The economy is moving from a tailwind pushing it along to a headwind holding it back

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The problem is hitting limits in the extraction of fossil fuels

We know that historically, many economies around the world have collapsed. We also know that there is a physics reason why this happens. Growing economies require a growing supply of energy to keep up with a growing population. At some point, the energy supply and other resource needs cannot grow rapidly enough to keep up with population growth. When this happens, economies tend to collapse.

In their book Secular Cycles, researchers Peter Turchin and Sergey Nefedov found that economies tend go through four distinct phases in each cycle, with each stage lasting for quite a few years:

  1. Growth
  2. Stagflation
  3. Crisis
  4. Inter-cycle

Based on my own analysis, the world economy was in the Growth Stage for much of the time between the Industrial Revolution and 1973. In late 1973, oil prices spiked, and the world was put on notice that the energy supply could not continue rising as rapidly as in the past. Between 1973 and 2018, the world economy was in the Stagflation Stage. Based on current data, the world economy seems to have entered the Crisis Stage about 2018. This is the reason for saying that headwinds are beginning to hold the economy back in the title of this article .

When the Crisis Stage occurs, there are fewer goods and services per capita to go around, so some participants in the world economy must come out behind. Conflict of all kinds becomes more likely. Political leaders, if they happen to discover the predicament the world economy is in, have little interest in making the predicament known to voters, since doing so would likely lead them to lose the next election.

Instead, the way the physics-based self-organizing economic system works is that alternative narratives that frame the situation in a less frightening way gain popularity. Political leaders may not even be aware of how dependent today’s economy is on fossil fuels. Researchers may not be aware that their “scientific” models are misleading because they look at too small a portion of the overall system and make unwarranted assumptions.

In this post, I show evidence that the economy is reaching energy limits. In the last section, I explain how my view differs from the standard narrative, which says that there is almost an unlimited amount of fossil fuels available to burn, if we choose to utilize these fossil fuels. According to this view, humans can prevent climate change by voluntarily moving away from fossil fuels.

The standard narrative proposes a reasonable plan for citizens of parts of the world without adequate fossil fuels (cut back on buying fossil fuels), but without telling citizens what the real problem is. The standard narrative also gives the impression that there is a near-term clean energy alternative. In my opinion, this is wishful thinking for the reasons I describe in Sections [6] and [7]. Section [2] also sheds light on the reasonableness of moving to renewable energy.

[1] The world has been warned, at least twice, that collapse might occur about now.

Back in the 1950s, several physicists, including M. King Hubbert, became interested in the limits that the world was up against. The military became interested in the problem, as well. In 1957, Admiral Hyman Rickover of the US Navy gave a very insightful speech. One thing Admiral Rickover said was, “With high energy consumption goes a high standard of living.” Another thing he said was, “A reduction of per capita energy consumption has always in the past led to a decline in civilization and a reversion to a more primitive way of life.”

Regarding the future, he said,

For it is an unpleasant fact that according to our best estimates, total fossil fuel reserves recoverable at not over twice today’s unit cost are likely to run out at some time between the years 2000 and 2050, if present standards of living and population growth rates are taken into account. 

The issue Admiral Rickover is pointing out is that as extraction costs rise, fossil fuels become increasingly unaffordable. If citizens cannot afford food, housing, and other basic goods made with high-cost fossil fuels, those fossil fuels will be left in the ground. If politicians try to pass the high cost of extraction on to consumers, it will cause inflation. Citizens will become unhappy with politicians and will vote them out of office. This is basically our problem today.

A second analysis that pointed to the current time frame for the world hitting fossil fuel limits is given in the 1972 book, The Limits To Growth by Donella Meadows and others. This analysis used computer modeling to look at several alternative future scenarios, considering resources available and population trends. The base scenario showed resource limits in general hitting sometime around 2020. The economy would collapse over a period of years after resource limits were hit.

[2] The Industrial Revolution in England is an example of how an economy changes for the better when fossil fuel energy is added.

Figure 1 shows a chart E. A. Wrigley shows in his book, Energy and the English Industrial Revolution:

Figure 1. Annual energy consumption per head (megajoules) in England and Wales 1561-70 to 1850-9 and in Italy 1861-70. Figure by Wrigley

Wrigley observes that when coal was added to the economy, it was possible to make far more metal tools than had been made in the past. With the use of metal tools instead of wood tools, farmers could be three times as productive. Thus, there didn’t need to be as many farmers, freeing some farmers for other occupations. Also, roads to coal mines were paved, in an era when few roads were paved. These paved roads were beneficial to other businesses and to the economy as a whole.

Another reason for coal to be of interest was because of increased deforestation near cities, as the population grew. This deforestation led to a need to transport firewood over long distances. Coal was more compact, and so easier to transport. Furthermore, the use of coal prevented having to cut down as many trees, helping the environment.

Figure 1 shows that energy from wind and water were only a tiny part of the economy, both before and after coal was added. They did not directly provide heat energy, which was a significant share of what the economy needed at that time.

[3] The period between the end of World War II and 1973 was another period when energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly. We might say the economy then had an “energy tailwind.”

Figure 2 shows that US energy consumption per capita was rising rapidly in the 1949 to 1973 period. Growing oil, coal and natural gas consumption all contributed to the overall rise in fossil fuel use.

Figure 2. Energy consumption by type of energy, on a per capita basis. Energy amounts as provided by US EIA data. Population based on 2022 United Nations population estimates by country.

In fact, BP data (only available from 1965 onward) shows energy consumption per capita rising for most parts of the world between 1965 and 1973. During this period, oil, coal and natural gas consumption per capita were all rising.

Figure 3. Energy consumption per capita from 1965 to 1973 for selected parts of the world based on BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

A major thing that pushed oil consumption along was its low price (Figure 4). According to BP data, the inflation-adjusted price was only $11.99 per barrel in 1970. In 1971, it averaged $14.30 per barrel. The comparable price today is about $79 per barrel.

Figure 4. World oil production and Brent equivalent price, adjusted for inflation to 2021, based on BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

The average price for 1973 rose to the equivalent of $19.73 per barrel, which is still incredibly low relative to today’s prices. It is an annual average price, reflecting a low price at the beginning of the year and a much higher price toward the end of the year.

There were multiple issues behind the rise in oil prices, starting at the end of 1973. Part of the problem was the fact that US oil production began to fall in 1971, necessitating the use of more imported oil, year after year. Another issue was that world oil production could not keep up with the high demand, given the low price that oil was selling for. The Office of the Historian of the US writes the following:

By 1973, OPEC had demanded that foreign oil corporations increase prices and cede greater shares of revenue to their local subsidiaries. In April, the Nixon administration announced a new energy strategy to boost domestic production to reduce U.S. vulnerability to oil imports and ease the strain of nationwide fuel shortages. That vulnerability would become overtly clear in the fall of that year.

Without higher oil prices, it would be hard for local producers to make the investments needed to ramp up production. Also, taxes for governments in the areas where the oil was produced were falling too low, given the low prices that oil was selling for on the international market. Indirectly because of these problems, but supposedly also because of support for Israel by certain countries in the 1973 Arab-Israeli war, the Arab members of OPEC initiated an oil embargo. This embargo cut off exports to the US, Netherlands, Portugal, and South Africa from November 1973 until March 1974. It was at that time that world oil prices rose to a much higher level, and oil consumption per capita began to fall.

One thing that is striking about the period between World War II and 1973 is the huge advances in wages made by both the bottom 90% and the top 10% (Figure 5).

Figure 5. Chart comparing income gains by the top 10% to income gains by the bottom 90% by economist Emmanuel Saez. Based on an analysis of IRS data, published in Forbes.

Between 1948 and 1968, inflation-adjusted income of both the bottom 90% and the top 10% increased by roughly 80%. This meant that many people in the bottom 90% could afford to buy cars and their own homes for the first time. Even in the period between 1968 and 1982, inflation-adjusted incomes kept up with inflation, something that low-income earners today have difficulty with. It was not until after about 1982 that wage disparity started to increase.

Most people remember the 1950s and 1960s as a favorable period for ordinary workers. Because of the higher wages of ordinary citizens and growing US manufacturing capabilities, the number of cars registered in the US rose from 25.8 million in 1945 to 75.3 million in 1965. The US initiated the 41,000 mile Interstate Highway System in 1956, so that auto owners would have multilane, limited access roads to travel on.

Electricity was sold in a conservative way, called the Utility Pricing System, which would hopefully assure that the whole system would be properly maintained. Utilities were typically owners of electricity generation units, plus all other local infrastructure, including transmission lines. Each utility would compute a total required rate for all its needs, including enough funds to install new generating capacity, provide fuel, and install and maintain transmission lines. A government regulator would approve the rates, but there was no real competition.

[4] In the period between 1973 and 2018, many changes were to increase energy efficiency and to lower the perceived cost to users. Unfortunately, some of these changes, when taken to the extremes they were taken to later in the period, tended to make the economy brittle and thus more subject to collapse.

Up until 1973, oil was being put to uses for which substitution could easily be made. One of these was electricity generation; another was home heating. An easy change in electricity generation was to build new generating facilities using an alternate fuel (coal, natural gas, or nuclear). Home heating could often be changed to natural gas or electricity.

Also, Japan already had automobiles that were smaller and more fuel efficient than American automobiles. These could be substituted for some of the large cars produced in the US.

Especially with the Reagan and Thatcher administrations starting shortly after 1980, there was more interest in cutting costs in electricity generation. “Competitive rating” instead of utility rating became popular in places where electricity prices were high. Utilities were broken up, and the various parts were encouraged to compete.

Of course, competitive rating, when taken to its extreme, can lead to the neglect of infrastructure. It was recently reported that California’s utility company, Pacific Gas and Electric, now finds that it must raise $50 billion for wildfire prevention, after years of neglecting maintenance on the long distance transmission lines used for hydroelectric generation and other long distance transmission. Now it needs to raise money to bury many of these lines underground.

It has long been known that added complexity can be helpful in working around problems of inadequate energy supply. Complexity involves many things including using more advanced technology and international trade. It involves bigger organizations to take advantage of economies of scale. It tends to require higher education for at least some of its workers.

One major disadvantage of growing complexity is the increasing wage disparity it tends to produce. Wages for less educated workers often fall quite low. Work in whole industries may disappear overseas, leaving workers to start over, in new lines of work, at lower pay scales.

Unfortunately, having many workers at low wages tends to push an economy toward collapse. The big issue is that these workers cannot afford goods like cars and new homes. Their lack of purchasing power tends to hold down commodity prices, such as the price of fossil fuels. Prices don’t rise high enough to justify new investment to raise production, so production slows down and eventually stops.

Another approach that gained popularity starting about 1981 was the increased use of debt and more exotic financial approaches. Interest rates were very high in 1981. Central banks could make monthly payments for goods such as homes and cars more affordable by lowering interest rates. This approach works for a while, but it reaches limits when interest rates fall too low relative to inflation rates. Furthermore, if an economy slows down, a major increase in debt defaults becomes likely, as became clear in 2008. With the high level of debt in the world economy today, the default problem could become even worse in 2023 or 2024 than it was in 2008, if the economy slows again.

[5] Since 2015, oil and natural gas investments have remained at low levels because oil prices have not been high enough to justify drilling in the remaining places.

Figure 6. US world oil prices, adjusted to 2021 US$, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

In my opinion, oil companies really need quite high oil prices, probably $120 per barrel or higher, on a consistent basis, to justify drilling in sufficient new locations to ramp up oil production. Since 2014, prices have generally remained far below that level. There was a major drop in oil prices in 2014 and 2015. In response to the lower oil prices, oil and gas companies cut back on investment in “Exploration and Production” (E&P). (Figure 7)

Figure 7. Global Oil and Gas Exploration and Production Investments in chart by Rystad Energy.

After a drop in E&P investments, oil production does not drop immediately. Instead, 2018 was the single highest year of oil production. Production looks likely to drop further because of the continued lack of investment (Figure 8).

Figure 8. Figure 1 from my most recent post. It shows world primary energy consumption per capita based on BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

[6] If we look across the major types of energy supply, we discover that “Wind and Solar” is the only category rising significantly faster than world population. Others tend to be flat or falling, on a per capita basis.

Figure 9. Energy per capita worldwide, for selected types of energy, based on data from BP’s 2022 Statistical Review of World Energy.

In Figure 9, the star performer is the category “Wind + Solar.” The main attraction of wind and solar today is the subsidies they get, and the mandates that require utilities to move away from fossil fuels. Unfortunately, wind and solar really aren’t terribly helpful as far as I can see, except from the point of view of the benefit of the subsidies they provide.

One of the problems with intermittent wind and solar is that they tend to drive nuclear electricity providers out of business because of the favorable rates they receive when wind and solar are allowed to go first, in competitive rating schemes. With this arrangement, the wholesale rates that nuclear providers receive often fall to negative amounts. Nuclear providers cannot close down for short periods with negative rates, so they tend to need subsidies to remain open. Figure 9 shows that the supply of nuclear electricity has been dropping since at least 2001. In fact, of all the energy types shown on Figure 9, nuclear’s production (relative to population) is dropping fastest.

In my opinion, our primary energy concern should be food production and transport. Diesel, made from oil, is the major fuel for agriculture. It will be decades before farming machinery and transport of food can be changed over to electricity, assuming this can be done at all. Until this happens, electricity’s role in getting food to the shelves of grocery stores will be limited.

Solar energy comes primarily in the summer but, unfortunately, in many places, the big need for heat energy is in the winter. People in Europe, with their many wind turbines and solar panels, are worried about possibly freezing in the dark this winter if natural gas supplies prove inadequate. We don’t have batteries for storing solar or wind energy for months on end, so they cannot be counted on for winter heat.

When homeowners put solar panels on their roofs, the electricity they sell to the utility is often “net metered” (credited with the full retail value of electricity that this home would pay). This is a huge subsidy to the owners of the solar panels because the value of the intermittent electricity to the utility is far less than this, probably closer to the cost of the natural gas or other fuel saved.

To make up for the loss of revenue caused by the overly generous compensation to solar panel owners, the utility is forced to raise rates for those without solar panels. Studies show that homeowners with solar panels tend to be wealthier than the renters and others who do not have the opportunity to add these subsidized solar panels. Thus, this is an example of a benefit for rich homeowners being paid for by less wealthy buyers of electricity.

I would also argue that the BP data I used to produce Figure 9 tends to give an overly optimistic view of the value of wind and solar. The approach used indirectly assumes that they fully replace the entire system of dispatchable electricity used today, rather than providing only intermittent electricity. The less generous approach (giving a little less than half as much credit) is used by the International Energy Association and by many researchers.

Furthermore, solar panels tend to pollute ground water when they are disposed of, so they are not very clean. Wind turbines are noisy, take up farmland, and kill bats and birds, so they have serious drawbacks as well.

Wind and solar are made and transported using fossil fuels. They cannot last any longer than today’s fossil fuel industry. In fact, roads and transmission lines require fossil fuels to continue. The whole system is likely to go down at approximately the same time.

It seems to me that the main reason why we hear so much about intermittent wind and solar is because there needs to be a hopeful narrative for politicians to provide to voters, and for educators to provide to students. Otherwise, the situation shown on Figure 9 looks grim. The fact that fossil fuel prices have been spiking in 2022 and regulators are trying to get these prices back down again is testimony to the fact that we are running short of cheap-to-produce fossil fuel energy.

[7] The incorrect narrative provided by mainstream media (MSM) is that climate change is our worst problem. To lessen this problem, citizens need to move quickly away from fossil fuels and transition to renewables. The real narrative is that we are running short of fossil fuels that can be profitably extracted, and renewables are not adequate substitutes. However, this narrative is too worrisome for most people to handle.

I expect most readers will say, your view can’t be right. We don’t read this story in the news. All we hear about is climate change and the need to reduce fossil fuel usage to prevent climate change.

In many ways, the narrative presented by MSM is less frightening to the public than a narrative in which fuels are already being stretched too thin. The MSM narrative sounds like a situation that we can perhaps live with and work around. It sounds like careers that people study for today will be useful in the future. It also sounds like homes, cars and factories built today will be useful in the future.

