schadiator (see below).
Oh, it all makes sense now! Eddie is so concerned about Marek’s disease because he is actually a chicken!
Don’t worry Eddy, ROF will come for you soon enough:
I was hoping one of you might have the evidence that deploying leaky vaccines during a pandemic was not a problem – that we do it all the time… and that there are no risks…
Instead I get a very norm-like response
2 cardiac arrests @ Ed Sheeran concert, 17 hospitalized; Ron McElhenney diagnosed with “neurodevelopmental disorders” (at 46); Ty Pennington intubated; Morgan Freeman’s “medical emergency”
Wrestler Lodi undergoes quintuple bypass surgery after near-fatal heart attack; “UFC fighter’s debut called off because of rare brain disease”
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/2-cardiac-arrests-ed-sheeran-concert
More Schadding
Rosanna Arquette crashes into shopping center; Dick Vitale diagnosed with cancer for third time; Tiffany Chen (Robert de Niro’s girlfriend) has Bell’s palsy; Chika hospitalized with kidney failure
Madonna accused of faking her medical emergency; NY high school football player (with no history of heart problems) in a coma after “cardiac event” mid-game
https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/rosanna-arquette-crashes-into-shopping
The Vaxxers are oblivious… they will take more Boosters if cnnbbc urge them to
Why is cnnbbc not urging them to?
Remember what happens to the unvaxxed chickens … when they encounter Marek’s?
That’s why
and that’s why you are the Schadiator.
(portmanteau of schadenfreude + gladiator.)
Interesting hurricane projections from Ryan Hall and Colorado State
Original forecasts were for a little below average number of hurricanes because wind shear was expected to interfere with their formation. Now it looks like both the water of the Pacific and Atlantic are quite warm, so wind shear may not be a problem. Forecasts are being raised to somewhat above average number of hurricanes. In this scenario, there might be 5 major hurricanes, and some of them might hit the US.
Who is Ryan Hall?
Is he a climate scientist?
good question, he’s a showman for sure, has a network of storm-chasers, does some charity work, and obviously has his gig well-monetized. I enjoy his style and this one kind of fit with my Magma Trail thing when he mentioned Florida waters in the upper 90’s.
I’ve got a thing about hurricanes. My wife used to bring home old books from the Galveston library and one day I looked at the photographs of the 1900 storm that killed about 6,000 people, many of them from slate-tiles flying around like frisbees at 100mph, and I said “WTF are we doing here”. I was just a Yankee having fun down there hanging out with carpenters driven out of Michigan by Paul Volcker. I had no idea what a “barrier island” meant. We even used to drive out to the edges where the fishing shacks were during tropical storms where the water would be coming over the narrow roads and the sky would look green. I thought that was a hoot. Anyway, we left Galveston 5-days before Alicia hit. It was only a Cat 3 but it did a ton of damage and our little place was flooded we later learned.
Laughing quietly: So can one make any money on their forecasts? I am too practical I guess.
Dennis L.
Me too, Dennis. I’m sending it to old friends in the hill country south of Austin (as in, head for the hills) and suggesting they open seasonal Hurricane Heaven B&B’s on their properties. Maybe Cabanas or Texas Tiny Houses kind of thing.
I was eating breakfast at the Driskill Hotel one morning when buses were unloading Katrina refugees across the street, straggling away through town with their haphazard belongings. We had just been seeing massive traffic jams on the highways between Houston and Austin since a lot of Houstonians decided to head for the hills, even though they were 350 miles from where the storm was plotted to hit near New Orleans.
Somebody could get creative and buy old wood boats that people could sleep in dry-docked. Call it Any Port in a Storm B$B. There’s money in them there hills.
It is concerning that NATO has given Russia every pretext that it needs for a military expansion across NATO countries in Europe.
As Col. MacGregor said in his recent talk, we have not seen what Russia is capable of if it declares war.
And given the recently revealed armament limitations of NATO countries, it likely would not work out well for them.
WTF happens if UKR uses the long range missiles that NATO is now giving UKR against Moscow and other Russia cities?
It would basically be a red carpet invitation for Russia to retaliate against NATO.
NATO is playing a very dangerous game that risks very serious escalation.
NATO Poland is right next to Russia and Belarus and joins with NATO Germany and then France, so Russia would not have to go through any neutral countries to settle it.
Europe does this sort of thing to itself again and again, and USA is now ‘lending a hand’.
The formation of a Eurasian geopolitical bloc from Russia and China to the Atlantic could well be an outcome in that eventuality.
That sort of thing happened to western Europe with USA and NATO upon WWII while the east went under USSR.
And what if it all goes nuclear? The ‘adults’ left the room a long time ago?
Moscow Rips France Over SCALP Missiles To Ukraine That Can Hit Russian Mainland I Details
Russia has hit out at France over its decision to provide long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine. Russian foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said that “Paris has knowingly taken another step towards escalation of the Ukrainian conflict by pumping Kyiv terrorists with increasingly deadly weapons systems aimed at the new Russian territories, civilians, and civilian infrastructure.” French President Emmanuel Macron announced the supply of Scalp missiles to Ukraine during the recently held NATO meeting in Vilnius, Lithuania. Scalp missiles can travel 250 km to hit enemy targets, boosting the ability of Ukrainian forces. Watch this video to know more.
These links seem to go along with what we heard earlier. NATO can give Ukraine weapons, but it cannot control what Ukraine does with those weapons. It is risky business to give Ukraine weapons that Ukraine could use to hit Russia with.
Giving Ukraine such weapons is just another exercise in plausible deniability’, perhaps?