One major difference in the MSM view, relative to my view, is with respect to the amounts of fossil fuels that can be extracted. The standard narrative says we will extract all the fossil fuels that we have the technology to extract unless we make a concerted effort not to extract these fuels. For this to happen, demand (a favorite word of economists) must keep rising to keep prices high enough for businesses to want to continue extraction from fields plagued by depletion.

History shows that when an economy approaches limits, what tends to happen is that demand tends to fall too low. This happens because the physics of the way the economy works: Wage and wealth disparities tend to spike as energy resources are increasingly stretched thin. In fact, the great wealth of the top 1%, relative to that of the remaining 99%, is a major problem in the world today. When increasing wage and wealth disparity occurs, a growing number of poor workers find themselves with inadequate wages to buy food, homes, cars and other goods made with commodities, including oil.

There are so many of these poor workers that their lack of demand tends to bring down commodity prices without government intervention. If these low wages are not sufficient to hold down commodity prices, politicians will raise interest rates to try to get commodity prices down, so they can be re-elected. It is low fossil fuel prices that will drive fossil fuel providers out of business.

Of course, another part of the MSM narrative is the view that renewables can save the system. I explained in Section [6] why this cannot be the case for wind and solar. I didn’t say much about hydroelectricity, but it is already built out in most of the developed world. Electricity from hydroelectric plants tends to be intermittent, with the greatest supply coming in the spring, when snow melts. Like wind and solar, hydroelectric generation plants are built and repaired using fossil fuels. These facilities, and their transmission lines, will last only until parts break that cannot be repaired.

About Gail Tverberg

My name is Gail Tverberg. I am an actuary interested in finite world issues - oil depletion, natural gas depletion, water shortages, and climate change. Oil limits look very different from what most expect, with high prices leading to recession, and low prices leading to financial problems for oil producers and for oil exporting countries. We are really dealing with a physics problem that affects many parts of the economy at once, including wages and the financial system. I try to look at the overall problem.
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3,874 Responses to The economy is moving from a tailwind pushing it along to a headwind holding it back

  1. From the WSJ:

    Soaring Costs Threaten U.S. Offshore-Wind Buildout
    Companies behind big East Coast projects are looking to renegotiate contracts as inflationary pressures upend financial models

    Supply-chain snarls, rising interest rates and inflationary pressures are making projects far more expensive to build. . .

    The Biden administration has set a target for the U.S. to develop 30 gigawatts of offshore wind power by 2030—enough to supply electricity to roughly 10 million homes. Analysts say that target will be difficult, if not impossible, to achieve if cost and supply issues persist.

    Offshore wind has always been terribly expensive to build for the US. We don’t have shallow places to build close offshore, for one thing. The corrosive salt water cuts the life of the wind turbines, as well. Laws are written in such a way that expensive US ships and seamen must be used, rather than cheaper ships from elsewhere.

  2. Dennis L. says:

    A book to consider:

    “Moral Consequences of Economic Growth” by Ben Friedman

    “He explains that growth, rather than simply a high standard of living, is key to effecting political and social liberalization in the third world, and shows that even the wealthiest of nations puts its democratic values at risk when income levels stand still. Merely being rich is no protection against a turn toward rigidity and intolerance when a country’s citizens lose the sense that they are getting ahead.”

    As may be evident, my concerns are more in how we work as a group, I am a groupie and always seek to be part of a group not for self identity but because I believe a group is stronger, better. My personal observation is two can do the work of three with the same amount of effort.

    We need a group with a set of values that work and we need a group to help each other along, lend a hand when necessary, give some moral support when things are challenging. It is a good time to be a groupie, the world is changing and “I feel the earth move under my feet…”

    Dennis L.

    • reante says:

      Right on Dennis. There’s nothing like being part of a team all working together in common purpose. No feeling like it in the world.

    • China has had this theory. Not everyone could have the good life immediately, but people were given the story that gradually, everyone could move up and have more.

      The catch, of course, is that more and more energy is needed to provide the growth. More energy is needed for several reasons: (1) to offset diminishing returns in many parts of the economy, (2) to allow for rising standards of living, and (3) to allow for ever more population, if this is an issue.

      In theory, efficiency gains can offset part of this needed growth in energy. My analysis shows that, in practice, energy consumption needs to grow enough to provide for (2) and (3) above. Sometimes, diminishing returns can be pretty much covered by efficiency gains.

    • Mirror on the wall says:

      New groups tend to form out of the old, at least on the genetic level.

      I have been reading through a May 2022 archaeogentics paper this evening, and it points to what has also been suggested in other recent papers, that the four main groups ancestral to modern Western Eurasians were genetically more distant from each other than are modern Western and Eastern Eurasians, and modern Western Eurasians are now far more homogenous than back then. Population movements since the Last Glacial Maximum have homogenised previously highly divergent populations.

      So, when distinct groups come together, the result is another homogenous group – which is not to say that there are not still variations, which is a matter of scale. The long-term trend seems to be toward group formation (or homogenisation) even from highly distinct groups, whatever may seem to be the case at a given time.

      (In terms of ‘values’ and cooperation, I suspect that depends on the situation. Folk of disparate ‘values’ seem to work together fine in modern economies in so far as they understand what ‘work values’ (getting on with it and cutting out any nonsense of attitude) are expected. There are often laws about employment discrimination.)

      https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr489431

      Population Genomics of Stone Age Eurasia

      > We conducted a broad-scale characterization of this dataset using principal component analysis (PCA) and model-based clustering (ADMIXTURE), recapitulating and providing increased resolution into previously described ancestry clines in ancient Eurasian populations (Fig. 1; Extended Data Fig. 2; Supplementary Note 3d). Strikingly, inclusion of the imputed ancient genomes in the inference of the principal components reveals much higher variance among the ancient groups than previously anticipated using projection onto a PC-space inferred from modern individuals alone (Extended Data Fig. 2). This is particularly notable in a PCA of West Eurasian individuals, where genetic variation among all present-day populations is confined within a small central area of the PCA (Extended Data Fig. 2C, D). These results are consistent with much higher genetic differentiation between ancient Europeans than present-day populations, reflecting lower effective population sizes and genetic isolation among ancient groups.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Growth leads to extinction.

  3. Dennis L. says:

    Been thinking about this one.

    “There’s another factor to consider here, which is the decline in sectors which influence opinions. The context here is that discretionary affordability is being crushed, and won’t recover.

    FB shares are now down more than 70% from their high. Twitter is no longer quoted, but we know it’s struggling. The market value of the world’s big media stocks fell by more than $500bn last year, though I don’t have that to hand as a percentage. This makes perfect sense – subscriptions are an early cutback for struggling households, and cutting ad spending is an easy cost reduction for corporates. Much of the really big tech stocks have comparable exposures, notably to ad revenues and subs. Disenchantment with the capabilities of tech is one of the easier predictions for the coming year. Most are discretionaries, and/or streams-of-incomes sectors.

    The point is, how does influence and public opinion change if both social media and conventional media are in severe decline, joined there by some of the biggest names in tech?”

    TM latest comment , copied, Gail can cut if necessary.

    We talk about many things related to ff, politics may be one of the most effected. Wow, the influencers of all shapes, sizes and beliefs are in for change.

    It will be a different world, but the worst that can happens it is ends, so everything is good, we know the worst and it most likely will be better.

    Dennis L.

    • Besides the declines in the sectors you mention, there is a lot if disenchantment taking place. People who took out loans for advanced education are finding that they cannot really earn enough to pay them back. They have no way of affording the high priced real estate, or even new cars.

      Furthermore, lenders discover that “real” lending rates are persistently negative. Capital gains at ever lower interest rates are the only way of making money.

      I expect that the outcome is that public opinion changes into two different sets of opinions, ever farther apart. Political parties become farther apart, and may in fact splinter further.

  4. Rodster says:

    Fast was right for anyone who thinks this just happened all because of nature. Hahaha

    “Did they Get the Pandemic Idea from the 2010 Simpson’s” in this 4 min clip.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/disease/did-they-get-the-pandemic-idea-from-the-2010-simpsons/

    • The 2010 Simpsons clip does seem to foretell the scenario we were up against! Maybe not the house cat part.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Like the part where they say it’s not tested and the guy drops after being shot up.

        How could anyone know this — without the writer being clued in — or it all being a simulation?

        Utopia – how could they know about using dodgy PCR tests to drive up infection counts falsely to encourage fear and injections of rat juice?

    • Jan says:

      If you are leading a group it does not mean you want to tell them the truth or they want to accept it. There are special dynamics. I guess most believe they can have BAU with less people. Let’s say instead of the West we profit from the emerging markets.

      There was a paper from the German military to the govt bases on very similar ideas than Gail has. Merkel answered don’t worry, we have a plan for that. There are public concepts in Germany and the EU to switch to renewables – but with a discount of 30%. This 30% has never been explained. For me that is a hint that popularion reduction plans might have existed. No proof. Deagels is another.

      These papers are not convincing. For example they want transmission lines from Marocco to Hamburg. They said lines efficiency had been improved during the years. As much as I understand it, one way of improvement was to build energy plants close to the cities and reduce their length. I am not too deep into it. To me it is not conclusive.

      Actually there is no way to find out, what people that are hiding their plans, are having in mind. As much as I know business, there are a lot of plans and concepts on several levels. It is self-organising, but in a way it is not. There are powerful players, but they have opponents. Politics and business is full of secret plans, ‘conspiracies’ and unknown developments. I doubt there is any top-down conspiracy that leads to a conclusive controlled system but there are decisions that steer the boat into a direction. How the pandemic was organised, I can imagine. You need to take a lot of people into the boat and find a win-win-moment for them. Noone knows the whole concept. If you work in business, it is the same.

      What I see is, that the disbalance in available oil leads to a power advantage of especially Russia. Therefore I expect a larger war. NATO obviously does not have the energy for respective weapons, but I guess the US has.

      When you make plans, it is possible you make mistakes. I guess they underestimate the dependency on supply chains. Everything is always available now. If that changes, I guess there will be problems with semi-conductors and internet services. And that will reduce a lot of power the leading players have.

      Possible there is a backup plan. Like replacing the necessary internet to satellites and gain the little energy for smartphones independedly, like in Africa. Perhaps semiconductor production can be kept for some time in China. Thus they could wipe away national gvmts, that are failing more and more and switch to a corporatism. There are a lot of plans in the drawýers, they are public. They have made their experiences in Russia.

      The crucial point is that complex systems have a tipping point after which they crash to lower states of complexity. Gail stops here. Like in the tradition of Hubbart we are looking for the tipping point and expect that is follows after peak energy. Then we switch to Mr. Fasts collection of controlled opposition panic and loose focus.

      I guess that they thought further. They are not morally limited like us. All here, including kulm and the writing atheist (me) have strong Christian values. It is our group dynamics. The Roman Reich kept up a high technology, while the rest was dwelling in misery. I think the same is possible for Russia. Gail always looks to the whole, like the insurance companies would do. Let’s assume, NATO would get hands on large ressources, like half of the Caspian Sea. Let’s assume they shrink to the Tristatecity concept. The rest will be steered digitally into misery. Could that work? For how long?

      There is another trait. As we can see from Covid and cmt cng science is not as open and public as thought. There are ways. It is possible that ‘they’ know something we don’t. The European prophecy – that might be a communication instrument for them – says there will be wine in Denmark and a unification of Europe and Russia. The crust of the Earth might relocate or the Earth ball. There might be an impact. How would the outcome be then? How would that fit to plans?

      I respect Gail’s intelligence and foresight extremely, it it is the best I have found. But it just goes to the end of BAU. All behind is panic. Imagine Mr. Fast without fridge and beer! His dog would die without delicious cans of dog food! My mind focuses on a beginning from scratch. I am not shocked by the idea to leave my custom environment. They might have even another focus. That would be interesting!

      We in the forum are a bit trying to hypnotize the chicken, I am afraid!

      • No one can really see beyond business as usual. In a way, that is good. To really see what is ahead and explain it to people would be more than most people could bear.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I quite enjoy taunting them with the future … they get very pissed off hahaha

          All cuz of the gulags they call farms – and the experiments on dogs.

  5. Curt Kurschus says:

    Happy New Year everybody. I personally expect 2023 to be more difficult for the world than 2022, but I wish everybody good health and joy in these turbulent times.

  6. MM says:

    I will leave OFW now.

    Bye!

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      goodbye!

      2023 might be just a repeat of 2022 anyway.

      just with much more Death.

      • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

        Q4 is now officially dead.

        time stamp says its 2023.

        I’m hearing the sounds of distant fireworks.

        woo. rah. sis boom bah.

        que sera sera.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        If BAU is going to carry on … that’s ok — we get to enjoy even MORE vax injuries and deaths!!!

        Anyone significant get Vax Wrecked over NYrs eve?

    • el mar says:

      What is your grand plan?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Super Fent? Sure you don’t want to stick around to see how it ends?

  7. Fast Eddy says:

    Doomies – except that they will demand food (and your daughters) https://t.me/VigilantFox/7952

    ABC News Loses Two Producers Who Died Suddenly in the Prime of Their Lives

    Texas Lindsay Writes: (http://t.me/texaslindsay) “ABC News lost two producers this week—both died suddenly in the prime of their lives, 28-year-old Erica Gonzalez and 37-year-old Dax Tejera. Truly tragic. Pray for their families.”

    https://twitter.com/TexasLindsay_/status/1609256361375703040?s=20&t=YpsrCG4dlLTDgE_S1PT8QQ

    • ivanislav says:

      Climate change strikes again!

    • Rodster says:

      Now that’s what I call a double shot of good news. Fast for your next assignment. You’ll need to find 3 who died suddenly who worked at the same company. 🥳

    • Tim Groves says:

      To lose one young producer is unfortunate, but to lose two in the space of a week is beginning to look like carelessness.

  8. MG says:

    What was the life before?

    There was no plastic waste, the people lived shorter, they lived slower, the population and economy could grow.

    Today we see plastic Armageddon everywhere, zombies with carefully masked ageing, the restless psychopaths everyday, the population and economy stalling.

    This is Hell.

    • Kowalainen says:

      No, it is the myopia of ordinary manifesting nostalgia in your mind. You are free at any time to return to a life as a hunter-gatherer or subsistence farmer.

      • MG says:

        It is about less complexity: a subsistence farmer or a hunter-gatherer represent less complexity.

        It is not about the independence, but about less complexity. That is why we like the past.

        We idealize the past, because we view it as something less complex. The life was surely more difficult, but the people were more sceptical about the reality. Today, based on the progress, they believe that the humans are advancing and having more under their control.

        When in fact you have less and less under your control. They stopped to believe in the limits thanks to the cheap energy. But, in the past, the belief in the limits was more common.

        Today, the naive people nurtured by the decades, centuries of growth are surprised by the limits to growth. The life of the human species in the past was much more limited, thus less complex.

        • Withnail says:

          The Greeks would say our society is infected with hubris. And hubris leads to nemesis.

    • Cromagnon says:

      That is why the sun will cleanse this world soon.

    • Jan says:

      I agree to ‘that is hell’. Capitalism ruins people’s minds. Off you make business, you look who could possibly need/pay it, develop a win/win solution (on the personal or pro level) and try to meet this person. The larger the business the more you are willing to overrule morals. This made covid possible.

      Denis Diderot describes unter I think ‘Baal’ that on the tower of Babylon each night a virgin was given to the Gods. I’d call that institutionalized rape. I guess it was not any better for slave girls (also for boys) in Rome. I am not sure if we ever had times without ‘hell’.

      I also doubt with complexity. Archeology says metallurgy knowledge is much older than when metals became ‘relevant’, like in the bronzeage or ironage. Probably 100.000 years. Of course we can nowadays explain the atomic nature but the basics are complex enough as every ore, according to their place of origin, needs another chemical process.

      A lot of our knowledge in fact is very old. Rhink ofAsprin or the anti baby pill. We managed to put it in the right order: coal made iron, iron made oil, oil made ferilizers, fertilizers made growth.

      The red haired chick in the drugstore does not know how to cook, how to weave, how to raise kids, how to milk cows, make bread, which plants to eat, all what her ancesters knew. I am not so sure we moved anywhere.

      We are a society of scale. The end of BAU – with the pandemic everyone has understood BAU is over – will be followed by scarcity. No doubt about that!

      The reported 500 million pre industrialisation are so little, because people are stupid, my lovely chamois are right! Europe got better with the three-fields technology. Why? Because phosphate depletes, the Chinese knew it and the Tera Preta people knew it. The ‘sleeping’ fields were used for cows – that left their manure behind. If the carrying capacity is limited to 500 mio, it is just because we don’t use the talents, that were given to us!

      The red haired chick wants 4 hours of TV and two or four sets of dresses every year and if she does not get it, she prefers to die!

      Btw, if the pandemic is for reduction and I would have been responsible, I would have put the rat juice into the second shot. The first is to build up infrastructure and the third will have shown already some damage. And I bet, it the main thing is not the immune system but the damaged vessels. But that would mean there is still some years for friends and good people to do something positive for the future of our kids and grandkids. But who am I to say that?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      There was a fair bit of slavery….

      You could beat your wife….

  9. Rodster says:

    Retired US Army Col Douglas MacGregor weighs in on the war between Ukraine and Russia. According to him it’s not how the media portrays it.

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/douglas-macgregor-we-have-russia-all-wrong/

    • Very good short video. Douglas Macgregor says the Russian troops are not poorly trained; they are very well trained. They are very capable. They will not just turn around and leave, if NATO sends arms or aid to Ukraine.

    • Fred says:

      Love MacGregor.

      I love the stolid, military bureaucrat from the Russian MoD who gives their daily briefings even more though. In every briefing he reads out the list of stuff that the Russians have blown up that particular day.

      The thing is most commentators admit the MoD is reasonably accurate and even conservative in their figures, unlike say the Ukies who live in FantasyLand.

      So here’s the list of everything the Russians have destroyed so far during the SMO. It’s freakin’ amazing and waaay more than what the West has left in its inventories.

      ” In total, 355 airplanes and 198 helicopters, 2,764 unmanned aerial vehicles, 399 air defence missile systems, 7,338 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 957 combat vehicles equipped with MRLS, 3,752 field artillery cannons and mortars, as well as 7,846 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.”

      • Student says:

        ”The Russian army destroyed the base of the 8th regiment of Ukrainian special operations forces in Khmelnitsky
        A military unit of the elite Ukrainian special forces was hit by a rocket during yesterday’s massive strike. The 8th SSO Regiment from Khmelnytsky is considered the best special forces unit in Ukraine. Data on enemy losses is not yet available.”

        https://voxnews.info/2023/01/01/missile-putin-distrugge-base-ucraina-intero-reggimento-annientato-video/

        Website often criticized and considered not reliable by ‘msm’.
        I don’t like it at all, but often the news itself (avoiding the analysis) is true or anyway not contested.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          One missile? That’s it?

          Doesn’t look like a military base — any additional photos?

  10. Fast Eddy says:

    BOOM!

    “Turbo Cancer”: Dr. Charles Hoffe Says 2/3 of His Patients’ New Cancer Diagnoses are Stage 4

    “In my practice now it’s approximately 2/3 of all cancer diagnoses since the Vaxx rollout are Stage 4…So this has been nicknamed ‘Turbo Cancer’”

    https://rumble.com/v23c0y8-turbo-cancer-dr.-charles-hoffe-says-23-of-his-patients-new-cancer-diagnoses.html

  11. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha I don’t think so

    “Just 5.5% of Americans aged 18 to 24 have received the bivalent COVID-19 booster, according to data from the CDC, while 66% of the same age group received the initial COVID-19 vaccine.”

    https://twitter.com/KLVeritas/status/1609229734432350208?s=20&t=YKr9uv6CQpXxeaOxpod3Fg

  12. Ed says:

    So far I see no grand plan to do anything. In the new year we will get to see which countries join the countries in really bad shape list. Maybe the IMF will not be able to bail them all out and we will get to see our high collapse.

  13. Fast Eddy says:

    Cheeky Pureblood
    15 min ago
    I love telling my allopathic doctor every time she suggests any shot “I don’t vaccinate for any disease with a less than 1% death rate.” She hates me 🤣

  14. Fast Eddy says:

    BOOM! Dr. Ioannidis: “analysis suggests a much lower pre-vaccination COVID infection fatality rate (IFR) in non-elderly populations than previously suggested; reminder, median IFR was 0.0003% for 0-19 years, 0.002% for 20-29 years, 0.011% for 30-39 years, 0.035 for 40-49 years etc.; in short, every single thing our health officials told us across the last 3 years was a lie, a blatant lie!

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/dr-john-pa-ioannidis-analysis-suggests

    norm > ‘fizz’

    • Even with the early data from China, we did not have a correct “denominator” with respect to how many people had the illness.

      This is a link to the first article I wrote about the corona virus in January 2020.

      https://ourfiniteworld.com/2020/01/29/it-is-easy-to-overreact-to-the-chinese-coronavirus/

      Among other things I said,

      [2] Deaths from pathogens are part of the natural cycle. They help prune back the population of the old and weak.

      [3] If the Chinese coronavirus were simply allowed to run its course, without publicity that it was in any way unusual, somewhat less than 1% of the world’s population might be expected to die.

      [4] A major danger of the virus seems to be one of overreaction.

        • Replenish says:

          Early study of Diamond Princess Cruise ship outbreak suggested age-adjusted IFR of 0.4-1.2% and that was for a completely closed population. Early document of worldwide PCR/serology tests on sample populations produced an average IFR of 0.38%. Unherd article with predictions.. Sweden’s Geiseke 0.9%.. debating the final IFR number as justification for Focused protection vs. Chinese style dirigisme.

          • Replenish says:

            Geiseke said IFR 0.2%, Ferguson (Gates funded) Imperial College Modeling said IFR 0.9%. For some reason part of my post was cut off.

      • Dennis L. says:

        Thank you, I followed your reasoning, still kicking.

        A grumpy old man,

        Dennis L

  15. Fast Eddy says:

    I got the COVID vaccine before most could as healthcare provider and emergency manager implementing many of the policies of the “covidians”. Days after I was transported to the hospital with cardiac issue. Today I’m in heart failure.

    Ryan Cunningham
    @rycunni
    ·
    Dec 19, 2022
    Replying to
    @rycunni
    From working out twice a day and lean to my heart jumping to 160 BPM sitting still. My endocrine system is now gone and my weight gain is 70+ pounds.
    Matt Dubiel
    @MattOnAir
    ·
    Dec 20, 2022
    Replying to
    @rycunni
    I’m so sorry to hear this Ryan, but happy you are using this experience to find a way to move forward and help others become educated. You are going to define what comes next with your attitude and intellect. Hit me up if I can help somehow.
    Ryan Cunningham
    @rycunni
    ·
    Dec 20, 2022
    Replying to
    @MattOnAir
    Thanks Matt. Much appreciated. Your a great man, friend, and ally.

    More https://twitter.com/rycunni/status/1604722671891394560

    ie. He is f789ed.

    I can’t imagine going from perfectly healthy to f789ed like this. I’d probably reach for the Super Fent… out of despair

  16. Mirror on the wall says:

    From 31:00 – Russia and China had a NY eve meeting and they are totally tight now.

    (Russia is attritioning UKR, and it will be bye bye UKR soon. There will be no Russian ‘win’ until all of their objectives have been achieved, which is how it is properly done.)

    • Rodster says:

      This is pretty much what retired US Army Col Douglas MacGregor recently said.

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/douglas-macgregor-we-have-russia-all-wrong/

    • Thanks! China and Russia want to work more closely together in the future. It is in their economic interest to cooperate.

      • Sam says:

        Yes, but I think China wants a weaker Russia too.. weak Russian means cheaper gas…you can’t trust any one on the world stage

        • ivanislav says:

          Yes. A weak and undeveloped Russia cannot be a threat, will not have the the industry to consume resources itself, and will have to rely on exporting cheap resources.

    • banned says:

      The same Alexander has had some interesting analysis about the Ukraine fortifications. They are apparantly deep and well made of soviet design and can not be destroyed with artillery. Russia needs to get the TU-95s overhead and use the big 2000 kg bombs designed for deep bunkers. Up until now the big bombers have been launching cruise missiles at standoff distances. Russia tries to identify Ukrainian air defense assets to destroy them and the drone attacks are dual purpouse destroy infrastructure and identify air defense assets. Everyone knows this and Ukraine must keep some air defense for when Russia tries to get the TU-95s overhead. The Tu-95s are a big fat sitting duck and Ukraine would just love to shoot some of them down. I wouldnt be at all surprised if the patriot missile systems ended up around Kramatorsk are not kiev to TU-95 hunt. If Russia cant get the big slow birds overhead its going to cost them big time on the ground. If undetected and intact Ukrainian air defense assets remain and Russia flys the big birds the big birds come down

      The Russian 5th generation SU-57 should be systematically destroying Ukraine air defense if its stealth capabilities are up to par. Thats basically the primary role for stealth. The cat and mouse demonstrates once again that the mistakes made by Saddams military resulting in the elimination of all his air defense are well understood, probably the most studied aspect of war ever. There will never be a desert storm again especially against peer adversaries. It becomes clear that modern air defense systems when used correctly can slow even a better equipped and trained military if used correctly. Remember Russia was supposed to be at the Dnieper by September? Anyone who thinks a major conflict sans nukes will be over quickly is smoking fent.

      Military channel says the scuttlebut is Russia will seal its borders and formally declare some state of war. The new arraignment with Belarus probably includes nuclear weapons there O so close to all NATO targets. Its dropped all its currency holdings except Yuan and Gold. Putins Christmas speech was f*** you west glory to Russia. THe reasonable diplomat is gone. The man is pissed. Russia will get the job done but realizes stupid mistakes will hurt. It might take a while. In the meantime its clear. Russia is done with the USA and all its “allys” (including Japan). Done. Your clothes are on the curb no cab fare.

      RT shows Iran having a bit of live fire near the strait of Hormez. Iran is getting a full squadron of su-35s. Large military cargo planes go back and forth in between Russia and Iran frequently. I would guess Iran has some very very sophisticated Russian anti ship missiles now capable of hitting carrier groups if not top tier. Russia is proceeding all ahead full on the multipolarity course. If the strait of hormez gets shut down I would expect nuclear strikes on Iran within weeks. It would be the only way to clear the rather large Iranian coast completly so tankers could pass. The west does not have conventional military capability to clear the Iran of offensive capability that can hit the strait. Iran knows that closing the strait would result in nuclear strikes under the Carter doctrine or they probably would have done it already just for fun. Israel has plenty of nukes and F35s. Iran is not fond of that possible refueling point air base in kurdish Northern Iraq at all. Iran has discovered that Israel has already flown F35s about in Iran airspace undetected. You think its just a moron like me that realizes that most all of Saudis oil moving through that bottleneck is vulnerable? Wonder why RT is showing videos of Iran live fire in the strait? The message is clear. F*** around with Russian oil transit and find out. Ukraine Smookraine. The carotid artery is at the strait and EVERYONE knows it.

      https://www.bitchute.com/video/bKPb24SHiGox/

      • Fast Eddy says:

        So little war footage… I live for war footage..

        I wonder why not? Where’s Robert Capa when you need him?

        I guess nobody is interested — or maybe it’s just too hard to find the war?

  17. Fast Eddy says:

    The XBB.1.5 Variant Is The Next Big COVID Thing
    A grandson of Ba.2 is taking over unusually rapidly

    For the last six months or so, we have had a lot of Covid infections everywhere, and the dominant variant was Omicron Ba.5. This changed recently within about four weeks when a new clade called XBB.1.5 showed up and became the largest circulating variant nearly overnight. Per CDC variant tracker:

    Despite promises of “miltilayered hybrid immunity” from vaccinations and multiple reinfections, there is no immunity in sight. This is already the seventh wave of Covid in New York.

    The chart below shows that XBB.1.5 is the sneakiest variant ever to evade vaccinated immunity (an oxymoron by now). It also has a great affinity to ACE2, so very likely it will be able to infect the lungs and the cardiovascular system with worse outcomes than previous Omicron variants.

    Hospitalizations, sadly, follow this variant as well. New York hospitalizations are up significantly:

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/the-xbb15-variant-is-the-next-big

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F43f8391e-56a1-4f81-959f-b7e93e7fd336_1383x774.jpeg

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6f36a43c-172c-4f09-ba3e-d047b555f908_1269x715.jpeg

    https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F93a37dfd-1641-4f5d-b90d-c4fdc7c5984f_1047x402.jpeg

    The Bossche Mutation is inevitable…. the mob are currently lulled because the MSM is not trying to frighten them at the moment…

    But out of nowhere this will come and BAM! it will kick off… epic hospitalizations and deaths – lockdowns and martial law to follow — then Global Holodomor.

    It will all happen very quickly … like a sunny calm day followed by a hurricane.

    Or like a financial crisis.. rapid.

    • nikoB says:

      Or it won’t.
      Probably more of a slow burn, just accumulating organ damage and people dying of other things. I expect to see a sustained to growing excess death rate in vaxx countries.
      But as always – expect the unexpected.

    • I see Massachusetts is being hit hard. I will be visiting there January 11-14. I would prefer to stay out of the way of the new variant. I presume prior antibodies from actually having COVID in June 2022 won’t be terribly useful, but perhaps more so than having the vaccine.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Ivermectin is your friend.

        Except when the bossche mutation arrives – then we are all f789ed.

        The Gates of Hell will creak open

        https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ac_hell_giff.gif

        https://i.gifer.com/7lfp.gif

      • Student says:

        I had no idea you had Covid. So, very good.
        According to famous Italian virologist and endocrinologist Dr. Frajese (critic of the mRNA terapy), once one has developed natural immunity against a virus, one has it also for its variants, because the immune system doesn’t recognize only the spike protein of the virus, but all the components of the virus itself.
        But I also think that anyway it is better if you can stay out of the new variant 🙂

        excerpt:
        ”Natural antibodies: the immune system,” Frajese explains, “is able to recognize an antigen: my antibody encounters the particle it recognizes as the enemy and eliminates it. After that it reproduces and stores the antigen, which it tears apart, and should it encounter it again it will recognize it. This kind of immunity lasts a lifetime.”
        Covid, however, mutates into different variants, “but here again we do not escape logic: the virus is made not only of the spike (which we will call “α”), but of at least three other components. If the antibody remembers and eliminates the Wuhan strain, when a new variant arises it can still identify the other components in common with the original virus; which means that even if the spike were to change, my immune system would recognize the other antigens and eliminate the new virus.”

        deepl.com translated

        https://www.radioradio.it/2022/02/straordinaria-lezione-in-diretta-del-prof-frajese-vaccini-varianti-mrna-spiegati-a-tutti/

        • Thanks! I had a light case of Covid while visiting in Alaska in June. I don’t realize that it was anything other than a cold until my husband tested positive after returning back to the Atlanta area. (He was tested when he sought medical care because of an unrelated condition.) I took a home test and it turned out to be positive as well.

          We didn’t miss a single day of tourism because of the illness. My husband’s appetite was “off” for quite a bit of the trip. I took some ivermectin I had brought along when I started to feel cold symptoms, several days after my husband came down with his sniffles and lack of appetite. We didn’t have access to self tests at the tourist places we were staying in, and it wasn’t very clear that the symptoms had anything to do with Covid. The incidence of Covid in Alaska at that time was quite high.

  18. Fast Eddy says:

    Tens of thousands of residents gathered along Victoria Harbor in at Tsim Sha Tsui to welcome the new year after the city scrapped almost all of its pandemic restrictions on Thursday, including the vaccine pass and a 12-person gathering limit.

    However, a mask mandate remains in effect, with face coverings still required in most public venues.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3205159/hongkongers-wake-cold-weather-warning-mercury-dips-below-10-degrees-some-parts-city?module=lead_hero_story&pgtype=homepage

  19. Dennis L. says:

    Zerohedge has a post on the 1% having as much wealth as the middle 60%. So real time calculation. 280,000,000 cars in US, value them at $10,000 or $28T of autos, real stuff. Top 1% about $37T total notational wealth per Google search, quick and dirty.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/2022-greatest-hits-most-popular-articles-past-year-and-look-ahead

    It is easy to calculate financial wealth, harder to value stuff. I have been very conservative on valuing a car which gets people to work, etc. There isn’t that great a difference and if financial wealth is not really there, perhaps no difference. Double the price of the car and they are equal more or less. This is for auto’s only, not homes, etc.