‘How could we be responsible for what they did?’
Good point!
So far Putin is resisting the urge to attack
On 1804, britain jumped into war against Nepoleon because N had assassinated the Duke of Enghien, a Bourbon nobleman who was living in some castle across the Rhine from the French border (at that time the French border was at the Rhine River).
Nato will probably have to kill some Russian exile living in the Western bloc to condemn Putin and attack Russia.
You see what happens Larry if you let Neanderthals have their way?
Especially the upgrated ones that can buy, wave, screw and post in unlimated quantities? Godmode in stupid games?
O my, am i looking forward to AI to finish this off once and forever.
This is Macron in a “my penis is bigger” match with Russia, the USA/NATO and especially those limp wimps in Berlin and Brussels.
It ‘s too bad his Napoleon/de Gaulle complex doesn’t find more constructive expression, like standing up the the US/NATO without escalating the war, plus solving France’s (and the EU’s) domestic energy and migrant problems. The former of which could be resolved by making nice with instead of threatening Russia.
I see an enlarged opportunity for Marie Le Pen here.
Le Pen is deep fake, She’s a pretend right placeholder captivator to suck in stupid right wingers. Just need to know who she sleeps with and it will become crystal clear.
The existence of choice between her and macron is deception.
Biden and trump are the same formula, this is repeated in Europe and every Western nation.
This structure of control exists because it simply works to regulate the masses perception, most of whom only vote on small issues anyway.
Even during ‘The Good Times’ swing voters did so based on as little as a 22 dollar per week tax break. We are conditioned to do so, while politicians beak every promise and rule they set for others, including in times like these, taking us now directly down the insane path of war.
Cluster bombs were outlawed, but now are suddenly okey against Russian lives, including civilians? Insane. Uranium depleted munitions, cruise missiles and F16’s supplied to and in the hands of maniacs flying and bombing the bread basket of the world, with the worlds largest nuclear plant nested nicely near the front line and adjacent the world’s second largest nuclear accident. For goodness sake!
How did it come to this? The main criteria to insure is that most feel unaffected psychologically and satiated as far as creature comforts and small wish fulfillments go for as long as possible, until they can be cut off in a way that blames an enemy. That sadly will be Russia’s label, for frustrating the beast in Syria and trying to have a media voice (RT, which you now need a VPN to access in some geographic countries)
Can we not see this modus in operation? Media restriction, Gas pipelines saboteurs, energy supply’s cut off or monopolised, riots, inflation, sanctions, mandated jabs. Arming idiots
Most aren’t interested in macron’s le-wee-pee
They’re preoccupied with thinking about their own ‘little things’
Their vision is now limited to their immediate concerns as pressure increases, it’s a mass distraction and drain, their mortgage, food security and jobs are front and centre now.
The real concern should be about the average size of peoples brains in the west (i should not pick on the French really) for tolerating the obvious,. That can’t happen, few want to see their true state or expend the energy waking up others. The belief in BAU and that the lights will stay on is too alluring and it’s unthinkable to consider ‘the alternative’
Meaningful change cannot occur while the masses remain apathetic and unaffected..We are too easily controlled through media and fear. When prodded by ‘events’ ‘nuclear triggers’ or ‘black swans’.
We’re quick to give up our freedoms, critical reasoning and sovereignty as long as the internet still works and only realise latter what’s lost with no one to blame but ourselves. herts ay.
Norm will tell you it’s not deliberate. And if you point it out the obvious facts,, he will respond to justify himself, but exclude you the option of ‘reply’ is this the standard response now? More important to appear to be right than actually awake?
This type of reaction is now so mainstream, the political elite use it to fob us off, or mute us pro-rata, while taking us kicking and screaming towards mass conflict. The phoney war stage is perhaps coming to an end. The ‘offical war’ is about to begin, maybe!
Investing time and attention into the political establishment. is literally an energy sink by design.
I do not abdicate revolution, war or the guillotine, but we are now absolutely being corralled toward it.
The only weapon is to know the path of peace and know how to use it without becoming a raging zombie too. Sounds easier than it is.
The cluster bombs could be fake
At last (a bit OT, but anyway):
https://insider-gaming.com/starcraft-3-is-reportedly-in-development/
“STARCRAFT 3 IS REPORTEDLY IN DEVELOPMENT
StarCraft II, the last game in the series was originally released 13 years ago back in 2010.“
https://youtu.be/P8eTvOVLyD8
🥳👍🎉
Still waiting for Half Life 3.
Watched my flatmate play through Shelf Life 2 back in the day. Great game. I get nausea from fast paced FPS games nowadays. It’s mostly car games, stompy big and slow mechs, and watching kiddos play SC 2 on YT. But it’s getting a bit long in the tooth.
The Gaben need to up his game.
“China just fought back in the semiconductor exports war. Here’s what you need to know.
“The country aims to restrict the supply of gallium and germanium, two materials used in computer chips and other products. But experts say it won’t have the desired impact.”
https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/07/10/1076025/china-export-control-semiconductor-material/?truid=%2A%7CLINKID%7C%2A&utm_source=weekend_reads&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletters.subscription&utm_term=wr.07.15.23-Explains-Access.25off&utm_content=JA23ISS.25Off.NLAcq&mc_cid=37da31fed3&mc_eid=662b7fd83b
As fossil fuels deplete, will global supply lines, & complexity in general, break down?
I would expect yes. I would expect complexity will decrease and so the need to ship special stuff all over the planet will decrease.
Ed:
Guess: Capital costs are in for the foreseeable future, the 1% can afford the variable costs; for some, life will go on for a long time.
Dennis L.