    Difference is liquidity, notational wealth gives one control which is different for the two groups. TM latest has observation on return on capital: it is small to none, only makes money by outsized appreciation.

    A couple of well educated children are worth a great deal more than money. Of course, one cannot sell them, they are not liquid but a very good investment and give a sense of a job well done over the years. They are also not playthings of the elites and there is something to be said for the common sense of the mediocre who do their job.

    Kind of reminds me of my calculations on the increase in SS taxes/payments compared to the price of oil. SS was greater over the period from the sixties to say 2010, don’t recall time frame.

    Thoughts?

    Dennis L.

    • Cromagnon says:

      50 caliber from 1.5 miles out. Take out the engine block and then systemically rake the passenger compartment front to back.

      Rinse and repeat.

      • Adonis says:

        The 1% ERS make 46000 us dollars per year minimum before tax so anyone above that is the 1% .

      • Hubbs says:

        But be sure you use AP Black tip BMG with your Barrett 82A1. And magazines aren’t cheap either. Over $200 for a 10 rounder for mutliple follow up shots. Alas, even with a Swarovski 6-25x50mm scope, Kestrel wind meter and meticulous DOPE charts, a 1000 yrd hit is a tough shot.

      • Replenish says:

        Dad and his high school friends enjoyed woodchuck hunting durung leisure time in northern PA. Guys were a diverse crew.. heart researcher, karate instructor mechanic, marine diesel mechanic and carpenter. City boys with extra time and money playing in the woods. A few them were 1000 yard shooters.. one guy sported heavy barrel 300 Weatherby Mag then started building 300 Winchesters necked down to 6mm. Most of them are dead. Times have changed, now the coyotes and eagles have polished off most of the groundhogs. Back in the day my uncle’s coon hound – shepherd mix King would spy a groundhog, run down across and sneak between the chuck and its hole. I hear these stories a couple times a year. Guys were too busy with work, family and bills to cause trouble.. lots of haggling and fantasizing. I suppose with modern data mining and surveilance all the capable shooters are in the crosshairs unless they are on mission or under duress. Best to find a good dog, enjoy today and save the ammo for deer the local farmers can’t reach with their pump action 30-06’s. Lol.

  20. drb753 says:

    Today the weather in Northern Italy was all about postponing the end of BAU. As throngs of people were out and about in the old town, bars used the 15C weather to put coffee tables in squares and pedestrian streets, and I could not get one for a chat with an old friend. I can not sleep well here, the room is too warm. My cows in Russia were also basking in the +1C weather. So far no signs whatsoever of what is to come.

    • ivanislav says:

      >> My cows in Russia

      How long have you been in the cattle business? Which region/oblast?

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Remember how in Feb 2020… things were normal? I was contemplating heading back to HK at the end of the month and joining some mates for a ski trip to Japan ..

      Then out of nowhere… Wuhan…

      I reckon it will be that fast… one day its normal the next… we see CNNBBC dropping clips and videos of people dying in the streets – not fakes like Wuhan … real dying … a real Marek’s level virus has hit…

      And all hell breaks loose.

      Catastrophic Contagion … the Bossche Mutation. The only fertile ground will be that of the bodies of the VAIDsies — this thing is gonna rip hard and fast…

      Notice how all the defences have been taken down — the borders are wide open — no testing no quarantines no nothing …. the Maginot Line has been dismantled…

      Kinda strange given what we were told to fear from day one – overwhelmed hospitals – has been realized… and lots and lots of excess deaths…

      Strange time to disable the defences innit?

      The Gates of Hell are now wide open — just need the Bossche Mutation to come roaring through….

    • I didn’t really understand all of what these articles said. I did notice a comment in the second article saying, “This mechanism [whatever is causing the arctic temperature variability] is not well presented in most climate models and is also a topic for further developments in modeling.”

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Herbie?

  21. Jim Kunstler has a very long New Year’s post up, in which he goes around the world, pointing out what has gone wrong and what he things should happen.

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/forecast-2023-get-out-of-the-way-if-you-cant-lend-a-hand/

    At the beginning, JHK has several quotes. One of them is really a paragraph that I wrote, which he erroneously attributes to Ugo Bardi. Ugo wrote to me about it. Both of us have written to JHK about it. It is not a big deal from my perspective, probably too late to really fix.

    • Jan says:

      The message is more important than the honor.

    • Dennis L. says:

      With due respect to JHK:

      Over the years his predictions have seldom been correct. A fellow named Collum also puts out predictions, from what I can see his are not a heck of a lot better. JMG predicted Trump would win, okay.

      None of these guys are actionable; OFW has had predictions for years and sooner later they will be correct, but to date, as the song goes, “And the beat goes on.”

      My guess is the AI revolution is a game changer as we don’t know what we don’t know; we think as well, humans. Humans are emotional, the world is part of the fabric of the universe, it is not rational, it is not emotional, it just is.

      Dennis L.

      • Rodster says:

        “It’s tough making predictions, especially about the future”

        – Yogi Berra

        • reante says:

          Easy to make predictions about what a machine will do if you understand ithe purpose of its complex operations.

          • Dennis L. says:

            AI is recursive, each action influences the state of the computer not just the previous action as I sort of understand it.

            The game is young for AI, time will tell. Recursive functions have weird behavior.

            Dennis L.

            • reante says:

              Thanks. The recursion isn’t an intelligent recursion. The I in AI is a misnomer, a marketing term/ploy/device, whereas the slashed phraseology in this sentence IS an intelligent use of recursion that a computer is not capable of because it doesn’t have culturally referential consciousness. It can’t produce loaded language. It can’t think laterally. A computer programmed by Bill Gates could never return the result that ‘covid’ doesn’t actually exist as such. That’s why they love AI so much. It’s a control mechanism for intelligence. WAR IS PEACE.

      • reante says:

        If the universe wasn’t rational, as in based in reason, then it nor we would exist. Just because you haven’t patterned the guiding rationale — natural law — doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. Your biology is proof that it exists, because the universe supports your biology.

        • NomadicBeer says:

          Reante, isn’t that a bit presumptuous?
          We don’t really know what rationality is and even if we did we don’t understand enough of the universe to pretend it is rational.

          In fact I am quite sure the universe only appears rational.

          • reante says:

            No I really don’t think it is presumptuous. Rationality is reason-based thinking. That’s the definition. Reason is the intelligent patterning of (the consistency in) causes and effects. All biological organisms have to have an adequate reasoning ability, whether conscious or instinctive, in order negotiate the dynamic causes and effects in their ecologies. If reason-based biology exists in the universe then the universe must also have a consistency in causes and effects that biology can adequately pattern or biology couldn’t have emerged in the first place. Surely that means that from the perspective of biology, of humans, that the universe is a based in the same reason that biology is because the universe birthed biology.

            That reason-based biology IS a part of the universe, well, that in and of itself makes the universe reason-based doesn’t it?

            • NomadicBeer says:

              “That reason-based biology IS a part of the universe, well, that in and of itself makes the universe reason-based doesn’t it?”

              So many fallacies in this paragraph…

              Headlights run on electricity and they are part of the car so obviously all cars run on electricity. QED.

              Again, you have not described reason. Mentioning patterns and cause and effect is a start but obviously not a definition. I agree that the Universe SEEMS to be predictable (in the sense that effects follow causes) but our knowledge is too limited to go further than that.

              But my main critique is the hubris to pretend to know exactly what the universe is. Given our limitations that is just ridiculous. But you are not alone in that – almost everybody is just as hubristic as you. From the religious conservatives to the materialist atheists – everyone is certain what the universe is and what they have to do (kill the other guy usually).

            • reante says:

              NB

              “Headlights run on electricity and they are part of the car so obviously all cars run on electricity. QED.

              Again, you have not described reason. Mentioning patterns and cause and effect is a start but obviously not a definition. I agree that the Universe SEEMS to be predictable (in the sense that effects follow causes) but our knowledge is too limited to go further than that.”

              You are not conversing in good faith because your ego has been triggered by what you perceive to be as my ego.

              First you say there are so many fallacies and then you proceed to falsely analogize something you quoted me on. And you don’t address any of the other supposed fallacies. Your analogy is false because the car represents the universe but the ,(mocking) conclusion in your analogy has no relevance to what I said. You can’t say cars in the plural because I wasn’t talking about multiple universes including this one. We have no way of knowing if other universes exist. I was only talking about this
              universe. The other problem with your analogy is that it’s unclear whether you’re mocking me again by saying that all cars run on electricity when we generally think of cars as running on ICEs, or whether you’re using electric cars as a convenience for your analogy.

              Your problem is that you suffer from separation trauma. You ‘other’ the universe yet we are all made of the universe. The universe is just as ecological as Earth. It’s just off-planet ecology. Keep it simple.

              Regarding reason. I gave the complete definition of reason. It’s a home definition to be sure. I redefined reason because the dictionary definition is weak. Again, reason is the intelligent patterning of cause and effect. You say that that is a start but not a complete definition, but you didn’t say why, and you didn’t complete the definition either. Why didn’t you complete it? Because you feel like you don’t know what the definition of reason is? Why don’t you know what the definition of reason is?

              I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, and I challenge you or anyone else to argue why I’m wrong: All that biology does is intelligently pattern cause and effect. There is nothing outside of that that any of us do, ever. I defy you to name one thing we do that isn’t a patterning of cause and effect. Say anything and I will tell you why it’s a
              patterning, why it’s reason-based.

              If we are living, biological Reason, and we emerged out of the elemental universe, as an emergent phenomenon, then biological Reason is an emergent fractal of universal elemental Reason because all emergent phenomena are natural fractals of that from which they emerged.

              That’s pure Reason. Reason is all that we have that is true. And as you say, our knowledge is too limited to go any further than that. I wholeheartedly agree, which is why I never went further that Reason.

              Now since you upped the ante on reante here, I expect you to honor my time as I honored yours, and answer my questions and properly analogize if you’re going to analogize, or otherwise properly explain my fallacies to me. And tell me what lies outside of Reason if you can.

            • NomadicBeer says:

              Reante,
              I am sorry but there is nothing that I can say here. You jumped directly from bad definitions to ad hominem attacks and projection. And you expect me to “honor your time” after that?

              Spouting a bunch of meaningless words might impress a post-modernist philosophy major but it won’t work for people in the real world.

              I will try one last time since I follow stoicism. You said: “Again, reason is the intelligent patterning of cause and effect.”

              And how do you define intelligence? I bet you end up with a circular definition. I say that because nobody has a good definition of reason.

              But the important part, which you ignored is this: it is ridiculously hubristic to pretend to know what universe is. For that you would need to understand ALL of it. I can give you links to hundreds of papers with open questions in cosmology, particle physics, biology etc. Are you saying you solved all those problems and now you understand everything?

              Hoping for less rancor next time but I doubt it – if you are so eager to attack over a philosophical conversation, I don’t know what you will do for pointing out that you (like all of us) are not a universal genius.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              The only true genius is Fast Eddy – cuz FE did his PHD demonstrating that intelligence is stooopidity

            • reante says:

              NB

              Intelligence is just the ability to pattern cause and effect. Reason is the act of doing so.

              That’s not circular.

              You got lost a long time ago in separation trauma so you hate the man who is found. The man who found his way back home in pure Reason. By opening myself to our common human heritage and applying my mind to it. Once we put our hearts back in the ecology, we can regain clarity of mind, and then start building upon that clarity in simplicity. A Home Cosmology of pure Reason is at our fingertips just as it was for our deep ancestors.

              You played dirty in this conversation and then you tried to gaslight. You might get away with playing dirty sometimes but you get caught playing dirty during collapse and it could cost you or those you love big-time.

      • NomadicBeer says:

        Agreed about JHK, Dave Collum and JMG (who gave up on making predictions after 2020 – he has an astrology business so he’s trying to hide the embarassment of failed predictions).

        But… It’s so hard to resist making predictions so I have some too!

        For example, I am 100% sure that AI is NOT a game changer. Have you ever worked with AI or computers Dennis? In my experience mostly people that don’t know anything about computing believe in AI.

        That being said, AI is great at implementing totalitarian rule cheaply. East Germany had 10% of the people working for Stasi. In US is about the same but most of them are free to do psyops – this is only possible because computers allow spying on a huge scale.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      he removed it.

      I do not agree with most of this – it assumes covid and the injections were a mistake… a money grab….

      but then JHK still thinks 911 was not a false flag… so I would not expect him to understand or accept UEP

  22. banned says:

    The DOD has a long history of deploying contract substances. Now we witness certain political actions historically directed at “them” directed at “us”. Is it any real surprise that DOD substance deployment historically believed to directed at “them” is directed at “us”? Every depleted uranium projectile fired from the trusty warhorse the A-10 contaminates for thousands of years and the rate of fire is substantial. The degree of substances illegal under international law deployment perhaps lessened under Obama compared to Bush (and Cheney) but it certainly never ceased. The DOD has liked to play with biological weapons for a long long time. Biological weapons were supplided to Saddam until right before the Kuwait invasion. When these stockpiles and the nuclear plant were destroyed with explosives both USA military and Iraq civilillian populations were massivly exposed and civillians in all theatres of war in the Iraq afganistan and to a lessor degree Libya continue to be exposed to DOD contract substances deadly in nature.

    THe degree of legality of a weapon system is determined by its ability to discriminate by international law. A 30mm gatling gun using lead projectiles can be deployed against a enemy without significant harm to the civillian population. A 30mm gatling gun using depleted uranium projectiles deployment causes significant harm to the civillian population for thousands of years. Yes its a bad ass projectile and turns the weapon system into a diferent animal. The illegal aquisition and deployment of weapons that are indiscriminate causing harm eons after their deployment to civillian populations by the DOD has been SOP by the DOD for a very long period of time. All biological weapons are indiscriminate in nature but FT Dietrich still operates. Apparantly some concern over safety may have prompted research and manufacture to other countries. Sasha says their were covid development contracts in the Ukraine BIO labs. Its pretty clear to me that Ukraine was abused in multiple ways and there is no question of the Biden familys deep deep involvement in the corruption of its leaders. Biden members of the uniparty efforts were substantial in this especially as Vice president. While the overthrow of the democratically elected goverment in 2014 was primarily to create a Ukraine intent on causing harm to Russia it also was a dream come true for “safe space” to do whatever they wanted. Considering Cheney and Bidens actions IMO the title of “vice” president is completely appropriate.

    IMO its not only morally derelict to allow corruption and criminal acts to be cultivated in a different country. IMO thinking that somehow you are sheltered from this corruption and criminality by nature of nation sovereignty is a illusion. You simply can not provide such a organism with resources allowing it strength and expect it to remain within borders. The events we witness here in the USA are integral to foreign policy. Not that the people of the USA had knowledge of these criminal activities or wished them to occur.. THis is why I feel my argument that the MIC and financial organization running the uniparty ponzi debt scam are not a goverment is apparent. It is absolutely clear to me that these are autonomous organisms using the maximum power principle for continuance. Im not surprised at all that it is demonstrated they care not about deployed substance effects on civilian populations. Same as it ever was. Any concern that they are actually a goverment not a syndicate is a veneer only microns thick now and in fact they grow tired of the pretense. Its stated directly. “I grow tired”. Far from being surprised to learn the injections are DOD contract substances I think it fits perfectly into the observed and confirmed actions of decades. Its only surprising if you are unaware of the criminal deployment of substances of the last four decades or feel that the deployment on dforeign citizens and US military personnel was appropriate.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/tWd7Ac8SUQ6K/

  23. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Last post for 2022…very appropriate..

    50,000-YEAR-OLD STONE TOOLS WERE MADE BY MONKEYS
    December 30, 2022
    Capuchin monkeys are considered to be the most intelligent New World monkey, where they have often been observed by researchers using river stones to crack open palm nuts on large flat builders.

    Archaeologist, Agustín Agnolín, from the National Institute of Anthropology and Latin American Thought (INAPL) and CONICET, working with palaeontologist, Federico Agnolín, from the Azara Foundation and the Argentine Museum of Natural Sciences, compared the stone tools from Pedra Furada, and other Pleistocene archaeological sites in Brazil such as Sitio do Meio, Vale da Pedra Furada, and Toca da Tira Peia, with modern capuchin-made stone tool deposits.

    The researchers found that tools from the Pleistocene sites such as Pedra Furada are consistent with the capuchin-made lithic deposits, created by repeated impacts between a boulder and a flat quartzite surface.

    In conclusion, the researchers said: “We are confident that the early archaeological sites from Brazil may not be human-derived, but instead may belong to capuchin monkeys.”

    FIRST

    I know, I know Withnail or Kulm will chime in about them teaching the native elites, which established the long line of landowners that have endured up to this day

    • i was recently watching crow drop a snail onto concrete, to break its shell

      it worked of course–but that doesnt make the crow a tool maker any more than the monkeys.

      both were using the same physical forces

    • Withnail says:

      One could say that we aren’t even the only species to use fire.

      Pine and eucalyptus trees turn themselves into fire hazards intentionally. The fires kill competitors and their own seeds thrive in the ashes.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        How did that jungle drum n bass classic go again?

        “Fire, we burn the place down!”

        LOL

        Of course, not burning the place down is also a strategy, and the more common place.

        They are equivalent – burning the place down and not burning the place down – in the sense that all strategy is aimed at the expression of the basic organic drives. Whatever works.

        Gotta laugh at the pine and eucalyptus strategy, though. Blunt.

        Presumably the other plants have not developed counter-mechanisms, and so it is not a risky strategy for them.

        • Mirror on the wall says:

          People are basically plants with the same basic organic drives?

          The basic difference being that we walk around and eat things.

          The plant is ‘looking’ at me like it knows me.

          “I see you, and you are not fooling anyone with your legs!”

          • people consume material found in our surroundings in order to live long enough to develop our seed and spread it as far as possible, using the best means available.

            an oak tree consumes material found in its surroundings, in order to live long enough to develop acorns, and spread them as far as possible using the best means available.

            the only difference is that we don’t use squirrels, the oak tree does.

      • Herbie Ficklestein. says:

        Maybe true, but the monkeys are intentionally fashioning a malleable type of stone with the purpose of an end goal using the reasoning.
        The same can be said by of the Japan monkeys in the hot waters that basically do the same…there was a study too on them and how the others learned to do likewise to break open shells..

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FzIYaZk9s-o

        Monkeys Use Tools to Open Shells | BBC Earth
        244,183 views · 4 years ago…more

        BBC Earth
        11.6M

      • reante says:

        Withnail

        There’s no truth to your statement. Just because pine sap is highly flammable doesn’t mean that pine trees use it as a fire starter. It does mean that highly flammable trees in arid climates are forced by evolutionary pressure to structurally become highly competitive in high-fire ecosystems, so they evolved their mode of reproduction to do exactly that.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Shoe Shine boys do a brisk business on NYrs eve.

  24. Lastcall says:

    10 mins in and so far so good

  25. Fast Eddy says:

    Thorsten
    Writes Counterproductive
    12 min ago
    It is basically too late to stop the vaxx because the process is now self-sustaining due to immune refocusing. GVB explained this is in detail: https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/it-is-5-past-12

    • This is another of Geert Vanden Bossche’s long, difficult-to-understand articles.

      Geert believes that the cause of all of the variants is pressure for immune escape from all of those who are vaccinated:

      And all these data are completely compatible with this theory of immune refocusing and hidden antigenic sin.

      He also feels that there is pressure for the virus to become more virulent. He says he is writing a new article about this. Also,

      “if the virus is completely resistant to any protective effect of the vaccine, then any kind of vaccine breakthrough infection would automatically lead to severe disease.”

      He also says:

      how can we avoid vaccine breakthrough disease? Of course, by diminishing the infection rate!

      . . .

      Of course, reducing the infection rate needs to be done via chemoprophylaxis with safe and effective antivirals that on top are broadly accessible and affordable.

      I cannot see this happening.

      He says:

      I keep saying the unvaccinated will do better and better, will ultimately become resistant to this virus. And the people who are probably best protected against Sars-Covid-2 and all the upcoming variants are those that are unvaccinated and live in highly vaccinated countries.

      He says: “only herd immunity can terminate the pandemic.”

      I would think that it could evolve to be more like the common cold. Around forever, but not really a problem (at least among the unvaccinated).

      He says, ” with regard to the COVID-19 battle, the country or the continent that will win is Africa. Because they will build herd immunity.”

      • MM says:

        I think our ancestors knew quite well, what GVB is proposing:
        “If a snake bites you in the hand, grab it with the other hand”

        No GVB does not have a conflict of interest on the topic of antivirals. I mean, this could also be bad luck only.

    • Gumtoo says:

      Sigh. Viruses do not exist. I can make this claim because no one, at any time, anywhere on the planet has proven the existence of one. The Germ Theory has been debunked and there is plenty of evidence of this, if one is willing to do actual research. Modern medicine needs a complete re-think and overhaul. Covid does not exist thus there can be no variants. The “vaccine” for it, is anything but. Please do some digging, as I have, and you will be dumbfounded. Please stop supporting the narrative and spreading the fear.

      • reante says:

        Gumtoo

        There are plenty of us here who are well aware of that. If you truly have a basic understanding of the biological terrain then you will see that the dynamics that dissident germ theorists are exploring are relevant to the terrain dynamics; it just requires translation. If, however, you are one of the vast majority of ‘terrain’ people who are ‘flat-earthing’ the terrain by refusing to see that ‘viruses’are really just disease-related exosomes, then feel free to continue banging your head against the wall with the germophobes, and feel free to continue to seek refuge in a fake, reactionary, infiltrated terrain subculture.

      • ivanislav says:

        Do you think plant viruses exist, or are those also imaginary? They tend to be sturdier things and have very distinctive shapes by electron microscopy.

        • reante says:

          Plant exosomes exist but not viruses. Whatever structures you’re talking about obviously exist and aren’t imaginary. The EM images may or may not be related to the exosomes, it’s hard to say. While I don’t ‘flat-earth’ EM like the mainstream terrain community does, in saying everything is just an inadmissible artifact of the methodology, EM is obviously an highly-fraught technology just on the face of it, because it’s stretching the absolute limits of reliable imaging. The newer flash-cryo vitrification method seems like it’s the only legitimate one to me, being obvious best practice for preservation of tissue. Nevertheless these static structures we see from staining them and firing electrons at them don’t really yield any functional information do they?

          I mean, if you don’t think that those light microscope images of supposed ‘graphene nanocircuits’ (or whatever they’re supposed to be made of) are any type of plausible evidence because in your experience you know biochemicals to readily crystallize into right angles then you certainly can’t give any credence to EM stills of, say, distinct rod-shaped structures being tobacco mosaic viruses when rid shapes are ubiquitous to microbiology.

          ‘Tobacco mosaic virus’ is just some nutritional plant disease. I saw that they say that there is no known “overwintering structure” for the virus so that it can survive outside the host in winter. Yet they can’t individually exist long enough to remain intact through a winter. Surprise surprise. The only possibility is that whatever structure they’re pointing to is a plant structure. They just say that the virus overwinters in the stem or in dead leaves. There’s no there there.

          • ivanislav says:

            >> I saw that they say that there is no known “overwintering structure” for the virus

            Plant viruses aren’t my domain, but there could be reservoirs, for example insect colonies that serve as transmission mechanisms too.

            Plant virus transmission mechanisms … one more thing to look into. Sigh.

            • reante says:

              Insects are supposed to be the main reservoir for plant viruses in germ theory but that doesn’t explain the overwintering problem when both plants and insects are largely inactive. And insects aren’t active reservoirs for plant viruses, they’re just carriers; plant viruses aren’t replicating in insects all winter because they’re not insect viruses. Insects are reservoirs (carriers) for transmission because they eat plant tissue which contain plant exosomes (in truth and not viruses). Plants that are suffering from the same disease (generally malnutrition of one kind or another) will have the same symptoms and will be signaling with lots of the same exosomes. Diseased plants struggle to produce enough biochemical toxins to deter herbivorous insects so when an insect goes to town on a sick plant that’s producing the related exosomes the insect ends up with a bunch inside it. I highly doubt there’s much transfer of exosomes at all from insect to plant when a carrier insect eats on another plant. When the scientists test the insects for ‘viruses’ they rip their guts open and sequence the contents.

              It’s all just correlation and looking to shift the blame from agricultural practices to wild nature.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Don;t bother … we all know that the PR Team created the ‘there is no such thing as viruses’ to confuse and distract those who are not injecting.

              Just like they created this https://time.com/collection/great-reset/

              And this

              https://newsvoice.se/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Klaus-Schwab-Blofelt.jpg

              It’s understandable that people get confused by the PR Team… they are experts.

      • Vern Baker says:

        https://expose-news.com/2022/11/07/no-virus-theory-psyop-uncovered/

        Igor Chudov came across a Substack titled ‘Boostershots’. When he investigated, he discovered that Boostershots was the coordinating site of a “viruses do not exist” psychological operation (“psyop”). The site instructed people how to post on forums promoting the “no virus” theory and the Substack’s author(s) even bragged about getting people worked up about it.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Hahahaha…

          The suckers been played – again!

          Suckers!

        • reante says:

          This bears no reflection on you, Vern, but that was a stupid article. It gives zero justification for calling the boostershots website a psyop. And though it only quotes a passage from chudov’s article, I’m guessing chudov doesn’t justify the accusation either. Just because some terrain activists are organizing in order to proselytize doesn’t make it a psyop. And just because “viruses don’t exist” is the obvious most common sentence of terrain folks during a fake viral pandemic doesn’t make it a slogan. It just makes it the most fundamental counterargument.

          All closemindedness comes from insecurity.

          • Fred says:

            Reante, I’ve asked this question before.

            Is it possible to get a SIMPLE overview of your exosomes vs virus theory, or can you point me at somewhere that does that?

            I’m struggling to digest/comprehend what you’ve written so far.

            Thanks.

            • reante says:

              Sorry Fred if I didn’t reply or it wasn’t simple.

              Some exosomes are structurally the same as viruses. mRNA or DNA encased in a capsid and surrounded by a membrane. They are made inside all cells for the purpose of communicating with other cells. Organisms have to have a way of physically communicating across cell tissues. ‘Viruses’ are actually just the various exosomes that are coded for communicating to other cells about coordinating the healing from disease. Damaged lung cells will communicate with each other and also send out signals to lymph nodes and even to microbes in order to begin to coordinate the healing from the damage one way or another.

              Like ‘viruses’ are said to do, exosomes also travel between organisms to facilitate communication. The ecology is deeply interconnected by a continual genetic conversation and sharing of information. This is fully established by mainstream science.

              That’s it.

              Germ Theory just twists everything from the agricultural belief that we are in a perpetual war with nature for our survival. And in part because nature seeks to do us harm. Germ Theory is like Dick Cheney talking about the Ay-rabs after,9/11 who seek to do us harm.

              That doesn’t exist. I realize that may be hard to believe but there’s no actual evidence for it. Part of it is that they think disease symptoms are objectively bad for us, which is crazy. Disease symptoms FEEL bad (and for good reason) but they are objectively good for us, because they’re either letting our conscious mind know that something’s wrong or the discomfort is the active healing of the trauma.

              Microbes also cannot hurt us if we’re healthy because they’re not designed to be able to attack us when our tissues are healthy and our defenses are well-stocked. It’s as simple as that. We won the evolutionary arms race against microbes as soon as we became multicellular organisms. Microbes are about a tenth the size of our cells and have to true weaponry. All they can do is eat dead or dying organic matter and each other in some cases.That’s why compost piles and our large intestines are full of them, because they eat dead stuff.

              We need to wake up from the nightmare they’ve created for us. The root of the problem is that industrial society is really unhealthy and so it’s easy for people to approach health from a position of weakness and paranoia, and get fooled into thinking that the correlation of germs with disease is a causal relationship. Exosomes DO have a causal relationship with disease but it’s a BENEFICIAL relationship because they are coordinating the healing from disease, so they’re always going to have a heavy presence at sites of trauma because those traumatized cells are going to be cranking them out because the more they make the more important the message is to the other parts of the body that play a role in healing.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Breaking News — the Terrain Psyop exposed — yes dorothy there are viruses…

              https://archive.ph/fZnoe#selection-243.0-243.85

              hahaha

          • reante says:

            Little Eddy thinking isn’t your strong suit. if you could see yourself acting so superior to the vaxxed yet not only toeing the company line regarding germ theory but even gatekeeping germ theory for the elders, you’d see what an obsequious little theatrical character you play.

            • eddy is already brush in hand, filling his pedo tar bucket and new-plucked feathers for you reante.

              just letting you know in advance.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Nice to see the two of you have something in common.

              Finally norm has a friend!

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Fast Eddy is superior to all. Not just the vaxxed.

              FIFYA

              The thing is … if someone could prove that viruses do not exist — Fast Eddy would quickly change his mind … HE would not care if anyone mocked him for being wrong — HE would ignore the white noise.

              Any have the game plan for that psyop? If so please lay your money down

            • reante

              start referring to yourself in the third person if you have an ego that needs inflating

          • reante says:

            Appreciate the heads up, friend, but I don’t see it myself. Little eddy’s just circling pathetically and looking for a chink in the armor. There ain’t one. Spectacles testicles vatch and vallet.

          • reante says:

            Norm

            Ol reante does already refer to himself in the third sometimes. I think of it as part tongue in cheek part Hamlet.

  26. Fast Eddy says:

    oh?

    ‘XBB.1.5’ is the new United States grand-daddy sub-variant now displacing BQ.1.1 & BQ.1 & BA.5; XBB.1.5 based on CDC data today accounts for 40.5% proportion; Vanden Bossche, Hodkinson, I, we warned that the virus has become largely resistant to the induced vaccinal antibodies (Ab) & the non-neutralizing Abs place sub-optimal immune pressure on the antigen while infection is high; drives variants

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/xbb15-is-the-new-united-states-grand

    No problem – let’s just hit it with another booster!

    • Paul Alexander says:

      “This pandemic is designed to never end for 100 years. With this fraud gene injection ‘slow kill’ bioweapon. If I wanted to design a bioweapon to slow kill people, I would design this very vaccine and roll it out in the very manner it has been since January 2021.”

      Also,

      “You want the variants to stop, then stop the COVID gene injection. Moreover, if you do not stop, there is the risk of a more virulent strain potentially emerging that could decimate humanity. Infectious and more virulent/lethal.”

      • Student says:

        Maybe it is exactly what Bill Gates & Friends are preparing with second event called ‘catastrophic contagion’

        https://www.byoblu.com/2022/12/12/catastrophic-contagion-la-simulazione-di-un-nuovo-virus-firmata-bill-gates/

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Otherwise know as the Bossche Mutation…

          Notice how the Elders and the PR Team drop hints … we had Utopia … the London Olympic Games Virus Ceremony…

          Remember how in Utopia they uncovered a plot to sterilize the mob — but we never got a 3rd season so we don’t know how it ended… right now many are suggesting the vax is about sterilizing the mob…

          Perhaps Utopia was a psyop to get the mob conditioned for the theme of sterilization — perhaps the vaxxes have a side gig inserted to sterilize to keep the mob from understanding the true purpose…

          Perhaps if there had been a S3 of Utopia we would have learned that sterilization was a head fake — instead we get Catastrophic Contagion (Marek’s for the mob) and scenes of thousands of dying MORE-ONS swarming the hospitals begging to be treated…

          CNNBBC filming the chaos — EEE AAAAWWWW EEE AWWWW ambulances howling as they constantly circle the cities picking up dying VAIDS patients…

          Martial law… lockdowns… CNNBBC play video of people being shot dead trying to escape the lockdowns and find food… shots of empty supermarkets…

          Emotionless robotic voices on the Tee Vee repeating ‘Stay in your home. The food trucks will come soon. This is a national emergency. Anyone found outside will be shot. Stay in your home. The food trucks will come soon….’

          EEEEawwwww EeeeaWWWW go the sirens. CNNBBC turns up the volume of the broadcasts FEAR FEAR FEAR…

          Medics go house to house shooting more boosters into arms — under the banner of Safe and Effective… the MORE-ONS wear 6 N95 masks and can barely breathe now… EEE Awwww never ends…

          it’s like a war zone … every so often you hear the crack of a sniper rifle as another MORE-ON ventures out to peel some bark off a tree and eat it…

          Then we get an episode where the survivors are on the streets – the really nasty hard core types – there is no food… they carve up dead bodies and eat them… then they go to where the Doomies are and murder them…

          then the ponds kick in … and The Sickness comes – they have no idea what’s going on (some of them think the mountains block the stuff from the ponds…) — and the last of them die.

          There wasn’t an S3 because they didn’t want to spoil our ending for us.

          This is how humans go extinct. It won’t be like the dinosaurs where nobody really knows what went down

      • Fast Eddy says:

        it will keep going until we get the Bossche Mutation …

        if that takes longer than expected — and people tire of injecting the rat juice — they will ramp up the fear as they are currently doing with the fake China covid headlines e.g. Covid attacks your brain!!! Get boosted

    • Rodster says:

      This is behind Martenson’s paywall but he chimes in on these vaccines.

      https://peakprosperity.com/are-vaccines-causing-igg4-mediated-cancer/

      Excerpt: “There’s an explosive new paper in Science that lays out the awful possibility that the mRNA vaccines are themselves causing illness. How? By causing a person’s body to switch the class of antibodies it produces from ones that fight infection to those that actually tamp down the immune system. Maddeningly (because these are the sorts of things discovered during vaccine development) the health authorities of every western nation did not seek out or discover this information. The pharma companies did not reveal this information (although they are certain to have been aware of the issue). Again, this was left to………….”

      • Fast Eddy says:

        He needs to come to grips with the fact that this was done on purpose … surely that must be obvious.

        The alternative is that they are beyond stooopid.

        The DOD changed pre covid dbase numbers for the military to come into line with the grim post vax numbers…

        Govts across the world denied antibiotics to patients which drove up respiratory disease deaths — the MSM pumped that — and frightened people into injecting the Rat Juice.

        The images of people falling dead in Wuhan are crisis actors – we have video evidence of them breaking their fall with their hands as they collapse

        How much more obvious does it have to get for him to realize this is all part of the plan?

        • Rodster says:

          Agreed, it’s certainly looks like this was done on purpose.

        • happy noo year eddy

          you were late this morning

          overdoing it on the fakery last night were we?—all those crisis actors again i guess

          still–i daresay you will keep them well occupied for 23

  27. Fast Eddy says:

    This is what will happen to doomie preppers

    https://youtu.be/nK8OEXialPE

    • Rodster says:

      Wow, that was ONE MASSIVE collision. The NFL reduced the size of the shoulder pads to try and reduce injuries but players still have their hard hats on which can cause a lot of damage. Fortunately for #3, he didn’t injure or break his neck because his neck compressed when he made contact with the receiver.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The guy delivering the hit actually took the worst of it — he was wobbly — definitely a concussion there…

        Humans are extremely violent beasts.

      • Cromagnon says:

        This modern world is pussified beyond belief. I played high school ball many decades ago both middle linebacker and wide receiver and I took and gave that kind of hit several times. Shit, our coach encouraged the use of the helmet as a weapon.
        I took a horn in the face from a bull three days ago that tore a hole right through my chin and took some fancy suturing to close. The damn bull had no remorse lol. These are avatar bodies people,…. avatars. Suck it up!

        • reante says:

          Yeah no shit. Minor run-in with the chainsaw this summer, one epsom salt soak and that was all. Three weeks to grow the two long scabs and ten weeks for them to drop off. One of my does got horned last week behind the shoulder, full puncture, and i had a silver dollar sized view of her unpunctured rumen. I didn’t do nothing except supplement her with some alfalfa, and she’s closing it all up. Another doe last year had a huge chunk ripped out of her rump by a coyote I’m guessing, didn’t do nothing, she kept it clean, now you can’t tell it ever happened. Couple years ago one of the dogs ruptured his salivary gland on a bone and saliva drained into his neck. When his beck got so full of saliva that he was starting to have a hard time breathing and I was gonna have to cut him his intelligent body opened up two holes next to each other in his throat, one quarter-size one dime-size, and drained it all out. A month later the holes were all closed up. I didn’t do nothing.

          I’ve had five solid concussions. If they had a hand in my personality change then they changed my personality for the better. What don’t kill you make you stronger, unless it permanently disables you. You don’t want that.

          • Cromagnon says:

            I ran 3000 goats back in the day… in northern temperate/southern subarctic conditions. It took years, and more than a few goat popsicles but eventually we got hardy goats. Needed a half dozen maremma to keep the damn bears and timber wolves off though.
            In the end the economics would not pencil.
            I still have a dozen half wild cattle out on bush pastures in over a foot of snow. Those crazy buggers just run when I offer hay.
            If they survive the winter I will cross them with highland bulls and start killing them caveman style out there and farm gate the meat. Screw the packers and the stores.

            • reante says:

              If I traveled I’d be bugging you for a visit and if I was single I’d be intent on staying. Consider yourself lucky.

            • Cromagnon says:

              Lol, the only people who want to visit me so far are old Hells Angels who are sick of city life.
              I could use help digging the cave complex into the mountain though.

            • banned says:

              Sorry i disagree with both of you. Enough injuries occur without regarding safety as the realm of pussies. Acustoming onself to hard work is certyainly beneficial and healthy. Part of the process is learning to understand what your body is capable and not capable of.

              When you are performing work safety takes a little bit extra of time. That 2×4 screwed in or that rope attached. Its tempting to skip it because there is so much to do. Safety always pays. Cherishing your body always pays. Believe me i have participated in some pretty wild projects, There is bold and there is stupid. The difference is judgment. Once a catastrophic injury occurs to any part of the body work becomes much much harder.

              Cavalier ideas about the resiliance of human or animal bodies creates risk and that risk is sometimes actualized. A example is people thinking their dogs are wolves and taking them into the wild without monitoring how they are coping. I have helped pack out a dog with a shredded paw and its not uncommon. Or people abandoning their dogs in the wild because they went into the wild thinking their dog was bulletproof.

              Luck runs out. Pushing your body is great abusing it not. Things smashing, impacting, and crushing your body are not to be treated cavalierly. It only takes a couple of seconds and your ability to work is gone or you are.

              The last time I got lucky I was coming down a makeshift construction staircase too fast. I tucked my head landed in soft earth my shoulders taking the impact. There was rebar and other things about. If I had landed on those or even a rock not disturbed earth it would have been quite different. Not everyone I know has always been lucky. Bold is another word for stupid. Luck runs out. When you are injured the project goes on hold. When it is resumed it is often at a much slower pace.

              I bet you are both of you are under 50. As you get older all of the motorcycle spills, construction injuries, head injuries, and fights start to add up. Your body has consciousness. The brain abuses that consciousness treating the body like a tool to be discarded. Like all abuse its not OK. The mind and body are not separate. What benefits one benefits the other. If care is not given to things they are injured or perish.

            • Fast Eddy says:

              Indeed. And running full speed then ramming your head into another person … cuz?

              If it’s not mental illness it will lead to mental illness p– notice how the rammer can barely walk after?

              Hahaha… humans… WTF.

              https://youtu.be/nK8OEXialPE

            • reante says:

              We were talking about football and how the ROTG changed in order to increase scoring and maximize the profitability of the sport. The same thing has happened in all full and partial-contact sports. The rules did not get changed in order to protect players – that’s just the woke social progress cover story. We can know that because cobalt mining by hand still occurs in Nigeria or wherever it is. It’s just NIMBYist gentrification.

              As to farm accidents/injuries, they happen. Our point was that the mature response doesn’t require running off to the Medical Nemesis with your tail between your legs. And most of the time it doesn’t require anything other than taking particular care with nutrition and rest.

              It’s better to wear out than rust out.

            • banned says:

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I assume you take issue with the ejection of the defensive player…

          I am with you — it’s entertaining to see a player behave like a missile and launch himself at full speed at an oncoming player and attempt to pulverize/kill him by smashing into his head with one’s helmet.

          And make no mistake – he would be pleased if he put him in a wheelchair or killed him. Badge of honour.

          It’s very impressive and entertaining to watch.

          And who gives a f789 if the players retire at 32 with $50M in the bank but cannot remember their names or if they left the stove on… cuz their brains are wrecked from collisions like that.

          So long as we are entertained!

        • ivanislav says:

          >> This modern world is pussified beyond belief. […] I took and gave that kind of hit several times.

          It’s still bad for your brain and reduces one’s potential in any career that involves thinking down the line.

          >> These are avatar bodies people,…. avatars.

          Would be cool. We may find out eventually.

          • Cromagnon says:

            I get it…… l still got the doctorate and the 30 year professional career.
            I protest ANY organization or person who tries to tell someone else what to do with themselves.
            “ Unnecessary roughness” and ejection from game??? Go f*ck anyone who thinks that was the case.
            Cretins who want the safety blanket of the poo-poo ( utter scumbags one and all) or think paying taxes is inevitable ( bullshit….. only death is) why the hell everyone believes this crap has always mystified me.
            I utterly despise western society.
            Yes, either from stupidity, disease, General decrepitude or the coming thunderbolts of God when the sun blasts this lost world.
            We shall see what a con has been pulled on us…….if your soul is strong enough anyway.

  28. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Happy New Year to Fast Eddy..My present to his Hinicess about the lunar moon landing…from someone who did it and explains how it was ✅ done.

    Hear Buzz Aldrin tell the story of the first Moon landing

    Buzz Aldrin was the second man to set foot on the Moon. In February 2016 Aldrin came to the Science Museum in London to tell the story of the historic mission in his own words.

    On 16 July 1969, Apollo 11 launched from Cape Kennedy on its way to becoming the first manned spacecraft to land on the moon. Aboard were Neil Armstrong, Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin – the three brave men who made the historic journey. On 20 July, Armstrong became the first man to set foot on the Moon and Aldrin joined him on the lunar surface soon after. The Moon walk lasted nearly two-and-a-half hours while the pair collected lunar samples and conducted experiments.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9HvG6ZlpLrI

  29. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    I follow Dan on his YouTube channel and listened to his moving account of his time with his partner, Lisa, who recently passed away from Cancer that was discovered in 2015. This talk iss one of the best I’ve heard on life lessons and is a gem in all regards …we still, pretty much, have it all here and he points the important them out from his own life experiences.
    Be prepared to have a hanky ..you may tear up. Lisa was an incredible person …so is Dan..
    For those who had, have or going to have Cancer in their lives…one out of every three, this will be worth listening to…for everyone else that is unhappy it is worth listening to also.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XMlyrK8ro-4

    Thank Dan..

  30. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    Munger, the longtime investment partner and friend of fellow billionaire Warren Buffett, says he doesn’t understand why people today aren’t more content with what they have, especially compared to harder times throughout history.

    “People are less happy about the state of affairs than they were when things were way tougher,” Munger said earlier this year at the annual meeting of the Daily Journal, the newspaper company where he’s a director.

    The 98-year-old noted that he came of age in the 1930s, when Americans everywhere were struggling: “It’s weird for somebody my age, because I was in the middle of the Great Depression when the hardship was unbelievable.”

    During that annual meeting, Munger complained that envy is a driving factor for too many people today. Before the early 1800s, there were thousands of years where “life was pretty brutal, short, limited and what have you. [There was] no printing press, no air conditioning, no modern medicine,” he said.

    If nothing else, Munger’s sense of widespread envy in today’s world might be right on the money: Recent studies show that roughly 75% of people are envious of someone else in any given year.

    Social media sites like Facebook, Instagram and Twitter are especially effective at sparking feelings of envy or jealousy, often connecting us with people who only offer highly curated peeks into the positive developments in their lives.

    See, we have modern medicine, be content and roll up your sleeve for your booster

    • Religions seem to be designed to reduce envy. “Thou shalt not covet. . .”

      With less religion, we seem to get more envy.

    • Kim says:

      People are unhappy bcs they are addicted to various products and processes : drugs, alcohol, internet porn, gambling, shopping and consuming, bullying, attention, status, tv, the internet, etc.

      Addictions lead to unhappiness bcs an addicted person always prioritizes his addiction over human bonds. So relationships and families fail.

      Charlie Munger and his ilk have made a fortune out of these addictions – promoting human unhappiness – over the last century. I doubt he really cares.

    • Jon F says:

      Sure Charlie….let’s now have 4 decades of rising interest rates….the US 10 year yielding 15% won’t get in the way of the Berkshire share price hitting new all time highs…will it Charlie? Because you and your ilk are such geniuses?

  31. I AM THE MOB says:

    “Nothing is more painful to the human mind as a great and sudden change.”

    -Mary Shelley

    • We build up systems to deal with the environment around us. If the environment changes substantially, in any way, we need new systems to support the new environment.

      If we are used to electricity 24/7/265, losing this becomes a big problem. If we used to have a vehicle, but can no longer afford one, this becomes a problem. If a loved one within a close-knit family dies, this may require substantial rearrangements of finances, duties, and responsibilities.

      • Jan says:

        I still remember my mom saying, take care you don’t break the scissors, because if you do I don’t have any until we manage to come to the city. Was that a problem? No.
        I can guarantee you, it won’t be any problem to live without electricity. You won’t miss a thing. It would be more work doing the dishes and the washing and having to light fire before having a ‘shower’. You would not change as a person. If you love films, replace them by books. Ypu can leave smoking, you can start to cut a salat and fry some minced meat tomorrow without processed food. You can stop sugar tomorrow and even bread. You will not loose your personality.

        There are things you should be afraid of: having no food, falling down a mountain, slipping, loosing your child. That’s good, because it helps you to take precautions.

        There are systematic changes, from books to internet. Publishing goes faster, that gives different opportunities. If you don’t have electricity you cannot store ice-cream. And if you don’t have a loaded battery you cannot run your computer. If there is no individual and public transport, it is hard to leave your place and that would change you as a person and perhaps your personality.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          A fair bit of Dunce Kruger going on here…

          Try turning off the electricity for a week right now – stop buying stuff and using petrol as well cuz none of that will be available when the electricity goes off permanently

          If you are on any meds – stop taking them.

          I know you won’t try this – nobody does… cuz it would blow up their Dunce Kruger

          • eddy

            i see Jim Inhofe is retiring— you could offer him a job co writing half your OFW comments:

            Quote:
            ///Like other seasoned deniers, Inhofe is a master cherry picker. When convenient, he conflates weather and climate to make his argument — the snowball stunt being a prime example. He parrots the favorite climate denier talking point that “the climate is constantly changing,” ignoring an undeniable mountain of research about the cause and speed of the current crisis. And he casts aside the work of reputable climate scientists around the globe while spotlighting an increasingly fringe group of contrarian scientists.////

            then you could team up with rodster to concentrate on your other fake-it line

            • Fast Eddy says:

              I think I read earlier that temps were much warmer 3000 yrs ago — correct me if I am wrong but I do not believe there were coal plants and millions of vehicles driving on roads…

              Why norm?

              And why did they stop giving antibiotics to dying people?

        • you cannot talk about ‘losing electricity’ Jan— and casually ignore what it would actually mean. ( talking about more than a power outage here)

          which is the complete collapse of what we think of as organised, civilised society, where we behave (well most of us anyway) in caring manner to one another.

          vast amounts of our food arrives on our plates after passing through electric powered processes, production, storage, supermarkets, home refrigeration, to name just one aspect of our lives.

          there are countless others.

          Switching off computers and going back to books will be the last thing on anybodys mind

  32. Fast Eddy says:

    The Youngest Victims of the Fentanyl Crisis

    Toddlers are dying after accidentally ingesting the potent synthetic opioid their parents use; a 2-year-old “ate mom’s pills.”

    fake news https://archive.vn/QFqdE

  33. Fast Eddy says:

    For those wanting to track excess deaths https://www.mortality.watch/

    Doomies – this is the sort of person who’ll come for you https://t.me/leaklive/11100
    https://t.me/leaklive/11101

    Very true https://t.me/DowdEdward/1903

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      yes, 2 excess deaths weekly per 100,000 is not much.

      now 10X that and we’re talking population decline.

      I think there’s a half chance that death rates rise exponentially in 2023.

      a linear increase would not be world changing.

      almost 2023, so it looks like most of us will get there.

      • D. Stevens says:

        If death rates increase does that mean there’s more inexpensive energy and material goods for those of us who are still here or will demand drop too much too fast and collapse the system? It’s not easy modulating the right amount of population decline to keep BAU-lite going. Hoping Klaus can feather that gas peddle just right as we go over the peak oil cliff.

      • Tsubion says:

        Thank you David… for calming the “world is ending (right now), face-ripping, bioweapon cull” hysteria… at least for a while.

        A few damaged people here and there… a little excess death and disease here and there… does not the apocalypse make… however much you try.

        But it’s early days so who knows what we really have in store. If excess death continues to tick upwards in 2023 then it’s just more reason to call out the shots and walk away from Big Pharma.

        • reante says:

          Tsubion

          It is a bioweapon intended as culling mechanism. In a perfect world for them, they would have gotten everyone to get two boosters. Like us, they know that they don’t live in a perfect world, and that except for the blindest of the blind, they could only count on most people getting two shots as the operation was set-up. So they beta-tested the two-shots for an optimal calibration within the context of their geopolitical Degrowth Agenda.

          A population bottleneck of a top-down global society is global hostage crisis, by definition. Everyone has a gun to their head.

          The unvaxxed are still facing down a double action revolver. In a stressful situation that’s the best case scenario if you have a gun to your head, because an itchy, trigger-happy finger ain’t gonna get you killed.

          Those with two shots have a single action revolver pointed at em.

          Those boosted are on a hair trigger, because we can see that they no longer have a secondary detox function, at least for the time being anyway. And the shit is about to hit the fan. Any major disruption to their lifestyle –any biological disequilibrium, any dislocation, any hard decoupling — and they are in for a world of hurt.

          To me that’s a sure sign that the apocalypse is here. They continue to soften up as many people as they can without causing a stampede. They’re true professionals.

          Reality isn’t a fast-cut Hollywood movie. Disease is a riptide.

          Their goal is to continue to feather the coordinated disruptions of the Degrowth Agenda such that The Softened make orderly exits as in a grand game of musical chairs. They haven’t even started removing chairs yet and many people have already made orderly exits and many more than that are making a clear move towards the door. That’s exactly what they expected to see from their animal trials and
          presumable covert prison trials, too.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          I don’t understand why everyone is so keen to experience the Bossche Mutation…

          If you are feeling suicidal go to a back alley and buy some Super Fent – doesn’t Switzerland have suicide booths now – go there… or brave the cold and head for Canada…

          Worst case scenario step off the roof of a tall building and go splat

          There are quicker ways to exit this dimension…

          The Golden Rule of Vaccination ‘Thou shall not deploy a leaky vaccine during a pandemic because you run the risk of creating a far more deadly mutation’

          Think about that…

    • I looked at https://www.mortality.watch/

      On the website, it is a little hard to find countries with data to compare. Australia and Canada (besides US and Sweden) “worked,” but quite a few others did not.

      US death rates have been high for a long time–since 1970 or so. They began diverging when the US moved toward more processed food, less foot transportation, more wage disparity, oversized servings, snacking all the time, and a health care system that became too complex and expensive to really care for citizens.

      Edward Dowd’s cartoon showing the long line-up for comforting lies and the lack of line for unpleasant truths is all too true.

  34. Fast Eddy says:

    for norm … no conspiring right norm

    The Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics Gets Caught Taking BIG Money from the Food Industry

    While shaping U.S. nutrition, they took big money from Nestle, Pepsi, Kellogg’s, etc.

    “That belongs in the conflict of interest hall of fame — it is off the charts.”

    Full Episode: https://thehighwire.com/watch

    • Lastcall says:

      They are neck and neck with a turd.

      We are about 50 mins away from 2023 here in NZ; we will be about the first to dip our toes into the new year and see what the water temp is.

      I predict more stupidity from the stupid with respect to Climate change; its totally driven by a minor gas don’t you know!.
      This hysteria will be the global reset driver because we have proven to be too tough to eliminate with a bug.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Fell asleep before 12… pity given it may be the last… let’s hope that 2023 is the Year of the Bossche Mutation… I am ok with a Q1 time frame

  35. Fast Eddy says:

    VAIDS!!!!! https://t.me/downtherabbitholewegofolks/61541

    Front page, top story in the Australian 31/12/22 Air controllers are having critical staff shortages due to SICKNESS – a 44% JUMP IN UNPLANNED STAFF ABSENCES❗️Thus is equivalent to 19,700 days unplanned leave.

    It has meant some regional airspace is going “uncontrolled” which should be an emergency-only contingency.

    “Some of the people counted as controllers aren’t fully rated, so they can’t do all the bits of airspace or tower positions. For services to say we have enough controllers is not right.”

    “My concern is there doesn’t seem to be an end in sight. People are getting tired of doing overtime.”

    So just like the hospitals, the aviation industry is feeling the pinch of increased sickness time of their staff!

    IF THE ALL-CAUSE MORTALITY RATE IS AT 13-18% WHAT IS THE CURRENT OVERALL SICKNESS RATE??

    A plane crash or two would dampen demand for air travel – and reduce the oil burn

    • davidinamonthorayearoradecade says:

      that would be something, to have stats on “excess sickness”.

      I think I’m detecting that there is indeed much “excess sickness” in 2022.

      which could lead to a surge in excess deaths in 2023.

      we may yet see.

      que sera sera.

      • drb753 says:

        Excess sickness also includes passive quitting, of which there is a lot these days. Possibly a good metric to evaluate state of collapse but not health per se.

  36. Fast Eddy says:

    Sasha Latypova & the role of the US’s Department of Defense (DoD) in the COVID pandemic response: I remind you my office was in HHS in D.C. & Operation Warp Speed (OWS) & Moderna’s office was above me

    My office was on the 6th floor, OWS’s & Moderna’s & Moncef’s main operation was on the 7th, above my office; let me clear, the COVID pandemic response was a military one, lead by DoD

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/sasha-latypova-and-the-role-of-the

    • hillcountry says:

      cute edit of the spin. doesn’t look like his commenters are buying his delineation of DOD contra Deep State. Oh well, to each his own.

    • Lidia17 says:

      He is such a Chatty Cathy.. interesting he is only talking about this now. Got the results you were looking for, FE?

  37. Herbie Ficklestein. says:

    More AI…
    It’s the end of programming as we know it — again
    As AI assumes more software development work, developers may eventually be working with training models more than they do with coding tools. And that’s empowering.
    joe-mckendrick.jpg
    Written by Joe McKendrick, Contributing Writer on Dec. 28, 2022
    Reviewed by Alyson Windsor
    Such machine learning-enabled tools “help gather requirements and leverage engineering,” Ficklin continues. “Where there are gaps, code writers need to jump in and close them. In all of these cases, the architecture is still handled by the IT department as there are a lot of points of interoperability and security to be maintained.”

    With the advent and rapid progression of AI and machine learning, training models may replace coding at very fundamental levels, Welsh predicts:

    AI coding assistants such as CoPilot are only scratching the surface of what I am describing. It seems totally obvious to me that of course all programs in the future will ultimately be written by AIs, with humans relegated to, at best, a supervisory role. If I have learned anything over the last few years working in AI, it is that it is very easy to underestimate the power of increasingly large AI models. I am not just talking about things like Github’s CoPilot replacing programmers. I am talking about replacing the entire concept of writing programs with training models.

    A complete shift away from coding opens up new ways of looking at application development — to more conceptual and high-level business roles. “Exciting changes are coming from surprising directions,” says Ficklin. “The wider world has imagined low code/no code as a visual interface where you move nodes around to string together code. That is orchestration, and still requires knowledge of how code strings together

    Evolution in motion…freedom from our mortal shells…

    • Dreamers! Science is full of models, many/most of them inappropriate for the application being made. If our scientists cannot figure things out, how do we expect AI to figure things out?

      • Withnail says:

        Computers can’t fix our problems. They aren’t caused by lack of enough software.

      • Dennis L. says:

        These are not models, in a sense they are recursive and rely on huge data sets which are now available.

        I have mentioned before openIE, found by a few guys who basically said, “Yeh, we can kick in $1B and see what happens, one of them is involved in the automobile industry.”

        My guess is this stuff is going(is) to work; the problem is one does not know what the sentient machine is “thinking.”

        As for our scientists, only in retrospect can I appreciate those with whom I was associated and their efforts to get funding. That is a boring job.

        Upper level education is probably on its last legs, the really brilliant leaders have moved on. Think Ramanujan, he taught himself advanced math in India, Hardy found him(not quite, but close) and brought him to England. Now with the internet and truly interactive teachers, it may well be education available to all; problem is it will self sort, this level starts at the 1 in 1,000, not the 99th percentile.

        8B people in the world, so crude guess, 8M in the 99.9 percentile. Those percentiles associate with income, and like marries like, kul is right, tough group to get into.

        Dennis L.

    • Kowalainen says:

      “That is orchestration, and still requires knowledge of how code strings together.”

      It is called system engineering; when competently executed is a process which inputs high level specifications and recursively defines requirements, interactivity, functional blocks, state machines, electronics, mechanics, etc. into a cohesive, node and block diagram based description together with the associated engineering artifacts such as software, hardware, regulatory compliance and other documentation. (Yes I simplified a lot here)

      Check out ARCADIA for reference.
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcadia_(engineering)

  38. Mirror on the wall says:

    Just wow.

    It seems unlikely that the state will allow the population to shrink any time soon, as it relies on labour expansion to grow GDP, to service its structural debt and to service future public spending commitments like pensions and health care.

    It is not about to abandon all of that just because half of Brits do not fancy having kids. It will simply factor that in. The Office of Budget Responsibilities exists for a reason.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11499625/Britains-birth-rate-peril-half-adults-rule-having-children-survey-shows.html

    > Britain’s birth rate in peril as half of adults rule out having children, survey shows

    Almost half of UK adults between 18 and 50 are not planning on having children

    A study has found that almost half of UK adults aged between 18 and 50 are not planning on having children, with the birth rate set to plummet.

    Some 46 per cent of those surveyed by Ipsos said they had decided against children or did not intend to have any more.

    More than half said this was for financial reasons. Two-thirds cited ‘personal reasons’, such as being too young or old, or feeling daunted at the prospect.

    The declining rate will leave Britain with an ageing populace, prompting fears of extra pressure on the NHS and care system and an undermining of economic growth.

    • If people cannot afford to have children, population will shrink. I think that this has been a problem in Russia and some Eastern European countries for a while.

      • Mirror on the wall says:

        A major factor is whether the society is open or closed to population movement. It seems that much of the population increase in Britain over the past 20 years has been due directly or indirectly to migration. Presumably the state here will continue with the same approach.

        “The Census statistics for 2021 show that the total ethnic minority population in England and Wales has risen by eight million in twenty years. It stands at nearly 15 million (nearly tripling from 5.7 million in 2001) and has more than doubled from 12% of the population to 26% since 2001. The overall population of England and Wales rose by around eight million since 2001 – rising from 52 million to nearly 60 million in 2021.”

      • Dennis L. says:

        Woman who serves my wine at a local pub one of 9 children, her mother was one of 13. Her dad is an elementary school teacher; it can be done as it has been done.

        Western women have been indoctrinated to become professionals, have a “meaningful” life. A guess is at best 1 in 100 have a “meaningful” life, the remainder have jobs. It is worse for men, being a laborer even in a union is far from glamorous, but the world needs holes in the ground.

        Your husband is a mathematician, he is at least in the 99th percentile, that is the lower rung for math.

        You have a connection with the fabric of the universe, a grandchild. Raising children is a hard, often thankless job but it is the only one which for most of us connects to the future. That is part of the fabric of the universe and changing it would be a challenge to say the least.

        Dennis L.

    • Kowalainen says:

      What it effectively means is life support for the (mostly useless) middle men and women (craft-less bourgeoisie) within an ever expanding and poorer consumerist herd (the projections of sanctimony).

      You see, handing out a bowl of oats to a starving person is the epitome of sanctimonious hypocrisy. “Saving lives” while, they themselves, simultaneously blow through copious amounts of finite resources trying to climb fictive status hierarchies constructed from their unfettered rapacious primate tendencies.

      Everybody’s just want to feel good and sanctimonious hypocrisy is a sufficient “happy-feelz” proxy for actual competence. It got a few powerful WtP mechanisms – such as the racism of low expectations fictively elevating the perpetrators to a higher social (divine) strata from where they can be equally fictively admired in their delusional egotistical fantasies spawned from primate tendencies.

      Problem is that they’re only superficially admired-despised by their own similes (fictive competitors).

      The problem with a humongous and imbecile consumerist herd is that, well, it only works when energy is cheap and abundant. For a little while, until the useless end up as macabre “decorations” on repurposed light poles by the hand of their former “clients”.

      It’s as good as any method for “disposing” the genetic cruft in a species, i.e. the unwittingly insane. Recall that being dumb isn’t insanity, it merely makes life harder and confusing.

    • Kim says:

      Does the right hand not know what the left hand is doing?

      Under its Climate Change legislation, the UK is legally c
      required to be zero carbon by 2050.

      It plans to decrease energy usage by 40%, ban meat, have no fishing fleet, import no food, eat only locally produced food, apply minimal pesticides and fertilizers, close all airports and have no tourism or international travel…yet they think they need to continue to grow population.

      Huh?

      • Slightly delusional, but at least they do recognize some of the limits the world is up against.

        • Cromagnon says:

          I would strongly recommend that you look into the rapidly “evolving” world of solar astrophysics especially as it applies to solar flaring and micronova.

          It makes most “ limits” facing humanity utterly laughable.

          Something that quite literally pantries the earths surface, releases the crust to truly massive vulcanism and seismic shocks.
          We going away in a day…… very very soon now.

          • Fred says:

            I’ve been reading that stuff too. Then there’s the imminent mega comet/asteroid strike. Also Planet X/Nibiru and they’re all instant civilisation-ending events

            Challenge is trying to figure out whether they’re all just reruns of the 2012 Mayan hoohah.

            No need to worry though. If it happens there’s nothing to be done. Meanwhile it’s still BAU party time Baby!

            • Cromagnon says:

              I just read a game changer in regards to the entire matrix of cataclysm and similacrum. I doubt the authors have understood the ramifications of their work.
              “Controversial issues in Hydrocarbon field Formation and the role of Gromagnetic Fields”.
              Audrey A. Ponomerav et al.

              If thesis is true (check this out Gail)
              Then we have complete integration of similacrum theory and “proof” of both recurrrnt advanced human civilization ( with full energy sources) and recurrent cataclysms.
              Large Geomagnetic field flux driven by solar and galactic current sheets could both destroy almost completely any surface civilization extant on earth AND simultaneously restore full oil reservoir in prep for next sim run…..

              It would finally explain and indirectly prove that this reality is indeed similacrum.

      • Ed says:

        Kim, how many people can the UK feed with local grown potatoes, carrots and cabbages?

        • Kim says:

          Very few?

          And some people may not like carrots.

        • Withnail says:

          A very small number without fertiliser. People don’t realise fertiliser isn’t a nice-to-have option, it’s essential if you want to really grow anything.

    • Withnail says:

      It seems unlikely that the state will allow the population to shrink any time soon, as it relies on labour expansion to grow GDP, to service its structural debt and to service future public spending commitments like pensions and health care.

      The Roman state didn’t allow peasants to abandon the land or prices to rise but they did anyway. States can’t stop energy collapses.

  39. Fast Eddy says:

    speaking of f789ed celebrities

    Thai palace says princess on life support in first update since confirming her collapse
    Princess Bajrakitiyabha, a potential heir to Thailand’s throne, is in stable condition ‘at a certain level’

    https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/southeast-asia/thailand-princess-bajrakitiyabha-collapse-b2247774.html

    My contacts inside the palace tell me that they are keeping her alive pending a decision on filming another sequel to Weekend at Bernies… working title is Weekend at the Thai Royal Palace…

    The Princess will oversee a handful of degenerates who invite Patpong bar girls to the palace for a drunken drug fuelled weekend of excess…

    Once the filming is done they’ll announce the Princess is dead and feed her corpse to the pigs

  40. Fast Eddy says:

    Karen Cutter, an actuary of more than 25 years and spokeswoman for the institute’s Covid-19 Mortality Working Group, said 13 per cent was an “incredibly high number for mortality” and that it was “not clear” what was driving the increase.

    “Mortality doesn’t normally vary by more than 1 to 2 per cent, so 13 per cent is way higher than normal levels,” she said.

    Whoops, so this is whoops times 10…..

    “I’m not aware [of anything comparable] in the recent past but I haven’t gone back and looked [historically]. They talk about the flu season of 2017 being really bad, and the mortality there was 1 per cent higher than normal. So it’s well outside the range of normal.”

    what the effing whoops. So a really bad flu season does about 1% extra deaths, yet after administering the most safestest and effectivestest vaccines in the world we are about 13 times that level????

    “I think the government should be looking at it – I don’t know to what extent they are or not, I don’t know what kind of investigations are underway,” she said.

    “The AIHW [Australian Institute of Health and Welfare] is the Australian body tasked with investigating and reporting on the health of the Australian population, so part of it probably falls under their remit. I don’t know what they’re doing.”

    A spokeswoman for AIHW said, “The AIHW does not routinely report on excess mortality.”

    LMFAO a really bad flu season gives us 1% extra deaths so the AIHW generally does not report on excess mortality because there bloodywell is no excess mortality, well that is until the year of the whoops. What could be causing this???

    https://cubecubis.substack.com/p/whoops-were-accidentally-killing

    • Herbie Ficklestein. says:

      All commercial aviation pilots employed by the majors were mandated in the United States under Joe Biden”s government contractor edict.

      It was done very heavy handedly and most were injected with the “rat juice”, along with ALL support employees, mechanics, flight attendants, ground and ticket/gate agents…even station management and administrative personnel.

      So. If your theory of “mass Extermination ” exists it would show up in that industry here in the United States…

      Airline pilots are required by law to pass a physical to maintain their license to fly. Most employees have health insurance that cover yearly physical examinations by Doctor’s that preform EKGs and blood tests.

      It seems to me if this “rat juice” is as deadly and impairing as you claim it is, the commercial aviation would be grounded by now.
      Now, not saying it isn’t harmful, it is, but not crippling to BAU…..at all.

      Yes, those that are boosters are playing Russian roulette, no doubt, but this is not going to cause mass deaths by any measure in the world human population…the human hoard/herd is too fast…as great as the ocean waters.

      • The use of jet fuel is down. I would expect the need for pilots is down. The mandate helped reduce the number of pilots to match the US’s (and world’s) shrinking (supply =) demand for jet fuel.

        It was a way of avoiding airline layoffs of pilots and other staff.

        • Herbie Ficklestein. says:

          Air passenger traffic will hit 93% of pre-pandemic levels in FY23 and surpass pre-covid level in FY24, with 1.12 times pre-covid air passenger traffic driven by full recovery in international traffic, CareEdge Ratings said in a report on Wednesday.
          The resumption of international traffic w.e.f March 25, 2022, increased vaccination pace, and receding impact of Covid-19 led to a steady recovery for airport passenger traffic. After the third wave in Q4FY22, passenger traffic touched 90% of pre-covid levels in Q1FY23 compared to Q1FY20. After witnessing a dip in passenger traffic recovery to 86% of pre-covid levels in Q2FY23, it rebounded again in October 2022 to 93% of the pre-covid level in October 2019,” the report said.
          The report added that India’s GDP growth and its multiplier effect on air passenger traffic growth with favourable demographics of a rising working population augur well for Indian airport operators.
          CareEdge Ratings expects passenger traffic to reach 93% of pre-Covid levels in FY23 with the onset of the festive season and growth in international traffic, marking V-shape recovery for the industry, indicating a 70% year-on-year growth in FY23. The rating agency also expects a full recovery in international traffic by early FY24.
          Thus, on an overall basis, passenger traffic is expected to surpass pre-Covid level by 1.12 times in FY24.
          “Improving the regulatory environment with the timely issuance of tariff orders will pave the way for timely revenue visibility for Indian airport operators,” it said.
          According to CareEdge, the leverage indicators are likely to remain at elevated levels for FY23. However, air passenger traffic growth beyond pre-Covid levels and the issuance of new tariff orders in some of the PPP airports are likely to strengthen leverage indicators from FY24.
          https://www.livemint.com/news/india/air-passenger-traffic-to-reach-93-of-pre-pandemic-levels-in-fy23-report-11672217918274.html

          Suppose we will be required to have another lockdown and crisis to bring it back down…

        • Student says:

          It is sad to say, but, like for the Army and other sectors, it was a perfectly valid and horrible plan for their purposes.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        The rat juice is not intended to cause injuries — when you make rat juice is such massive quantities the quality control is a problem — bad batches is causing the injuries.

        The purpose of the rat juice is to elicit mutated versions of covid — eventually leading to a Marek’s-like outcome — highly contagious – totally lethal.

        Be patient. What’s your rush?

        If you are in a rush pop some Super Fent

  41. Slowly at first says:

    To any parents of young children: What does their future look like to you?

    • I expect that few parents of young children look at the comments to OurFiniteWorld.com.

      Things don’t look good for the next thirty or fifty years, from what we can see now, but out vision of the future may be incomplete. There are a lot of things we cannot really forecast.

      • Retired Librarian says:

        Gail, when I read Slowly’s question I thought about your newest grandchild. I have a new great nephew born this week. I would say to Slowly at First, it is very hard to think about their future.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Fricassee. Fricassee or fricassée / ˈfrɪkəsiː / [1] is a stew made with pieces of meat that have been browned in butter then served in a sauce flavored with the cooking stock.

        • Ed says:

          I have a relative who is one year old. He could live to see 2100 and most of the transition. He will need lots of luck.

    • Fast Eddy says:

      Short

    • Fast Eddy says:

      I typed in war footage ukraine … this is the first video that came up …

      Anyone else think this is staged?

      https://youtu.be/vcJV30Fqb9s

    • Thierry says:

      Thanks for asking Slowly. My daughter is 16 months old so I fit in your category. We do not know what the future will be and maybe this is better this way. The underlying question that I understand is “are not you afraid your child will live a shitty life?”. We consider ourselves lucky because we have been living in an era of abundance but this is also our curse. Everywhere psychopaths are running the world, we are fed with subculture and idiocracy, our buildings are ugly and Nature is dying in many places. We do not even remember what being human means. People are empty and shallow (some would say morrons or whatever). Is this the future I want for my child? Certainly not. Most people are kiddding themselves hoping for their children a “better life” than theirs, I don’t. I just want to give my child the best tools to control her destiny, in uncertain circumstances.

      • JesseJames says:

        Thierry, agree with you….we should ask what a better life is for our youngsters. Television, and to a much greater extent, social media, is the death and destruction of true culture.
        So when BAU ends, true culture can reestablish itself.
        Think of food….most of the population (in the West of course, but also anywhere else where big-ag and big-food companies are)…most of them eat adulterated, thinned down, processed crap.
        They are unhealthy.
        Think of when healthy food can again be enjoyed….(if FEs nuc ponds don’t get us) when people are eating nutritious eggs their own free-ranging, bug eating chickens produce for them…and drink the sweetest, most delicious milk you have ever tasted, like from my Nigerian dwarf goats who graze/browse on uncontaminated pasture and forest.

        There are multiple measures of quality of life…after the fall…surviving people will be in better health, eat better food and enjoy those benefits…
        Sure…no social media, no internet, no tv….good riddance.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        She’s a bit young to send her to a paramilitary training course

    • Adam says:

      Mine are 8 and 10, what was the second question . . .
      They help me in the garden . . . sometimes.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        It would be very difficult to have children and come to the realization that there is no future.

        That’s what EVs and solar panels are all about

        • Cromagnon says:

          There is a future,…. if their parents get to high ground and underground soon.
          A future of scrabbling in the ruins of the fallen world and inventing the mythology of the gods yet again.

          • Fast Eddy says:

            They will be killed by diseases — starve — be murdered (and raped) — and if that’s not enough they will die from cancer caused by the spent fuel ponds

            Feel free to Dunce Kruger all that and shit it out into the toilet. But it is what it is.

    • Fred says:

      I’ve got 3 kids and a granddaughter. It is what it is.

      Look through history, whenever you incarnate/are born in the world you’ve got a set of challenges to deal with.

      The incarnation theory says that those incarnating choose when to come in. Who knows?

  42. Fast Eddy says:

    The complete lack of internal dialectic, or the openness trait:

    This is different to an internal dialogue. This is an internal dialectic. This is where you are sitting on the toilet seat thinking about a complex issue and playing intellectual ping pong trying to figure out which side of the argument wins. Unfortunately most people do not possess this. Even ones with high IQs may not possess this ability. How many times have you been talking to someone who is obviously very smart and has a great memory, but as soon as you approach a topic that controversial you get the “but but but the BBC said this”…….. Once they had heard information from a “reliable source” that´s it, there is no going back. Why would the government lie? They cannot even have an internal joust about it in their head to even discuss that it might be possible.

    https://cubecubis.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-steve-kirsch-you-will

    Starts with n….

    • reante says:

      And then there’s the place beyond the open, internal dialectic. The place where deep patterning runs on autopilot as watched over for seamless operation by the conscious thought that built the pattering in the first place. The place where you no longer have to talk things through with yourself in order to figure things out. The place beyond learning. Beyond learning lies only confirmation.

      Nothing’s perfect but there’s no place like home.

  43. Fast Eddy says:

    hahaha

    The reason why so many people on the “Left” are mentally ill is, as far as I am tell, due to the fact that they live their whole lives in a complete state of cognitive dissonance. Although they thrive on it, as their whole social being needs this, it will eventually break you. Here are a few psychological phenomenon you need to try and grasp before you can come up with a solution to how to approach and tackle these people who are not interested in your “science” all they care about is reputation and the grift:

    The 2 Standard Deviation abyss: Any sufficiently advanced intellect is indistinguishable from stupidity.

    Ever been in a conversation at a cocktail bar, or on a plane trip, or in a meeting and you get the feeling that the buffoon across from you is not only not getting what you are saying, but is also thinks you´re an idiot? This is what I call the 2 StDev rule. Essentially if your IQ is more than 2 Standard Deviations away from the person you are having a discussion with, there is a very high chance that you will both walk away thinking that the other guy is an idiot. I am sure your IQ is very high, so there is a large percentage of the population that is more than 2 StDev away from you. You might as well explain your thought processes to your pet poodle. The chasm between your intellectual ability and theirs is so high that you will never be able to communicate about a complex topic with them.

    I have broken this down further into what I call the “Dunning-Cuber” effect. (essentially Dunning-Kruger but with my twist on it). However, if the IQ gap is faaaar higher than 2StDev than the person you are talking to, they will likely realise that you are much more advanced in thought than them and even though they have no Effing idea how your argument works, they will tend to believe you. This is also there is a higher propensity for very high IQ people to not be vaxxed and very low IQ people not to be vaxxed but most midwits are. The high IQ see that this is far too complex and risky to take a risk on, the mid wits think that they understand the “science” and that they are at the cutting edge of knowledge and the low IQ understand that this is all mumbo jumbo and to be avoided.

    https://cubecubis.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-steve-kirsch-you-will

    SS is awesome!

    • MM says:

      There is an easy way out for any argument that you can not counter either by IQ or facts. The argument goes:

      This is baseless.

      Variations include:

      Meaningless.
      or
      Utterly meaningless.

      If you are in a good mood you may also claim:

      This is obviously coming from a chicken head.

      Try it out and experiment a bit with it.
      It will make your rich and famous quick.

      • CTG says:

        There is totally no need st all to talk to anyone who is jabbed….. if he cannot understand that the jab is not tested, he cannot debate on anything else. It might be better if one stare at the wall. You get your photons worth.

        • MM says:

          There is a rare (!) historical example with that.
          I encountered it as a consultant for people trying to keep their fat a*s on a cosy office chair and being paid for it.
          There was a bunch of people trying to shoot a rocket into orbit. I think it went by the name “Challenger”.
          Before lift off a Moron came out and made a claim that there was a technical issue. Of course this was baseless. The discussion ended with a success:
          The rocket DID lift off.
          They later called me and asked, “How should we handle all these media people suddenly showing up?”
          The reply was three fold:

          1. The risk was zero.
          2. Any issues that showed up were suddenly and unexpected.
          3. In case the media people came with a photographer, train every morning when you look into the mirror and see a donkey, to make it look baffled.
          This is even more easy today, because you can now learn this on tiktok.

        • Fast Eddy says:

          Whenever I am pressed about the rat juice I will state that I am waiting on the long term testing results before going ahead.

          That always silences the screeching zombies

        • Fred says:

          They’re hypnotised – more or less literally. It’s impressive how the psyop machine gets them into that state.

          There are aspects of reality that people on here can see, that ‘Normies’ are unable to perceive. Somehow it’s been blanked out of their field of perception. Bit like the Matrix where chunks of reality are deleted.

          Jon Rappoport at http://www.nomorefakenews.com writes about this a lot. He’s interviewed retired high ups in the Deep State, ex CIA guys etc who participated in various propaganda programs.

  44. Fast Eddy says:

    https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/9989511/police-scotland-paedophiles-top-level-report/

    The accelerated decline of the west continues.

    Police Scotland now refer to paedophiles as minor attracted people.

  45. Fast Eddy says:

    14% believe covid was leaked to disguise a finance/energy crisis

    https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/12-covid-questions-of-christmas#poll-39168

    Fast Eddy is shifting public opinion — quite a few SS approve when FE drops UEP related content on these articles.

  46. Fast Eddy says:

    El Camino Hospital’s Emergency Department Head Laura Cook died suddenly in her sleep

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/el-camino-hospitals-emergency-department

    Wait for it … wait… ok . now!

    F789 YA!

    This is way more fun that screaming at the admin people (who deserve it cuz they see the vax injured coming through the doors too and say nothing)…. way way more … satisfying …

    But not as satisfying as when they get a serious injury and have to live with it… dying is too easy for them… particularly when sleeping – probably never felt anything

    I like it when they are f789ed up — particularly when they know it’s the vax…

    I like that… I like it.. a lot.

    But anyhow — her family will be suffering over this .. right during the holidays too!

    hahaha…

    • MM says:

      I wonder why the super IQ Fast did not figure this out a long time ago:

      “He said do not vote for Trump, now he is dead, haha.”

      OFW would have been much more fun since a long time ago 😉

  47. Fast Eddy says:

    I asked my good friend UK Professor Norman Fenton what he thought the odds were that the COVID vaccine increased all-cause mortality.

    Here’s his reply. It tells you everything you need to know:

    I’m over 99% sure they increased ACM but that doesn’t mean I can necessarily make others believe it to that extent. From a Bayesian perspective if somebody (before seeing the evidence) ‘believes’ the vaxx is safe & effective then no amount of convincing evidence to the contrary will shift their belief.

    Ain’t that the truth?

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/did-the-covid-vaccine-increase-all

    No wonder they don’t mind killing everyone … it’s like crushing cockroaches

    • Kowalainen says:

      Let’s take that to the logical conclusion:

      It’s difficult to shift somebody’s belief if they already shot themselves through the head.

      Not too far fetched, eh?

    • Their minds are already made up.

      • Fred says:

        Questions Gail (thinking how I frame them):

        How do you judge when FE’s comments become counter productive to the blog and what proportion do you discard?

        How would you describe the value he adds to the discourse?

  48. Fast Eddy says:

    I do not understand why other OFWers should be censored if they hurl insults at norm. Why can’t we just come right out and call him a low IQ im be cile .. a MORE-ON… etc…

    If the shoe fits.

    • houtskool says:

      I’d start complaining as soon as his boosters surpass your comments on ofw.

    • banned says:

      Does your wife know about Norm? “open” marriage?

    • Withnail says:

      Because we want it to be a forum discussing energy issues like adults not hurling insults and posting garbage about celebrities like retarded 12 year olds.

      • Fast Eddy says:

        Ya I get that but we’d only hurl the insults at norm – cuz he refuses to answer questions

      • oddly enough Withnail

        if you check out ‘mental retardation status

        there’s:
        Id iots. —Those so defective that the mental development never exceeds that or a normal child of about two years.
        Imbeciles. —Those whose development is higher than that of an id iot, but whose intelligence does not exceed that of a normal child of about seven years.
        Morons. —Those whose mental development is above that of an imbecile, but does not exceed that of a normal child of about twelve years.
        — Edmund Burke Huey, Backward and Feeble-Minded Children, 1912

        interesting, isn’t it, that the (fave word) moron, defines the intellectual level of a 12 year old?

        and it gets repeated over and over, multiple times in the same comment?

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